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Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {3732} Re: Way to find a phone number's provider?
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 00:28:09 -0500
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this brings up a point about spoofing numbers. Always, ALWAYS use a passwo=
rd on your phones.

if I use a spoof card and call your cell phone, most cell phones will think=
 it is you calling it,
and unless you have a password on your voicemail; it will open up like a ba=
ked clam
and give up all messages.

someone could even CHANGE the passcode and block your own phone.

something that is often over looked. Convenience is a security killer!=20





  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James M. Atkinson<mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com>=20
  To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com<mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com>=20
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:04 AM
  Subject: [TSCM-L] {3732} Re: Way to find a phone number's provider?


  Nah, it is not worth the trouble. Most of the time the RoboCalls come fro=
m a spoofed number.

  What you have to do is wait for the message to give you a call back numbe=
r, or carefully trick the human who eventually picks up into giving you a c=
all back number (which may or may not be an accurate call back number).=20

  Since they are usually frantic to sell you something, if you express enou=
gh interest initially and get them to invest a few minutes of human time on=
 the call you can often get a call back number that actually works.

  -jma



  At 07:05 PM 6/2/2009, ri..._at_coimc.org wrote:


    Hey TSCM,

    I'm trying to get some robocall revenge. Does anybody know of a way to
    find the provider for a cell phone or landline? There's no directory
    info for the phone numbers I'm trying to trace.

    Thanks,
    Ringo



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<DIV>someone could even CHANGE the passcode and block your own phone.</DIV>
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