Rev:  April  6/99

Here is a list of  recommended tactics which can be
used when dealing with skeptics or psychiatrists and
other mental health officials:

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From:             raven1@nas.net
Subject:          The right words
BCC to:           @ALLVIC.PML
Date sent:        Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:45:52

Part of our credibility problem is that, almost
without exception, we FIRST approached the
authorities with a very fragmented story, describing
extremely unusual occurrences, which seemed to the
listener as the ravings of a lunatic.

In most cases we ourselves had no idea there was a
spook organization, then or ever.

I'm in the long process of moving, to follow my job
to a new city.  The need is apparent to have ready
a new, very much shorter "story" for the new faces
I will encounter.  Doctor, lawyer, maybe police,
maybe neighbours.

The goal is a short, portable "story" that takes
only a minute to tell, and most importantly leaves
the listener with no way to INTELLIGENTLY
shoot down the story.

Here's what I've come up with so far:

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  LISTENER:  What's the problem?

  TARGET: I am an MKULTRA victim.  MKULTRA is an
  international program of psychological experimentation
  which has been conducted since the 1950s.  MKULTRA
  uses involuntary test subjects, sometimes incarcerated,
  sometimes in the victim's home and community.

         [Second paragraph where needed]

  The in-home experiments use advanced technology to
  apply stress and then to observe through walls, using
  through-the-wall radar technology.  This is accompanied
  by street harassment and home/work break-ins.

  LISTENER:  A-a-a-a-hhh ... MKULTRA ended twenty
  years ago.

  TARGET:  Oh?  On what DATE did MKULTRA end?
  The Mafia has been exposed too.  Did the Mafia
  end when it was first exposed?  If MKULTRA ended,
  what agency caused it to end?

  (The target can be certain of this stand - no
  MKULTRA perp has ever served a day in jail.)

--------------------------------------------------

What this short dialogue does is quote ONLY
FACTUAL DOCUMENTED INFORMATION, which cannot be
impeached.

The ONLY way the listener can exit without accepting
the factual information is to use a completely
idiotic response like "A-a-a-a-hhh ... you're nuts".

In such a dialogue, it is wisest to AVOID the many
advanced effects, just staying with generalities.

It would be OK to elaborate on the break-and-enter
damage, though - that is physical and factual.

By AVOIDING the technical stuff and amazing details,
you don't give your listener the chance to "explain"
away one incident at the time, which is invalid of
course, as an argument.  One-at-a-time arguments are used
frequently, so avoid them by keeping your experiences
packaged as "MKULTRA", which, by the Mafia analogy,
is absolutely true.  MKULTRA NEVER ENDED.

That is a fact, even though the program code name
may have ended.  Like "Cosa Nostra" vs. the original
"Mafia".

Eleanor
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------- first words to "no evidence" challenge ----------

From:       Self 
To:         raven1@nas.net
Subject:    New "first words" for response to nay-sayers
    
Hi -
   
Some of you may know about the concept of "verbal Judo".
    
This is taught to police, and is not at all what you might
expect.  It is NOT about forcefully barking orders like
"Do it NOW!".
    
Instead, it is UNEXPECTEDLY using very carefully
chosen words spoken in, say, a standoff situation, in 
which the suspect's options and the consequences are
carefully listed.  This has been demonstrated on TV.
    
It is the UNEXPECTEDNESS that is the key to making
it work - the suspect is expecting a shouting match but
is disarmed by this novel, authoritative, low-key method
of verbal tactics.
    
I just had a "go around" with someone claiming to be
our supporter but who constantly harps on the fact
that we "have no evidence."  We all know this is the
number one verbal shot fired at us when we try to get
the authorities, media, or doctors to help.
    
We need a short "first words" answer which they do
not expect and which will disarm that barrier.
    
I'd like to suggest this first-words response to those
who say we have no evidence:
    
     "YOU ARE RIGHT.  THERE IS NO EVIDENCE.
    
     "THE ELECTRONIC DEVICES INHERENTLY
     LEAVE NO EVIDENCE.  IT IS A BUILT-IN
     FEATURE.
    
     "SO HOW IS YOUR AGENCY GOING TO COPE
     WITH NEW ELECTRONIC CRIMES WHERE
     THERE IS NO EVIDENCE?"
    
You can assert that this aspect must be coped with -
to ignore it licenses crimes performed using neuro-
influence technology.
    
You can also state that the task of legislative, legal,
and law enforcment personnel is to find ways to
cope, not to label targetted people as crazy.
    
In the past I've said such things, but with far too much
wordy stuff first.  I recommend that for maximum
"verbal Judo" effect, the words in capital letters above
should be the very first things said in response.
    
