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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:20:49 -0500
From: kondrak <kon..._at_phreaker.net>
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Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {4738} Toyota's Mysterious Black Boxes - Newsweek.com
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As well as Volvo, and some other large chassis trucks. I watched the
diagnostics being done on a firetruck (cant remember the chassis) a few
years back, and they could essentially run it to 70 mph, thru all the
gears, and activate the pumps and get dynamic readings. All while the
truck sat idling. I do remember it had a 300 HP Cummins 6 cyl engine.
The engine, transmission and pumps all were under computer control.
Its from Onion wrote:
> One of the most advanced computers is, believe it is in a Eaton big
> truck transmission. The thing will tell you everything.
>
>
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [TSCM-L] {4737} Toyota's Mysterious Black Boxes -
> Newsweek.com
>
> these are in most newer cars now, they include not only speed, but
> braking position and other information. They are routinely
> subpoenaed in crash cases.
> There are dummy chips available to bypass them and yet let the car
> work.
>
> Its from Onion wrote:
>>
>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/233585?GT1=43002
>>
>>
>>
>> "...Last month Yergin watched a Toyota rep download data in
>> Southlake, Texas, after a 2009 Avalon hit a tree and landed
>> upside down in a pond, killing all four passengers. A Toyota rep
>> showed up with the special laptop, but it yielded only the car's
>> speed when it struck the tree: 44mph."
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As well as Volvo, and some other large chassis trucks. I watched the
diagnostics being done on a firetruck (cant remember the chassis) a few
years back, and they could essentially run it to 70 mph, thru all the
gears, and activate the pumps and get dynamic readings. All while the
truck sat idling. I do remember it had a 300 HP Cummins 6 cyl engine.
The engine, transmission and pumps all were under computer control.<br>
<br>
Its from Onion wrote:
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<div>One of the most advanced computers is, believe it is in a Eaton
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these are in most newer cars now, they include not only speed, but
braking position and other information. They are routinely subpoenaed
in crash cases.<br>
There are dummy chips available to bypass them and yet let the car work.<br>
<br>
Its from Onion wrote:
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This group is sponsored by Granite Island Group to improve the
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prisoners, we don't play fair, and we give no quarter. Our professional
goal is to simply, and completely stop the spy.<br>
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