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How juvenile. =20
I didn't say it was true, and in fact your quotes don't say that either.
What it does say is that you have degraded yourself to the point of calling=
people names
because you are not adult nor literate enough to form a concise thought pat=
tern.
I feel sorry for people like you who cannot grow past the adolescent level =
of maturity=20
to even engage in a battle of wits. That must reside themselves to 'cut and=
paste' tactics.
Who knows, maybe it was your education or lack of that prevented you from b=
ecoming
nothing more that a 'keyboard commando'.
Maybe your parents didn't care enough about you take a interest in you soci=
al up-bringing.
Maybe if they did, you could grasp the concept of free thought and speech.
What are you doing here anyway? Peeping? You must be because no professio=
nal in our trade
would stoop to the level of ineptness you have shown with your one and only=
contribution
to this consortium of TSCM professionals.=20
People with true mental retardation show take offence that a person of your=
demeanor should
even attempt to classify another persons communication and social skills wh=
ile not possessing=20
enough degree of academic or vocational education to form even a marginal s=
landerous insult.=20
'Moron'. Did you have to look up the word, or are you just repeating what=
you have heard
people call you over and over.=20
Best you leave this group now, because it is obvious that you lack in moder=
n terms a brain.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tim<mailto:nightw..._at_comcast.net>=20
To: areda..._at_msn.com<mailto:areda..._at_msn.com> ; TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com=
<mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com>=20
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [areda..._at_msn.com: [TSCM-L] {3234} Sent to me.]
You are one sad little moron!
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/juvalaviv.asp<
http://www.snopes.com=
/rumors/soapbox/juvalaviv.asp>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuval_Aviv<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuv=
al_Aviv>
http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-10-16/news/secret-agent-schmuck/<http:/=
/www.villagevoice.com/2007-10-16/news/secret-agent-schmuck/>
>> ----- Forwarded message from Its from Onion <areda..._at_msn.com<mailto:a=
reda..._at_msn.com>> -----
>>
>> From: "Its from Onion" <areda..._at_msn.com<mailto:areda..._at_msn.com>>
>> To: "T S C M CHAT GROUP" <TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com<mailto:TSCM-..._at_g=
ooglegroups.com>>
>> Subject: [TSCM-L] {3234} Sent to me.
>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:25:18 -0600
>>
>> =20
>> Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie ' Munich ' was ba=
sed. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard -- she appointed him to track down and b=
ring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes ho=
stage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games. =20
>>
>> In a lecture in New York City a few weeks ago, he shared information t=
hat EVERY American needs to know -- but that our government has not yet sha=
red with us.=20
>>
>> He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fo=
x News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'=
Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on t=
he show. But, unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurre=
d. =20
>>
>> Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and t=
he Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before it oc=
curred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and tar=
get high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a=
security consultant. =20
>>
>> Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack =
on the U.S. will occur within the next few months. =20
>>
>> Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try =
and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go down=
quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke -- that we hav=
e been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are =
truly effective. =20
>>
>> For example: =20
>>
>> 1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new =
explosives are made of plastic. =20
>>
>> 2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Bec=
ause of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots t=
ried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids on board=
. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on=
his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked! =
Every strategy we have is 'reactionary.' =20
>>
>> 3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates. =
=20
>>
>> Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, t=
hey will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where peopl=
e are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of ex=
plosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to wat=
ch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, a=
nd then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel, se=
curity checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the airport. =20
>>
>> Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and wi=
ll involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large gr=
oups of people congregate. (i. e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big citie=
s (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include sh=
opping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as rural =
America this time (Wyoming, Montana, etc.). =20
>>
>> The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around th=
e country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, incl=
uding rural areas. =20
>>
>> Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many of the =
larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they can =
simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away. =20
>>
>> Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but =
that our U. S. government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with t=
he facts. =20
>>
>> The world is quickly going to become 'a different place', and issues l=
ike 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irreleva=
nt. =20
>>
>> On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concer=
ned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America=
will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-li=
ne approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's effective; and they have an infini=
te abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'. =
=20
>>
>> He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should b=
e most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead, 'ho=
megrown' -- having attended and been educated in our own schools and univer=
sities right here in the U. S. He says to look for 'students' who frequentl=
y travel back and forth to the Middle East . These young terrorists will be=
most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understa=
nd the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't know/understand a t=
hing about them. =20
>>
>> Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated abou=
t the terroristic threats we will, inevitably, face. America still has only=
have a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence net=
works, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON. =20
>>
