Israeli Soldier Oren Shares Gaza Story

Published On Friday, February 17, 2006 5:47 AM

By SHIFRA B. MINCER

Crimson Staff Writer

Six months ago, Israeli Army officer Michael B. Oren was breaking into a Gaza synagogue with a sledgehammer. At Emerson Hall last night, Oren, who is also a historian and a visiting lecturer at Harvard this spring, recounted the traumatic experience of dismantling Jewish settlements during the Gaza disengagement.

The Gaza is a narrow strip on the eastern coast of the Mediterranean Sea that—from 1967 until last August—was controlled by Israeli forces.

But last August, Israel withdrew its troops from the Gaza and removed approximately 8,000 Jewish settlers from the territory.

And last night, Oren transported a room of 60 Harvard students back to the thick of the Gaza conflict.

"It is Aug. 19, 2005, and 500 Israeli soldiers, all from elite units, are lined up in full battle formation on a road outside Netzer Hazani," Oren said, referring to a small Jewish settlement that was situated in the northeast corner of Gaza.

"There is smoke in the air, it’s 110 degrees," he said, beginning a dramatic description of an operation that resembled a battle scene of an Arab-Israeli war.

Except this time, it was Jew versus Jew.

Oren said of the settlers: "Their rabbis told then that God would send a miracle at the last minute. We walked into houses where people were eating lunch. They hadn’t packed a tea cup. We had to sit and talk with them for hours."

At a second settlement, Bedolach, in the southeastern section of Gaza, Oren said that he and his fellow soldiers broke through synagogue walls, finding 100 men, women and children "on the floor, screaming in agony."

According to Oren, he and his fellow soldiers were shell-shocked by the scene. "I saw soldiers go down as if they had been hit by bullets. There were settlers helping soldiers to their feet. Everyone was crying hysterically," he said.

Oren explained that the Gaza disengagement was painful, but that—in his opinion—it allowed Israel to gain worldwide recognition as a country willing to compromise.

"Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza greatly increased Israel’s level of support internationally," he said. "The support for Israel among Americans is now higher than ever before."

"The Gaza disengagement, with all the trauma that it involved, will be the precedent for the future. This is an exquisitely painful process, but I think that a solid majority at least understood that this was unavoidable," Oren said.

"The paradigm for Israel has been to capture a territory and then negotiate with an Arab country to recognize its existence," he said.

But according to Oren, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has "changed the paradigm."

"Yes, we are willing to negotiate with a Palestinian leadership if it wants a stable and permanent two state solution. If not, we will withdraw unilaterally," Oren said.

Oren’s account of the Gaza disengagement prompted questions and criticisms from Arab students in the audience.

"I wish I could hear him say more about the Palestinian side," said Divinity School student Hayfa M. Abdul Jaber, a Palestinian who was born and raised in Kuwait and who is now enrolled in one of Oren’s courses.

Huda Abuarquob, a resident of the West Bank city of Hebron and a master’s student at Eastern Mennonite University in Virginia, said she recognized that the disengagement was "heartbreaking" from Israelis’ perspective. But, she said, "it’s trauma from all sides."

Meanwhile, Oren’s talk garnered rave reviews from members of Harvard Students for Israel (HSI), which sponsored the event.

HSI President Amy M. Zelcer ’07 said that Oren’s semester on campus is "a fantastic opportunity for HSI and for students in general"—especially considering what she says is Harvard’s lack of Middle East experts on its faculty.

Oren’s 2002 book, "Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East," was a New York Times best-seller and won the Los Angeles Times Book Award for History.

—Staff writer Shifra B. Mincer can be reached at smincer@fas.harvard.edu.

Bush gives $ 10 billion to Israel

Not only did the Bush administration dash neoconservative hopes by leaving Saddam in place, but its proposed "New World Order," as implemented by Secretary of State James Baker, conflicted with neoconservative/Israeli goals, being oriented toward placating the Arab coalition that supported the war. That entailed an effort to curb Israeli control of her occupied territories. The Bush administration demanded that Israel halt the construction of new settlements in the occupied territories as a condition for receiving $10 billion in U.S. loan guarantees for Israel's resettlement of hundreds of thousands of immigrants from the former Soviet Union. Although Bush would cave in to American pro-Zionist pressure just prior to the November 1992 election, his resistance disaffected many neocons, causing some, such as Safire, to back Bill Clinton in the 1992 election. [13]

$ 2.2 billion

July 28, 2005

JERUSALEM Israel is asking the United States for $2.2 billion in additional aid to help pay for its upcoming withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank, the Israeli deputy prime minister, Shimon Peres, said Monday.

