Al Bielek on Aliens, Spies, Space and the Government Source: Leading Edge News LE: Al, for our readers who may not know, you were
involved with the Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk Project as
well?
AL: That's correct. There were a few others but those
were the two major ones that I was involved with. The government likes
to use the people they get their hands on to the maximum until they
either wear them out or are tired of them for some reason or other and
put them out to pasture. As far as those secret projects were
concerned, I was put out to pasture after the Montauk Project
collapsed on August 12, 1983. I went along with a lot of other people
who were on the project at that time.
LE: There were rumors that the government does some kind
of brainwashing or extracting a portion of a person's memory when
they're finished with you. Is that true?
AL: Yes. It's very true. People who were involved in
these very secret projects, when they are no longer wanted may be
brain-washed. These people may lead two lives, side by side. One of
the techniques used is to essentially separate the right and left
lobes of the brain into two separate entities, keeping the same basic
personality, but blocking the memories between one side and the other
(brain lobes). One part of the brain becomes the normal every-day
person that everybody knows and has become accustomed to, and the
other part of the brain becomes a secret person working on a secret
government project.
The government has the means of flipping a switch, so to
speak; to flip from side A to side B (within the controlled person),
and, when the person is done with the day's work on side B, they go
back to side A of their "normal" person self (unaware of the part of
their workday they spent as being and working as "another person").
The government does this all the time.
LE: Can you give an example?
AL: They did it with Preston Nichols (author of "The
Montauk Project: Experiment in Time," "Montauk Revisited," and
"Pyramids of Montauk: Explorations in Consciousness") for about ten
years,when he was working as an engineer for a company on Long Island,
but he was also working at Montauk during this period from 1976 to
1983 and earlier. This is only one example. He couldn't understand
why, but he would go straight home at night, crawl in bed, get up the
next day, and start the routine over. He felt like he was doing two
jobs every day. Well, it turned out that he was, and eventually he
found out. When they found out that he found out he was called into
the security office of the company and told: "Mr. Nichols, you will no
longer be involved in the other project; just do your regular duties."
So he found out what he was in charge of (at the "other" job) that he
had a separate secondary office, a nice mahogany-paneled office and
mahogany desk, separate ID card, separate passes; the company had two
work sections, and he had worked in both of them.
LE: Sounds like pretty incredible brain control
technology!
AL: Candy Jones was another example. Long-John Neville
had a radio show in New York for a long period of time. This gal, whom
he had met, Candy Jones, was somebody he was very friendly with. She,
unknown to him, was working a double job. She was a spy. She was sent
out to the West Coast to be programmed for the job in San Francisco,
go to the Orient, do whatever she was supposed to, come back, be
deprogrammed, then be her normal self again. Well, eventually, her
usefulness was over, and they were ready to scrap her in the standard
CIA fashion.
LE: Which is?
AL: Which is dead... and suddenly she got the notion
that, on this particular weekend she was scheduled to be terminated.
So, she said to Long-John Neville, "John, let's go over to Bermuda and
get married." So they did. They hopped a plane literally on a moment's
notice, went to Bermuda, got married, came back and lived together for
quite a long time. Well, you see, they couldn't do anything then.
Eventually, he died and she lived on, and she told some of her story
when she was deprogrammed.
They do this all the time...not just in military
projects but in what was allegedly a civilian project (Montauk); and,
of course, the Philadelphia Experiment was a military project, but it
started as a civilian project. They didn't do that kind of
programming/deprogramming in the early phases of that project. They
only did it when personnel like myself were terminated from the
project. I was still in the Navy until July 4, 1947;, but I was pulled
off the project. I was in Los Alamos, and eventually wound up being
totally stripped of all of my memories as Edward Cameron. (Mr. Bielek
tells of being age regressed and given a different name in his book
"The Philadelphia Experiment.")
LE: How do they do that? Hypnosis or...
AL: No, this is all chemical-electronic. They
methodically erase the entire personality and memory; then they go
through an age regression technique where they can shrink the body
physically; you can make it older or make it younger, and you do it
either way, but typically they make it younger, because, normally,
they put this carrot in front of somebody about to retire who may be
65, and say, "Well, you've done such a good job for us, we'd like to
have you give us, let's say, ten more years. We know you're old, but
how would you like it if we could make you young again, let's say
about 25. You will not lose any of your memories, just be young
again." Well, who's going to refuse a carrot like that? And so you do
it. The government does it all the time to selected people. It's a
very closely guarded secret.
LE: How does the person that is, say 65, all of a sudden
get back to 25 and carry on a normal life?
AL: The full process, I don't know. When they do this,
obviously, they are going to have to lose a few friends and find a few
others, unless they have a few very trusted friends who can keep a
secret.
LE: Do they take out the memory of the work that they
did for the government?
AL: No, not if they're keeping them on. They retain
everything because the government wants them to keep on the job. It's
just that they give them their youth back and let them work another
ten or twenty years.
LE: So, our government has technology to make people
youthful?
AL: Oh, yes, they do. It started in 1947 with a program
in Miami, Florida, doing research on aging. Howard Hughes got
interested, and he bought the institute and it became the Howard
Hughes Medical Institute, and he continued the work, funding it fully.
Of course, Howard Hughes was doing almost everything for the CIA, as
well as other private projects, and he ran 92% of the CIA research
projects for a long period of time.
LE: Is that right?
