Re: [TSCM-L] {3627} Re: P.U.N.K.D. Guide to Bugs (S)

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Hello Folks

If I may jump into this discussion.... apart from the notification SOP =20
and forensics that people have talked about, I think what James =20
(Greenwold) is enquiring about is: what are the 'typical' sorts of =20
devices one might encounter during a sweep.
Obviously, this will depend a great deal on who your adversary is and =20
what is the threat assessment (capability). We are not necessarily =20
going to see images or details about the types of 'sophisticated' =20
devices used by intelligence agencies, but I would love to have a =20
discussion about some of the credible threats we need to be aware of, =20
especially at the higher end of the spectrum. JMA has already =20
published a great deal of generic information about frequencies and =20
modulation etc. but it would be nice to better understand what =20
credible threats are out there!

Regards
Mike
Michael J. Dever CPP PSP

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On 27/04/2009, at 12:25 PM, TSCM/SO Group wrote:

> We document any discovered device or apparatus/technologies used to =20
> support a device. Video /Stills, whatever works best.
> Most of the time the find or remnants thereof will end up on a =20
> lawyer=92s desk; we want to answer all questions they may have through =
=20
> documentation and imaging.
> Police reports are obtained at client request, if so, that will go =20
> with the find. If the find is a gov device different OP takes effect.
> Corporate and domestic scenarios are handled differently. If =20
> domestic, Its up to the attorney.
> that retained us. Corporate; its up to the client
> hope this helps
>
>
>
> Mitch Davis
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> Subject: [TSCM-L] {3622} Re: P.U.N.K.D. Guide to Bugs (S)
>
> Okay we have done this funny in a couple different ways. This one =20
> and about a year ago when I asked if any one had pictures of devices =20
> they had found.
>
> Now if it is at all possible, can someone actually answer the =20
> question?
>
> It is SOP to photograph devices as they are found. The government =20
> job I had 30 years ago has advanced devices that are now made =20
> obsolete by Mattel Toys. The few devices I have found over the =20
> years are recorders and cell phones that every one knows about. I =20
> have never seen anything that I would consider a state of the art =20
> device.
>
> Can any one show me an example?
> --=20
> James Greenwold
> Bureau of Technical Services
> P.O. Box 191
> Chippewa Falls, WI54729
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> 715-726-1400
> http://www.tacticalsurveillance.com
> t..._at_charterinternet.com
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>
>
> On 4/25/09 11:19 PM, "James M. Atkinson" <jm..._at_tscm.com> wrote:
>
> (S) Highly classified guide to the identification of bugs.
>
> (S) Please do not distribute to non-cleared personnel
>
> -jma
>
>
>
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g about is: what are the 'typical' sorts of devices one might encounter dur=
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cated' devices used by intelligence agencies, but I would love to have a di=
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al of generic information about frequencies and modulation etc. but it woul=
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ont></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0i=
n; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'=
; "><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">hope this helps<o:p></o:p></span=
></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left=
: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Ro=
man'; "><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-=
size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in=
; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';=
 "><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></=
div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; mar=
gin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><f=
ont size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt=
; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></div><=
div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; mar=
gin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><f=
ont size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"font-size: 12p=
t; font-family: Tahoma; color: navy; ">Mitch Davis<br>TSCM/Special Operatio=
ns Group<br><st1:street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on">20 Music Squar=
e West,Suite 208</st1:address></st1:street><br><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:=
city w:st=3D"on">Nashville</st1:city>,<st1:state w:st=3D"on">TN</st1:state>=
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><st1:postalcode w:st=3D"=
on">37203</st1:postalcode><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</spa=
n><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place><br>6=
15 251 0441<br>Fax 615 523 0300<br><a href=3D"mailto:mit..._at_tscmusa.com" st=
yle=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mit..._at_tscmusa.com</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.tscmusa.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: =
underline; ">www.tscmusa.com</a></span></font><font color=3D"navy"><span st=
yle=3D"color: navy; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-t=
op: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font=
-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><i><font size=3D"2" color=3D=
"navy" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;=
 color: navy; font-style: italic; ">"</span></font></i><i><font size=3D"1" =
color=3D"navy" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"font-size: 7.5pt; font-family=
: Tahoma; color: navy; font-style: italic; ">maintaining a higher degree of=
 excellence"</span></font></i><i><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Ta=
homa"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: navy; fon=
t-style: italic; "><br></span></font></i><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Tahom=
a"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; color: navy; ">*********************=
*********<br>Tools for investigators at<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space=
">&nbsp;</span></span></font><font color=3D"navy"><span style=3D"color: nav=
y; "><a href=3D"http://www.covertworx.com/" eudora=3D"autourl" style=3D"col=
or: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><font face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=
=3D"font-family: Tahoma; ">www.covertworx.com</span></font></a></span></fon=
