Lawyers for some of the seven men, who have been placed under formal
investigation by a French magistrate for the manslaughter of Princess Diana,
have been protesting their clients' innocence.
The lawyers say the authorities are seeking scapegoats because of the high
profile of the case. One lawyer has criticised what he described as "showbiz
justice".
The seven accused -- six photographers
and a driver -- were allowed to go back to their work on Wednesday on condition
that they do not leave France.
Five of the seven - Nikola Arsov, of the Sipa agency; Jacques Langevin, of the
Sygma agency; Laslo Veres, a freelance, Stephane Darmon, of the Gamma agency;
and Serge Arnal of the Stills agency - were freed unconditionally. The two
others - Romuald Rat, of Gamma, and Christian Martinez, of the Angeli agency -
were released on FFr100,000 (£10,000) bail.
They are challenging the examining magistrate's accusations that they caused the
deaths of the Princess, Dodi Fayed and their driver, and that they neglected to
help them when their car crashed.
Rat: I tried to help Princess Diana Romuald Rat interviewed on French TV
One of the paparazzi, Romuald Rat, has been interviewed on French television. He
said that someone else had already called for help when he arrived on the scene.
And he said he had tried to help Diana.
In a newspaper interview, another of the photographers claims he had been merely
Harold Shipman..wkipedia...jew
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Saladin admitted on the mailing list that he had done this after a discussion on a bulletin board about how Shipman's Jewish background had never been published by the media.
There are no reliable sources that say Shipman was a Jew, and even if he was, it's not relevant enough that it needs to go in the very first sentence, and was evidently being done to make Jews look bad. The only person I'm aware of who has raised Shipman's alleged Jewish background is Abu Hamza al-Masri who, during his 2004 trial for incitement to murder, claimed in court that the British Foreign Office, money supply, and media are controlled by Jews, offering by way of evidence that Harold Shipman's Jewish background had been suppressed by journalists. [5] This is the mindset that Saladin1970 brings to Wikipedia, and it's the reason I believe his naming himself Abu Hamza on the list is not a cooincidence.
In addition, his admission that he targeted the article after taking part in a bulletin-board discussion about it strongly suggests it was an anti-Semitic/Islamist board. It's unlikely this kind of material would be discussed elsewhere.
The edits in question are:
- an anon adds to the intro that Shipman was Jewish-British at 01:17 May 13;
- Saladin re-inserts it on 21:48 May 13, his first edit to the article;
- an anon adds it at 15:25 May 15;
- Saladin reinserts it at 08:03 May 16;
- Saladin reinserts it at 19:04 May 16;
- Saladin again at 08:12 May 17, this time changing tack slightly and adding instead that Shipman was "the son of a jewish [sic] asylulm [sic] seeker ..." referencing the BBC's Newsnight in his edit summary. However, so far as I know, the BBC made reference to Shipman's alleged Jewish background only to say that Abu Hamza al-Masri was citing its supposed suppression as evidence of Jewish control of the media; [6]
- He added it again at 06:48 May 18;
- And again at 08:05 May 18. Then he was blocked by Tom harrison, I believe for a 3RR violation elsewhere.
Apart from at Harold Shipman, Saladin's editing involved a 3RR violation using a sockpuppet account, which he later insisted was a work colleague with the same IP address, same browser, and same opinion; a copyvio; and block evasion using at least one anon IP.
If the Arbitration Committee hears appeals from every racist, anti-Semitic, and Islamophobic account that's blocked after 20 edits for trying to insert bigotry into Wikipedia, it's going to be very busy. At some point, the judgment of administrators has to be trusted. If Saladin1970 really wants to return and make decent edits, all he has to do is choose another user name and continue. If his edits are decent, no one will notice that it's him. SlimVirgin (talk) 13:53, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- I should add that, after Ryan reduced the block to one week, I asked him if he would be prepared to mentor Saladin. When Ryan didn't agree to this, and Saladin continued to defend his position on the mailing list, and also continued to evade his block by posting as an anon, I decided to reinstate the indefinite block. SlimVirgin (talk) 14:00, 27 May 2006 (UTC
Sixth doctor cleared over Shipman
Harold Shipman murdered about 250 patients with morphine
A sixth doctor who signed cremation forms for serial killer Harold Shipman in
Greater Manchester has been cleared of professional misconduct.
