Walter F Mueller vs The Birdman - Part 1

 

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Several days ago Walter Mueller put out a letter to his 'Patriot Letter' 
mailing list in which he advocated that pro-whites needed to unite and 
focus their energies on a single issue, namely, their opposition to Jews.  
Birdman reproduced this letter on his website, but commented negatively 
about Mueller's social skills.  This resulted in the cascade of 
correspondence reproduced below, including a defense of the Birdman by Mark 
F.  Two significant features of this correspondence are Birdman's defense 
of Willis Carto against charges made by the late Prof Revilo Oliver, and 
the fact that Mueller shows himself to be a coward and a liar, and a not-
very-bright one at that.  


On 6/27/03 at 6:48 PM Walter Mueller wrote:

>Dear Fellow Patriot!
>
>
>
>Helllllooooooooo! It's been a hot, sizzling week in
>Sacramento. Thank good for the "cement pond". 
>
>I guess hot and sizzling is also the right description
>for what's happening with our discussion about "a call
>to action". 
>
>John Byrant, or "The Birdman" as he calls himself, has
>posted the call for action on his web. I've been on
>his website several times and it is nothing I really
>care for, however, the big plus, he is a big freedom
>of speech supporter. He thinks that I am "no Moses to
>lead the people across the ocean", because once he
>wrote me an e-mail and I didn't respond. Huuuuh! How
>kleinkariert. 
>
>http://www.birdman.org
>
>Also, a few have asked to be taken off my Patriot
>Letter list, including Germar Rudolf. I will refrain
>from any further comments until Sunday, where I will
>do a summary of the results of my call to action. Be
>afraid, be very afraid (just kidding)! Until then,
>you'll have until Saturday, 6:00pm Pacific Standard
>Time, to get your responses in. 
>
>This is something I love to do. Sometimes an e-mailer,
>activist, revisionist, or whomever, grabs my
>attention. You know what I mean, when somebody
>stimulates your little gray cells. That can be happen
>two ways. Completely negative and excessively
>positive. When that happens, you've seen some of my
>comments about these experiences. They are either
>critical, as it was with Carto, Countess, Rudolf, etc.
>- you get the meaning. However, there are those where
>the stimulation is quite enlightening, enjoyable, and
>sensational. I also then tell you about a great guy
>and mind (Mark Weber, Carlos Porter, Bradley Smith,
>Robert Faurrison, etc, etc.) - you get the picture. 
>
>So here is another one of these great minds. I've
>checked him out for quite some time, been on his
>website a few times, and came to the conclusion that
>he does belong in my hall of fame. A reminder: Anyone
>in my hall of fame is not safe of criticism! There
>will always be times where I disagree with them.
>However, they have earned my deepest respect. 
>
>I am just glad that this one is on our side: 
>
>James von Brunn, a great German name. Might even be
>one of the long-lost "Deutscher Land Adel". Von Brunn
>hold a Bac.Si. Journalism Degree. During WWII he
>served as PT - Boat Captain, receiving accommodation
>and four battle stars. But here is what makes this guy
>hall of fame material: In 1981, von Brunn attempted to
>place the governors of the Federal Reserve Board under
>legal non-violent citizen arrest. He was tried in
>Washington DC, convicted by a black jury and sentenced
>by a Jew judge to 11 years in prison. He served 6.5
>years in federal prison. Boy, do I want to meet this
>guy! 
>
>You can check his website at
>
>http://www.holywesternempire.org
>
>
>
>And now to a little bit of a sticky issue. I've been
>asked so many times now to give a little bio, mostly
>from those of you who pass on the Patriot Letter to
>their list . This is so cool!!
>
>Not that I have a problem with this, I just don't want
>the enemy to have too much information. But,
>nevertheless, here is a bio that covers it all:
>
>My family on my mother's side left Dresden in 1946,
>after having lost a large amount of relatives. For a
>short time they settled in Upper Austria, near
>Mauthausen. There, my mom married my dad, and so I
>became one out of seven siblings. We then moved to
>Vienna, where I grew up. trained as a chef and pastry
>chef, I moved to Munich to the parents of my
>half-brother, after my parents died.
>
>I am now 50 years old and moved to the States 25 years
>ago. I got involved in local politics, ran for office
>in 1998, became the most celebrated "neighborhood
>hero" and, today, I am the "most hateful person of
>Sacramento County", according to the press. 
>
>Revisionism (especially Adolf Hitler, holocaust and
>WWII) is my passion. With me, what you see is what you
>get. Today I publish a print newspaper, called
>"Community News", with a run of 20,000, and almost
>2,000 subscribers. I also - free of charge -
>distribute the Patriot Letter on the Internet. 
>
>That's all folks!
>
>
>
>Now back to the exciting stuff. In this Patriot Letter
>I let the revisionists "vent" about their "issues".
>
>First up, one of my favorite guys, Mark Weber
>
>http://www.ihr.org
>
>[START]
>
>Dear Fredrick, I read with interest your defense of
>Willis Carto, and what you wrote about the Carto-IHR
>dispute. In this item -- distributed by Walter Mueller
>with his Patriot Letter of June 26, and also by you --
>you overlook key facts and make several statements,
>including one about me, that are misleading or untrue.
>
>
>The basic facts of the Carto-IHR dispute are clear.
>Willis and Elizabeth Carto, together with others,
>secretly diverted millions of dollars that belonged to
>the IHR and its parent corporation (LSF), and used
>this
>money for their own purposes. The Cartos broke the two
>signed agreements they concluded with us to resolve
>this dispute. Through The Spotlight and its successor
>American Free Press, the Cartos have for years engaged
>in a smear campaign against the IHR and individuals
>associated with it. Their claims that we are CIA, ADL
>and/or Mossad agents are absurd lies. 
>
>In a crucial 1996 trial in California Superior Court
>(north San Diego County), Judge Runston Maino
>considered voluminous evidence, including detailed
>testimony by the Cartos, and hundreds of pages of
>documents. At the conclusion of the exhaustive trial,
>Judge Maino found that $7.5 million from the estate of
>the late Jean Farrel belonged to plaintiff LSF/IHR,
>and that "all defendants," that is, including Willis
>and Elisabeth Carto, "have substantially interfered
>with the plaintiff's [IHR/LSF's] property rights as to
>this $7.5 million." 
>
>"Mr. Carto intentionally lied to the Furrs and other
>actual and purported members of the Board of Directors
>of the Legion [LSF/IHR] so nobody would know of his
>illegal acts," the Judge declared. As evidence
>presented in the case made clear, these "illegal acts"
>include Carto's forgery of fraudulent corporate
>documents, and his handling of corporate funds as if
>they were his personal property. 
>
>Carto's "entire attitude" during the trial, wrote
>Judge Maino, was "one of arrogance, deceit,
>evasiveness, and convenient memory." 
>
>In a number of legal cases, including some initiated
>by the Cartos themselves, courts have repeatedly found
>that the Cartos' actions have been improper and
>illegal. In one case, Judge John J. Hargrove of US
>Bankruptcy Court in southern California specifically
>declared in his judgment of Jan. 27, 2000: "The Court
>hereby further determines that Defendants Carto are
>liable to Plaintiff LSF [IHR] for embezzlement."  
>
>Willis Carto routinely wrote up fraudulent "minutes"
>of LSF board meetings that never took place, and had
>the pliant Lavonne Furr sign them. One of the most
>important of these documents are the phony
>“minutes,” written by Carto, of an board meeting that
>supposedly took place on March 5, 1991. At this
>fictitious meeting, Harvey Taylor supposedly voted to
>turn over millions of dollars from the IHR (LSF) --
>that is, the Jean Farrel money -- to "a suitable
>independent organization” controlled by Carto. Harvey
>Taylor did not participate in any such meeting.
>Carto's claim that he did is not only a lie, it was a
>fraud that he used to steal millions of dollars meant
>for the IHR.
>
>In the case of the Farrel estate, it should be kept in
>mind that Jean Farrel initially contacted IHR Director
>Tom Marcellus -- not Carto -- to support the Institute
>for Historical Review. When Carto learned that this
>woman had lots of money, he took the Farrel folder
>from the IHR office files and "handled" her himself. 
>
>Willis Carto claims that the courts have repeatedly
>ruled against him because he is the victim of a
>far-flung conspiracy involving the judges, the CIA,
>the Israeli Mossad, and the Church of Scientology. It
>is
>difficult to accept that Carto really believes this,
>given that he (and his wife), have for years filed one
>lawsuit after another against their adversaries in
>these same “corrupt” and "biased" courts. 
>
>You write that the millions of dollars from the Farrel
>estate “technically” belonged to the IHR, but that