Three news outlets in two days misreported the amount of aid Israel received from the U.S. to help compensate for damage caused by Iraqi missiles during the Gulf War. Each claimed Israel received $3 billion, whereas the country actually received $650 million. Thus far, only one of the outlets has corrected the error

Referring to Israel's reported request for American aid to pay for the relocating of settlers and military bases in the Gaza Strip, Reuters reporter Dan Williams wrote:

The Gaza plan funding could be the biggest U.S. aid package to Israel since 1992, when Washington paid $3 billion to make up for damage sustained from Iraqi missile salvoes in the Gulf war. ("Israel seeks $2.2 billion from U.S. for Gaza pullout," 7/11/05)

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Bernie is the President and Director of Harvard Hillel. His life-work is devoted to fostering interaction between diverse kinds of Jews; between different generations; and between the academy and the community at large. His educational career focuses on making the classical sources of Judaism accessible and relevant, on leadership education, and on the exploration of Jewish identity in Israel. He received his B.A. in literature from Wesleyan University, an M.A. in contemporary Jewish thought from Brandeis University, and a Ph.D. in Jewish philosophy from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. His doctorate explores the relationship between the philosophy of Maimonides and modern Jewish thought.

Bernie lived in Jerusalem for thirteen years during which time he directed the Wesleyan University Israel Program, was a founding member and served for many years on the faculty of the Pardes Institute of Jewish Studies, taught at the Hebrew University, and was a founding Fellow of the Shalom Hartman Institute.

At Harvard, he has served on many faculty committees including: the FAS Committee on Public Service; the Seminar for the Study of Values in Public Life; and the Leadership Roundtable of the Kennedy School of Government, where he also collaborated in the development and teaching of courses in leadership education. He has been a speaker at the distinguished Paul Tillich Lecture Series, Chaplain of the Day at Harvard Commencement, and served on the executive committee and as Chairman of University Programs of Harvard-Radcliffe United Ministries.

Within the Jewish community, he has served on the faculty of the Wexner Heritage Foundation since 1986, as Education Director for the Nesyia Institute, founded the Department of Judaica at the JCC of Cleveland, taught for the Curriculum Initiative of the Samuel Bronfman Foundation and for the Combined Jewish Philanthropies of Boston. He has lectured on a wide-range of Jewish topics throughout the United States, Israel, and the former Soviet Union. One of the leading Jewish educators and teachers of Judaism in this country, he received the Benjamin J. Shevach Award for Distinguished Leadership in Jewish Education, the most prestigious award conferred by the Boston Hebrew College.

He and his wife Roz have two children, Adena and Avi ’02.

Israelis In the Ivy League

Some facts on Jews serving in US wars

Civil war

Recounted in the Encyclopedia Judaica, proudly published in Jerusalem, were the deaths of 500 Jews out of 150,000 Jews living in America during the Civil War. 1 This contribution was pridefully remembered in 1992 in the Jewish Veteran, the newspaper of the Jewish War Veterans.2 This benefaction computed to one Jew out of three hundred Jews dying in the war, or a little over three per thousand. From a population of a about 32 million in the United States in 1860 a total approaching 625,000 Americans died, or almost 20 per thousand. Other Americans died six times more frequently than Jews. In 1996 the Jewish War Veterans boasted they were the oldest veteran group in the United States. They had been formed in 1896 to refute the allegation that Jews ducked service in the Civil War.

WW1

The Jewish War Records Board gave the number of Jews dying at 3500. Americans not black or Jewish died at a rate some 40% higher than Jews. Some may state that ethnic Russians comprised a significant part of those born in Russia and should lower the share for Jews. But ethnic Russians simply did not come to the United States in significant numbers. The salient fact that Jews had been awarded six Medals of Honor out of 120 awarded was noted by Jewish War Records Board. These medals were more than would have been expected by pure chance.

