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Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {6481} Aeroflot Flight 150
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Also this flight flew over continental europe, most notably france.
On Jul 12, 2013 3:33 PM, "James M. Atkinson" <jm..._at_tscm.com> wrote:
> **
> The first thing to observe is that this flight went to tremendous effort
> to avoid U.S. territory, or airspace over territorial waters. Even if it
> was weather related at th ehighr altitudes of 35,000 to 40,000 feet, the
> air current were not an issue over Greenland, and Canada, all of which were
> carefully avoided on the flight.
>
> Snowden may or may not have been on the flight (note the "live conference
> with him in Moscow this morning" that suggests that this could have been a
> "ferret flight" to test the U.S. response).
>
> The flight path take by this flight burned more fuel, and the "winds" do
> not appear to be at the altitudes this plane as flying at.
>
> The flights merely 2 days prior took the normal path, and it seems the
> common path on prior flights is to hug the Coast of Canada and the United
> States for a goodly mount of the flight time, then to sing out over the
> Bahamas and descend into Havana by way of "The Gauntlet" of anti-aircraft
> artillery and surface to air missiles they have on the North Coast.
>
> -jma
>
>
>
> David I. Emery wrote:
>
> yOn Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 04:54:08AM +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
>
>
> The flight track is here:http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFL150
>
> The path deviations don't look too significant to me. Could be a common
> trajectory adjustment due to less than ideal local weather conditions.
>
>
>
> Try comparing that flight with all the others on the same route
> listed on Flight Aware... Jim does have a point here...
>
>
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<p>Also this flight flew over continental europe, most notably france.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 12, 2013 3:33 PM, "James M. Atkinson=
" <<a href=3D"mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com">jm..._at_tscm.com</a>> wrote:<=
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The first thing to observe is that this flight went to tremendous
effort to avoid U.S. territory, or airspace over territorial waters.
Even if it was weather related at th ehighr altitudes of 35,000 to
40,000 feet, the air current were not an issue over Greenland, and
Canada, all of which were carefully avoided on the flight. <br>
<br>
Snowden may or may not have been on the flight (note the "live
conference with him in Moscow this morning" that suggests that this
could have been a "ferret flight" to test the U.S. response).<br>
<br>
The flight path take by this flight burned more fuel, and the "winds&q=
uot;
do not appear to be at the altitudes this plane as flying at.<br>
<br>
The flights merely 2 days prior took the normal path, and it seems the
common path on prior flights is to hug the Coast of Canada and the
United States for a goodly mount of the flight time, then to sing out
over the Bahamas and descend into Havana by way of "The Gauntlet"=
of
anti-aircraft artillery and surface to air missiles they have on the
North Coast.<br>
<br>
-jma<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
David I. Emery wrote:
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<pre>yOn Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 04:54:08AM +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<pre>The flight track is here:
<a href=3D"
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFL150" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFL150</a>
The path deviations don't look too significant to me. Could be a common=
=20
trajectory adjustment due to less than ideal local weather conditions.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>
=09Try comparing that flight with all the others on the same route
listed on Flight Aware... Jim does have a point here...
</pre>
</blockquote>
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