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Israel made that sure to happen. Thats why I use crypto on my phones for=20
sensitive stuff.
James M. Atkinson wrote:
> In the ultimate irony, one of the biggest users of CALEA wiretaps are=20
> foreign intelligence services operating inside the United States, or=20
> targeting people in the United States while the foreign spy themselves=20
> may remain outside of the US... it has made life a whole lot easier=20
> for them.
>
> -jma
>
>
>
> At 04:37 PM 8/8/2008, kondrak wrote:
>> AND, if theyre doing it there, then we absolutely ARE doing it here=20
>> in the US.
>> All the things we've warned about for all these years, and everyone=20
>> said we were paranoid
>> turns out to be absolutely true.
>>
>>
>> Interview of Dr. Joel Brenner
>> National Counterintelligence Executive
>> With Bob Orr =96 CBS Evening News
>> August 7, 2008
>> Transcript =96 As Aired
>> Travel Tips from the National Counterintelligence Executive =96 Traveeli=
ng
>> Overseas with
>> Mobile Phones, Laptops, PDAs, and Other Electronic Devices:
>> http://www.ncix.gov/publications/reports/traveltips.pdf
>> Mr. RUSS MITCHELL (CBS News): China has spared no expense in providing
>> physical
>> security for the games, with more than 100,000 officers deployed. But
>> cyber security is a
>> different story. On that front, Americans are being told to watch out.
>> Here's Bob Orr.
>> Mr. BOB ORR (CBS News): US intelligence officials have issued a strong
>> warning, that
>> Americans traveling overseas, particularly visitors to the Olympics in
>> China, face a serious risk
>> of having sensitive information stolen. The travel alert is blunt: "All
>> information you send
>> electronically--by fax machine, personal digital assistant, computer or
>> telephone--can be
>> intercepted."
>> Dr. JOEL BRENNER (National Counterintelligence Executive): Somebody with
>> a wireless
>> device in China should expect it to be compromised while he's there.
>> Mr. ORR: In an exclusive interview with CBS News, Joel Brenner, the
>> government's top cyber
>> security official, urged Americans to leave all devices at home. And
>> those who must take phones
>> and BlackBerrys with them should remove the batteries.
>> Dr. BRENNER: The public security services in China can turn your
>> telephone on and activate its
>> microphone when you think it's off.
>> Mr. ORR: If the phone's in my pocket and it's off, you're saying an
>> outside force, an outside
>> agent can turn it on.
>> Dr. BRENNER: Yeah.
>> Mr. ORR: And listen to what I'm doing?
>> Dr. BRENNER: That is what I'm saying.
>> Mr. ORR: And my BlackBerry.
>> Dr. BRENNER: Same thing.
>> 2
>> Mr. ORR: China is one of a number of countries pushing active cyber
>> espionage programs,
>> primarily aimed at cracking US national security computers and stealing
>> corporate trade secrets.
>> Billions have already been lost. In addition, cyber gangs and criminals,
>> many based in Asia, have
>> stolen bank accounts and credit card numbers from an untold number of
>> Americans. For
>> protection, Brenner's office says travelers should frequently change
>> passwords, update anti-virus
>> and spyware programs and avoid wireless or wi-fi networks whenever
>> possible; in some
>> countries, they're controlled by state security forces. The fear is
>> compromised mobile devices
>> give thieves open access to all of your computer files back home.
>> Dr. BRENNER: We are giving advice based on a pattern that is relentless
>> and ongoing of what
>> we see as information theft.
>> Mr. ORR: And the government says no overseas traveler should discount
>> the threat. Don't
>> assume, the bulletin warns, that you're not important enough to be
>> targeted. Bob Orr, CBS News,
>> Washington.
>> __._,_.___
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------------------
>> World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and
>> Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------------------
>> James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803
>> Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467
>> 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/
>> Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 E-mail: mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------------------
>> We perform bug sweeps like it's a full contact sport, we take no=20
>> prisoners,
>> and we give no quarter. Our goal is to simply, and completely stop=20
>> the spy.