WW 2

With rising affluence Jews in spite of the personal insult and threat of Nazi anti-Semitism did not fight as much as their fellow countrymen in World War II. In two volumes the Jewish National Welfare Board celebrated their participation in World War II under the auspicious title American Jews in World War II.5 As of July 1, 1946 the board had identified 8000 Jews as having died in combat. 408306 Americans died in WW11 Jews would receive one (later revised to two) Medals of Honor out of over 430 awarded.6 If they had fought in the same proportion as their countrymen, they would have received about 18 medals. Years later the Anti-Defamation League would shriek about discrimination toward one Jew by the American army even when the man had transparently lied about his exploits.

Vietnam

There were 58,000 dead and a maximum of 269 dead jews. . Vietnam War dead used data in the Southeast Asia Combat Area Casualties File in the National Archives and concluded after a computer count that 269 Jews died in that conflict 8 Later this information was discreetly published on the internet and not publicized.9 Other Americans died at a rate more than six times as much as Jews.

Beirut

Almost as an anecdote the Beirut bombing in 1983 revealed that not one of the 220 Marines killed was a Jew.12 Maury Maverick, who uncovered that statistic, had found while representing conscientious objectors during the war in Vietnam that the underprivileged had suffered way out of proportion to their numbers.

Desert Storm

For the war against Iraq the Jewish Welfare Board estimated out of about 520,000 American troops in the Gulf only 500 were Jews. 13 If Jews had been there in proportion to their numbers, almost 13,000, some 25 times the number present, would have been in uniform. Mr. Maverick found that not one of the 386 Americans who died was a Jew.14 Later in the pages of the New York Times there was an attempt to revise the total of Jews present in the war zone upward as had been done in previous wars to bolster the image of Jews.15

British Jews in WW 2

Participation by Jews in that war was lower than their countrymen who died at two to three times the Jewish rate. 17 The determined reader will confirm these observations for himself. Lack of full participation in wars by Jews has not been confined to the United States. In both World War I Germany and World War II America non-Jews died a rate more than 50 percent greater than their fellow Jewish citizenry.

Jews compiled the data

Excepting the data on the Vietnam War, the dead of the Gulf War and the Beirut bombing, all data were taken from sources compiled by Jews and meant to be friendly to them. For World Wars I and II Jews were permitted to see official American records to determine who was a Jew and who was not. If done by non-Jews, this appraisal would be considered a racist act. American Jews have shirked military duty with its obligations and hazards and have insolently lied about it. They have subordinated American interests to those of Israel.

      TABLE 1     ARMED FORCES RELIGIOUS DEMOGRAPHICS

        FAITH GROUP/                             AIR         MARINE
        SERVICE            ARMY       NAVY       FORCE       CORPS       DoD
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        PROTESTANT
        Specified
         Protestant       351,721    174,540    260,294      82,657      869,212
        Protestant,
         No Pref.          42,893     30,301     46,742      12,569      132,505
        Protestant,
         Other             27,473     14,517      9,058       2,602       53,650
        Christian,
         No Pref.          20,491      5,630     21,507       6,109       53,737
        Christian
         Scientist          3,252        932        668         391        5,243
        Jehovah's
         Witness              395        216        263         102          976
        Latter-day
         Saints             8,150      4,312      9,040       2,198       23,700
        Seventh-day
         Adventist          2,176      1,106      1,416         406        5,104
        TOTALS            456,551    231,554    348,988     107,034    1,144,127
        % OF SERVICE        58.85      46.27      58.94       52.89        55.25
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        ROMAN
        CATHOLIC          181,506    135,530    156,128      68,729      536,883
        % of Service        23.39      27.08      26.36       31.49        25.92
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        EAS. ORTHODOX         730        386        905         187        2,208
        % of Service          .09        .07        .15         .09          .10
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        JEWISH              2,728      1,669      2,825         548        7,770
       % of Service          .35        .33        .47         .27          .37
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        OTHER
         Buddhist           1,042        257      1,030         181        2,510
         Hindu                 87         36        136          37          296
         Muslim             1,330        361        591         207        2,489
        TOTALS              2,459        654      1,757         425        5,295
        % of Service          .31        .13        .29         .21          .25
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        UNDETERMINED
         Other Religions   4,758       2,462      2,882       1,079        1,181
         No Religious
          Preference      84,966      76,172     70,940      19,110      251,188
         Atheist-No
          Pref.Recorded      163         150      1,065         120        1,498
         Unknown-No
          Pref.Recorded   41,815      52,154      6,862      10,112      110,993
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        TOTALS           131,702     130,638     81,749      30,421      374,880
        % of Service       16.97       26.10      13.80       15.03        18.10
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        GRAND TOTAL      775,676     500,431    592,089     202,344    2,070,880

