PLASTIC BOTTLES OF ICE WATER

From: mviscont@freenet.vcu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
Subject: Plastic Bottles of Ice Water...
Date: 14 Aug 1996 12:58:17 -0400

               RE: STOP THE PRESSES, I THINK I HAVE HAD AN IDEA !
 
 On Thu, 08 Aug 1996 05:24:55 -0500, Rick Bowen <rbowen@fastlane.net 
 wrote:

  We have used the soda bottle trick for fishing. Freeze the bottles, w/lid
  off, allowing for expansion,screw the caps on, put them in the cooler, and
  viola`, no need for ice.

      Wipe the top off after some thawing, dink melted water. We have been able
  to use the bottles numerous times. Old Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper bottles work
  fine.

Another source recommended taking the plastic bottles, and
freezing them up-side down.  If they don't have time to fully
freeze, the water turns to ice from the "top"-"Down", leaving
chilled ("almost froze") water _at the top_ once righted, so
you can get a drink earlier if you need to.  Only problem I see
is that you can't freeze 'em with the lid off, that way.

And, yet another aside...

One of the hunting magazines I was reading advocated hiking
with a pack filled with xx pounds of sand or feed to get in
shape for huntin' season.  Being a bit backwards, I substituted
1 liter water bottles... 12 liters of water to hike with, and
still be able to hydrate myself as needed.

Just a thought.

From: nickhull@ (Nick Hull)
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Plastic Bottles of Ice Water...
Date: 21 Aug 1996 12:22:10 GMT

In article <4ut0j9$8ki@freenet.vcu.edu , mviscont@freenet.vcu.edu wrote:

                 RE: STOP THE PRESSES, I THINK I HAVE HAD AN IDEA !
   
   On Thu, 08 Aug 1996 05:24:55 -0500, Rick Bowen <rbowen@fastlane.net 
   wrote:

    We have used the soda bottle trick for fishing. Freeze the bottles, w/lid
    off, allowing for expansion,screw the caps on, put them in the cooler, and
    viola`, no need for ice.

Wipe the top off after some thawing, dink melted water. We have been able 
to use the bottles numerous times. Old Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper bottles work 
fine.
  
  Another source recommended taking the plastic bottles, and
  freezing them up-side down.  If they don't have time to fully
  freeze, the water turns to ice from the "top"-"Down", leaving
  chilled ("almost froze") water _at the top_ once righted, so
  you can get a drink earlier if you need to.  Only problem I see
  is that you can't freeze 'em with the lid off, that way.
  
  And, yet another aside...
  
  One of the hunting magazines I was reading advocated hiking
  with a pack filled with xx pounds of sand or feed to get in
  shape for huntin' season.  Being a bit backwards, I substituted
  1 liter water bottles... 12 liters of water to hike with, and
  still be able to hydrate myself as needed.
  

I freeze the 2-liter bottles on their side, with a little air pocket for
expansion.  In any case, when a little has melted you can drink it
easily.  With carbonated soda pop it is possible to freexe it just right
so it freezes into slush when you pour it into a cup.  VERY cold.

- 
nickhull@usit.net
Free men own guns-slaves don't

From: J-Burton@outwest.gardnerville.nv.us (Jeff Burton)
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Plastic Bottles of Ice Water...
Date: 28 Aug 1996 19:45:52 GMT

 I freeze the 2-liter bottles on their side, with a little air pocket for
 expansion.  In any case, when a little has melted you can drink it
 easily.  With carbonated soda pop it is possible to freexe it just right
 so it freezes into slush when you pour it into a cup.  VERY cold.
 
Try Gatorade botles, they have riges that alow expansion inside the bottle 
so you can fill it up more.

From: haji@u.washington.edu (H. McDaniel)
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Plastic Bottles of Ice Water...
Date: 29 Aug 1996 09:46:40 GMT

J-Burton@outwest.gardnerville.nv.us (Jeff Burton) writes:

  I freeze the 2-liter bottles on their side, with a little air pocket for
  expansion.  In any case, when a little has melted you can drink it
  easily.  With carbonated soda pop it is possible to freexe it just right
  so it freezes into slush when you pour it into a cup.  VERY cold.

 try Gatorade botles, they have riges that alow expansion inside the bottle 
 so you can fill it up more.

I have recently frozen 2 dozen 2 liters - the same from the long
room temp. storage experiment Iposted here a year back.  They have
been repeatedly thawed and re-frozen.  No problems -- EXCEPT, 2 liters
bearing the Coca-Cola label have a weaker lining and bulge.

I'm not sure if this problem is limited to my local bottling company or is
national/beyond.

Also re: 2-liters... it cannot be stressed enough how important it is
to keep them out of the sunlight.  Even indirect sunlight will slowly
weaken the biodegradable plastic (besides the other more pressing problem
those of us who store our water naturally, wish to avoid.)  Now this
weakening will not cause a failure of your plastic bottles within at
least the first 3-3.5 years... I gurantee.  Beyond that, I haven't tested.

-McDaniel