>“morally” this money “was Carto’s because he was the
>IHR.” Well, it’s certainly true that Carto
>treated that money as if it was his property. To this
>day, he has not given a real accounting of his
>handling of millions of dollars that was, as you put
>it, “technically,” the property of the IHR. Nor has he
>ever given an accounting of millions of dollars he has
>handled through Liberty Lobby and other entities he’s
>controlled. 
>
>You write that “Carto had to have interlocking company
>relationships that ensured his money was safe from
>those that love nothing better than to suck it up.”
>You go on to assert that “this is taken by Mark Weber 
>to be a sign of Carto’s corruption.” 
>
>This misrepresents what I’ve written and said on this
>matter, although I do agree that, as you suggest,
>Carto has treated all money that passed through the
>IHR, Liberty Lobby and so forth, as “his money.” 
>
>Your assertion that “fighting united” was “Willis
>Carto’s plan” is amazing, considering his decades-long
>record of bitter and litigious fights with persons or
>groups that he regards as rivals. Among those he
>has attacked over the years have been Ernst Zundel,
>Bradley Smith, William Pierce, Don Wassal, and Harvey
>Taylor. It is also worth noting that the Cartos’
>relationship with every IHR director and every IHR
>Journal editor has ended in acrimony. 
>
>For those who care to look further into all this, a
>library of information, including dozens of documents
>and voluminous court testimony, can be found on the
>“Willis Carto Information Site”:
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/lsf/index.html
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Mark 
>
>weber@ihr.org
>
>[END]
>
>
>
>Next is another revisionist who rather does not want
>to give his name, however, feels also strongly about
>this issue.
>
>[START]
>
>I say that Paul Grubach has hit the old proverbial
>nail on the head. Yes, why is it that the system
>continues to let Carto run amok amongst the
>"patriot movement", but someone like Ernst Zundel (who
>I met in Kenosha, Wisconsin back in the mid-seventies)
>is thrown out of the country on a minor immigration
>technicality?
>
>Dr. Toeben justifies Carto's "stewardship" of the
>Farrell estate by alluding to the "Leadership
>Principle" and suggesting that "morally" the IHR 
>(and by proxy, Noontide Press) somehow "belonged" to
>Willis Carto.
>
>Dr. Toeben never had to work intimately with Willis
>Carto, nor did he ever have to serve as one of Carto's
>front-men or expendable "dummy directors" (as a
>certain disgruntled former Liberty Lobby board member
>might verify).
>
>Frankly, it is clear to me that Carto does in fact
>have access to "deep pockets"--  either millions still
>hidden that truly and legally belong to the IHR,
>and/or government financing (Israeli or "American").
>
>It is a fact recognized by many who have had an arms
>length relationship with Carto and his various
>companies.  Some of whom labor yet under the ludicrous
>notion that Carto might one day reward their
>subservience by making one of them the new "keeper of
>the keys" once Carto dies.
>
>Younger people who had in fact worked closely with
>Carto at one time can verify that the man has no
>succession plan.  One such man is Chris Temple of
>MEDIA BYPASS magazine and THE NATIONAL INVESTOR
>newsletter (Websites:  www.MediaBypass.com and
>www.NationalInvestor.com.)
>
>So I think Dr. Toeben is attempting to ingratiate
>himself with Willis Carto in the hopes that perhaps
>one day his otherwise noble efforts will somehow
>be rewarded.
>
>If Dr. Toeben had the benefit of my experience with
>Carto, that of Chris Temple's and the experiences of
>so many others before us, then he might not be so
>eager to defend Willis Carto.  Because in the "best
>case" scenario he would dismiss him as an ill-mannered
>and egocentric "businessman" who happens to "believe
>as we do",  but preys on old ladies and their estates;
> or, in the "worst case" scenario, he would
>conclude as Paul Grubach has that Carto's role here is
>far more sinister.
>
>After all, our enemies have been experts in
>controlling the "loyal opposition" for centuries.  And
>what better way of MONITORING and CONTROLLING the
>"creme of the crop" than by drawing them into
>professional and quality endeavors such as TBR,
>AMERICAN FREE PRESS, the former Liberty Lobby, etc.
>
>That this "modus operandi" has worked can be proven by
>personalities such as Mel Gibson's father, the late
>"Taylor Caldwell" and Harry Von Zell, and many others
>(including John Wayne) who gave support and
>comfort to Carto's endeavors.
>
>One thing that I thought was most notable about
>Carto's conference this past weekend was Tom
>Valentine's apparent absence.  His name was
>conspicuous by its absence in the conference listing
>of speakers, though he had previously been "plugged"
>as a planned speaker.
>
>I understand that Carto and Tom Valentine have finally
>parted company.
>
>Mike Piper reputedly has had differences with his
>boss--  perhaps why he was given the "litmus test"
>task of attacking Mark Weber during the conference.
>
>Walter, I have come to trust you and your efforts. 
>Stand by your instincts when it comes to Willis Carto.
>
>That he had to read Mrs. Zundel's full-page ad last
>Sunday wasn't done out of love for Ernst or his
>efforts.  He had no choice.  Had he ignored that
>extraordinary statement and Ernst Zundel in general,
>then his "reputation" among certain revisionists would
>have been negatively impacted. By being seemingly
>magnanimous he has only bolstered his so-called image
>as demonstrated by Dr. Toeben's commentary.
>
>Thank you for your efforts.
>
>[END]
>
>
>
>Next on the same issue are our friends from France:
>
>[START]
>
>I'm sorry, Fred, but when you come to Paris soon I
>shall scold you a bit: you say that you approve Mr
>Mueller, but your letter to him is certainly not
>the kind of letter suitable to unite revisionists! It
>doesn't look like you!
>
>[END]
>
>
>
>Hey, don't expect me to make any comments yet! You've
>got to wait 'til Sunday. This is great stuff guys, it
>just drives home my point. 
>
>Now, let's hear from another guy in my hall of fame
>and great revisionist, Carlos Porter
>
>http://www.cwporter.com
>
>[START]
>
>Let me tell you the difference between us and the
>Jews. We are democrats. We bother trying to convince
>the ordindary idiot. The Jews are elitists, in fact,
>they hold many ideas similar to those of the National
>Socialists or Communists. They never bother with the
>average idiot. They go right to the top. If they don't
>like the food in a restaurant, they go to the manager,
>then, if that doesn't work, to the suppliers, the
>advertisers, bankers, etc. We waste our time out on
>the street trying to convince the people on the
>sidewalk not to go inside. The Jews never bother with
>the average person. They are dictators.
>
>CARLOS
>
>[END]
>
>
>
>And here is another response from our friends in
>France:
>
>[START]
>
>Gosh, dear Mr Mueller! What a wonderful piece! I dare
>say that I am, and have always been, an active
>warrior: one of the reasons why I didn't want to be on
>the Internet, about 10 years ago, was precisely
>because I thought that we couldn't win the revisionist
>
>struggle with people sitting in front of a computer.
>But then, Serge Thion (the aaargh website) convinced
>me that I should be on the Internet; at the time
>he was the only French revisionist on the Net and he
>beseeched me not to let him be alone. So then I did
>obey. I don't regret it today. As I already told you
>before, I am not sure that you are right in asking
>people to unite because if we unite the Jews will know
>where the target is, whereas nowadays, with
>revisionism sprouting up from everywhere, they don't
>know where to fire.
>
>But we certainly should unite and never have quarrels
>between each other. I LOVE your writings, dear friend!
>But, for goodness sake, take care of you: you're
>making me afraid because you are too good and some
>people won't like it!
>
>[END]
>
>
>
>And now let's have it from our Italian friends
>
>[START]
>
>Hello Herr Müller!
>
>Your text reads like an advert for the NOE, cultural
>association whose mission is to provide a lawful
>platform in Europe on which to build resistance to the
>hateful ideology and counter-religion of the H. Open
>to all who wish to resist.
>
>Please allow me to remind you that last year we were
>scoffed at by a certain US-based revisionist
>"institute", people with funds and high profiles whose
>support would have made a great success of our
>conference projects. Here we've got nothing in the way
>of funds, not even a website, but we have got the
>competence and the acquaintances. And legality. 
>
>Cheers, loud cheers!
>
>[END]
>
>
>
>I have received of course much more from the
>intellectual crowd. However, tomorrow we'll hear from
>my people, meaning from those who don't bear a title
>in front of their names. That includes some great
>writers, such as Gavin Oughton, Leon Burke, Stan Hess,
>etc. Stay Tuned!
>
>
>
>
>Walter F. Mueller
>"The truth is back in business"
>

