Re: [TSCM-L] {2806} Re: Interesting Signals

From: kondrak <kon..._at_phreaker.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:31:58 -0400
Yes, good procedure for sure. My problem  here is this info is sent by someone who's a good tech in his own right, but has no investigatory experience in the legal sense.
I make use of a video camera for much of what I do, with an occasional still pix on the digi camera as well. You can never document too much.


James M. Atkinson wrote:
When I perform a sweep I keep a written notebook of everything i can 
see, do, smell, say, measure, adjust etc. In cases where I use a 
standard set up and methodology I reduce these to large forms so that 
I can document the process of actually how the sweep was performed, 
how the equipment was set up, position in the room, along with a time 
stamp on every page, etc.

In the event that I find something that is either a threat, hazard, 
or penetrations I photograph everything, the settings on the 
equipment, how the antenna is positioned, the trace on the TDR,etc. 
Then I try to get some kind... any kind of hard copy from the 
instrument, and download the data of the test, reduce all of it to 
hard copy and insert it into the log book.

For example, lets say that I am using a Tek 494 A/P Spectrum 
Analyser, if I find a signal of interest that I am reasonably going 
to suspect is a bug, I will have a journal of how I set the equipment 
up, and the 1200 previous signals I have logged. SO then I realize 
that I have a really interesting signal I pop pictures of the 
instrument screen, then the controls, then both the controls and the 
display, then the laptop, the cables, the amps, etc. I then directly 
hard copy to a dedicated plotter and make at least 3 copies of 
everything. Then download all the computer collected data to three 
external sources, and then dump the data to paper.

When I am doing my "ladder walk" or the physical inspection of an 
office I write down and document everything, and I fill 300 pages of 
"found artifact" pages on even a small room.

-jma


At 09:23 PM 8/12/2008, kondrak wrote:

  
Thanks James. Im contacting the guy right now, for more details,
settings etc.
Yes, I was worried the attachments might be too big, so I shrunk them in
photoshop, and just
pasted them inside the text box. Now that I know, I know, thanks.
When Pete gives me more of the info from the readings he took, Ill pass
it along. Hes a competent tech in his own right, but he was short on the
settings he used.

Hes thinking now its some sort of home-plug signal, but I dont think its
homeplug above 20 meter ham band.

James M. Atkinson wrote:
    
When you post pictures of a signal to the list, please post one image
per posting, or you risk the post either bouncing, or list
subscribers not getting the images as there are too many attachments
(one picture per post, but you can make 15 posts if you like with 
      
no problem).
    
Also, please, please, please remember to show us or tell us what the
setting are on your spectrum analyzer or scope, for example, what is
the dispersion (span) or what we are looking at, what IF BW were you
using, what Video BW, what was the refresh rate?

Also, try to measure and define the bandwidth of what we are looking
at, then set your IFBW to approximately that BW (as close as you can
get), and show some shots of the screen in zero span mode so that we
can see the signal in the time domain.

Also, zoom out more, and show us more of the spectrum, or at least go
up and down a few screens so we get an idea of what else is on 
      
the airwaves.
    
On initial impression it looks like leakage from a broadband network,
but you need to provide a ton of additional information in the signals.

-jma




      
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  Granite Island Group                          Fax:      (978) 546-9467
  127 Eastern Avenue #291                 Web:    http://www.tscm.com/
  Gloucester, MA 01931-8008              E-mail:  mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com
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