Re: [TSCM-L] Patriot Act gets even more patriotic

From: Gregory <bria..._at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 02:28:52 -0700

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From: Gregory Hicks <ghi..._at_cadence.com>
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Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Patriot Act gets even more patriotic
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> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:44:28 -0500
> From: Greg Perry <gr..._at_liveammo.com>
>
> Dan,
>
> A pervasive and all-encompassing surveillance society is indeed in our
> collective futures, hence the need for more - and not less - US
> Constitutional protections.
>
> In my very much humble opinion, current legal happenings that affect or
> involve surveillance and wiretaps are topics well suited for this list.
>
> However, I'll be more than happy to take those topics offline and not
> mention another word if the list owner advocates such.

Dan/Greg/Group:

I hate to do a "me too" but I could not agree more with this point of view.

Well suited.

Regards,
Gregory Hicks
(Speaking for myself only of course.)

> With kind regards
>
> Greg
>
> d..._at_geer.org wrote:
>
> >Greg, et al.,
> >
> >(a) This is almost surely becoming a waste of good
> >people's mental bandwidth; might the moderator step
> >in and say so?
> >
> >(b) As to the "discussion," I am not in favor of lots
> >of things that are nevertheless inevitable and maybe even
> >already prevalent whether I like them or not. You think
> >I like surveillance? Not one tiny bit. No way. No how.
> >I hate it. I hate the reason for it. I hate the people
> >whose actions cause me to have to think about surveillance.
> >But surveillance looks rather inevitable in our present
> >situation where the means of surveillance are ever more
> >cheaply fielded, the bad people have ever more power to
> >do bad things plus they can count on instant worldwide
> >visibility when they do, and the public demands safety
> >from the present danger.
> >
> >With respect,
> >
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