------------------------

Date:       6/28/03 5:38 PM
To:         Walter Mueller <thetruthisback@yahoo.com>
From:       John Bryant
Copy:       Adelaide Institute,  Elisabeth Carto,  Mark Weber
Blind Copy: 
 Subject:    Re: Patriot Letter: Call to Action - Mark Weber chimes in - 
Revisionists respond 

Walter:

The good news is that your ideas of uniting in activism on the single most 
important issue -- Foreskinners -- is an important one, and that's why I 
posted your original email on my Daily Reads page. 

The bad news is that you are cultivating divisiveness in the very act of 
calling for unity.  Here are the particulars: 

* You say the following of me:

>John Byrant, or "The Birdman" as he calls himself, has
>posted the call for action on his web. I've been on
>his website several times and it is nothing I really
>care for, however, the big plus, he is a big freedom
>of speech supporter. He thinks that I am "no Moses to
>lead the people across the ocean", because once he
>wrote me an e-mail and I didn't respond. Huuuuh! How
>kleinkariert. 

The implication here is that I make myself out to be an idiot by saying you 
are unfit to lead because you didn't answer an email of mine.  But in fact 
I said something rather different, namely, this: 

"Your letter is provocative and I will post it on my Daily Reads page 
tomorrow. One of the big problems whites seem to have is working together, 
while Jews seem to do a much better job. I bring this up because I wrote 
you a friendly letter few weeks ago but received no response. What that 
tells me is that you are not big on social skills -- but of course, as I 
just said, you aren't alone. Which means you will probably not be the Moses 
that leads us to the Promised Land. But for all that, your letter deserves 
to be read." 

I do not know whether your rendition of what I said was an intentional 
effort to make me look like an idiot (from your remarks, you evidently find 
my website offensive, which suggests such intent) or whether it was just a 
just a misunderstanding (kindly note that I could have called you stupid, 
but did not); but should it be the latter, let me spell it out: 

A movement cannot be led by people who go around making other people -- and 
particularly the major players -- feel bad.  In fact, a movement cannot 
even EXIST if the people -- whether leaders or not -- go around making 
others feel bad.  This is a major failing of the pro-white movement -- an 
assertion which was in my original statement to you.  The point is that, 
until people start to read, mark, learn and inwardly digest Dale Carnegie's 
little book How to Win Friends and Influence People, or something 
equivalent, this movement is going nowhere.  

* Besides the spitball you launched at me, the badmouthing of Willis Carto 
is yet another case in point -- something which you permitted your 'hero' 
Mark Weber to do at length in your second communique.  But badmouthing 
Carto is not merely divisive -- it is also completely unjust.  I am not 
going to go into any of the material your 'hero' Mark discussed; rather I 
will point out three indisputable facts which make clear that Carto is 
essentially in the right. 

(1) On numerous occasions Carto published detailed damning allegations of 
the IHR people in the Spotlight, yet these allegations were NEVER answered 
by Weber or anyone else in the IHR Journal -- an organ read by many 
Spotlight subscribers.  That says to me pretty plainly that Weber et al 
COULDN'T answer the allegations, and that therefore Carto was right. 

(2) Carto created the IHR and made it into a powerhouse of revisionism.  
Morally, therefore, the Edison money was his -- and most likely legally, 
also. 

(3) Since Weber & Co's successful takeover of the IHR, this institution has 
become a joke.  This, in conjunction with the various allegations about 
Weber & Co's connections to Scientology, the Foreskinner takeover of 
Scientology, and the sudden approval of tax exemption for Scientology by a 
Jewish IRS commissioner at the time of the IHR takeover, makes it likely in 
my view that Carto was right in alleging that this takeover was an 
essentially Jewish effort to hobble and denature the  IHR.  This is not to 
say that the people who have supported the IHR takeover -- including Weber 
himself -- understand the true nature of the takeover.  Nor is it to cast 
aspersions on the character of Weber & Co's supporters, since that support 
may spring from Carto's attempt to turn the IHR Journal into a publication 
of broader scope -- what the Barnes Review is today.  (For example, 
Faurisson, Butz and other revisionist scholars were naturally upset to see 
'their' journal begin to focus on something other than what they have 
devoted an important part of their lives to.)  Nor is it to deny that Weber 
himself is a good revisionist -- he has written some excellent things which 
I have posted on my site, and his performance in the Shermer debate was 
admirable.  But the most likely explanation in my mind is that the IHR 
takeover was a Foreskinner coup.  

The bottom line on the above points is follows: Carto was right, both 
pragmatically (with the success of the Barnes Review and the collapse of 
the IHR) and morally.  To this I would add that no one has done more in 
terms of exposing Jewish misbehavior and getting this information out to 
the public than Carto.  (For those, like Weber, who claim that Carto has 
never given an account of the millions which have passed thru his hands, 
etc, I can only say this: (a) The success of his work is his 'account'; (b) 
his success is invaluable and could never have been bought; and (c) if he 
kept some money for himself, I think we can count it as money well spent.  
The situation reminds me of Lincoln's response to allegations that Grant 
was a drunk: "Well, tell me what brand he drinks and I'll send a barrel to 
each of my other generals.") We all owe Willis Carto a tremendous debt.  
This is not to say that he has not made mistakes, or sometimes behaved 
improperly himself.  But it is to say that, when it comes to the Jewish 
Question -- the issue which you say we must unite on -- then Carto comes 
out looking like the Indispensable Man.  So if you choose to badmouth him 
and make Mark Weber your 'hero', then it seems clear you are going in a 
direction exactly the opposite of which you claim to be going. 

I am going to post this on my website.  I hope you will include this letter 
in the upcoming post to your mailing list -- I'd just like to know that 
truth is back in business. 