t><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; =
color: navy; "></span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class=3D"MsoN=
ormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align: center; margin-top: 0in; margi=
n-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; f=
ont-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; "><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"ce=
nter" tabindex=3D"-1"></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; ma=
rgin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt=
; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From=
:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp=
;</span><st1:personname w:st=3D"on"><a href=3D"mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups=
.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">TSCM-..._at_googlegr=
oups.com</a></st1:personname><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</=
span>[mailto:<st1:personname w:st=3D"on"><a href=3D"mailto:TSCM-..._at_googleg=
roups.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">TSCM-..._at_goo=
glegroups.com</a></st1:personname>]<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&n=
bsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class=
=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b>bts<br><b><span style=3D=
"font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"=
>&nbsp;</span>Sunday, April 26, 2009 10:45 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-wei=
ght: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</sp=
an><st1:personname w:st=3D"on"><a href=3D"mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com"=
 style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.=
com</a></st1:personname><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; ">Subject:=
</span></b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[TSCM-L] {362=
2} Re: P.U.N.K.D. Guide to Bugs (S)</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><di=
v style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bot=
tom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font siz=
e=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; "><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0=
in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family=
: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-=
size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; ">Okay we have done this funny in a couple d=
ifferent ways. &nbsp;This one and about a year ago when I asked if any one =
had pictures of devices they had found.<br><br>Now if it is at all possible=
, can someone actually answer the question?<br><br>It is SOP to photograph =
devices as they are found. &nbsp;The government job I had 30 years ago has =
advanced devices that are now made obsolete by Mattel Toys. &nbsp;The few d=
evices I have found over the years are recorders and cell phones that every=
 one knows about. &nbsp;I have never seen anything that I would consider a =
state of the art device.<br><br>Can any one show me an example?<br>--<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>James Greenwold<br>Bureau =
of Technical Services<br><st1:address w:st=3D"on"><st1:street w:st=3D"on">P=
.O. Box</st1:street><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>191<=
/st1:address><br><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:placename w:st=3D"on">Chippewa=
</st1:placename><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><st1:pla=
cetype w:st=3D"on">Falls</st1:placetype></st1:place>, WI54729<br><br>715-72=
6-1400<br><a href=3D"http://www.tacticalsurveillance.com" style=3D"color: b=
lue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.tacticalsurveillance.com</a><=
br><a href=3D"mailto:t..._at_charterinternet.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-d=
ecoration: underline; ">t..._at_charterinternet.com</a><br><br><br><br>On 4/25=
/09 11:19 PM, "James M. Atkinson" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com" sty=
le=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">jm..._at_tscm.com</a>> wrote:=
</span></font><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right:=
 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-fami=
ly: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; "><br>(S) Highly classified guide to the i=
dentification of bugs.<br><br>(S) Please do not distribute to non-cleared p=
ersonnel<br><br>-jma<br><br><br><br><br>-----------------------------------=
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Phone: &nbsp;(978) 546-3803<br>&nbsp;Gr=
anite Island Group &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;Fax: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(978) 546-9467<br>&nbsp;127=
 Eastern Avenue #291 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Web: &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.=
tscm.com/" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.t=
scm.com/</a><br>&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.tscm.com/" style=3D"color: blue=
; text-decoration: underline; ">&lt;http://www.tscm.com/></a><span class=3D=
"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;<st1:city w:st=3D"on"><st1:place=
 w:st=3D"on">Gloucester</st1:place></st1:city>, MA 01931-8008 &nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;E-mail:<span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com"=
 style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com<=
/a><br><br>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com" style=3D"color: blue; te=
xt-decoration: underline; ">&lt;mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com></a><span class=3D"Ap=
ple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Li=
nked In Profile:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=
=3D"http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmatkinson" style=3D"color: blue; text-d=
ecoration: underline; ">http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmatkinson</a><br>&n=
bsp;<a href=3D"http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmatkinson" style=3D"color: b=
lue; text-decoration: underline; ">&lt;http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmatk=
inson></a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b>---=
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n one concealed from the<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>=
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1521<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><br></span></fon=
t><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin=
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ew Roman'; "><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt;=
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