Re: [TSCM-L] {6476} Aeroflot Flight 150

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Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] {6480} Aeroflot Flight 150
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:26:51 -0400
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If you look at the previous flights and compare even today's current flight.
Normally they fly over a Iceland . Yesterday's flight avoided Iceland and
flew a lot further south. Today's flight (planned and flown) are further
north just barely touching Greenland. The actual flight is further north
and further closer to the US Coast than the filed flight plan.

 

From: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com [mailto:tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of James M. Atkinson
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:32 PM
To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {6480} Aeroflot Flight 150

 

The first thing to observe is that this flight went to tremendous effort to
avoid U.S. territory, or airspace over territorial waters. Even if it was
weather related at the highr altitudes of 35,000 to 40,000 feet, the air
currents were not an issue over Greenland, and Canada, all of which were
carefully avoided on the flight.

Snowden may or may not have been on the flight (note the "live conference
with him in Moscow this morning" that suggests that this could have been a
"ferret flight" to test the U.S. response).

The flight path take by this flight burned more fuel, and the "winds" do not
appear to be at the altitudes this plane as flying at.

The flights merely 2 days prior took the normal path, and it seems the
common path on prior flights is to hug the Coast of Canada and the United
States for a goodly mount of the flight time, then to sing out over the
Bahamas and descend into Havana by way of "The Gauntlet" of anti-aircraft
artillery and surface to air missiles they have on the North Coast.

-jma



David I. Emery wrote:

yOn Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 04:54:08AM +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
  

The flight track is here:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFL150
 
The path deviations don't look too significant to me. Could be a common
trajectory adjustment due to less than ideal local weather conditions.
    

 
  Try comparing that flight with all the others on the same route
listed on Flight Aware... Jim does have a point here...
 
 
  





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Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com [mailto:=
tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James M. Atkinson<br><b>Sent=
:</b> Friday, July 12, 2013 3:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com=
<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TSCM-L] {6480} Aeroflot Flight 150<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>The first thing to observe is that this flight went to tremendous eff=
ort to avoid U.S. territory, or airspace over territorial waters. Even if i=
t was weather related at the highr altitudes of 35,000 to 40,000 feet, the =
air currents were not an issue over Greenland, and Canada, all of which wer=
e carefully avoided on the flight. <br><br>Snowden may or may not have been=
 on the flight (note the &quot;live conference with him in Moscow this morn=
ing&quot; that suggests that this could have been a &quot;ferret flight&quo=
t; to test the U.S. response).<br><br>The flight path take by this flight b=
urned more fuel, and the &quot;winds&quot; do not appear to be at the altit=
udes this plane as flying at.<br><br>The flights merely 2 days prior took t=
he normal path, and it seems the common path on prior flights is to hug the=
 Coast of Canada and the United States for a goodly mount of the flight tim=
e, then to sing out over the Bahamas and descend into Havana by way of &quo=
t;The Gauntlet&quot; of anti-aircraft artillery and surface to air missiles=
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