-Birdman (www.thebirdman.org)


>> 
>> On 6/28/03 at 7:29 PM Walter Mueller wrote:
>> 
>> >Dear Fellow Patriot!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >It was an exciting day, received some great mail.
>> Stan
>> >Hess mailed me "Ingrid's ad" in the Washington
>> Times,
>> >and it looks great. But most exciting, our friends
>> in
>> >France sent me a copy of a French newspaper,
>> >mentioning the Patriot Letter. There you go, I am
>> >becoming international.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >My dear Dr. Toeben, what have you done? I am
>> >overwhelmed with responses and now, the Carto side
>> is
>> >trying to weigh in. Here is the deal. Unless the
>> Carto
>> >side is as civilized in their responses as Mark
>> Weber,
>> >I won't print it. Remember, Walter F. Mueller and
>> the
>> >Patriot Letter is NOT a democracy. I decide what's
>> >being printed and what is not. And please, don't
>> give
>> >me your phony pleads of fairness. I don't mind an
>> >occasional idiot or moron, and not even Arschloch,
>> >however, the four letter words used by Carto
>> >supporters, I refuse to print. If the brains are
>> not
>> >enough to engage in a civilized discourse, then
>> find
>> >someone else who airs your dirty laundry.
>> >
>> >And that brings me straigt to the Birdman. I think
>> I
>> >forwarded you the wrong link, here is the right one
>> >
>> >http://www.thebirdman.org
>> >
>> >He also forwarded me a response to my Patriot
>> Letter
>> >from yesterday, and I was about to forward it to
>> you,
>> >until I realized, further down, that all he was
>> trying
>> >to do was to show his support for the Carto thing.
>> >
>> >I got a lot of new subscribers to the Patriot
>> Letter -
>> >which is free - so I guess I should make some of my
>> >policies very clear: We are at war. Life is not
>> fair -
>> >get over it! And yes, I do take sides, the side of
>> my
>> >ancestry, my culture, and white people. I do not
>> >engage in racial slurs or call for violence. But I
>> am
>> >sure not going to let some of the idiots outthere
>> tell
>> >me how to run my war.
>> >
>> >I have said that before too. Unless you crawl out
>> >behind your computer screen and join me on the
>> street,
>> >you ain't got much to bargain with. I do not
>> >compromise my principles for anything. And here is
>> the
>> >simple reason why - because I am a real guy. I have
>> no
>> >bird sitting on my head, running a website, because
>> I
>> >am busy running reality.
>> >
>> >Reality is that the Jews have destroyed the very
>> >fabric of this country. They have brought us
>> >multi-culturism and they successfully have almost
>> >destroyed Western civilization. See, with me, when
>> I
>> >turn off my computer, it's fighting the real enemy
>> of
>> >flesh and blood and two legs and lots of money. So,
>> >Mr. Birdman, when you can show me that your life
>> has
>> >been destroyed, your family has been threatened and
>> >your home has been set on fire, then you can tell
>> me
>> >what to do. For now, you are just one of those who
>> >runs a website and once the Jews turn that off, all
>> >you have left is your little birds.
>> >
>> >That's for my rave. I just can't stand people who
>> have
>> >the guts to demand something they are in no
>> position
>> >to ask for.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Here is a response from the father of revisionism,
>> >Professor Faurrison, and it is quite funny:
>> >
>> >[START]
>> >
>> >Dear Fredrick,
>> >
>> >Your letter to Walter Mueller is so remarkably bad
>> and
>> >wrong that I have only one favor to ask you:
>> please,
>> >let me know what you were smoking while writing
>> that
>> >stuff.
>> >
>> >R. Faurisson
>> >
>> >[END]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Now back to our discussion. I have quite a nice
>> >collection (put to my care by Harvey Taylor) of the
>> >old Liberty Bell. It was intereting for me to see
>> all
>> >the greats writing for it when they weren't popular
>> >yet. One of them was Professor Revilo P. Oliver.
>> Great
>> >columns, great opinions, and all around a great
>> mind.
>> >
>> >Professor Oliver, before he died, wrote a letter to
>> >Colonel Dall, on Willis Carto. Now here is what
>> shows
>> >you just what a brilliant man Oliver was. He didn't
>> >want Colonel Dall to publish this letter and
>> stamped
>> >it confidential.
>> >
>> >The original of this document you will find below
>> is
>> >said to be held in the special collection session
>> of
>> >the Knight Library at the University of Oregon.
>> >
>> >This letter is probably the most credible and
>> >revealing piece ever done on Willis Carto. I wonder
>> if
>> >the Carto side will call Professor Oliver also a
>> >scumbag, as they did with Mark Weber.  Please
>> enjoy:
>> >
>> >[START]
>> >
>> >What Others Have Said about Willis Carto
>> >
>> >Revilo Oliver on Willis Carto
>> >
>> >The brilliant conservative writer Revilo Oliver
>> wrote
>> >this letter to Colonel Dall, son-in-law of Franklin
>> >Delano Roosevelt, a man who was once connected with
>> >Willis Carto's Liberty Lobby. Although Oliver
>> himself
>> >stamped this correspondence "CONFIDENTIAL," he
>> >distributed it to others besides Colonel Dall. Both
>> >men have since passed away.
>> >
>> >It is interesting to note that Carto in July 1999,
>> >somehow convinced Dall's widow, Katherine Dall, to
>> >front for Liberty Lobby, and for yet another Carto
>> >group, the new Friends of Liberty Lobby. Mrs. Dall
>> >also gave Carto $300,000! It will be interesting to
>> >see if any of this money is ever seen or heard of
>> >again.
>> >
>> >The original of this document is said to be held in
>> >the Special Collections section of the Knight
>> Library,
>> >at the University of Oregon.
>> >
>> >Note especially the highlighted portions.
>> >
>> >Revilo Pendleton Oliver
>> >701 Ohio Street
>> >Urbana, Illinois
>> >17 December 1970
>> >
>> >Dear Colonel Dall:
>> >
>> >As I told you in the course of our recent
>> conversation
>> >by telephone, I have no interest whatsoever in
>> coming
>> >to Washington to participate in a conference about
>> the
>> >conduct of Willis Carto. My regard for you,
>> however,
>> >is such that I shall take time that I can ill
>> afford
>> >to state as concisely and objectively as I can the
>> >extent to which I have been involved in the
>> activities
>> >of that individual.
>> >
>> >This letter is for your information. I shall give
>> it
>> >no circulation, except that I shall send copies
>> marked
>> >"confidential" to the other members of the Advisory
>> >Board of the National Youth Alliance for their
>> >information, since they are nearly concerned in the
>> >transactions I shall summarize.
>> >
>> >I first encountered Carto, as I remember, in 1956
>> or
>> >early in 1957 at some patriotic meeting at which he
>> >appeared as an associate, at least behind the
>> scenes,
>> >of,William Stevenson, the editor of a well-written
>> but
>> >short lived periodical called The Virginian. There
>> was
>> >something about Carto's personality and manners
>> that I
>> >found distasteful and even repellent, but I am, of
>> >course, aware that no political effort can be based
>> on
>> >personal likes and dislikes, and that patriotic
>> >activity necessarily involves cooperation with many
>> >persons whom one would not wish to have as personal
>> >friends. I therefore showed Carto every courtesy,
>> >discussed matters of common interest with him when
>> >occasion offered, and gave him the best advice that
>> I
>> >could whenever he asked for it. I found,
>> furthermore,
>> >that he enjoyed the confidence of men whom I
>> respected
>> >highly, and that he was receiving personally
>> financial
>> >support from men of means whose patriotic purposes
>> I
>> >could not doubt.
>> >
>> >I accordingly observed Carto's various operations
>> >sympathetically, but avoided any direct association
>> >with him or his undertakings until after the
>> national
>> >elections in 1968. (I must add that when the late
