Summary

Fisk believes completely in the Holocaust - is totally aghast that anyone would believe Jews want to run the world - doesn't believe Hamas and Mossad are connected and can't fathom how anyone thinks the Jews were behind 9/11.





Fisk talks to an Arab at a party

ARAB: --- "Well if you ask me, Hitler didn't finish the job", and my mouth dropped open and I said,

FISK: ---- What did you say? Did you realize how evil that is? How can you say such a thing? Do you know what happened?"

"Well", he said, "do you know it was six million Jews?"

I said, "Yes it was, because I have been to Auschwitz , I've been to Treblinka." I told him, I said, "Look, I've been to ash pits in, in behind Auschwitz , at Birkenau. It is all true!" "

And he listened to me and he clearly was unhappy, and I said it is simply evil, wrong, immoral to say that, it is a total denial of the truth of history, and it is a total denial of yourself as a human being, you're a bloody doctor, I said . But there it was and I'd have to say in fairness or in balance rather than fairness that I've heard some pretty terrible things said about the Arabs by Israelis.



Fisk on the Protocols of Zion

PA: Twenty years in Beirut , has the Protocols been around throughout that time or were you observing a recent revival?

RF: No, 27 years in Beirut actually, and I can remember in 1977 when I'd already been there a year going into Ontimes bookshop in Hamra Street, a respectable bookshop which stocked , you know, French literature, American history, and so on, and finding a white-covered edition of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which is of course a Tsarist forgery of grotesque proportions, which talks of Jews trying to take over the world, of child cannibalism, and so on, a revolting text which is known throughout the world by every decent scholar to be a total forgery and antisemitic tract, and there it was published in Damascus, actually printed in Damascus, on sale in Beirut, and in fact published by a printing house which was then run by the still extant and present Minister of Defence in Syria, and this continued on sale for four or five years , and then it disappeared.



Fisk on Hamas“


Only a year later, when Arafat was beginning to cause some doubts among the Israelis, a bit late in the day, the Israelis started talking to a religious group called Hamas and had some talks with them between the Israeli army and Hamas leadership.
Indeed, while Arafat had been their enemy the Israelis were encouraging Hamas to build mosques in Gaza as a balance against the nationalism of the PLO whom they regarded as the greatest terrorists, you know, ever



Fisk on 9/11


Yea, look, there is a whole series of what I call 'slidy-slidy explanations' from Muslims, not just the antisemitic one of well, you know this was part of a Jewish plot.


This is bound up, by the way, with a story that unfortunately was correct, which is that some Israeli citizens were arrested after September 11, two or three of them it seems were taking pictures of the World Trade Centre and appeared to be expressing their appreciation of what had happened though that might be a misinterpretation.


http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Dissenters/adams002.htm

Fisk quotes


I am based as Middle East correspondent of The Independent. I
have read extensively about and, occasionally, researched the Jewish
Holocaust -- my own book about the Lebanese war, Pity the Nation, begins
in Auschwitz, where I found frozen lakes filled with the powdered bones of
the dead from the ashpits of Birkenau.

I spend hours telling Arabs that they must accept and acknowledge the
facts of the Jewish Holocaust, but if we are now to regard this as a
specifically European crime, as "our" crime, I have few arguments left.

The Arabs can say it is none of their business

Fisk source

 

Mossad_Detonates_bomb_and Fisk insinuates it's marines

12/17/2003 – 17 people were killed on Wednesday when the Mossad detonated a massive truck bomb in downtown Iraq. The purpose was to disrupt fuel supplies for independent Iraqis. The US will restrict independent oil distributors.

US authorities are declaring it - An explosion caused by a traffic accident


You might be interested to read this from Robert Fiske...
Quote:

Thus has "liberation" and "democracy" arrived in Samarra. And the fantasy continues. Just a day earlier, the Americans announced that after an "investigation"--the oddest in recent history, one has to say--they had concluded that the truck bombing in Baghdad which killed 16 innocent civilians on Wednesday morning, was a "traffic accident".

They said a petrol tanker had exploded during a collision with a car, even though the lorry was pulling no tanker, even though the explosion blasted pieces of metal almost 600ft from the scene and that the American troops who first arrived there had discovered part of the detonating device: a grenade which they showed to me themselves.

 

 


 As I have as yet not read Mein Kampf nor The Protocols of Zion, and as Robert Fisk has mentioned these two books in connection with his defence of the use of the word 'antisemite' as a slanderous concept, and as he is a firm believer in the 'Holocaust' dogma (6 million/ state extermination program/gas chambers), I think I shall soon have to delve deeply into at least Mein Kampf.

The Protocols appears to me to be something not too interesting, except this oft-repeated claim by Fisk and anyone else who feel badly about its existence, that it is a forgery.

 

Finally, Fisk's attitude towards Germans is one of hatred - and he is now roaming around the Arabic-speaking world wailing against Israel, the Zionist Israel, and attempting to drum up support for 'the Jews' by using the 'Holocaust' dogma to elicit sympathy and understanding from among the Arabic-speaking peoples of the Middle East.

