Vexillography and Heraldry Thread
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Post flags you like. Flags of nations, cities, provinces, and states. Alternate flags, proposed flags, or even ancient flags are weldome. If you post fictional flags that you've made or have found make sure to explain the meaning or significance of its symbolism. 

To start things off here is one of the earliest flags of Ireland; The Golden gaelic Harp wity silver strings on a tartan field. It was used during the period of home rule under The Irish Catholic Confederation from 1642-1652. 


[Image: Green-harp-flag-of-Ireland-svg.png]

Here is an alternate version of the flag 

[Image: Flag-of-Leinster-bright-svg.png]


Here's also the official seal of Ireland from that time period.


[Image: Colorized-Confederate-Ireland-Seal.png]
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There's been a trend in England since the millennium (maybe partially fuelled by Whites reacting to the Great Replacement and a loss of culture) of celebrating counties with their own flag, based on heritage and history.

Many counties and areas now have distinct flags. IMO most are good. I don't think ZOG understands yet that these flags encourage ethno nationalism (not the civic nationalist "Yorkshiremen can be any colour or religion" shit) --

East Riding of Yorkshire (designed 2013) --

[Image: 1-East-R-o-Y.png]

Quote:The East Riding Flag is a community flag proclaiming the [area's] unique identity ...

The white rose appears in East Riding style (upside down from the usual Yorkshire rose). The field of blue and green represents the area’s maritime and agricultural links ...
https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/flags/y...ding-flag/

West Riding of Yorkshire (designed 2013) --

[Image: 2-West-R-o-Y.png]
Quote:The West Riding Flag ... proclaiming the unique identity of this historic riding of Yorkshire.

The flag shows the cross of St George, the symbol of England, represented as a Scandinavian cross. This reflects Yorkshire’s Anglo-Scandinavian heritage, as the county was once settled and ruled by Norwegians and Danes. It also focuses attention on the hoist, or westernmost, side.

In the centre of the cross is the traditional white rose of Yorkshire, used since the fourteenth century. It appears against a blazing sun, a heraldic combination known as ‘rose-en-soleil’ ...
https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/flags/y...ding-flag/

North Riding of Yorkshire (designed 2013) --

[Image: 3-North-R-o-Y.png]

Quote:The North Riding Flag is a community flag proclaiming the unique identity of this historic riding of Yorkshire.

A yellow-edged blue cross recalls the pattern of the arms borne by the North Riding Council ... It also evokes the arms (yellow stars on blue) attributed Saint Wilfrid, an important figure in the region’s early history ...

Green represents the wide expanse of the famed North Yorkshire Moors National Park. Blue and yellow reflect the North Sea coastline and rivers like the Swale, Tees and Esk. The rose represents Yorkshire ...
https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/flags/y...ding-flag/
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The Swastika is the symbol used by the ancient ice age civilization whose refugees shared technology and culture around the world after the cataclysm of the Younger Dryas.

It was later used by the world war 2 era Germans to symbolize the connection between themselves and those ancient peoples.

In a way, we are all refugees of the cataclysm of "The Jewish Century", and the Swastika temporarily symbolizes the loss of the war that allowed that disaster to unfold completely.


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Some say the Swastika represents the four ages of man. I am not familiar with this interpretation and personally I think it represents the night sky and the four seasons. Like all good symbols it must have multiple meanings. What does it mean to you?

Sieg Heil!
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Personal fave: Queen Ann's Revenge flag

Keeping prisoners is for losers. No quarter bre!


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The hour glass in hand represents the swift passage of time. The spear and bleeding heart says "let us board or we will kill everyone of you, in a brutal fashion"
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(05-24-2025, 11:58 AM)GreyMan Wrote: [Image: u-https-i-ytimg-com-vi-a-R7-Si-Zgx9-Ok-m...efault.jpg]


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The Swastika is the symbol used by the ancient ice age civilization whose refugees shared technology and culture around the world after the cataclysm of the Younger Dryas. 

It was later used by the world war 2 era Germans to symbolize the connection between themselves and those ancient peoples. 

In a way, we are all refugees of the cataclysm of "The Jewish Century", and the Swastika temporarily symbolizes the loss of the war that allowed that disaster to unfold completely.


[Image: u-https-1-bp-blogspot-com-u-FUZw-DQPWZY-...-Mc2pr.jpg]

Some say the Swastika represents the four ages of man.  I am not familiar with this interpretation and personally I think it represents the night sky and the four seasons.  Like all good symbols it must have multiple meanings.  What does it mean to you?