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>>
>>
>> >>
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Israel made that sure to happen. Thats why I use crypto on my phones
for sensitive stuff.<br>
<br>
James M. Atkinson wrote:
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In the ultimate irony, one of the biggest users of CALEA wiretaps are
foreign intelligence services operating inside the United States, or
targeting people in the United States while the foreign spy themselves
may remain outside of the US... it has made life a whole lot easier for
them.<br>
<br>
-jma<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
At 04:37 PM 8/8/2008, kondrak wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"">AND, if theyre doing it there,
then we absolutely ARE doing it here in the US.<br>
All the things we've warned about for all these years, and everyone
said
we were paranoid<br>
turns out to be absolutely true.<br>
<br>
<br>
Interview of Dr. Joel Brenner<br>
National Counterintelligence Executive<br>
With Bob Orr =96 CBS Evening News<br>
August 7, 2008<br>
Transcript =96 As Aired<br>
Travel Tips from the National Counterintelligence Executive =96
Traveeling
<br>
Overseas with<br>
Mobile Phones, Laptops, PDAs, and Other Electronic Devices:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"
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http://www.ncix.gov/publications/reports/traveltips.pdf</a><br>
Mr. RUSS MITCHELL (CBS News): China has spared no expense in providing
<br>
physical<br>
security for the games, with more than 100,000 officers deployed. But
<br>
cyber security is a<br>
different story. On that front, Americans are being told to watch out.
<br>
Here's Bob Orr.<br>
Mr. BOB ORR (CBS News): US intelligence officials have issued a strong
<br>
warning, that<br>
Americans traveling overseas, particularly visitors to the Olympics in
<br>
China, face a serious risk<br>
of having sensitive information stolen. The travel alert is blunt:
"All <br>
information you send<br>
electronically--by fax machine, personal digital assistant, computer or
<br>
telephone--can be<br>
intercepted."<br>
Dr. JOEL BRENNER (National Counterintelligence Executive): Somebody
with
<br>
a wireless<br>
device in China should expect it to be compromised while he's there.<br>
Mr. ORR: In an exclusive interview with CBS News, Joel Brenner, the <br>
government's top cyber<br>
security official, urged Americans to leave all devices at home. And
<br>
those who must take phones<br>
and BlackBerrys with them should remove the batteries.<br>
Dr. BRENNER: The public security services in China can turn your <br>
telephone on and activate its<br>
microphone when you think it's off.<br>
Mr. ORR: If the phone's in my pocket and it's off, you're saying an <br>
outside force, an outside<br>
agent can turn it on.<br>
Dr. BRENNER: Yeah.<br>
Mr. ORR: And listen to what I'm doing?<br>
Dr. BRENNER: That is what I'm saying.<br>
Mr. ORR: And my BlackBerry.<br>
Dr. BRENNER: Same thing.<br>
2<br>
Mr. ORR: China is one of a number of countries pushing active cyber <br>
espionage programs,<br>
primarily aimed at cracking US national security computers and stealing
<br>
corporate trade secrets.<br>
Billions have already been lost. In addition, cyber gangs and
criminals,
<br>
many based in Asia, have<br>
stolen bank accounts and credit card numbers from an untold number of
<br>
Americans. For<br>
protection, Brenner's office says travelers should frequently change
<br>
passwords, update anti-virus<br>
and spyware programs and avoid wireless or wi-fi networks whenever <br>
possible; in some<br>
countries, they're controlled by state security forces. The fear is <br>
compromised mobile devices<br>
give thieves open access to all of your computer files back home.<br>
Dr. BRENNER: We are giving advice based on a pattern that is relentless
<br>
and ongoing of what<br>
we see as information theft.<br>
Mr. ORR: And the government says no overseas traveler should discount
<br>
the threat. Don't<br>
assume, the bulletin warns, that you're not important enough to be <br>
targeted. Bob Orr, CBS News,<br>
Washington.<br>
__._,_.___ <br>
<br>
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