Somewhere all this does not make sense to me, and it appears there is some emotional breakdown within Fisk's mental framework that is still in a stage of 'becoming'- !


Fisk's_Attitude_at_Hoebieki

The Man Who Would Testify Against Sharon Is Blown Up.
Is This Another Targeted Killing?
by Robert Fisk
 The Independent
January 24, 2002

 

 

Who on earth would want to murder the key witness for the prosecution in a war crimes indictment against the Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon?

Why would anyone want to car-bomb the former Lebanese Phalangist militia leader and government minister Elie Hobeika in Beirut – less than two days after he agreed to give evidence against Mr Sharon in a Belgian court, which may try the Israeli leader for the murder of up to 1,700 Palestinian civilians in the Sabra and Chatila refugee camps in September, 1982?

Elie Hobeika, of course, will not be giving evidence against Mr Sharon. His body – in bits, some bones blackened by fire – were all that remained of Lebanon's most hated man yesterday, scattered 50 metres from his burning Range Rover.

 

Call it a "targeted killing"; which, by chance, is how the Israelis describe their death squad execution of Palestinian militants in the West Bank and Gaza. The man who led his murderers into the Palestinian camps on Israel's orders 19 years ago was dead – to the jubilation of millions of Palestinians. "Our blood was not in vain," they screamed yesterday in the refugee camp of Bourj el-Barajneh.

When I reached the cramped Beirut Christian suburb of Hazmiyeh a few minutes later, all that was left was Hobeika's smouldering, shattered Range Rover, a fiercely burning Mercedes – in which the bomb had been placed – and carbonised skeletons.

It needed at least four men to assassinate Hobeika – one outside his home 100 metres away to alert the bombers, another to have guarded the car bomb, two more to have "line of sight" and press the detonation switch.

Within hours, Belgian lawyers seeking to indict Mr Sharon – the Israeli defence had only finished giving its reasons for opposing a trial on Wednesday – expressed their "profound shock" at Hobeika's murder.

"Mr Hobeika had several times expressed his wish to assist the Belgian inquiry on the massacres at Sabra and Chatila," a statement from the lawyers said. "His determination to do so was reported widely on the eve of his assassination. The elimination of the key protagonist who offered to assist with the inquiry is an obvious attempt to undermine our case."

In this area of Christian east Beirut, Hizbollah militia men or Syrian agents would have a hard task to set up such a murderous ambush. Which was why I couldn't find a single Lebanese who didn't believe Israel was behind the killing. "Just watch who gets murdered next," a policeman muttered. "Relatives will want revenge – and we'll be able to find out who the murderers were."

Elie Hoebieki

Less than two days before the killing, at 5pm on Tuesday, to be exact, Hobeika had met two Belgian senators, Josy Dubie and Vincent van Quickenborne, in east Beirut, agreeing to be a witness at any trial for the Sabra and Chatila massacre. The meeting was supposed to be secret: Hobeika reportedly told the Belgians he had been threatened with death, but it was leaked to the Lebanese press. This may have been Hobeika's death certificate.

Just before 10am yesterday, he was driving his blue Range Rover from his home on Marroukoz Street with his three bodyguards, Dmitri Ajram, Walid Zein and Faris Suedan, when a white Mercedes 280 – parked in a basement garage level with the road – blew up. An estimated 100 kilos of explosives blasted Hobeika's vehicle across the narrow highway, killing all four men instantly.

Arshalouis Katchadourian, an Armenian woman living across the road, ran to her window to see if her grandmother Verikine had survived in her apartment above the car bomb. "First I heard the explosion," she said. "Then I saw a fireball and so much smoke. But there was a man with a Kalashnikov firing lots of bullets. I thought 'someone is going to kill him'. But who was he?" Nobody knows.

Charbel Moussalem, whose sister was wounded on his apartment balcony, says he saw only smoke and fire enveloping the building above the car bomb. "Elie Hobeika often drove down this road to his office," he said. "Not every day. But we knew him." So did the murderers.

A lesson from the Holocaust for us all

This account fills one with rage that anyone could deny the reality of the Jewish genocide

Robert Fisk - 01 April 2006

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article355019.ece

http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk04062006.html

At a second-hand book stall in the Rue Monsieur le Prince in Paris a few days ago, I came across the second volume of Victor Klemperer's diaries. The first volume, recounting his relentless, horrifying degradation as a German Jew in the first eight years of Hitler's rule--from 1933 to 1941--I had bought in Pakistan just before America's 2001 bombardment of Afghanistan.

It was a strange experience--while sipping tea amid the relics of the Raj, roses struggling across the lawn beside me, an old British military cemetery at the end of the road--to read of Klemperer's efforts to survive in Dresden with his wife Eva as the Nazis closed in on his Jewish neighbours. Even more intriguing was to find that the infinitely heroic Klemperer, a cousin of the great conductor, showed great compassion for the Palestinian Arabs of the 1930s who feared that they would lose their homeland to a Jewish state.

"I cannot help myself," Klemperer writes on 2 November 1933, nine months after Hitler became Chancellor of Germany. "I sympathise with the Arabs who are in revolt (in Palestine), whose land is being 'bought'. A Red Indian fate, says Eva."