Eleanor
============= now the tactics list =====================    

1.  Never allow the skeptics to require YOU to explain
    the motives of your harassers.  If you are held up
    in a situation where there are no witnesses, you
    are not asked to explain the sick personality of
    the robber.  NOR are you told that "because there
    is NO TANGIBLE EVIDENCE, there has been no crime".

    You might reply:  "Easy question.  My harassers
    are the same folks who started in this line of
    work under the MKULTRA programs, and their motives
    haven't changed a bit."

    Or, maybe this:  "National security is so important
    that sacrificing the well-being of a few individuals
    for the good of the many is justified."

2.  Never let them start picking away at harassment
    occurrences in isolation from the others, because
    any single occurrence could be coincidence.  Force
    them to "explain away" ALL the occurrences TAKEN
    TOGETHER, OR NOT AT ALL.

    Here is a bulletin offering a way to handle this:

    One of our more difficult challenges is
    overcoming the natural tendency of nay sayers
    who feel they can "explain" our troubles by
    looking at each different harassment type and
    offering alternate theories.  A day ago I had
    another "it-is-just-poltergeists" explanation
    come to me, triggered by my description of the
    frequent remote physical manipulation effects.

    I'd like to offer here a common sense analogy
    which we can use when dealing with this very
    flawed approach.  We can answer:

    "It's just like a computer image, made up of
    thousands of pixels.

    "If an observer sets up a microscope in front
    of his screen, and looks at every single pixel,
    one at a time, he will not have the slightest
    idea what the image is about.

    "If he finds, say, that 19,221 pixels are
    flesh-coloured, he could declare that the image
    is of a belly dancer, when in fact, it is a
    portrait of George Washington.

    "THAT is how absurd explanations taken out of
    the full context are."

3.  Microwave weapons WERE MADE PUBLIC BY THE MEDIA
    IN THE MID-1960s.  Microwave weapons were being
    used by the Soviets to attack the U.S. embassy
    in Moscow.  After that, there has been a total
    media blackout from government sources to this
    very day.

    Given the scientific progress over the last thirty
    years, there is absolutely no way any responsible
    health official, government official, media reporter,
    or skeptic can possibly argue that they existed in
    the mid-60s but not now.  No way.

4.  Remind your listener/reader that microwave anti-
    personnel weapons canNOT be tested on crash 
    dummies, and LIVE test subjects are required. This
    is different than other classes of weapons.

5.  Put the list of declassified technologies "in their
    face" and KEEP THEM THERE.  Don't EVER let a
    psychiatrist tell you voices in your head must
    indicate mental illness any more!  Voice to skull
    radio transmission is now a de-classified,
    documented reality.

    See unclass.htm

6.  Tell your listener/reader that at least one 
    US PATENT exists for direct transmission of sound
    into the human auditory cortex (a section of the
    brain).  It is # 4,858,612, issued Dec. 19, 1983
    to Philip Stocklin.

7.  Keep your story INEXTRICABLY tied in with the
    CIA & military's programmes like MKULTRA et al.
    When they were exposed by the US Congress in 1977,
    all the intel agencies did were these three 
    simple steps:

    1.  "Retire", en masse, the key employees who
        had worked on the MKULTRA programmes.

    2.  The "retirees" formed "private contractor"
        companies, BEYOND CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT.

    3.  The important projects, like the electronic
        weapons projects, were able to continue
        within these "contractor" companies.

    The MKULTRA pogroms (not programs!) have never
    actually stopped - they continue with in-home
    involuntary testing to this day and hour.

    Perhaps the acronym "EMKULTRA", electronic
    MKULTRA, should come into use to describe the
    current electronic war on innocent citizens.

8.  Remind psychiatrists that:

    - Their training does not qualify them to
      speak authoritatively on electronic weapons
    - They know nothing about CLASSIFIED weapons,
      electronic or otherwise

    Some psychiatrists develop an attitude that
    their medical training means they "know better"
    than their patients on ALL SUBJECTS.  This is
    not true, of course, and if you are being 
    treated as if electronic weapons attack is "all
    a big mistake, all in your imagination", remind
    them of their limitations.

9.  If mental health workers butt into your life
    and in so doing, say wordlessly that you are
    not sane, ask them this question:

    IF SOMEONE WERE BEING ASSAULTED BY ELECTRONIC
    WEAPONS, WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT A SANE PERSON
    TO DO IN RESPONSE?

    Fair's fair.

10. Suppose someone in authority tells you that you
    cannot, say, demonstrate an electronic weapon
    because you have been under a psychiatrist's
    care, and maybe have been in a psychiatric
    ward or hospital.