>> >Admiral Freeman asked me to participate in an
>> >organization to be called Americans for National
>> >Security, I was not aware that it was going to
>> become
>> >just another of Carto's devices for collecting
>> money.)
>> >
>> >In November 1968 Carto's record included much to
>> his
>> >credit, notably:
>> >
>> >(1) He had published a small periodical, Right,
>> that
>> >had been a distinct contribution to the American
>> >cause, and had founded Western Destiny, a
>> periodical
>> >that had a great potentiality and could, I believe,
>> >have exerted a wide influence had it not been
>> >prematurely abandoned, presumably because it was
>> >operating at a deficit.
>> >
>> >(2) He had procured (with the help of a critique
>> that
>> >I wrote for that purpose) a subvention for a
>> >handsomely printed edition of a very rare and
>> >important historical study, Imperium. (I neglected,
>> >unfortunately, to ascertain whether Carto realized
>> a
>> >substantial profit on that transaction.)
>> >
>> >(3) I shall advert to the defects of Imperium
>> later,
>> >but Carto in conversations with me had from the
>> first
>> >insisted that the general approach represented by
>> >Imperium. represented not only his own deepest
>> >convictions, but also the only means of rallying
>> >support for a successful American effort. He had
>> >maintained this at a time when I believed that
>> there
>> >were still alternatives, so that I had to credit
>> him
>> >with superior foresight.
>> >
>> >(4) He had gone to Belmont on a quite handsome
>> salary
>> >to plan a "youth movement" that would be a Birch
>> >subsidiary and as a potential successor to titular
>> >headship of the Birch business, and he had left
>> that
>> >post in circumstances which suggest that he may
>> have
>> >penetrated the secret objectives of Robert the
>> Welcher
>> >long before I had any suspicion of the cunning
>> little
>> >man's duplicity.
>> >
>> >(5) He was violently and viciously denounced by the
>> >Jews, both openly and through various mouthpieces,
>> >such as the New York Times, Morris Bealle, and
>> Robert
>> >the Welcher. (I need not remark that this datum is
>> of
>> >merely provisional value, for, as everyone has
>> known
>> >since the days of Sinon, the best way to accredit a
>> >secret agent to the enemy whom he is to betray is
>> to
>> >denounce him and appear .bent on his destruction.)
>> >
>> >(6) He had, on my recommendation, salvaged the
>> >American Mercury, and he had founded the Washington
>> >Observer, which utilizes the talents and contacts
>> of
>> >one of the last and best newsmen in the country.
>> These
>> >publications are so useful to our cause that no
>> >American would wish to see them disappear, however
>> >despicable the character of the publisher.
>> >
>> >(7) He founded, on the basis of mailing lists
>> stolen
>> >from Robert the Welcher, Liberty Lobby, which
>> performs
>> >a very useful service, although the purposes
>> professed
>> >when it was founded have now become clearly
>> >unrealizable. Quite aside from my regard for the
>> Lobby
>> >when you became associated with it, I do not want
>> to
>> >see it collapse.
>> >
>> >Such were, in my estimation, Carto's credentials
>> when,
>> >after the election in 1968, he proposed a plan to
>> >salvage the membership of the Youth for Wallace
>> group,
>> >which he claimed to have subsidized to the extent
>> of
>> >$50,000 in cash in a few months, and to found a
>> >national youth movement of the kind that I had long
>> >regarded as an indispensable part of any effective
>> >effort to preserve our nation, and had come to
>> regard
>> >as the only remaining means of recapturing the
>> United
>> >States. I therefore listened to Carto, but refused,
>> as
>> >politely as I could, to have anything to do with
>> the
>> >first organization of the National Youth Alliance,
>> >because I was not convinced of his bona fides, in
>> >spite of the record I have summarized above.
>> >
>> >Later, however, and primarily because of my
>> confidence
>> >in Mr. Louis Byers, I did consent to endorse the
>> >National Youth Alliance on three explicitly stated
>> >conditions, viz.:
>> >
>> >1. The complete elimination of Carto's unsavory and
>> >scabrous playmates, particularly Acord, Paulson,
>> and
>> >Baker.
>> >
>> >2. Placing Mr. Byers in complete charge of the
>> >organization, with absolute authority over all
>> >operations and transactions.
>> >
>> >3. The supply by Carto of a subsidy of at least
>> >$50,000 per year, over and above all income that
>> the
>> >N.Y.A. might derive from members and sponsors, for
>> a
>> >minimum of two years. (No one in his right mind and
>> >with any experience in such matters could have
>> >imagined that a national organization could
>> >conceivably be founded with a smaller investment,
>> and
>> >it was obvious that an estimate of $50,000 per year
>> >was extremely optimistic.)
>> >
>> >In deciding to accept Carto's pledge of support, I
>> >believed that I could trust, if not the man
>> himself,
>> >at least his sense of self-interest. Quite apart
>> from
>> >the fact that the National Youth Alliance was to be
>> >the realization of a project that Carto had for a
>> >decade consistently described as nearest to his
>> heart,
>> >I reasoned that
>> >
>> >(1) The weight of the evidence was strongly against
>> >the possibility that Carto might be a secret agent
>> of
>> >the enemy; and
>> >
>> >(2) He intended to have a future in patriotic
>> activity
>> >in the United States. (He realized, of course, that
>> >the future of his major project, Liberty Lobby, was
>> >limited, for however valuable the services that it
>> >incidentally rendered might be, its support would
>> >inevitably decline sharply as Americans came to
>> >realize that they cannot in any way influence on
>> vital
>> >matters the fuglemen who form the effective
>> majority
>> >in Congress, and that the few Americans in that
>> body,
>> >notably the admirable Mr. Rarick, are tolerated
>> merely
>> >to create the impression and the delusive hope that
>> it
>> >might be possible to elect a large number of men
>> like
>> >them. The N.Y.A., if now supported by Carto, and if
>> it
>> >became successful and well-known, would therefore
>> >become the most feasible means for Carto to
>> continue
>> >his own career by either redirecting Liberty Lobby
>> or
>> >by replacing it.)
>> >
>> >Obviously, I was wrong about at least one of these
>> two
>> >premises.
>> >
>> >It was on the basis of this miscalculation that I
>> >decided to support the National Youth Alliance,
>> which
>> >I then believed to be, and now believe to have
>> been,
>> >potentially the American people's last chance to
>> >regain possession of.the United States. Soon after
>> I
>> >committed myself, there were various small
>> indications
>> >that Carto was playing a double game, but,
>> disturbing
>> >as they were, I could not abandon what I believed
>> to
>> >be our last hope or Mr. Byers, who had committed
>> >himself to the undertaking in part, at least, on
>> the
>> >strength of my promised support.
>> >
>> >Mr. Byers was placed in a very difficult position.
>> >Believing Carto to be what he pretended to be, Mr.
>> >Byers felt loyalty to him as sponsor of the N.Y.A.
>> and
>> >respect for his presumably great expertise in
>> >patriotic activity. I am grateful to him for having
>> >twice refused to forge my name to public letters,
>> as
>> >Carto urged and demanded.
>> >
>> >As we all know, Carto not only welched on his
>> pledge
>> >to provide the minimum financial support, but
>> >reiterated to Mr. Byers his promises to provide it,
>> >giving various highly imaginative, although
>> >decreasingly plausible, explanations of the delay;
>> he
>> >thus deliberately and maliciously encouraged Mr.
>> Byers
>> >to continue some office operations on credit and to
>> >assume obligations that Carto knew could not be
>> met,
>> >because he, Carto, was going to renege when the
>> >organization had become hopelessly insolvent.