Today just over 1,300 chaplains minister to the slightly fewer than 500,000 active-duty Army troops. The vast majority of chaplains are Christians--1,183 are Protestant, 95 Catholic and eight Orthodox. In addition, the Army has nine Jewish and seven Muslim chaplains. That roughly mirrors the troops themselves, 54% of whom list themselves as Protestant and 21% as Catholic. Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists combined amount to less than 1%, with 24% of soldiers listing either some other religion or no religious preference.

Some interesting stats on Jews in Vietnam

Breakdown of Vietnam dead

................ % of USA population .................Vietnam Dead %

Protestant…...….. 136010000 ………(67.0) …. 37483 …….(64.4)
Catholic………….. 50750000 ……...(25.0) ….. 16806……. (28.9)
Jewish ……………....6090000….….. (3.0) …… 269……….. (0.4)
Other…………….. ...5400000…….. (2.6)..…… 262 ………..(0.4)
None/Unknown…...…4750000…….. ……........ 3332 ……….(5.7)

If we use the religious preference percentages we can see that Catholics were over-represented -almost 29.0% against a natl preference of 25% In the genl population, while Protestants were slightly under-represented- 64.4 of the V'nam casualties against a natl preference of 67.0%. The low Jewish representation was probably due, in large part, to the high rate of under-graduate & post-graduate matriculation among young Jewish males, estimated at 2 to 3 times that of Protestant & Catholic 17-24 year olds nationwide.

Basic Truth ---

Jews make up .37% of the army today and they aren't front line positions. Jewish doctors were issueing deferments for jewish kids in Vietnam and WW 2.

Portraying Jewish crosses in graveyards by Spielberg or every other soldier as being Jewish is a insult to Real Soldiers.

Book summary

Stolen Valor is a detailed but incomplete study of phonies and "wannabe" veterans of the Vietnam War, a sad, possibly deadly, book that requires a considerable investment in time, patience, and temper. Not an academic book per se, Burkett does a excellent job in identifying phonies, some of whom are print and television celebrities we know.

Incidentally, recently published statistics from the Vietnam war provide powerful support for the suspicion which always has existed that, though Jews may manipulate the patriotic feelings of the rest of us, they themselves retain their own Jewish patriotism and do not share our patriotism. If one counts Stars of David in military cemeteries from the Second World War, one finds them conspicuously underrepresented in the fields of crosses.

In a book published just last year, Stolen Valor, a study of the Vietnam war and its veterans, B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley cite a 1992 study of Department of Defense records by Massachusetts Institute of Technology Professor Arnold Barnett and West Point's Captain Timothy Stanley which provided much more precise data on the matter of Jewish patriotism.

Draft age Jews

Draft-age Jews in America, it turns out, suffered losses in Vietnam at a rate less than one fifth their proportion of the population. This was not simply a matter of rich boys avoiding service while poor boys got killed: young White men -- that is, White Gentiles -- from high-income families suffered approximately the same overall casualty rate as low-income Whites. Although some high-income Whites avoided the draft as university students, Whites from high-income families made up most of the officer corps, which suffered a disproportionately high casualty rate, and the average death rate for high-income Whites was nearly the same as for low-income Whites.

For Jews, however, the difference is striking: making up slightly over 2.5 per cent of the population, Jews accounted for only 0.46 per cent of the GIs killed in Vietnam. This remarkable difference reflects a remarkable difference in attitudes between Jews and Whites.

The authors show killers who have fooled the most astute prosecutors and gotten away with murder, phony heroes who have become the object of award-winning documentaries on national network television, and liars and fabricators who have flooded major publishing houses with false tales of heroism which have become best-selling biographies.

Stolen Valor provides pages and pages of examples of bogus vets bilking taxpayers out of billions of dollars in false claims for "injuries," sustained in Vietnam. In many cases, these "vets" never served in Vietnam and in some cases, never served in the military at all!