Sieg Heil!
Years ago I read in (I think it was) March of the Titans that the Swastika might also be the symbol for lightning or fire. I read somewhere else that the Swastika might also represent the tools for making fire, a vital skill among early human civilisations.
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(05-24-2025, 12:31 PM)The Blyton Wrote:
(05-24-2025, 11:58 AM)GreyMan Wrote: [Image: u-https-i-ytimg-com-vi-a-R7-Si-Zgx9-Ok-m...efault.jpg]


[Image: Wooden-1.jpg]

The Swastika is the symbol used by the ancient ice age civilization whose refugees shared technology and culture around the world after the cataclysm of the Younger Dryas. 

It was later used by the world war 2 era Germans to symbolize the connection between themselves and those ancient peoples. 

In a way, we are all refugees of the cataclysm of "The Jewish Century", and the Swastika temporarily symbolizes the loss of the war that allowed that disaster to unfold completely.


[Image: u-https-1-bp-blogspot-com-u-FUZw-DQPWZY-...-Mc2pr.jpg]

Some say the Swastika represents the four ages of man.  I am not familiar with this interpretation and personally I think it represents the night sky and the four seasons.  Like all good symbols it must have multiple meanings.  What does it mean to you?

Sieg Heil!
Years ago I read in (I think it was) March of the Titans that the Swastika might also be the symbol for lightning or fire. I read somewhere else that the Swastika might also represent the tools for making fire, a vital skill among early human civilisations.
I like those interpretations. But to me there is an element of movement that is conveyed. It's like the wheel of time.

But I agree theres a strong element of fire. It sort of looks like a camp fire.
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(05-24-2025, 11:58 AM)GreyMan Wrote: The Swastika is the symbol used by the ancient ice age civilization whose refugees shared technology and culture around the world after the cataclysm of the Younger Dryas.
Why are there no examples of swastikas from the Ice Age then? According to Wikipedia there are a couple possible examples from the late Ice Age, but I don't see how you can get a pre-YD impact, global swastika flying "civilization" out of that? The YD impact theory is just a theory and even if it's true the YD had a minimal impact on east Asia, where some of the earliest swastikas have been recorded.
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I hate how half the world uses boring palette swaps of the tricolor.
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(05-24-2025, 01:03 PM)ToynbeeHistory Wrote: Why are there no examples of swastikas from the Ice Age then?
They're all from the ice age.

(05-24-2025, 01:03 PM)ToynbeeHistory Wrote: The earliest examples I'm aware of a
(05-24-2025, 01:03 PM)ToynbeeHistory Wrote: and the vast majority are from long after
thats how it always is.

(05-24-2025, 01:03 PM)ToynbeeHistory Wrote: According to Wikipedia there are a couple possible examples from the late Ice Age, but I don't see how you can get a pre-YD impact, global swastika flying "civilization" out of that?
Because I didn't read the Wikipedia. I made it up.

(05-24-2025, 01:03 PM)ToynbeeHistory Wrote: YD impact theory
The Younger Dryas is a flower that only blooms in certain climates. It shows that temperatures fluctuated wildly at the end of the last ice age. It was a catastrophe and the majority of creatures living in those regions went extinct.

We don't know what man was up to but we know that out of that catastrophe waves of fair eyed and haired Aryan hyperborean Nazis sailed around the world making swastikas.

(05-24-2025, 01:03 PM)ToynbeeHistory Wrote: YD had a minimal impact on east Asia
It changed the course of their history because it led to Aryan Atlantians colonizing north Eurasia where we lived side by side with the gooks in relative harmony.


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Interbreeding was very rare except among nobility. Here we see an example of a Tartarian princess, half anime and half European.
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(05-24-2025, 12:31 PM)The Blyton Wrote:
(05-24-2025, 11:58 AM)GreyMan Wrote: [Image: u-https-i-ytimg-com-vi-a-R7-Si-Zgx9-Ok-m...efault.jpg]


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The Swastika is the symbol used by the ancient ice age civilization whose refugees shared technology and culture around the world after the cataclysm of the Younger Dryas. 

It was later used by the world war 2 era Germans to symbolize the connection between themselves and those ancient peoples. 

In a way, we are all refugees of the cataclysm of "The Jewish Century", and the Swastika temporarily symbolizes the loss of the war that allowed that disaster to unfold completely.


[Image: u-https-1-bp-blogspot-com-u-FUZw-DQPWZY-...-Mc2pr.jpg]

Some say the Swastika represents the four ages of man.  I am not familiar with this interpretation and personally I think it represents the night sky and the four seasons.  Like all good symbols it must have multiple meanings.  What does it mean to you?