>> >
>> >Since Carto is not an imbecile mentally, it is
>> obvious
>> >that he intentionally and malevolently forced the
>> >National Youth Alliance, which was unique among
>> >organizations on our side in that it was formed in
>> >time to take advantage of coming events, to miss
>> the
>> >socially and psychologically golden opportunity in
>> >anticipation of which it had been founded and which
>> >did in fact come with the outbreaks in numerous
>> >colleges during the academic year that began in
>> >September 1969.
>> >
>> >Let me emphasize that point: the N.Y.A. was unique
>> >among patriotic organizations because it was
>> designed
>> >to meet coming events rather than deplore what had
>> >already happened and make futile talk about undoing
>> >events that by their very nature are irreversible.
>> >
>> >The N.Y.A. was unique, also, because it could offer
>> >something new and therefore credible instead of
>> >sterile reiterations of sentiments and principles
>> >that, however delectable to those who still
>> believed
>> >in them, had been effectively discredited by
>> failure.
>> >
>> >As I stated in print years ago, I am aware that
>> >Imperium, which was to be the basic doctrine of the
>> >N.Y.A., was not a perfect work because (1) it
>> >contained errors of historical fact that made it
>> >vulnerable to criticism, although the errors were
>> >merely incidental and did not affect its major
>> thesis;
>> >(2) contained serious biological errors because
>> Yockey
>> >relied on Spengler, who, in turn, relied partly on
>> >forged data so concocted by our enemies as to
>> appear
>> >scientific, and partly on obsolete theories; (3)
>> was
>> >written from a European, rather than an American,
>> >point of view; and (4) contained frequent
>> references
>> >to, and projections from, a situation that was
>> >contemporary when Yockey wrote but was already more
>> >than two decades in the past. But despite these
>> >defects, Imperium was by far the best doctrine that
>> >was available. It was basically sound, and some of
>> the
>> >shortcomings had been corrected in the preface that
>> >Carto wrote on the basis of my critique and
>> >suggestions. It was not perfect, but rational men
>> use
>> >the weapons that are available now. Armies today
>> are
>> >equipped with carbines, which, as everyone knows,
>> are
>> >far inferior to the laser-guns that somebody really
>> >ought to have invented.
>> >
>> >The N.Y.A., therefore, was our side's first -- and
>> may
>> >prove to have been our side's last opportunity to
>> >recruit support outside the relatively small and
>> >closed circle of aging patriots, most of them left
>> >from the 1930s -- a group that is being constantly
>> >diminished by death and despair.
>> >
>> >Carto's current and strange agitation about
>> >mailing-lists is significant. I know than such
>> talk,
>> >coming from a person who has in the past boasted of
>> >his dexterity in filching other people's
>> >mailing-lists, and who, according to what I have
>> been
>> >told by other patriotic leaders whose word I have
>> no
>> >reason to doubt, is now trying to rent his "prime
>> >list" and others secretly for cash in advance --
>> such
>> >talk, I say, seems to be mere buffoonery. But it is
>> >more than a tirade by Pantalone: it is a confession
>> --
>> >a most indiscreet confession -- of the bankruptcy
>> of
>> >the "conservative" movement.
>> >
>> >What makes the mailing-lists such business assets
>> is
>> >the fact, admitted by implication, that the
>> computers
>> >of the mail-order houses in Washington now have on
>> >their tapes the names and addresses of at least 90%
>> of
>> >all the people in American society
>> >
>> >who are potential customers for patriotic pep-talks
>> >and jeremiads. These customers are the "old
>> >faithfuls," and experience has shown, I am sure,
>> that
>> >they respond as well to the cynically contrived
>> >rhetoric of the professional swindlers (most of
>> whom,
>> >it is interesting to note, are or perhaps were
>> Carto's
>> >dearest playmates) as to the most earnest
>> >solicitations from you and from others who do have
>> a
>> >serious purpose. But these persons form a virtually
>> >closed market. My guess is that whenever Carto
>> >manages.to get his hands on a competitor's list, he
>> >finds that more than half of the names on it merely
>> >duplicate names on lists that he has already
>> acquired.
>> >I imagine that every time he sets up a front for
>> >another hit-and-run operation with his sucker-list,
>> he
>> >hopes not only to give the cows an extra milking
>> but
>> >to acquire some new ones with a new twist in the
>> >rhetoric (e.g., as in the suddenly resurrected
>> >American Colonization Society, which as suddenly
>> >returned to its century-hallowed tomb after the
>> pitch
>> >was made); and I also imagine that the yield of
>> fresh
>> >prospects was very small.
>> >
>> >The market is not only limited, but it is rapidly
>> >diminishing, as the "old faithful" die, retire on
>> >decreased incomes, become weary of giving futilely,
>> or
>> >reasonably conclude from the number of exposed
>> >pseudo-patriotic swindles that all patriotic
>> >organizations are merely confidence-games. (They
>> have
>> >no psychic powers, you know, that would enable them
>> to
>> >discriminate between mere confidence-men and men
>> who
>> >were sincerely confident that they could accomplish
>> >the impossible.) The dwindling herd that will give
>> >milk to restore what is past and gone is,
>> furthermore,
>> >developing sore udders from too frequent milking,
>> as
>> >is obvious from the diminishing net yield of each
>> new
>> >solicitation. And, what is more, I suspect that the
>> >highest yield is always obtained by the frauds,
>> >because the writing of pitch-letters is a technique
>> >closely akin to propaganda, and, as everyone who
>> knows
>> >anything of that field regards as axiomatic,
>> >first-class propaganda can be produced only by
>> >technicians who believe no word of it.
>> >
>> >I know that there still is in the nation a
>> >considerable number of persons, not yet
>> impoverished,
>> >who sincerely and ardently want to avert the
>> disaster
>> >that is imminent. Now it so happens that I can
>> write a
>> >good Ciceronian Latin, but if I proposed to those
>> >persons to write a syntactically and rhetorically
>> >perfect exposition of their beliefs in Latin, they
>> >would certainly dismiss the project as chimerical
>> for
>> >the obvious reason that it could not influence any
>> >considerable part of the public that we need to
>> reach,
>> >and they would not change their minds, even if I
>> >convinced them that Latin is a beautiful language,
>> >that it is in many ways superior to English, that
>> >everyone ought to read it with ease, that not long
>> ago
>> >all educated men did read it with ease, and that
>> (as I
>> >could prove from good sources) so few now read it
>> with
>> >ease because of the success of what the North
>> American
>> >Review a century ago rightly called "the insane
>> >conspiracy against the learned languages." But the
>> >very persons who can see at once that exhortations
>> in
>> >Latin are not now feasible seem incapable of
>> >perceiving the futility of exhortations in terms
>> that
>> >are equally obsolete and with arguments that would
>> >have been cogent a century ago but are now
>> >unintelligible to most Americans. It is
>> undoubtedly.
>> >deplorable, lamentable, horrible that public
>> schools
>> >were permitted to function in the United States as
>> the
>> >instruments of our enemies for the past fifty years
>> >and more, and with ever increasing efficiency, but
>> it
>> >is an unalterable and irreversible fact that the
>> >public schools have functioned and have done their
>> >work very well. That is a fact that anyone can
>> verify
>> >in five minutes by glancing at a newspaper or
>> watching
>> >the shadows in a boob-tube -- or by inducing almost
>> >any American business or professional man under
>> sixty
