Re: [TSCM-L] {4873} Remington Shotguns - Federal Business Opportunities: Opportunities

From: James M. Atkinson <jm..._at_tscm.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:54:34 -0400
Ah, no...

The problem is not so much that which is listed is the various manuals, regulations, and texts that you mention, but with the interpretations they somehow demonstrate a great and grand government conspiracy.

There is sufficient probelms with government corruption  that can be shown in explicit examples, documentation, and evidence without trying to take unrelated references and trying to weave it into a grand conspiracy.

For example, some people talk breathlessly about Area 51, HAARP, black FEMA helicopters and American concentrations camps may provide loads of airtime to well known cranks and crack pots, but when some actually starts digging into the "proof" provided the whole legend starts falling apart.

Yes, FEMA does have helicopters (ridden in them), huge underground command and control facilities (been in many of them), and sure enough they do have huge expansive locations designations as resettlement areas (where do you think they parked the mobile homes after Katrina?), they even have huge... and I mean HUGE networks of cave and tunnels (that I have been in) where they warehouse pretty much anything that could be needed in a massive scale disaster. They even have (gasp) rooms full of pornographic magazines, adult videos, books, posters, toys, intimate supplies, and so on to ensure that people have suitable stimulation after a disaster in order to reproduce (well, ok they also have the same stuff down in the missile silos for other reasons... but either way it helps to break up the boredom from doomsday).

There are in fact huge numbers of highways they can be used for evacuations, large stocks of supplies pre-positioned, warehouses full of both food (eaten some of it) and body bags (zipped corpses up in them), and semi trucks (driven some) that sit 24 hours a day with hot engines (burned hand on same) ready to roll out in a convoy in mere minutes.

There is also some fairly impressive corruption (seen it) that exists when there is a huge budget (show me the money) and resources ($8.75 per sheet engraved letter head), and very often the least trained (3 day course), politically connected (show me the money) lackey leading the organization (i.e.: how many horse shows do you need to judge to be able to mobilize the evacuation of a major city that is being destroyed).

Corruptions tends to start with one bad person, engaging is one bad act and getting others to join in. Then they get the people who did bad things to cover for them and protect the organization. This leads to the proverbial single bad apple making the whole bushel rot where the corruption started with one person, and pretty the corruption becomes widespread and part of the organizational behavior.

Pay less attention to the black helicopters, and more attention to the black budgets. Concern yourself less with martial law, and more with civil procedure.  If someone is concerned about... and I mean really concerned about their freedom and how justice can be so perverted, then register your concern when you vote... vigorously question your political leaders, and aggressively hold them responsible for both their promises and their actions.

But please, please, please... do not imagine a conspiracy based imagined "federalization powers", but rather pay closer attention to slow eroding of civil rights over many years, of public servants breaking the laws and not being held accountable, and of  the judiciary looking the other way when it is politically expedient for them to do so.

Look towards how the NYPD defecated all over the civil rights laws for weeks before and after the RNC, and how the prosecutors office in NYC corrupted anything resembling a legal system (and who have never been held accountable) in the name of good politics. Thousands, and thousands of people were arrested (illegally), never given a trial, never given a hearing, never appeared before a court, never allowed to post bail, and never had any recourse merely because they were coming out of a coffee shop just as police were using sections of fencing to scoop up people illegally. Some of these people had the living hell beat out of them (some on the Navy brig ships), and yet nobody was actually held responsible.

It is a fallacy to think that we live in a free country... True, we do get to vote, and true we do get certain freedoms, but many of the things that are "guaranteed" by law  are not actually provided, or are so eroded that they are worthless. The next time you try to fly somewhere, refuse to be searched and see what happens, or  try to get a cell phone or utilities set up without coughing up a social security number, or show up near a federal building, and start taking photographs and watch how fast you rights start to disappear. For that matter, watch what happened when you go to the airport and start taking pictures of the security checkpoints, or pictures of bridges in NYC, and so on.

I heard a report on public radio last week where they were able to dig up deeply hidden records form the FBI that show that the bureau performed over 8 million wiretaps in 2009 with one carrier alone,  but actually had less then 2000 actual court orders. This means that for every legal wiretap there was 4000 illegal intercepts or wiretaps by the FBI.

There is a very definite line between what is a real conspiracy, and that which is a fantasy conspiracy... take care not to confuse the two.

There is plenty of illegal bugging, wiretapping, and breaking the law by federal law enforcement people, but beware of anything other then hard numbers and specific actions that prove out specific illegal activities.

Worry less about macro level corruption, and more about micro level corruption.

It always starts with a single bad apple, and grows to the bushel, and then to the orchard... and rarely the other way around.

Also, please do not troll the list... but along those same lines, all are welcome to speak on the list, and all opinions and voices are genuinely valued. Just remember that the topic of the list is TSCM, and issues related to TSCM.

-jma




John wrote:
You talk about "federalized" yet two of the three cites are state government related and don't pertain to the federal government.

Furthermore, a review of these provide for arrest power to those who guard water supplied, arrest power for those who guard national cemeteries, and arrest power to certified law enforcement officers.  I don't find any of these to be very conspiratorial nor to they provide any evidence whatsoever of your theory of a metamorphosis of all federal employees into federal agents. 

There are enough real "bogeymen" lurking around the corner.  No need for me to invent more.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Its from Onion <areda..._at_msn.com> wrote:
This is after about 10 minutes.  I got tired of looking.  You need to read the whole post.
 
 
 
 
 
            Regardless of where we might have stood on the issue of federalization, we all agreed that screening would not improve if the job status of screeners were not improved-through better pay, better benefits, and real job protections. Ultimately, there is no other way to recruit the best employees and to keep them on the job.
 
 
 
            STATE OF CALIFORNIA -  BUREAU OF SECURITY AND INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES POWER TO ARREST TRAINING MANUAL
 
Water master's power of arrest (WA) - http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=90.03.090
 
            The water master shall have the power, within his or her district, to arrest any person in the act of violating any of the provisions of this chapter and to deliver such person promptly into the custody of the sheriff or other competent officer within the county and immediately upon such delivery the water master making the arrest shall, in writing and upon oath, make complaint before the proper district judge against the person so arrested.
 
 
 
            Are authorized to arrest any person who willfully destroys, cuts, breaks, injures, or removes any tree, shrub, or plant within the limits of
            the cemetery.
 
 
 
            A certified reserve law enforcement officer has the same power of arrest granted to a law enforcement officer pursuant to SDCL...
 
 
            
 
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