>> So, what can America do to protect itself? =20
>>
>> >From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop re=
lying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, f=
ollow Israel 's, Ireland 's and England 's hands-on examples of human intel=
ligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to trust 'aware' =
citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; howe=
ver, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies=
'. Our government thinks we 'can't handle the truth' and are concerned that=
we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is=
a deadly mistake. =20
>>
>> Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by pl=
acing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities. =
The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it ou=
t. In fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal the briefcase! =20
>>
>> In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained'=
that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(=
s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly =
& calmly cleared by the citizens themselves. But, unfortunately, America ha=
sn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully unde=
rstand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand=
that it's their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defen=
se against terrorism. =20
>>
>> Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in Amer=
ica who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' with=
out parents being able to pick them up, and about ours schools that had no =
plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. =
(In New York City, this was days, in some cases!) =20
>>
>> He stresses the importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within=
your family, to respond to in the event of a terroristic emergency. He urg=
es parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools,=
too, develop plans of actions, as they do in Israel. =20
>>
>> Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by p=
hone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a =
plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and fol=
low. =20
>>
>> Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan that, in the e=
vent of another terrorist attack, will immediately cut-off EVERYONE's abili=
ty to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., as this is the preferred communi=
cation source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are =
detonated. =20
>>
>> How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot =
speak? You need to have a plan.=20
>>
>>=20
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<DIV>
<DIV>How juvenile. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I didn=92t say it was true, and in fact your quotes don=92t say that=
=20
either.</DIV>
<DIV>What it does say is that you have degraded yourself to the point of ca=
lling=20
people names</DIV>
<DIV>because you are not adult nor literate enough to form a concise=
=20
thought pattern.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I feel sorry for people like you who cannot grow past the adolescent l=
evel=20
of maturity </DIV>
<DIV>to even engage in a battle of wits. That must reside themselves to 'cu=
t and=20
paste' tactics.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Who knows, maybe it was your education or lack of that preve=
nted=20
you from becoming</DIV>
<DIV>nothing more that a 'keyboard commando'.</DIV>
<DIV>Maybe your parents didn=92t care enough about you take a interest in y=
ou=20
social up-bringing.</DIV>
<DIV>Maybe if they did, you could grasp the concept of free thought and=20
speech.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What are you doing here anyway? Peeping? You must be becau=
se no=20
professional in our trade</DIV>
<DIV>would stoop to the level of ineptness you have shown with your on=
e and=20
only contribution</DIV>
<DIV>to this consortium of TSCM professionals. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>People with true mental retardation show take offence that a person of=
your=20
demeanor should</DIV>
<DIV>even attempt to classify another persons communication and social skil=
ls=20
while not possessing </DIV>
<DIV>enough degree of academic or vocational education to form even a=
=20
marginal slanderous insult. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> 'Moron'. Did you have to look up the word, or are you just=
=20
repeating what you have heard</DIV>
<DIV>people call you over and over. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best you leave this group now, because it is obvious that you lack in=
=20
modern terms a brain.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmailto:nightw..._at_comcast.net=20
href=3D"mailto:nightw..._at_comcast.net">Tim</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dmailto:areda..._at_msn=
.com=20
href=3D"mailto:areda..._at_msn.com">areda..._at_msn.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dmailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com">TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:=
57=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [areda..._at_msn.com:=20
[TSCM-L] {3234} Sent to me.]</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>You are one sad little moron!<BR><BR><BR> <A=20
title=3D
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/juvalaviv.asp=20
href=3D"
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/juvalaviv.asp">
http://www.sn=
opes.com/rumors/soapbox/juvalaviv.asp</A><BR><BR> <A=20
title=3D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuval_Aviv=20
href=3D"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuval_Aviv">
http://en.wikipedia.org/=
wiki/Yuval_Aviv</A><BR><BR> <A=20
title=3D
http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-10-16/news/secret-agent-schmuck/=
=20
href=3D"
http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-10-16/news/secret-agent-schmuck/=
">
http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-10-16/news/secret-agent-schmuck/</A><BR>=
<BR><BR>>>=20
----- Forwarded message from Its from Onion <<A=20
title=3Dmailto:areda..._at_msn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:areda..._at_msn.com">areda..._at_msn.com</A>>=20
-----<BR>>><BR>>> From: "Its from Onion" <<A=20
title=3Dmailto:areda..._at_msn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:areda..._at_msn.com">areda..._at_msn.com</A>><BR>>> To:=
=20
"T S C M CHAT GROUP" <<A title=3Dmailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.co=
m=20
href=3D"mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com">TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com</A>&g=
t;<BR>>>=20
Subject: [TSCM-L] {3234} Sent to me.<BR>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009=
=20
21:25:18 -0600<BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>> Juval Avi=
v was=20
the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie ' Munich ' was based. He was Golda=
=20
Meir's bodyguard -- she appointed him to track down and bring to justice =
the=20
Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed t=
hem=20
during the Munich Olympic Games. =20
<BR>>><BR>>> In a lecture in New York City a few weeks ago, h=
e=20
shared information that EVERY American needs to know -- but that our=20
government has not yet shared with us. <BR>>><BR>>> He predic=
ted=20
the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating=
=20
publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughe=
d and=20
mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. But,=20
unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred. =20
<BR>>><BR>>> Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had=20
gathered in Israel and the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about=
9/11=20
a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use p=
lanes=20
as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has si=
nce=20
hired him as a security consultant. <BR>>><BR>>=
;>=20
Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on =
the=20
U.S. will occur within the next few months. =
=20
<BR>>><BR>>> Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says=20
terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the peopl=
e=20
onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport secur=
ity=20
is a joke -- that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in devel=
oping=20
strategies that are truly effective. =20
<BR>>><BR>>> For example: =20
<BR>>><BR>>> 1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look f=
or=20
metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.  =
;=20
<BR>>><BR>>> 2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light=
his=20
shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. =
A=20
group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bri=
ng=20
liquids on board. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour l=
iquid=20
explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all=20
traveling naked! Every strategy we have is=20
'reactionary.' <BR>>><BR>>&g=
t; 3)=20
We only focus on security when people are heading to the=20
gates. <BR>>><BR>>> Aviv says that if=
a=20
terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy ti=
mes=20
on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It wou=
ld be=20
easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy=
=20
check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute=
=20
while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags=
=20
BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel, security checks bags BEFOR=
E=20
people can even ENTER the airport. <BR>>><BR>>> A=
viv=20
says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will invol=
ve=20
suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of p=
eople=20
congregate. (i. e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, =
San=20
Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls,=
=20
subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as rural America this=
time=20
(Wyoming, Montana, etc.). <BR>>><BR>>>=
; The=20
attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the count=
ry=20
(terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including ru=
ral=20
areas. <BR>>><BR>>> Aviv =
says=20
terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities=
,=20
because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they can simply valet =
park=20
a car loaded with explosives and walk away. <BR>>><BR>>>=
;=20
Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but tha=
t our=20
U. S. government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the=20
facts. <BR>>><BR>>> The world is quickly going to becom=
e 'a=20
different place', and issues like 'global warming' and political correctn=
ess=20
will become totally irrelevant. <BR>>><BR>>>=
; On=20
an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned ab=
out=20
being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will no=
t use=20
sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach.=
It's=20
cheap, it's easy, it's effective; and they have an infinite abundance of =
young=20
militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'. =20
<BR>>><BR>>> He also says the next level of terrorists, over =
which=20
America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But wil=
l be,=20
instead, 'homegrown' -- having attended and been educated in our own scho=
ols=20
and universities right here in the U. S. He says to look for 'students' w=
ho=20
frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East . These young terrori=
sts=20
will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully=
=20
understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't=20
know/understand a thing about them. =20
<BR>>><BR>>> Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unawa=
re=20
and uneducated about the terroristic threats we will, inevitably, face.=
=20
America still has only have a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people=
in=20
our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change th=
at=20
fact SOON. <BR>>><BR>>> So, what can America do to prot=
ect=20
itself? <BR>>><BR>>> >From an intelligence perspecti=
ve,=20
Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for=
=20
intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel 's, Ireland 's and Engla=
nd 's=20
hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspe=
ctive=20
as well as to trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educa=
te=20
ourselves as citizens; however, our U. S. government continues to treat u=
s,=20
its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks we 'can't handle the t=
ruth'=20
and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of=20
terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake. =20
<BR>>><BR>>> Aviv recently created/executed a security test f=
or=20
our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots i=
n=20
five major cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a=20
policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal th=
e=20
briefcase! <BR>>><BR>>> In comparison, Aviv says that=
=20
citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or packag=
e=20
would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout,=20
'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the=
=20
citizens themselves. But, unfortunately, America hasn't been yet 'hurt en=
ough'=20
by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate=
its=20
citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who=
are,=20
inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism. =20
<BR>>><BR>>> Aviv also was concerned about the high number of=
=20
children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/1=
1,=20
who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our=
s=20
schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until par=
ents=20
could get there. (In New York City, this was days, in some cases!) &=
nbsp;=20
<BR>>><BR>>> He stresses the importance of having a plan, tha=
t's=20
agreed upon within your family, to respond to in the event of a terrorist=
ic=20
emergency. He urges parents to contact their children's schools and deman=
d=20
that the schools, too, develop plans of actions, as they do in=20
Israel. <BR>>><BR>>> Does your family=
know=20
what to do if you can't contact one another by phone? Where would you gat=
her=20
in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough fo=
r=20
even our youngest children to remember and follow.  =
;=20
<BR>>><BR>>> Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force=
a=20
plan that, in the event of another terrorist attack, will immediately cut=
-off=20
EVERYONE's ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., as this is the=
=20
preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way th=
at=20
their bombs are detonated. <BR>>><BR>>&g=
t;=20
How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot spe=
ak?=20
You need to have a plan. <BR>>><BR>>>=20
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