    You can respond:

    HOW MANY POLICE OFFICERS NOW ON DUTY, CARRYING
    GUNS, HAVE ALSO BEEN UNDER PSYCHIATRIC CARE?

    Again, fair's fair. 

11. For electronic weapons victims who experience
    effects, especially remote manipulation effects,
    in the company of others:

    Remote manipulation includes harassment effects
    like pushing your shopping cart when your hands
    are off it, simply banging objects around or
    rapping or sliding them, or occasionally levi-
    tation of part or all of your body.  Closely 
    related to physical remote manipulation are
    spurious operations of electrical equipment.

    My (Eleanor's) spooks always try to do little
    'tricks' as I pass through my place of employment.
    Until Labour Day 1997, their favourite was beeping
    every computer battery backup unit (UPS) at me as
    I pass by on my normal rounds.  Circa Labour Day
    1997 I was able to switch off the beepers, and
    although the spooks dropped the voltage and 
    triggered the units to go on battery, they did
    not beep.  Most employees did not notice this.

    So they began looking for other 'tricks' to 
    keep me 'on edge'.  One of their attempts is
    cause calculator motors to whir unnaturally
    loud as I pass.  This is loud and is noticed
    by employees, especially the calculator's 
    owner!  (It often scares them!)

    One of the ladies in the accounts receivable
    department is an engineer and has been quite
    curious, and has asked me in plain hearing of
    others what is causing that.

    Here's the key answer:  I say "This is caused
    by local microwave hackers".  I do NOT relate
    the hackers to intelligence agents or contractors,
    nor to MKULTRA.

    Furthermore, many people have no trouble at all
    believing "microwaves" can cause motors to spin.

    The combination of the phrases "local hackers"
    and "microwaves" paints a picture which is sur-
    prisingly acceptable to the general public.

    When presented this way, the incident hints at
    "just local kids who have tinkered with mom's
    microwave oven", or some equally "homey" scen-
    ario.  This is VERY EASY for the general public
    to accept, and introduces the public to what
    is happening WITH VERY LITTLE SKEPTICISM.

    I recommend to all e-weapon victims that they
    consider using this type of approach to get
    the events themselves linked to microwave 
    signals, WITHOUT triggering the public's
    "mental immune system" to respond with dis-
    belief.

    Over time this, I think, can become one way to
    get our foot in the public's door.

12. If you suspect you have an implant, find out what
    the classic symptoms are for the body region of
    concern, and complain loudly about those symtoms.

    Usual result:  You'll get your xray.  Do attempt to
    stay as close to the film as possible, to see it your-
    self before leaving the xray clinic.

    This has worked for others.

13. At time of writing this, I (Eleanor White) am in 
    contact with about 50 other electronic weapons
    testing and harassment victims..

    Put yourself on an imagnary jury panel - if you had
    fifty independent witnesses, who have never met one
    another, giving nearly identical testimony, what effect
    would that have on your decision.

14. Many listeners have a hard time believing that our
    saintly government officials would carry out or even
    condone attacks on innocent citizens.

    One response:  "We have several corporate whistle-
    blowers, and related workers' compensation claimants
    who also receive regular doses of electronic weapons
    harassment.  You don't have trouble believing THAT
    motive, do you?"

    Another response:  "One way this could have all come
    about is for government agencies to assign the devel-
    opment of neuro-influence weapons to their private
    contractors followed by: '...and don't tell us how
    you do it or who you test them on'. "  This is a
    readily acceptable scenario.

15. You may find police and other authorities urging
    you to "talk your problems over" with your harassers,
    or, get asked why you didn't try.

    I've said "I prefer not to speak with people who
    persistently harass me - they are obviously not
    rational people at all."

    Another victim suggests that "People who harass
    other people are predators.  I don't plan to 
    have any conversations with predatory people
    because they are a threat to my safety and are
    very unlikely to listen to any kind of reason."

    [This is kind of a difficult question to respond
    to.  Other suggestions for a response are welcome.]

16. For e-weapon victims who have electronic-telepathic
    two-way communication with their torturers, it may
    eventually help if you constantly remind them of
    these spiritual truths, and you do not need to be
    any particular faith to do this:

    - Spend some of your (torturers') time reading
      books about near-death experiences.  Pay close
      attention to experiences of those who have 
      lived thoroughly evil lives.

      One chronic evil-doer's near-death experience
      was to float horizontal, paralyzed, while small
      demons cut off his entire flesh in pieces - and,
      he did feel the pain.  (This man became a 
      minister after recovery.)

    - Being an atheist has no effect whatever on the
      matter of God's existence, or the existence of
      Heaven and Hell.  The torturers cannot simply
      "believe it away".