Dr Susan Booth was found not guilty of serious professional misconduct by the
General Medical Council on Friday.
The doctors had been accused of failing to notice "extraordinary coincidences"
between timings of Shipman's home visits and patient deaths in Hyde.
Three doctors were cleared on Thursday and two others last year.
Doctors Jeremy Dirckze, Stephen Farrar and Alistair MacGillivray had been
cleared of misconduct charges at a General Medical Council (GMC) Fitness to
Practise Panel hearing in Manchester.
The panel has no doubt that the oral account which he gave to Dr Booth would
have been totally convincing
Dr Linda Buchanan
Two other GPs, Peter Bennett and Rajesh Patel, were cleared of the same charges
last December.
Anyone read the book; know a source; know Hal's source?
http://halturnershow.com/
JEW DOCTOR CONVICTED OF MURDERING 215!
DIDN'T HAVE TO UPHOLD OATH TO "DO NO HARM" BECAUSE HE IS A JEW WHO SPOKE THE KOL
NIDRE PRAYER RENOUNCING ALL OATHS ON YOM KIPPUR!
British Doctor shows all too well, how untrustworthy the Yids can be.
'Deja' (now google) poster claims Shipman is a jew. Poster cites no source, but
says- "As an American with a Jewish ancestry..."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=dr...arq.com&rnum=1
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/7...posts?page=4#4
http://www.viddler.com/explore/escritoconsangr/videos/23/ ... 45 min excellent documentary
shlemiel --- Jewish term for dopey person
shlep ----- Means to shop
shmeckle--- penis, cock, sometimes referred to as 'Stick pussy'
John was a first cousin once-removed. I don't believe that it is well known
that during his stay with CBS he, as a writer, accompanied an American tour
group in Europe to note the details for a possible CBS special.
He told me afterwards, that during that bus ride, he overheard a couple in front
of him speaking. Essentially: He: "Where are we?" She: "Well, it's Tuesday, so
it must be Belgium."
That became the title of the piece that later aired and became a movie.
John got no credit since he was merely doing his job.
Posted by Paul Chessin on April 7, 2004 5:10 PM
My parents are Germans from the East. In the US, the tragedy that happened to
innocent individuals of German ethnicity is little known. John smote a powerful
blow for truth. I bought many copies of "An Eye" and distributed them among
friends.
May his soul rest in the peace well earned by the just.
Posted by Thomas on April 8, 2004 5:58 PM
Thanks for sharing that story with us all. I really found it interesting and
will pass it on to some of my friends.
Posted by quality on August 21, 2004 2:17 PM
I recently learned of Johns death, he was a great reported and through his work
set a standard I hope other can follow. John was attached to C Company 2Bn 34th
Armor 1st INF Div for the Gulf War he was attached to us prior to deployment. To
say the least he wasn't received with a warm shoulder. The embedded reporter was
a concept that none of us had worked with and were scared to death of. We didn't
need the world knowing what we did. He stayed with us and watched our every
move, until about two weeks prior to our deploying. Once in country he once
again was in my back pocket. He was one of his word and would listen to any
story someone had to tell. He always wanted a true depiction of how C Company
operated. C company was the tank company lead the assault for VII Corp and only
sustained one injury, which John described to the T. He was a man of few needs
and after time a great joy to work with, to this day I have the rosters of those
who fought with C 2/34 and "John Sack reporter" served side by side with those
PROUD MEN of COMPANY C
Signed The Crusty Old First Sgt
C Company 2/34 Armor
Posted by Robert Harn on February 28, 2005 11:45 AM
John Sack's an apologist for Solomon
Morell,
the thug who raped & murdered prisoners. Why should we sympathize with
John Sack dying of cancer, when he was an apologist for someone who murders &
rapes?