Sieg Heil!
Years ago I read in (I think it was) March of the Titans that the Swastika might also be the symbol for lightning or fire. I read somewhere else that the Swastika might also represent the tools for making fire, a vital skill among early human civilisations.
It makes sense it represents fire because its a sunwheel.
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(05-24-2025, 01:50 PM)GreyMan Wrote: The Younger Dryas is a flower that only blooms in certain climates. It shows that temperatures fluctuated wildly at the end of the last ice age. It was a catastrophe and the majority of creatures living in those regions went extinct.
One of the problems with this theory is that scholarly dating of YD varies. The standard is that it was from 12,900 to 11,700 years ago, but when the Pleistocene extinction happened in North America - which is where the greatest extinctions of megafauna happened, far more than in Europe - is debated. For example, C. Haynes (2008) has argued that the extinction took place before the YD. The theory is that the PaleIndians hunted most of these animals to extinction, which if you've ever seen an Indian rez is highly believable.

Also the YD didn't affect Europe nearly as much. Mammoths were living on Wrangel Island until about 4,000 years ago.

The YD impact theory is interesting, but I don't think it explains everything. BTW, for those reading this, the YD impact theory was first proposed by an archaeologist named Richard Firestone. The Wikipedia article about it is clearly biased against it, but mainly accurate.

Firestone argued that a comet or asteroid hit the Earth around 12,900 years ago, which created an extinction level event. His evidence are "black mats" he excavated at ten Clovis sites (Clovis was a PaleoIndian culture from about 13,200 to 11,500 years ago). Others, such as Surovell et al. (2009) have disputed this, claiming that their studies of the same sites show reduced, not increased amounts of magnetic grains. There's also the fact that Clovis is generally believed to have begun before YD.

Now if you advocated for the Solutrean hypothesis being the diffusion point of swastikas, that'd make more sense, but neither the Solutreans nor the Clovis people had swastikas in their cave art.
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(05-24-2025, 11:58 AM)GreyMan Wrote: [Image: u-https-i-ytimg-com-vi-a-R7-Si-Zgx9-Ok-m...efault.jpg]


[Image: Wooden-1.jpg]

The Swastika is the symbol used by the ancient ice age civilization whose refugees shared technology and culture around the world after the cataclysm of the Younger Dryas. 

It was later used by the world war 2 era Germans to symbolize the connection between themselves and those ancient peoples. 

In a way, we are all refugees of the cataclysm of "The Jewish Century", and the Swastika temporarily symbolizes the loss of the war that allowed that disaster to unfold completely.


[Image: u-https-1-bp-blogspot-com-u-FUZw-DQPWZY-...-Mc2pr.jpg]

Some say the Swastika represents the four ages of man.  I am not familiar with this interpretation and personally I think it represents the night sky and the four seasons.  Like all good symbols it must have multiple meanings.  What does it mean to you?

Sieg Heil!
Never heard of this ice age myth, I'll look into it. I read the oldest swastikas are found in eastern Europe where the Vinca once settled long before writing was invented. Its a thread worthy topic that deserves special focus, maybe you should make a thread on this and make a case. Its a thread about flags and heraldry lad, not esoteric primordial symbols of prehistoric ancient civilizations know one can really prove.

I'm sure we all have an idea on the lore of how the great cataclysm of the finno-korean hyperwar led to the downfall of hyperborea and whatnot, LOL.
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I've always liked the Nordic flags, even though the modern rulers of those countries don't live up to it.

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And also the Vinland flag. Thanks Peter Steele!

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It's a shame the US hasn't fully embraced heraldry.
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Sicily flag, or Trinacria

[Image: Flag-of-Sicily-svg.png]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Sicily

Quote:The flag of Sicily[a] shows a triskeles symbol (a figure of three legs arranged in rotational symmetry), and at its center a Gorgoneion (depiction of the head of Medusa) with a pair of wings and three wheat ears. In the original flag, the wheat ears did not exist and the colors were reversed. The original flag was created in 1282 during the rebellion of the Sicilian Vespers.