>> >to express a candid opinion. But the earnest
>> patriots
>> >with pathetic nostalgia go on exhorting in a dead
>> >language remembered from their now remote youth.
>> >Theirs are beautiful sentiments: natura autem
>> generis
>> >humani tardiora quam mala semper sunt remedia, et
>> ut
>> >corpora nostra lente augescunt, cito extinguuntur,
>> sic
>> >ingenia studiaque oppresseris facilius quam
>> revocaris.
>> >No one can deny that: it is self-evident.
>> >
>> >I have every sympathy and respect for the
>> antiquarian
>> >societies that justly praise and admire the
>> Republic
>> >of 1850 or 1810, and I certainly do not begrudge
>> their
>> >members the inspiration they derive from their
>> >Jacobite loyalties, which are in every way
>> admirable.
>> >I sincerely honor the gentlemen who wear a white
>> rose
>> >in their buttonhole on the thirtieth of January,
>> for
>> >such loyalty to romantic ideals is a characteristic
>> >innate in our race.
>> >
>> >If the members of patriotic societies seriously
>> intend
>> >to deflect the course of events and to have a
>> country
>> >that they can leave to their progeny, they must by
>> >this time have learned that they cannot do it by
>> >talking to themselves and crying "amen!" at prayer
>> >meetings: they will have to act intelligently. And,
>> so
>> >far as anyone can now foresee, the time in which
>> any
>> >action will be possible is very short.
>> >
>> >If the "conservatives" really have the money to buy
>> at
>> >once all the newspapers and television networks in
>> the
>> >country and to hire a corps of trained
>> propagandists
>> >to operate them-- or if they can bribe a majority
>> in
>> >Congress and keep them bribed for four or five
>> years
>> >or if they can muster and equip at least three
>> >divisions of paratroopers for a coup d'etat -- I am
>> >delighted to hear it and I remind them that they
>> must
>> >act at once -- tomorrow may be too late. If,
>> however,
>> >they cannot afford these obvious expedients, they
>> had
>> >better inquire what measures are still within their
>> >power and they had better stop daydreaming long
>> enough
>> >to look at present realities and to learn at least
>> a
>> >few of the most elementary facts about the nature
>> and
>> >formation of what is called "public opinion."
>> >
>> >The National Youth Alliance was a means of action
>> >within the power of the little circle of Americans
>> who
>> >are so busy professing alarm. It was a way in which
>> >they could, for the first time, mobilize new
>> recruits
>> >and set in motion forces that would have endangered
>> >the enemy's position. How successful it would have
>> >been in the long run, only the future could have
>> told,
>> >but the N.Y.A. was at least a rational plan.
>> >
>> >I have not rehearsed these obvious considerations
>> to
>> >explain why I took a chance in relying on Carto's
>> >self-interest, but to make specific what Carto knew
>> >and professed to believe at that time. It is, in
>> >short, what he knowingly betrayed.
>> >
>> >On 1 March 1970, when I still thought that there
>> might
>> >be some spark of decency or prudence in Carto, I
>> wrote
>> >him a letter in which I indicated, as politely as I
>> >could, that the whole responsibility for the
>> failure
>> >would rest on him, and I asked, in a way that gave
>> him
>> >a way to save face if he belatedly repented,
>> whether
>> >he had made in good faith the pledges of financial
>> >support of the N.Y.A. that had induced me to
>> >participate in the organization. Carto, of course,
>> >made no reply.
>> >
>> >It is now clear to me, naturally, that Carto saw in
>> >the N.Y.A. only an opportunity for another
>> hit-and-run
>> >operation on his sucker list, in which he could use
>> me
>> >as his cat's-paw and make Mr. Byers his accomplice.
>> >With the good names and unblemished reputations of
>> the
>> >members of the Advisory Board as a screen behind
>> which
>> >he could work, and my writing as a fresh piece of
>> >sucker-bait, he would have had no difficulty in
>> giving
>> >his cows several good milkings rich in cream, for
>> the
>> >only expense, of course, would have been rent of
>> the
>> >office for a few months and printing and postage
>> for
>> >fraudulent solicitations, and then (as I finally
>> >discovered he had arranged at the very first) the
>> >N.Y.A. would disappear in bankruptcy, with the
>> further
>> >profit that it would have been used to defraud his
>> >creditors of some $30,000+ of accounts that he
>> >transferred to the N.Y.A., and its name would have
>> >been used for fake entries to cover up shortages of
>> at
>> >least $100,000 on the books of his various
>> operations.
>> >
>> >One can understand how irate and enraged Carto must
>> >have been when he discovered that, for reasons that
>> >may have been incomprehensible to him, Mr. Byers
>> was
>> >unwilling to cooperate in forgery and theft.
>> >
>> >On 1 July 1970, the Advisory Board of the National
>> >Youth Alliance met and unanimously advised Mr.
>> Byers
>> >to refuse a sheaf of fake notes falsely
>> acknowledging
>> >receipt of some $26,000+ from a mysterious
>> "Emergency
>> >Committee" of which no one had ever heard and of
>> other
>> >large sums from other subsidiaries and fronts in
>> >Carto's tangled web of promotions -- all notes that
>> >Carto claimed he needed in order to deceive his
>> >bookkeepers. In making this recommendation,
>> however,
>> >we did not reckon with foresight and cunning beyond
>> >that of most confidence men.
>> >
>> >Carto's contribution to N.Y.A. had been the
>> services
>> >of the staff of Liberty Lobby to keep the books and
>> >handle the bank accounts, including both deposits
>> and
>> >cheques -- and, I remark incidentally, it will be
>> very
>> >interesting to see what will be shown by the audit
>> >that is now probably inevitable. This arrangement,
>> at
>> >least, made it possible for Carto to set a trap for
>> >Mr. Byers by issuing fake withholding certificates
>> for
>> >the N.Y.A.'s small payroll and secretly failed to
>> make
>> >the indicated payments to the Federal government.
>> >Since Mr. Byers was officially the director of the
>> >N.Y.A. and therefore legally responsible, Carto
>> thus
>> >cleverly and secretly made Mr. Byres legally liable
>> to
>> >fine and imprisonment. Thus Carto, by disclosing
>> his
>> >own dishonesty and threatening to have Mr.Byers
>> >denounced to the Federal authorities and punished
>> for
>> >Carto's defalcations, was able to blackmail Mr.
>> Byers
>> >into signing the fraudulent notes to cover up, at
>> >least from the perfunctory glances of a routine
>> >accountant, the disappearance of large sums of
>> money
>> >for which he was unable or unwilling to account.
>> >
>> >Passing over other tricks which are trivial in
>> >comparison, I note, as evidence of Carto's
>> remarkable
>> >abilities, that after the successful blackmail.
>> >operation he cleverly paid only a part of what was
>> due
>> >the Federal government, and finally, as part of a
>> >settlement at which you were present, gave Mr.
>> Byers
>> >the money needed to pay the remaining arrears to
>> the
>> >Federal government, thus inducing the unsuspecting
>> Mr.
>> >Byers to sign a release which, as Carto well knew
>> but
>> >Mr. Byers did not, would leave him personally
>> liable
>> >for the large fine that would be assessed as a
>> penalty
>> >for Carto's delinquency.
>> >
>> >I note further that Carto, after solemnly pledging
>> >himself and his associates not to defame Mr. Byers,
>> >almost immediately had published an infamous libel,
>> >which he had prepared in advance of signing the
>> >pledge, in the malodorous pseudo-American sheet,
>> >Statecraft, established and operated by the scurvy
>> >crew that he tried to introduce into the National
>> >Youth Alliance at the beginning, doubtless as
>> >collaborators. I know the adage that politics make
>> >strange bed-fellows, but I am not sure that that is
>> an
>> >entirely adequate explanation of an attachment so