John Sack saw nothing wrong with what Solomon Morel & he was against Solmon
Morel being punished for his evil deeds. For this reason, there's not any
serious reasons to feel sorry for the death of John Sack.
Posted by Johsackdied on March 7, 2005 9:01 AM
John Sack excused the murderous deeds of Solomon Morel & for this reason,
there's no reason to empathize with Mr. Sack dying of cancer. John Sack had the
mentality of a defense attorney, who sees nothing wrong with murder & rape.
Posted by reeler on April 29, 2005 8:05 PM
Could John Sack have not died of bone cancer? If John Sack had redeemed himself,
said he was wrong about being an apologist for Solomon Morel & said that Solomon
Morel must be hanged for his evil deeds of murder & rape, then John Sack
wouldn't have died of cancer. God would have spared John Sack.
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John Sack arrogantly was an apologist for the rapes &
murders that Solomon Morel did. For this reason, John Sack got bone cancer &
John Sack didn't change his evil thinking in justifying something as
horrible as raping a 10 year old
girl & murdering the victims. If this had been a German man doing it
to a Jewess girl, it wouldn't be tolerated by John Sack, but John Sack's an
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There's no excuse to rape 10 year old
girls like what Solomon Morel did & the apologists like John Sack, MNUEZ
& Diamond are evil. If a Jew murders a Gentile, then they must be brought to
justice for it, just as if a Gentile were to murder a Jew.
John Sack was given the opportunity to admit he was wrong, but he was arrogant &
for John Sack's arrogant apologism & his refusal to redeem himself, John Sack
died of cancer.
Posted by reeler on May 16, 2005 2:08 PM
John Sack was a journalist and the job of a journalist is to tell it like he
sees it, with no regard for how others would LIKE to see it. A journalist is
supposed to report the TRUTH, not pander to his reader's opinions, no matter how
strongly held.
The comments above along the lines that John Sack died of cancer because he did
not "atone" for his views are ludicrous. I suppose the reasoning is that if he
had atoned, he would have lived forever?
Hurrah for John Sack - a journalist with GUTS.
Posted by partnerfrance on June 19, 2005 2:39 PM
John Sack may have been a good journalist but he was a pretty bad Jew. Anyone
who could compare what Solomon Morel did with the actions of the Nazi's is
either seriously misinformed or ridiculously anti-Semitic. I consider myself a
well adjusted individual but as a Jew if
I found myself in charge of a camp with Nazi inmates I would of done just what
Morel did and I have only lost distant relatives to the Piece of sh*t
Nazis. Shame on John Sack for becoming the mouthpiece of the same old
anti-Semitic morons who criticize our people's every action.
Posted by Diamond on July 10, 2005 3:24 AM
WTF diamond, a bad jew? For what? Telling the truth? Its okay for Israeli secret
police to travel to a sovereign state then kidnap somebody for trial, but not
okay for Poland to use the law to try and punish a mass-murderer. Im not anti-semetic
or a nazi, I just believe crime should be punished. So what if he had family
members killed by nazis, how does that excuse killing women and children. Try
the bastard I say.
Posted by karl on July 14, 2005 2:38 PM
Well said karl. Have the people above actually read the book? Sack dosnt condone
the actions of morel, sack was instrumental in exposing him to the world. Thats
the reason of the controversy. Jewish leaders didnt approve that sack , a jew,
revealed morels murderous exploits.
Posted by Emmerich Anreiter on July 14, 2005 6:15 PM
Obviously I didn't bother to read his book. It doesn't interest me.
Now, I'll be the first person to say that Jews are not inherently saintly
people. I've met a whole host of Jews who are pure assholes (generally those
employed as lawyers) and other fine and large bunches of semites who are cruel,
viscious and mean in all sorts of ways. I've even had the delightful experience
of meeting Jewish murderers. I therefore make no claim for Jews being somehow
above criticism.
Such being the case, I consider it entirely possible that Mr. Morel is all of
the above: a sadist intent on sadism for its own sake. But I have no way of
knowing that.
Having read about the great tragedy of Mr. Morel's terrible murders (and here
I'm being sarcastic) I remain entirely untouched. In fact, I salute Mr. Morel.