The flag is characterized by the presence of the triskeles in its middle formed by the winged head of a woman (Hybla [it], goddess of fertility among the ancient Sicilian people), head topped with a knot of snakes and three wheat ears, from which three bent legs radiate, as if seized in mid-race, representing the extreme fertility of the land of Sicily. [2] The triskelion symbol is said to represent the three capes (headlands or promontories of the island of Sicily), namely: Pelorus (Peloro, Tip of Faro, Messina: North-East); Pachynus (Passero, Syracuse: South); and Lilybæum (Lilibeo, Cape Boeo, Marsala: West), which form three points of a triangle from the historical three valli of the island.[3][4]

The flag is bisected diagonally into regions colored red, the color of Palermo, and yellow, the color of Corleone. These are the two cities that started the revolution of the Sicilian Vespers. The flag was used during the medieval revolution of the Vespers. [5]


The "Vespro flag" used by separatist movements in the 1940s:


[Image: Vespro-flag-svg.png]
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(06-06-2025, 09:04 PM)Hermes Wrote: Sicily flag, or Trinacria

[Image: Flag-of-Sicily-svg.png]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Sicily

Quote:The flag of Sicily[a] shows a triskeles symbol (a figure of three legs arranged in rotational symmetry), and at its center a Gorgoneion (depiction of the head of Medusa) with a pair of wings and three wheat ears. In the original flag, the wheat ears did not exist and the colors were reversed. The original flag was created in 1282 during the rebellion of the Sicilian Vespers.

The flag is characterized by the presence of the triskeles in its middle formed by the winged head of a woman (Hybla [it], goddess of fertility among the ancient Sicilian people), head topped with a knot of snakes and three wheat ears, from which three bent legs radiate, as if seized in mid-race, representing the extreme fertility of the land of Sicily. [2] The triskelion symbol is said to represent the three capes (headlands or promontories of the island of Sicily), namely: Pelorus (Peloro, Tip of Faro, Messina: North-East); Pachynus (Passero, Syracuse: South); and Lilybæum (Lilibeo, Cape Boeo, Marsala: West), which form three points of a triangle from the historical three valli of the island.[3][4]

The flag is bisected diagonally into regions colored red, the color of Palermo, and yellow, the color of Corleone. These are the two cities that started the revolution of the Sicilian Vespers. The flag was used during the medieval revolution of the Vespers. [5]


The "Vespro flag" used by separatist movements in the 1940s:


[Image: Vespro-flag-svg.png]
It reminds me of the flag for the Isle of Man.


[Image: Flag-of-the-Isle-of-Man-svg.png]
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(06-08-2025, 05:46 PM)YondertheMonger Wrote:
(06-06-2025, 09:04 PM)Hermes Wrote: Sicily flag, or Trinacria

[Image: Flag-of-Sicily-svg.png]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Sicily

Quote:The flag of Sicily[a] shows a triskeles symbol (a figure of three legs arranged in rotational symmetry), and at its center a Gorgoneion (depiction of the head of Medusa) with a pair of wings and three wheat ears. In the original flag, the wheat ears did not exist and the colors were reversed. The original flag was created in 1282 during the rebellion of the Sicilian Vespers.

The flag is characterized by the presence of the triskeles in its middle formed by the winged head of a woman (Hybla [it], goddess of fertility among the ancient Sicilian people), head topped with a knot of snakes and three wheat ears, from which three bent legs radiate, as if seized in mid-race, representing the extreme fertility of the land of Sicily. [2] The triskelion symbol is said to represent the three capes (headlands or promontories of the island of Sicily), namely: Pelorus (Peloro, Tip of Faro, Messina: North-East); Pachynus (Passero, Syracuse: South); and Lilybæum (Lilibeo, Cape Boeo, Marsala: West), which form three points of a triangle from the historical three valli of the island.[3][4]

The flag is bisected diagonally into regions colored red, the color of Palermo, and yellow, the color of Corleone. These are the two cities that started the revolution of the Sicilian Vespers. The flag was used during the medieval revolution of the Vespers. [5]


The "Vespro flag" used by separatist movements in the 1940s:


[Image: Vespro-flag-svg.png]
It reminds me of the flag for the Isle of Man.


[Image: Flag-of-the-Isle-of-Man-svg.png]
Basically it's the same. And basically it's the same concept of triskely translated on the other side of the ocean, but basically it's the blueprint for the swastica.
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(06-08-2025, 08:28 PM)Hermes Wrote:
(06-08-2025, 05:46 PM)YondertheMonger Wrote:
(06-06-2025, 09:04 PM)Hermes Wrote: Sicily flag, or Trinacria

[Image: Flag-of-Sicily-svg.png]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Sicily

Quote:The flag of Sicily[a] shows a triskeles symbol (a figure of three legs arranged in rotational symmetry), and at its center a Gorgoneion (depiction of the head of Medusa) with a pair of wings and three wheat ears. In the original flag, the wheat ears did not exist and the colors were reversed. The original flag was created in 1282 during the rebellion of the Sicilian Vespers.

