Re: [TSCM-L] {3751} Wasp Spray

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Wasp spray is indeed a good weapon to attack someone, or to repell an
attack. The streaming kind does in fact shoot for a good distance,
and we all know there are quite a few Wasps around churches and all.

Most bug or wasp sprays are actually a version of nerve gas, and a
full can blast can actually kill someone fairly quickly even if they
are not allergic to the spray.

Given that this would only be used to defend oneself against an
attack you have to ask your self. Is killing the other person with a
nerve agent really a problem?

Personally, I would suggest the following Wasp Spray

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=50&productid=166

A lot of people are allergic to hollow points more then they are to Wasp Spray.

http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/handgun/golden_saber_HPJ.asp
http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics/detail.aspx?loadNo=23975

I am just being practical.

If the person is concerned about personal safety then they should
forget about Wasp sprays and carry something compact that is
appropriate for the threat.

There are also chemical weapons that may suit the application better
such as Aerosol OC or CS, but they require training for any level of
proficiency.

-jma


At 08:11 AM 6/7/2009, Fernando Martins wrote:
>Be aware that there are people allergic to wasp and bee poison, and
>a spray like that may cause death.
>
>FM
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:areda..._at_msn.com>Its from Onion
>Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 2:58 AM
>Subject: [TSCM-L] {3751} Wasp Spray
>
>Wasp Spray
>I have a friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk
>area who was concerned about someone coming into the office on
>Monday to rob them when they were counting the collection.
>Wasp spray was recommended to her.
>The wasp spray, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more
>accurate, while the pepper spray you have to get too close and
>someone could overpower you.
>The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the
>hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk in the office
>and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper
>spray would. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection.
>Thought this was interesting and might be of use...


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Wasp spray is indeed a good weapon to attack someone, or to repell an
attack. The streaming kind does in fact shoot for a good distance, and we
all know there are quite a few Wasps around churches and all.<br><br>
Most bug or wasp sprays are actually a version of nerve gas, and a full
can blast can actually kill someone fairly quickly even if they are not
allergic to the spray.<br><br>
Given that this would only be used to defend oneself against an attack
you have to ask your self. Is killing the other person with a nerve agent
really a problem?<br><br>
Personally, I would suggest the following Wasp Spray<br><br>
<a href="http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=50&amp;productid=166" eudora="autourl">
http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=50&amp;productid=166<br>
<br>
</a>A lot of people are allergic to hollow points more then they are to
Wasp Spray.<br><br>
<a href="http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/handgun/golden_saber_HPJ.asp" eudora="autourl">
http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/handgun/golden_saber_HPJ.asp<br>
</a>
<a href="http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics/detail.aspx?loadNo=23975" eudora="autourl">
http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics/detail.aspx?loadNo=23975<br><br>
</a>I am just being practical. <br><br>
If the person is concerned about personal safety then they should forget
about Wasp sprays and carry something compact that is appropriate for the
threat.<br><br>
There are also chemical weapons that may suit the application better such
as Aerosol OC or CS, but they require training for any level of
proficiency.<br><br>
-jma<br><br>
<br>
At 08:11 AM 6/7/2009, Fernando Martins wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Be aware that there are people
allergic to wasp and bee poison, and a spray like that may cause
death.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
FM
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<dd>----- Original Message -----
<dd>From: <a href="mailto:areda..._at_msn.com">Its from Onion</a>
<dd>Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 2:58 AM
<dd>Subject: [TSCM-L] {3751} Wasp Spray<br>

<dd>&nbsp;
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times">Wasp Spray <br>

<dd>I have a friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area
who was concerned about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob
them when they were counting the collection.
<dd>Wasp spray was recommended to her.
<dd>The wasp spray, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more
accurate, while the pepper spray you have to get too close and someone
could overpower you. <br>

<dd>The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the
hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk in the office and
it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper spray
would. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection.
<dd>Thought this was interesting and might be of use...
</font></blockquote>
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