And I condemn those who write books on him for kicks along with those folk who,
not knowing a damn thing about what it was like to be a Jew in German Europe
(let's not play that 'Nazi Europe' game, they were Germans iinm) - these
righteous westerners not feeling the fear and torture of Jews in German Europe,
yawningly condemning Mr. Morel.
I'm with the Jew whose last act was to inscribe YIDDEN NEKAMA! on the wall of
the synagogue in his own blood as his entire village was being murdered. I'm
with him. And I salute Mr. Morel for taking that responsibility seriously.
And you know what? If more Jews would have played the game Morel is accused of
playing (probably exaggerated by the way) at the end of WWII; had Kovner had
been successful in poisoning the German's water supply; had Israeli knesset
member Chaim Bograshov's demand for a bombing of Germany been accepted -- maybe
today's Jew haters would think twice.
Alas, they don't.
((And please remember what I penned at the top of my comments to the effect that
Morel may in fact be a cruel, heartless, sadistic Nazi whose actions were not
the normal and beautiful revenge that they likely were. The revenge on your
killers I applaud, but were we to find out that he acted similarly as a
communist with people who were not his people's executioners, my defense
rests.))
Posted by mnuez on July 15, 2005 4:45 AM
The apologists for Solomon MOrel-MNUEZ & Diamond must really end it.
Stalin's Jewish henchmen raped Ukrainian
girls, murdered kids & starved & killed millions before the Nazi Holocaust
against them. Does it then mean that Ivan the Terrible must be excused
for killing Jewish men, women & kids in Treblinka? It's possible that he had
relatives killed by Stalin's henchmen.
The death of John Sack from bone cancer must be a warning to MNUEZ & Diamond. If
MNUEZ & Diamond continue to be apologists for Solomon Morel & they get cancer &
die of it, well they got cancer because they're Solomon MOrel's apologists. John
Sack as noted, died of bone cancer because he arrogantly was an apologist for
the evil Solomon Morel.
Posted by br on August 31, 2005 1:09 PM
BR, y'know I guess I must be wrong. You have such a deep understanding of
history and medicine that I really would love to become your disciple. Please
teach us more. All of that information in your head must be unloaded, if for the
sake of comfort, if nothing else. Do inform.
mnuez
Posted by mnuez on September 15, 2005 5:40 PM
We can combat asocials like MNUEZ.
Lazar Kaganovitch, Lev Mekhlis, Genrikh Yagoda, et. al. is plenty of proof that
Jewish henchmen committed Stalin's biggest Holocaust in history, even if you
deny it & yes, Jewish henchmen have killed far more than Nazi henchmen.
MNUEZ, keep making arrogant excuses for evil people who rape & murder 10 year
olds & you'll end up dying of cancer just like John Sack.
Being an apologist for cowards who rape 10 year olds causes cancer & John Sack
is proof of that.
Posted by br on November 15, 2005 4:08 PM
Ahhhh!!!!! You're right! Now I have cancer and I can't get rid of it!!!!
If only I had listened to you BR. If only. But now it's too late.
You know what though. I feel like we're so close so now I'm going to go down to
the Western Wall (it'll take me less than 6 minutes) and I'm going to pronounce
a special and strong kabbalistic curse upon you that you get the cancer that you
gave me. But I'm going to pray that you DIE from it and in lots of painnnn....
I'm kidding of course. Even though your writing is really very ugly and your
soul appears to be dirtier than the inside of an abandoned dumpster, you also
appear to be just plain old crazy and sick and I wouldn't want to add to your
psychosis. and you know why? Becauise i'm a nice jew and I feel bad for the
losers of the world such as yourself. that's the truth. so I'll tell you that i
was just kidding about the curse. If you DO want it though, let me know and I
WILL arrange it.
all the best dumb goy,
mnuez
Posted by mnuez on November 24, 2005 2:03 AM
MNUEZ, you don't even know the religion of this poster.
Don't wish cancer on people who try to help you like this poster or you'll die
of cancer.
