Re: [TSCM-L] Re: Patriot Act gets even more patriotic

From: Greg Perry <gr..._at_liveammo.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:44:28 -0500

A pervasive and all-encompassing surveillance society is indeed in our
collective futures, hence the need for more - and not less - US
Constitutional protections.

In my very much humble opinion, current legal happenings that affect or
involve surveillance and wiretaps are topics well suited for this list.

However, I'll be more than happy to take those topics offline and not
mention another word if the list owner advocates such.

With kind regards

Greg

d..._at_geer.org wrote:

>Greg, et al.,
>
>(a) This is almost surely becoming a waste of good
>people's mental bandwidth; might the moderator step
>in and say so?
>
>(b) As to the "discussion," I am not in favor of lots
>of things that are nevertheless inevitable and maybe even
>already prevalent whether I like them or not. You think
>I like surveillance? Not one tiny bit. No way. No how.
>I hate it. I hate the reason for it. I hate the people
>whose actions cause me to have to think about surveillance.
>But surveillance looks rather inevitable in our present
>situation where the means of surveillance are ever more
>cheaply fielded, the bad people have ever more power to
>do bad things plus they can count on instant worldwide
>visibility when they do, and the public demands safety
>from the present danger.
>
>With respect,
>
>--dan
>
>
>Insightful/Inciteful Survey
>---------------------------
>
> 1 Do you plan to enroll in the Registered Traveller
> Program & are you more or less willing to give up your
> biometrics if the RTP is privatized?
>
> 2 Are you OK with surveillance cameras in public places;
> US density or UK density?
>
> 3 You on-board with Gilmore v. Ashcroft, that travel is a
> right not a privilege that requires identification?
>
> 4 Are license plate cameras and road use fees as will
> soon obtain in California OK from your point of view?
>
> 5 What about time of day electric pricing which, after
> all, absolutely will contain the information about when you
> are home or not?
>
> 6 Would you require a warrant for a through-the-wall
> infrared picture taken by a photographer standing in the
> middle of a public street; and would it matter if that
> person were a lunatic, a relative, or the gendarmes?
>
> 7 Is recording WIFI signalling from your house (I can see
> a dozen) amateur surveillance or a protected freedom?
>
> 8 Are Google search records rightfully accessible to a
> Grand Jury?
>
> 9 Bluetooth antennas and amplifiers are cheap; should
> that mean they require a license?
>
> 10 Have you disabled the black box in your car; should it
> be a crime to do so?
>
> 11 Have you tried to make a substantial purchase or bank
> deposit using cash lately?
>
> 12 Is Know-Your-Customer actually a surveillance
> requirement imposed on an unwillingly deputized private
> sector?
>
> 13 If you carry a cell phone, what do you make of the E911
> laws which effectively make any cell phone into a tracking
> device, and should tracking be monetized by the cell firms
> that were legislated into collecting it in the first place?
>
> 14 Are the kinds of revelation that must appear in public
> documents like divorce proceedings something you are
> comfortable with being on the web instead of a filing
> cabinet?
>
> 15 Is anonymous e-mail transmission something that ought
> to be banned while encryption is to be encouraged?
>
> 16 If Google Earth had access to the full precision the
> military has would you change what you do in your backyard
> and is your answer based on in whom you trust?
>
> 17 What do you think of laws that require every person
> arrested to give DNA samples?
>
> 18 Is it possible to forbid the collection of data that
> costs nothing to collect?
>
> 19 Is it possible to require the deletion of data that
> costs nothing to keep?
>
> 20 EZ Pass keeps toll records for ten years because it was
> a condition of license imposed by the State of New Jersey; OK
> by you?
>
> 21 Do you agree with John Poindexter that we do not need
> any more data at all, we only have to put together all that
> we already have?
>
>
>
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