Even more devastating is Klemperer's critique of Zionism--which he does not ameliorate even after Hitler's Holocaust of the Jews of Europe begins. "To me," he writes in June of 1934, "the Zionists, who want to go back to the Jewish state of AD70 ... are just as offensive as the Nazis. With their nosing after blood, their ancient 'cultural roots', their partly canting, partly obtuse winding back of the world they are altogether a match for the National Socialists..."

Yet Klemperer's day-by-day account of the Holocaust, the cruelty of the local Dresden Gestapo, the suicide of Jews as they are ordered to join the transports east, his early knowledge of Auschwitz--Klemperer got word of this most infamous of extermination camps as early as March 1942, although he did not realise the scale of the mass murders there until the closing months of the war--fill one with rage that anyone could still deny the reality of the Jewish genocide.

Reading these diaries as the RER train takes me out to Charles de Gaulle airport--through the 1930s art deco architecture of Drancy station where French Jews were taken by their own police force before transportation to Auschwitz--I wish President Ahmadinejad of Iran could travel with me.

For Ahmadinejad it was who called the Jewish Holocaust a "myth", who ostentatiously called for a conference--in Tehran, of course--to find out the truth about the genocide of six million Jews, which any sane historian acknowledges to be one of the terrible realities of the 20th century, along, of course, with the Holocaust of one and a half million Armenians in 1915.

The best reply to Ahmadinejad's childish nonsense came from ex-president Khatami of Iran, the only honourable Middle East leader of our time, whose refusal to countenance violence by his own supporters inevitably and sadly led to the demise of his "civil society" at the hands of more ruthless clerical opponents. "The death of even one Jew is a crime," Khatami said, thus destroying in one sentence the lie that his successor was trying to propagate.

Indeed, his words symbolised something more important: that the importance and the evil of the Holocaust do not depend on the Jewish identity of the victims. The awesome, wickedness of the Holocaust lies in the fact that the victims were human beings--just like you and me.

How do we then persuade the Muslims of the Middle East of this simple truth? I thought that the letter which the head of the Iranian Jewish Committee, Haroun Yashayaie, wrote to Ahmadinejad provided part of the answer. "The Holocaust is not a myth any more than the genocide imposed by Saddam (Hussein) on Halabja or the massacre by (Ariel) Sharon of Palestinians and Lebanese in the camps of Sabra and Chatila," Yashayaie--who represents Iran's 25,000 Jews--said.

Note here how there is no attempt to enumerate the comparisons. Six million murdered Jews is a numerically far greater crime than the thousands of Kurds gassed at Halabja or the 1,700 Palestinians murdered by Israel's Lebanese Phalangist allies at Sabra and Chatila in 1982. But Yashayaie's letter was drawing a different kind of parallel: the pain that the denial of history causes to the survivors.

I have heard Israelis deny their army's involvement in the Sabra and Chatila massacres--despite Israel's own official enquiry which proved that Ariel Sharon sent the murderers into the camps--and I remember how the CIA initially urged US embassies o blame Iran for the gassings at Halabja.

Indeed, it is easy to find examples of one of the most egregious lies uttered against the 750,000 Palestinians who fled their land in 1948: that they were ordered by Arab radio stations to flee their homes until the Jews had been "driven into the sea"--when they would return to take back their property. Israeli academic researchers have themselves proved that no such radio broadcasts were ever made, that the Palestinians fled--victims of what we would today call ethnic cleansing--after a series of massacres by Israeli forces, especially in the village of Deir Yassin, just outside Jerusalem.

So what is there to learn from the second volume of Klemperer's diaries? Just after he received word from the Gestapo that he and Eva were to be transported east to their deaths, the RAF raided Dresden and, amid the tens of thousands of civilians which the February 1945 firestorm consumed, the Gestapo archives also went up in flames. All record of the Klemperers' existence was turned to ash, like the Jews who preceded them to Auschwitz. So the couple took off their Jewish stars and wandered Germany as refugees without papers until they found salvation after the Nazi surrender.

Just before their rescue, they showed compassion to three distraught German soldiers who were lost in the forests of their homeland. And even during their worst ordeals, as they waited for the doorbell to ring and the Gestapo to arrive to search their Dresden home and notify them of their fate, Klemperer was able to write in his diary a sentence which every journalist and historian should learn by heart: "There is no remedy against the truth of language."

 Hariri_Fisk

And, of course, you can also realize that if people can reach out and kill someone like Gibron Tueni, they can also reach out and kill U.N. officials, too, and their translators and their witnesses. So, people are operating and working here in a very dangerous environment. When I named the first four suspects in the Lebanese security forces, men who were clearly working for Syria, into Hariri's murder, a general on the listening department, the ecouteur department of the Amn al-’Am, the security services in Lebanon, called General Tfayleh, immediately put a tap on my home phone, the one you are talking on now, 37615. And I immediately wrote a story in my newspaper saying he put a tap on the phone. But, you know, this is the degree to which we live in this country now, that, you know, the moment you get close to the people who obviously were involved in murdering Hariri, you are listened to and watched, and in this part of the Middle East, that's obviously something you want to be careful of.