The flag is characterized by the presence of the triskeles in its middle formed by the winged head of a woman (Hybla [it], goddess of fertility among the ancient Sicilian people), head topped with a knot of snakes and three wheat ears, from which three bent legs radiate, as if seized in mid-race, representing the extreme fertility of the land of Sicily. [2] The triskelion symbol is said to represent the three capes (headlands or promontories of the island of Sicily), namely: Pelorus (Peloro, Tip of Faro, Messina: North-East); Pachynus (Passero, Syracuse: South); and Lilybæum (Lilibeo, Cape Boeo, Marsala: West), which form three points of a triangle from the historical three valli of the island.[3][4]

The flag is bisected diagonally into regions colored red, the color of Palermo, and yellow, the color of Corleone. These are the two cities that started the revolution of the Sicilian Vespers. The flag was used during the medieval revolution of the Vespers. [5]


The "Vespro flag" used by separatist movements in the 1940s:


[Image: Vespro-flag-svg.png]
It reminds me of the flag for the Isle of Man.


[Image: Flag-of-the-Isle-of-Man-svg.png]
Basically it's the same. And basically it's the same concept of triskely translated on the other side of the ocean, but basically it's the blueprint for the swastica.

You mean those flags call back to this ancient symbol used by the ancient celts and greeks millenia ago?

[Image: triskelion-1.jpg]
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(06-06-2025, 09:04 PM)Hermes Wrote: Sicily flag, or Trinacria

[Image: Flag-of-Sicily-svg.png]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Sicily

Quote:The flag of Sicily[a] shows a triskeles symbol (a figure of three legs arranged in rotational symmetry), and at its center a Gorgoneion (depiction of the head of Medusa) with a pair of wings and three wheat ears. In the original flag, the wheat ears did not exist and the colors were reversed. The original flag was created in 1282 during the rebellion of the Sicilian Vespers.

The flag is characterized by the presence of the triskeles in its middle formed by the winged head of a woman (Hybla [it], goddess of fertility among the ancient Sicilian people), head topped with a knot of snakes and three wheat ears, from which three bent legs radiate, as if seized in mid-race, representing the extreme fertility of the land of Sicily. [2] The triskelion symbol is said to represent the three capes (headlands or promontories of the island of Sicily), namely: Pelorus (Peloro, Tip of Faro, Messina: North-East); Pachynus (Passero, Syracuse: South); and Lilybæum (Lilibeo, Cape Boeo, Marsala: West), which form three points of a triangle from the historical three valli of the island.[3][4]

The flag is bisected diagonally into regions colored red, the color of Palermo, and yellow, the color of Corleone. These are the two cities that started the revolution of the Sicilian Vespers. The flag was used during the medieval revolution of the Vespers. [5]


The "Vespro flag" used by separatist movements in the 1940s:


[Image: Vespro-flag-svg.png]
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(06-09-2025, 12:30 AM)ToynbeeHistory Wrote:
(06-06-2025, 09:04 PM)Hermes Wrote: Sicily flag, or Trinacria

[Image: Flag-of-Sicily-svg.png]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Sicily

Quote:The flag of Sicily[a] shows a triskeles symbol (a figure of three legs arranged in rotational symmetry), and at its center a Gorgoneion (depiction of the head of Medusa) with a pair of wings and three wheat ears. In the original flag, the wheat ears did not exist and the colors were reversed. The original flag was created in 1282 during the rebellion of the Sicilian Vespers.

The flag is characterized by the presence of the triskeles in its middle formed by the winged head of a woman (Hybla [it], goddess of fertility among the ancient Sicilian people), head topped with a knot of snakes and three wheat ears, from which three bent legs radiate, as if seized in mid-race, representing the extreme fertility of the land of Sicily. [2] The triskelion symbol is said to represent the three capes (headlands or promontories of the island of Sicily), namely: Pelorus (Peloro, Tip of Faro, Messina: North-East); Pachynus (Passero, Syracuse: South); and Lilybæum (Lilibeo, Cape Boeo, Marsala: West), which form three points of a triangle from the historical three valli of the island.[3][4]

The flag is bisected diagonally into regions colored red, the color of Palermo, and yellow, the color of Corleone. These are the two cities that started the revolution of the Sicilian Vespers. The flag was used during the medieval revolution of the Vespers. [5]


The "Vespro flag" used by separatist movements in the 1940s:


[Image: Vespro-flag-svg.png]
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