You must repent MNUEZ. Stop being an apologist for anyone who rapes 10 year old
girls like Solomon Morel did & you'll avoid getting cancer.
Be a nice man & don't be asocial like Solomon Morel & you'll die a peaceful
death.
However, if you continue to be an arrogant apologist for child molesters like
Solomon Morel did, you'll die of the painful death of cancer.
Be nice, not evil. This poster's trying to save you from dying of a painful
death of cancer & trying to prevent you from dying like John Sack did. G_d bless
you.
Posted by br on November 28, 2005 8:02 PM
John Sack was a good and Honorable man. I first meet him before the Gulf War
when he first embedded with my company C co 2-34 Armor 1st Infantry Division.
He talked and interviewed the Men of the company before we left for the war and
meet us in country.
A couple of times he slept on the back deck of my tank and I got to know him
quit well.
I liked John, he was a good man, and he wrote the truth, and some times the
truth is not pretty.
I hope that those of you that wrote such hateful things will some day find peace
and knowledge. I truly pity such ignorance and hate.
Ace's 66 Gulf!
Posted by James on January 2, 2006 4:03 AM
James:
John Sack was a bad man, a piece of sh*t. Because John Sack excuses rape &
murder with his belief against punishing Solomon Morel for raping & murdering 10
year old girls, that makes John Sack a piece of sh*t & we don't have to feel
sorry for him.
Posted by br on February 3, 2006 7:26 PM
I dont know his complete and personal history, but as a soldier that interacted
with him during Desert Storm, the one thing he did that I thought honorable, is
after we were all deployed, he took phone numbers from any and everyone who
wanted him to contact their families to say that he saw them and they were doing
fine. I know my family sure appreciated his phone call.
Posted by Means Kid on March 25, 2006 7:48 PM
Don't any of you who are eulogizing John Sack see anything wrong with John
Sack's belief against punishing Solomon MOrel for raping & murdering 10 year old
Gentile girls?
Why are you so sympathetic to this evil man John Sack, an apologist who's
against seeing Solomon MOrel brought to justice for raping & murdering Gentile
girls? What if it was your daughter?
Posted by br on April 5, 2006 7:43 PM
Not to continue discussing the death of John Sack, because alot has been
rehashed, but is it best that the discussions about John Sack be ended?
John Sack could've avioded bone cancer if he hadn't been an apologist for rapist
& murderer Solomon Morel.
Many have had bad things happen, but they haven't gone out, raped women &
murdered.
With regard to WW2, has any1 read the Book Stalin's War of Extermination? Was
Hitler defending territory when he launched Operation Barbarossa? Did Stalin
want to conquer to spread Communism? Hitler didn't trust Stalin.
@least some of those who were executed by the Nazis were Stalin's henchmen. The
Commissar Order resulted in Stalin's henchmen being executed by the Nazis. Was
it a bad thing? Yes, the Nazis did many bad things. OUt of millions killed
during WW2, the Commissar Order is an eg. of where the Nazis SOMETIMES killed
bad people, because Stalin's Commissars were bad people.
Posted by br on April 11, 2006 11:44 AM
Message of Jorge Klainman, survivor of the
Holocausto
Most excellent Ambassadors.
Very appreciated Members of the National Government, Provincial Governments and
the City of Buenos Aires.
Directors of Argentine institutions and the Jewish community.
Dear friends of the Museum of the Holocausto. Companions of the distant calvario.
Respectable public.
Be all very welcome you. I am Jorge surviving unique Klainman of a
traditionalistic family, judeo-Pole, composed by
six people: my parents, two sisters, a brother and I.
To my 13 years, we were brutally
separated. To them they sent them to the field of Belzec extermination in
Poland, where all died in the gas chambers.
I
managed to enter a concentration camp to work, only and exclusively thanks to
one of the miracles on which I write in my
autobiography. Because I imagine that you know that to 1.500.000 girls and
Jewish boys, were not sent to work, but directly to the gas chambers.
Auschwitz well
During four interminable years I passed
by six concentration camps of most terrible than it had in the damn Nazi empire.