AL: Yes, sir. And that (the youthful project) was one of
the major ones. He (Hughes) became very interested in this technique,
and, of course, other elements of the government did too. This is only
one aspect. They can do that; they can flip your mind back and forth.
They can do this after you're finished with a project, and they don't
want to terminate you, because they might want to use you again. They
then put you out to pasture, erase the memory of what you have done in
the government service, such as the Montauk Project and, in my case,
the Philadelphia Experiment. They weren't too hep on erasing memories
in 1947; only when it was some very specific thing they wanted erased.
LE: Did you work for the CIA or for the Navy or both?
AL: I worked for the Navy. I was a Navy employee at that
time. I was not a CIA employee.
LE: Were you ever at Roswell or area 51 in Nevada?
AL: I was not at Roswell. I was at Los Alamos
Laboratories.
LE: Did you see ET's or have you any information about
contact with them?
AL: Not at that location. They were there, I believe, in
the location of area 51; they were all over the place. At Los Alamos
Laboratories, to my knowledge, there were no ET's there. At least, at
that period of time I never ran into any. They may be there now as the
labs go on. But, ET's were heavily involved in the Montauk Project;
they were involved in other projects. They were involved in the
background of the Philadelphia Experiment in terms of the future
connection, but they were not there in the 1940's. It was all humans.
It was all, so far as I know, only our (human) engineering that was
used at Los Alamos. Our government had the cutting edge of technology
that was fifty years ahead of the universities... without ET contact
at Los Alamos.
LE: Can you tell us about some of your personal contact
with aliens?
AL: Yes. At Montauk, one of my first projects there was
to help to disassemble a UFO that was trapped in the underground
caverns at Montauk due to the locking together of the Philadelphia and
Montauk Projects. There were three UFOs over the Eldridge (ship). I
did not see them. Other people did. Now, that doesn't mean that I
wasn't capable of seeing them; I just didn't see them for whatever
reason. Two escaped; the third was somehow trapped in the fields
developed around the Eldridge, and it affected their equipment. They
tried to do time travel in order to escape. Something went wrong with
their equipment, and they wound up trapped in the underground at
Montauk, totally disabled. So, I was, shall we say, "hired," if that's
the right term, to work on the Montauk Project.
The first thing I did was to attempt to interrogate the
crew members, who were still fully alive and well. There were seven of
them, about six feet tall. I wanted to interpret and understand their
manuals. Jack Pruitt, the station manager, wanted to know: are they
involved in some kind of a project or, perhaps, the advanced guard of
an invasion? We wanted to know everything possible. We wanted to know
their manuals. I wanted to read them. I wanted to interrogate these
guys and get them to talk. Up to that point they wouldn't talk. I
finally got one of them to talk. Then, finally, three of them talked.
The four additional members, including the captain, would not talk.
Eventually, the three who talked were murdered by the captain or the
crew for talking. But, we dismantled the large elements of their ship:
the weapons systems, the control panels, the control boards, the
propulsion systems. I believe the food storage and food generation
units were left intact. The power system was left intact because we
didn't understand it, and we figured if we took this thing apart, who
knows, it might turn into an atom bomb or its equivalent. So, we left
them strictly alone. So, we did mostly dismantle this underground
alien ship.
LE: Do you believe that it's true, when John F. Kennedy
said, "We'll go to the moon by the end of the decade," that we used
the technology from the ET's when we did that?
AL: We had it already. We were developing our own
antigravity systems, which the Germans had already developed during
World War II and were using on some of the German space ships. The
Germans didn't have enough of them to change the tide of the war but,
nevertheless, they developed antigravity drives and left planet Earth
in 1945 and 1946 in one or two of their space ships. They had space
technology and we inherited it from them (after the war). Victor
Schaumberg had worked on this technology as part of the German program
and, by studying the "reverse" engineering of UFOs, we acquired space
technology and we are now building our own UFOs. I'm talking about the
U.S. Government privately and quietly (building UFO's). We have the
technology, because, when the astronauts of Apollo II arrived on the
moon, it was announced on the air-waves and the radio amateurs in
Europe monitored it. Here's what was said when the astronauts
questioned Houston Space Center: "Houston, we've got visitors up
here." -- "Yes, we know about them" --- "Oh? Are they
extraterrestrials?" --- "No." --- "Are they Russians?" --- "No." ---
And one of the astronauts finally asked Houston, "Are they Americans?"
Houston answered: "Yes." Americans were there (on the moon already)
waiting for our (American) astronauts to arrive in their
chemically-fueled rockets (which were obviously outdated and
old-fashioned by then!).
LE: So, our government lied to our own astronauts...
AL: They lied to our astronauts, and many of them
(astronauts) became very furious over that afterward.
LE: And this was a total lie to the people of our
country also...
AL: That's only one of the many little things that
occur. Many things are swept under the rug, that our government
doesn't want the public to know about, but it leaks because there are
people who know and people who talk and people who get fed up with the
government. Many people today are getting fed up with the government
and are talking. Some survive and some don't.
LE: Do you think the Presidents of the United States
know what's going on with this?
AL: Most of them know.
LE: They know but they keep it quiet.
AL: Bush knew everything because he was former director
of the CIA. Reagan, I think did. The man who followed Bush, namely Mr.
Clinton, at first I thought probably did not, but I suspect that the
position he is in, because of the responsibilities he has, including
covering up, that he probably does know about everything. He probably
does know most everything, and he is perhaps the best expert at
coverup and deception that we have ever had in the White House.
LE: That's good.
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