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From: Markella Liberto <horiz..._at_yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {2863} Re: phones in the fridge
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Rob,
=A0=A0 Very ggood point; especially the mention of watergate. I guess looki=
ng at the situation from a legal stand point, it would depend on how you ob=
tain the list of customers. In business I think unless being caught red han=
ded such as the person in the article, it would be hard to prove "theft" of=
a list of customers, but being this is dealing with politics,=A0I assume t=
hat "dirt" is wanted on the targeted party.
=A0=A0=A0 You are right; there is no sense of history or common sense in po=
litics, that is what is so very disturbing and scary, especially for future=
generations.
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Rob Hommel <rho..._at_mad.scientist.com> wrote:
From: Rob Hommel <rho..._at_mad.scientist.com>
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2863} Re: phones in the fridge
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 7:12 PM
Mark:
It would seem that in the world of politics there is no sense of history or
common sense. In the not too distant past a President of these United State=
s was
brought down thanks in part to a similar situation. The bugging of the offi=
ces
of the rival political party in a building named Watergate. The attempted c=
over
up brought ruination to that party and the President. Several persons went =
to
jail as well, to this day Watergate haunts politics.
There seems to be a problem today with people, they seem to think that ther=
e is
a difference between what is referred to as "white collar crime" and
your average day to day criminals, or "blue collar crime". The
disconnect seems to be something about the rumor of country club prisons.=
=20
They expect to be housed in a place where they will have access to the golf
green and tennis court. After all they didn't really do anything wrong.=20
In business to be able to steal a list of your competitors customers is
considered a coup. Now we can target their customers and tell them why our
product is better. Notice I mentioned the word "steal" in the previous
sentence. Is this theft, is it a crime? That is the question business edges
around.
rhommel
rhommel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Markella Liberto"=20
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2861} Re: phones in the fridge
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:40:27 -0700 (PDT)
It is truly amazing to what extent some people will go, to find some kind o=
f
information to use against political parties. Yes, she should have detained=
the
person and contacted authorities. Not only would this assure criminal charg=
es
against the person found in her room, but it would also prove an embarrassm=
ent
to the parties in which he was working for.
I thought politics were to be about issues concerning betterment of the pub=
lic,
not about the personal lives of candidates.
--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Rob Hommel <rho..._at_mad.scientist.com> wrote:
From: Rob Hommel <rho..._at_mad.scientist.com>
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2860} phones in the fridge
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 11:13 PM
On the political side heres one for everybody. What actions should she have
taken. I recommend her detaining the person and calling the police.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/08/25/18529574.php
rhommel
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<DIV> Very ggood point; especially the mention of watergate. I guess looking at the situation from a legal stand point, it would depend on how you obtain the list of customers. In business I think unless being caught red handed such as the person in the article, it would be hard to prove "theft" of a list of customers, but being this is dealing with politics, I assume that "dirt" is wanted on the targeted party.<BR> You are right; there is no sense of history or common sense in politics, that is what is so very disturbing and scary, especially for future generations.<BR>--- On <B>Wed, 8/27/08, Rob Hommel <I><rh..._at_mad.scientist.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Rob Hommel <rh..._at_mad.scientist.com><BR>Subject: [TSCM-L] {2863} Re: phones in the fridge<BR>To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com<BR>Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 7:12 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Mark:
It would seem that in the world of politics there is no sense of history or
common sense. In the not too distant past a President of these United States was
brought down thanks in part to a similar situation. The bugging of the offices
of the rival political party in a building named Watergate. The attempted cover
up brought ruination to that party and the President. Several persons went to
jail as well, to this day Watergate haunts politics.
There seems to be a problem today with people, they seem to think that there is
a difference between what is referred to as "white collar crime" and
your average day to day criminals, or "blue collar crime". The
disconnect seems to be something about the rumor of country club prisons.
They expect to be housed in a place where they will have access to the golf
green and tennis court. After all they didn't really do anything wrong.
In business to be able to steal a list of your competitors customers is
considered a coup. Now we can target their customers and tell them why our
product is better. Notice I mentioned the word "steal" in the previous
sentence. Is this theft, is it a crime? That is the question business edges
around.
rhommel
rhommel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Markella Liberto"
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2861} Re: phones in the fridge
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:40:27 -0700 (PDT)
It is truly amazing to what extent some people will go, to find some kind of
information to use against political parties. Yes, she should have detained the
person and contacted authorities. Not only would this assure criminal charges
against the person found in her room, but it would also prove an embarrassment
to the parties in which he was working for.
I thought politics were to be about issues concerning betterment of the public,
not about the personal lives of candidates.
--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Rob Hommel <rh..._at_mad.scientist.com> wrote:
From: Rob Hommel <rh..._at_mad.scientist.com>
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2860} phones in the fridge
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 11:13 PM
On the political side heres one for everybody. What actions should she have
taken. I recommend her detaining the person and calling the police.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/08/25/18529574.php
rhommel
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