    - The fact that God doesn't step in and stop the
      e-weapon torture cannot be taken as evidence
      that God doesn't exist or doesn't care.  God
      RARELY intervenes - in THIS life, that is.

    - Once you're in the ground, it is too late.

    - If a torturer DOES reform, unspeakably wonderful
      pleasures of Heaven are then his inheritance,
      and even forgiveness from his victims.  The
      beauties and simple pleasures which the torturer
      denies himself to stay in that line of work will
      suddenly return, and the fresh feeling of freedom
      will welcome the torturer back into society.

      When I 'speak' to my torturers electronically
      (and pray for them too) I tell them that the 
      only thing I strive for is for the WEAPONS
      to be made public.  The torturers will probably
      mostly get away with their deeds, in THIS life,
      that is.

    - I frequently 'tell' my tortures to step back and
      look at the tide of mind control history.  The
      day this will be exposed IS approaching - and
      our publicity efforts will NOT stop.  New videos
      and radio shows are being worked on all the time
      now.  Buttons are being worn in high places.
      T-shirts are next.  The torturers would be very
      wise to heed the signs of the logjam breaking up.

17. Remind your listener/reader that our neuro-influence
    effects ALWAYS STOP when the electric power fails,
    and usually starts up immediately or soon after the
    power comes back on.

18. Remind your listener/reader that we victims are 
    fighting this war for THEM too!

19. If a state or local politician or police official
    tries to put you off saying "It's a federal matter",
    remind them that the bulk of the laws in the U.S.
    and Canada are state or provincial, and states or
    provinces do pass laws concerning the use of
    weapons.

    Furthermore, the ADMINSTRATIVE REGULATIONS which
    govern the immediate response of police agencies
    are DEFINITELY governed at the state or local
    level, even when it comes to how federal laws
    are initially enforced.

20. If faced with someone who says "Why should I care?
    This doesn't involve many people."  Answer that
    ethics in conducting research requires the same
    ETERNAL vigilance which police corruption requires.
    (Courtesy Roy Bercaw.)

21. If questioned as to why "experimenters" would use
    in-home test subjects, you could answer like this:

    "If you wanted to test weapons designed for use
    on civilian populations, would you not test them
    in civilian communities?"

22. If a listener/reader tells you they don't know if 
    they believe it, ask this question (courtesy of 
    Martti Koski):

    "Well if there is any chance at ALL that this IS
    really happening, don't you think someone should
    FIND OUT?"

23. One item I've been challenged on is that MKULTRA
    was "exposed" in 1977, so therefore (the challenger
    reasons) it must not exist any more.

    Here's a response:

    "So the U.S. Senate exposed MKULTRA.  OK -
    for years, the U.S. Senate, the media, the police,  
    and private citizens spoke of the MAFIA too.

    "Did that stop them from operating?"

    Only the RICO laws have had an impact, and
    only a set of laws to control intelligence actvities
    will ever control whatever new project names
    are in use today.  All the 1977 exposure did
    was force a project name change and give the
    intelligence people a chance to lie to the public.

24. Over autumn 1998 I've been having amazing,
    though small scale (i.e. me only) success with
    publicity and persuasive efforts using "DEVICE"
    instead of "WEAPON".  (The requests for further
    info POURED in after changing that one word.)

    I've tried a SECOND tactic which works even
    BETTER!  I pretend to be a "concerned
    citizen-researcher" who has "been researching"
    neuro-influence technology (and it's misuse) for
    the past 3 years.

    I freely discuss OTHER targetted people, and
    refer the listener/reader to web sites OTHER
    than my own.  I never mention my web site
    until a reader/listener asks for detailed
    specifics of how I came to research this.

25. No proof?  The media constantly discusses
    issues where there is no proof.  President
    Clinton's love life is a good recent example.

    All a responsible reporter has to do is make
    sure the lack of definitive proof is also
    mentioned.  Then they should feel able to
    write about the "no proof" issue, as they
    do quite often on issues other than mind
    control.

26. No proof?  One of the greatest public
    services performed by the media is to talk
    an issue up to where proof is forthcoming.

    The media often HELPS FIND the proof - so
    why not in an important issue such as
    neuro-influence weapons?

27. "LACK OF EVIDENCE"

    When confronted by someone in authority
    making this statement, you can reply in
    complete confidence:

    "That can mean either there is no evidence,
    or your agency chooses to ignore the
    evidence."

    People and agencies have agendas, and when
    evidence is presented, sometimes they 
    CHOOSE to ignore it, resulting in a man-made
    "lack of evidence" condition.