>> >persistent, despite real or simulated spats, that
>> it
>> >almost presupposes the kind of intimate accord that
>> >comes only from common tastes and a common
>> morality.
>> >At all events, Carto is known to have financed
>> >Statecraft in the past, secretly and probably with
>> >money extracted from his sucker-lists by means of
>> >artfully frantic pleas for help to save the nation,
>> >and it is only too likely that he used money from
>> the
>> >same source to pay for the printing and
>> distribution
>> >of the defamatory sheet, and for the creation of a
>> >counterfeit "N.Y.A.," for which he cleverly created
>> a
>> >pretext at the very time that, to obtain my
>> >sponsorship, he had to separate Acord & Co. from
>> the
>> >operation. That is evidence of great foresight, and
>> >one must credit Carto with a certain kind of talent
>> >amounting almost to genius.
>> >
>> >I do not presume to divine Carto's motives. He
>> appears
>> >to be pursuing Mr. Byers with a kind of vindictive
>> >hysteria that seems odd in a person presumably not
>> >equipped with an uterus, but that may be part of
>> some
>> >design too subtle and devious to be discerned at
>> >present by less ophidian intellects. So far as I
>> can
>> >see, the most favorable interpretation of Carto's
>> >career suggests that a year or two hence there will
>> >appear in Switzerland a yet young individual,
>> perhaps
>> >calling himself Wilifred Carter or something like
>> >that, who will settle down to living comfortably on
>> >his hard-earned Swiss bank accounts, and will
>> chuckle
>> >as he, from a safe distance, watches the American
>> >suckers get what is coming to them. On any other
>> >explanation that I can think of, he is a fool as
>> well
>> >as a knave. [emphasis added]
>> >
>> >It is a waste of time to argue over spilled milk.
>> The
>> >present situation is that Carto has, in all
>> >probability,
>> >
>> >(1) destroyed the National Youth Alliance. Although
>> I
>> >do not wish to discourage those who are making a
>> >desperate effort to carry on, it is likely that
>> >Carto's counterfeit will create such utter
>> confusion
>> >as will make all efforts futile; at best, the
>> N.Y.A.
>> >will probably survive only as a small and
>> struggling
>> >organization with no opportunity to realize its
>> >original potential unless some fresh opportunity
>> >should be provided by events that cannot now be
>> >foreseen.
>> >
>> >(2) prematurely destroyed Liberty Lobby. If the
>> >Federal government is really pressing the claim for
>> >income tax described in your recent letter, it
>> seems
>> >to me a virtual certainty that nothing that can now
>> be
>> >done to the books of the Lobby and the holding
>> >companies could successfully conceal the fake
>> entries
>> >concerning the N.Y.A., and there may be similar
>> >entries involving some of the many other fronts.
>> Even
>> >so relatively innocuous a ploy as the great
>> "mortgage
>> >crisis," which, I was told, brought in considerably
>> >more than enough money to enable Carto to buy the
>> >building from himself and then lease it to Liberty
>> >Lobby at a greatly increased rental, must have left
>> a
>> >spoor on the books, and that one detail alone, if
>> made
>> >public at a trial or otherwise, would mean the end
>> of
>> >Liberty Lobby -- and probably the end of all
>> patriotic
>> >solicitations by mail.
>> >
>> >(I do not mean to sound alarmist, but the claim
>> >described in the current appeal letter must mean
>> that
>> >the Infernal Revenue Service has some evidence by
>> >which it hopes to show that the proprietor of
>> Liberty
>> >Lobby realized in 1966 and 1967 together a net
>> profit
>> >of $258,010.00 (less adjustment for surtax), and
>> that
>> >means that even if there were no political animus
>> >involved, they will put their shrewdest auditors to
>> >work on the accounts, and such men are unlikely to
>> >overlook any lead. I add, for what it may be worth,
>> >that an acquaintance of mine who was recently in
>> >Washington picked up in Congressional circles a
>> rumor
>> >that one of Carto's bookkeepers has been "singing"
>> (if
>> >I may quote the Washingtonian argot) to the F.B.I.
>> and
>> >I.R.S. Of course, there is no way of knowing how
>> much
>> >weight, if any, one should attach to such rumors.)
>> >
>> >I have written this letter to state the situation
>> as I
>> >see it for your information and for whatever help
>> it
>> >may be to you. I need not say that it implies no
>> >criticism of you, for whom I have only the kindest
>> >feelings. And, obviously, I do not presume to
>> advise
>> >you.
>> >
>> >I have no desire to take any kind of vengeance on
>> >Carto or to hasten the retribution that he has
>> >probably brought inescapably on himself. What he
>> has
>> >done cannot be undone. I naturally resent his
>> effort
>> >to use me as a patsy in his scheme, and I feel a
>> >certain shudder of loathing whenever I remember how
>> >hard he tried to induce me to become the
>> "President"
>> >or the "Chairman" of the N.Y.A. as he intended it
>> to
>> >be, but that is all. There are many bigger
>> >swamp-adders in the mephitic slough by the Potomac,
>> >and while Carto may take pride in thinking himself
>> the
>> >most venomous of his size, my own concern is to
>> avoid
>> >further contact with a species that I do not have
>> the
>> >stomach to contemplate without nausea. [emphasis
>> >added]
>> >
>> >Let me repeat that I do not wish to see Carto
>> exposed.
>> >The American Mercury, the Washington Observer, and
>> >Liberty Lobby, so far as I can see, all make
>> distinct
>> >and valuable contributions to the American cause,
>> >which may not be entirely hopeless, and so, in my
>> >estimation, every additional month that they
>> continue
>> >to exist is a gain for us. That is why I am asking
>> my
>> >fellow members of the Advisory Board of the
>> National
>> >Youth Alliance to regard as strictly confidential
>> the
>> >copies of this letter that I must send them for
>> their
>> >own information.
>> >
>> >That I have taken the time now, when I am
>> desperately
>> >pressed for time to discharge long-standing
>> >commitments in my own work, to write this long
>> letter
>> >to you should be sufficient proof of my personal
>> >regard for you.
>> >
>> >Please remember us cordially to Mrs. Dall.
>> >
>> >With best wishes,
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >
>> >/s/ Revilo P. Oliver
>> >
>> >[END]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >And another one that admires Mark Weber.
>> >
>> >[START]
>> >
>> >Dear Walter,
>> >
>> >Allow me to thank you for posting Mark Weber's
>> >articulate, informed, and intelligent response
>> >regarding the IHR.  I consider Mark to be one of
>> the
>> >brightest and most capable historians to articulate
>> >revisionist viewpoints and present them in a clear
>> >manner which even the semi-educated can grasp (his
>> >several IHR pamphlets being an excellent example). 
>> In
>> >addition, his classic debate with Shermer is a
>> model
>> >of dignified slaughter of a foolish opponent.  Mark
>> >has always been a gentleman in my estimation and
>> does
>> >not deserve the insulting slurs from some in the
>> >revisionist community (i.e., that he belongs to the
>> >Mossad--sure, and Bush is an intellectual, I
>> suppose).
>> > I truly hope that Mark receives the support which
>> he
>> >has earned in so many ways over the years.  He is a
>> >leader whose reputation has been won through hard
>> work
>> >and sacrifice.
>> >
>> >Best regards
>> >
>> >[END]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >I will continue tomorrow with some more responses,
>> see
>> >how that goes, and then I might have to do my
>> comments
>> >and analysis on Monday.  Here is a little clue:
>> This
>> >was a call to action - unity, etc. Check out what I
>> >got!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Walter F. Mueller
>> >"The truth is back in business"
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