Then there are vile miscreants like Louis Paul Rolofson Jr., who passed himself off as a Vietnam Green Beret in order to gain access to, and molest, young boys. Thanks, in large measure, to Burkett’s research exposing Rolofson’s bogus military claims, the pervert faker was convicted of aggravated criminal assault and sentenced to 18 years in prison.

Jewish Radical Robert Mueller

Stolen Valor is worth its price if only for its chapter exposing the Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) the left-wing group that purports to represent the men and women who served in Vietnam. The VVA’s roots trace back to the radical Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), which reliably retailed the Marxist line on most issues and railed against U.S. military and foreign policies. Robert O. Muller, one of the top VVAW activists, later formed the VVA, and with the help of Senator John Kerry (one of his VVAW comrades) obtained a federal charter for his new group.

Muller was soon raising money from the likes of Jane Fonda, Ed Asner, Bruce Springsteen, and porn peddler Bob Guccione (Penthouse). In 1981 Muller led a VVA delegation to Vietnam where he provided the Communist government with a bonanza of propaganda victories. He placed a wreath on the tomb of Ho Chi Minh and then gushed his admiration for the Communist butcher. Muller concluded his pilgrimage with an appeal for the U.S. government to shower Hanoi with foreign aid.

Jewish draft dodgers - Jerry Rubin and Ira Einhorn

David Goff, former president of a VVA chapter in Morrisville, N.Y. near Syracuse, is another imposter that Burkett uncovered. Goff, who claimed combat experience in Vietnam, had been treated for PTSD and had counseled troubled vets. He had belatedly obtained some of the military's highest awards for valor, including the Distinguished Service Cross, second only to the Medal of Honor. Goff had even persuaded Rep. James Walsh (R., N.Y.) to pin on these medals during an April 1989 ceremony for combat vets. Goff was called a "hero" by the Syracuse Herald American.

To Burkett, however, the story of postwar trouble with depression, alcohol, domestic problems and PTSD struck a familiar tone. So did Goff's claim of being a CIA assassin. Goff's recovery from combat trauma was indeed inspiring, but there was a problem. His service record revealed he had been a clerk in Okinawa and had never set foot in Vietnam.

Yet when Burkett revealed Goff's deception to the Herald American, the newspaper stood by its story, though it, too, had by then obtained Goff's offical record. Alerted to Goff's fraud, Walsh has now called for a criminal investigation

90% of the people that fled to Canada in the 1970 were jews

http://www.stolenvalor.com/

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/1/15/205545.shtml
http://www.miafacts.org/stolenvalor.htm

http://www.natvan.com/pub/99/050899.txt

http://www.homeofheroes.com/verify/

http://www.vhfcn.org/stolenvalor.htm

Oil Costs

The real cost of Israel

In 1973 the Jews were getting their asses kicked. Nixon airlifted F-4 Phantoms and pilots to the Jews - The arabs said " Oil is now $ 35 a barrel ".

Nixon sent US pilots and Phantoms in 1973

The cost of israel

The USA uses 20 million barrels of oil a day and our backing of the 1973 Jewish war resulted in a increase of $ 25 a barrel.

Here are the figures

20 Mil Barrels
x 365 days

7,300 Mil Barrels
x $ 25
===============
$ 1.825 Trillion a year

This is why cars cost $ 30,000 and a husband and wife both work.

The jews don't cost $ 3 bill a year.

Just in the oil price they cost you $ 1.825 Trillion ANNUALLY

Another Jewish war hero

Joe Mauk – Vietnam Green Beret

Joe Mauk wears the green beret of the Army's elite Special Forces and a uniform bedecked with ribbons and medals for bravery.

He talks about his time in Vietnam, his 11 purple hearts for wounds, his Silver and Bronze stars for valor, and his captivity as a prisoner of war for nearly 2 1/2 years.

His stories have stirred awe in Colorado schoolchildren and brought tears to the eyes of adults at his many speaking engagements. And when the Vietnam Memorial "Traveling Wall" came to the Denver area July 13-15, "Master Sgt." Mauk was invited as the keynote speaker.

Another ' Lying Yhid '...He wasn't in Vietnam

http://www.phonyveterans.com/Mauk.html

http://www.corax.org/revisionism/documents/20010822fakevets.html