Daily it coexisted with the death, to
inclusively removed me alive from a deep well buried underneath 99 corpses.
Today I have a beautiful family: wife, 4 children, 3 grandsons, who are for me
an inexhaustible source of happiness and pride.
I dedicate all my life to a single aim, to tell to the world the truth of which
the Nazis did to him to my town and other towns by subjugated them.
Today we remembered sexagésimoprimer anniversary of the liberation of the field
of Auschwitz-Birkenau extermination. There the Nazis obtained something
absolutely incredible and inconceivable, in hardly two years they assassinated
and
they burned to 2.500.000 innocent people, who were made up of 1.500.000 Jews,
the immense majority women and boys, 700,000 gypsys, 100,000 witnesses of
Polish, Russian Jehovah and the rest and of others
occupied nations. Today we remembered this fact anywhere in the world and this
it is very important; not only it makes possible that sagrada memory of greater
crime in history of humanity, is commemorated, but that motivates to much
democratic people to that they fight with all his forces, against the
fundamentalist terrorists
assassins and the Nazis whom they at all costs look for to bring to him to the
world free another great catastrophe. We cannot allow it. We must unite to us,
Jewish, catholic.... and all the people of good will, to work together against
the mega Nazi and terrorist assassins, and to create a righter world and
tolerant.
From this place I make a dramatic call to all the educational ones and
responsible for the culture and education, ábrannos the doors of the schools and
universities, visit our Museum of the Holocausto in Buenos Aires, so that we
pruned to tell the truth to our young people, they have the right to know it.
Each testimony of a survivor has an enormous importance; he counts his own
experiences and fights to which they deny the reality of the Shoá, the
Holocausto.
I am going to them to recite a poem which I composed like tribute to all those
that they were assassinated in the Nazi fields of extermination and says the
following thing:
Auschwitz-Auschwitz, field of death, to
leave there with life, were pure luck. The chimneys of your crematorios it left
black smoke, continuously. He was the unique thing that was, of the
thousands of innocents whom they assassinated and they burned.
There daily and if the smoke could, to speak and to count, the wind would be
stopped and the stars in the firmament would be extinguished - there is one long
row of people bent, shutdown on the snow, congealed; they wait for the selection
that will mark its destiny, handled with the whip of a Nazi official with
assassin face.
Right-left - right-left. And the left increases, enormously, because in the gas
chambers the tins of the Zyklon-B wait for them, patiently.
But finally the few survivors rise of between ashes;
it is that to the black smoke, the breezes took to it. To only it reduces me to
salute to all, convinced that these important events, they help to spread the
truth, and to fight against all type of discrimination, xenophobia, racism and
anti-semitism.
Thank you very much
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There have been many books written by
Holocaust survivors, but The Seventh Miracle by
Jorge
I. Klainman,
translated by Kal Wagenheim, is one of the best I have ever read ($16.99, plus
$3.49, xlibris, available from Mr. Wagenheim, 52 Maple Avenue, Maplewood, NJ
07040 or through
www.xlibris.com/bookstore.)
In the winter of 1943, a
15-year-old Jewish boy stands naked at the edge of a deep ditch in a
concentration camp. Ukrainian guards with machine guns wait for the command to
kill him and others. More than a
half-century later,
Klainman
has told the story of his miraculous survival and it is a tribute to the
resiliency of the human spirit. Between the day when
Klainman,
then 19, stood at a railroad station in Buenos Aires to begin a new life and the
age of 68, he had built a wall around the memories of those years of horror. As
he relates, "six miracles occurred and saved my life. The seventh was my being
able to write the story after so much time." This is, however, an unflinching
story of the horror visited upon the author and six million Jews of his era. You
will wonder how such evil could have occurred and then you will think of today’s
headlines from Israel where teenagers, like
Klainman
was, are murdered for the crime of being Jewish. For an extraordinary
experience, you should read this
memoir.
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Elizabeth Azarzar Patricia Sachs Daniel Karpinski Marlene Glanzman Abraham Peck Israel Ganir Izchak Schwartz Eyal Szafran Brandi Adams Jaime Bruni Steven Libin |
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