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Vol.Two Issue #149 The Surveillance List July 1,1997
Over 2300+ Members Worldwide
Representing 50 different countries
List Chat at: http://www.thecodex.com/chat.html
Seminar Info at: http://www.thecodex.com/methods.html
Surveillance List Pseudo FAQ at: http://www.thecodex.com/faq.html
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Confusion regarding phone company voltages
02) Where can I download KeyLog2??
03) Some Tech Questions on Digital Recording
04) Get PGP 5.0 Here!
05) Checking credit card numbers
06) It's not a keylogger, but might be better
07) Re: Ammonium Triiodide?
08) American Directory Assistance
09) ANAC and Ringback
10) TAGGING + INFRARED
11) Re: Misinformation to a receiving "caller ID" unit?
12) Approaching Convention/Seminar(s)
13) HERF / EMP/T Bombs and Planes
14) Homemade lock picking tools
15) I thank everyone
16) Re: Help with Eudora Password
17) Sweep Fee Range in NYC
18) Re: Chatlines
19) Re: Digital Cameras
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1)From: Duece6x6@aol.com
Subject: Confusion regarding phone company voltages
There has been some confusion regarding phone company voltages and
specifications. Bell Labs/AT&T note: on hook voltage at the premise {phone}
at 6 volts DC--off hook voltage at the premise 48 volts DC--- ring voltage
{this has been an arguing point for years} 102 volts AC at 20 HZ. Call them
and you can get this verification after about 100$ in phone calls. This is
for a CO in/outbound line. The type used in homes. Of course every tech knows
there are several types of telco lines {drops}. Such as DID, CO, etc.
The DUECE
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2)From: "Casey Visco" <cvisco@mindless.com>
Subject: Where can I download KeyLog2??
-->Casey
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3)From: HtPursuit@aol.com
Subject: Some Tech Questions on Digital Recording
Well here goes, this is a bit out of my area,(like two states over). I have
been requested to assist in placing a series of video cameras with audio in
several locations and record both, and also have the capability to monitor
any combination. There are 8 locations in close proximity, each will have 2
cameras and 1 mic. and need to be monitored in addition to being recorded. I
have been told that digital is the way to go, I have no idea what the
difference is. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also the system would
use a series of multiplexers to allow monitoring any combination and
recording each location and selecting one or both cameras during playback.
If successful, there may be additional locations through out the US.
Thanks in advance for any input.
Bill
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4)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: Get PGP 5.0 Here!
If for some reason you can't get PGP 5.0 Freeware at the MIT site, you
can get it here:
ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/w/wfn/public/pgp5/pgpinstall.exe
-WW
My ICQ UIN is 1430880.
-=WindWalker Access=- -=PeaceFire=-
http://www.dynanet.com/~wieland/ http://www.peacefire.org/
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5)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: Checking credit card numbers
>Does anybody have formulas for CHECKING, not
>GENERATING credit card numbers?
>FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY
Craig,
The software is out there. I've seen it on Bounty Hunter's BBS but I no
longer have the number for it. On the other hand, you know you can pick
up credit card terminals at flea markets cheap which have the software
built in. Sorry I'm not more help on this one.
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6)From: Ziv Dascalu <ziv@AbirNet.com>
Subject: It's not a keylogger, but might be better
Hi,
you do not even have to install a software on any machine on the network,
you can install AbirNet SessionWall-3 on any one of the windows 95 or NT machines on the network and monitor all the stations and see exactly what they are seeing on the screen you can download a 30 days evaulation version from http://www.abirnet.com hope this helps
Ziv
AbirNet provides the next generation in Internet and Intranet Protection
AbirNet provides Windows 95 & NT-based software that let's you know
how your network is being used while protecting it from intrusions
and abuse using no-network overhead, see-it-all filtering, blocking,
alerting, logging, and scanning technologies. |
=== Get an EVALUATION COPY at <http://www.AbirNet.com> ===
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7)From: China <china@e-tex.com>
Subject: Re: Ammonium Triiodide?
First, within the context of this discussion, Ammonium Triiodide
[NH sub 4 I sub 3] is not the "explosive" formed, and for general purposes,
ammonium triiodide is not explosive in and of itself.
Ammonium Triiodide has the following characteristics:
In its pure state, it exists as dark brown rhombic crystals. It has a
molecular weight (tare) of 398.75 and a density/specific gravity of 3.749.
It decomposes at 175 degrees celcius. It slightly decomposes in cold water
and completely decomposes in hot water.
Secondly, depending upon circumstances and chemical kinetics, the explosive
formed will be Nitrogen triiodide monoammine. [NIsub 3, NH sub 3]
It is possible to form free Nitrogen Triiodide [NI sub 3], which is very
explosively unstable (it will even sublime in a vacuum), but it is not a
possibility under the circumstances of this discussion.
Nitrogen Triiodide monoammine has the following characteristics:
In its pure crystalline form it exists as dark red rhombic crystals with a
molecular weight of 411.75 and a density/specific gravity of 3.5. It begins
to decompose above 20 degrees celcius, and as the temperature rises from there
it will at a particular temperature explode. It is insoluble in cold water
and absolute alcohol, and it decomposes in hot water. It is however soluble
in hydrogen chloride, potassium thiocyanate, sodium thiosulfate-- just in case
you wish to figure a selective removal of the compound.
As for the aspect of pure metallic Iodine...
Pure metallic iodine, per gram, has the following general solubilty
characteristics:
(1) will dissolve in about 3000 milliliters (ml)-- practically insoluble in
either cold or hot water
(2) in 13 ml of alcohol-- rather soluble
(3) in 4 ml of carbon disulfide-- very soluble
(4) in 10 ml of benzene
(5) in 80 ml of glycerine, and
it is freely soluble in chloroform, carbon tetrachloride, ether, glacial
acetic acid, and solutions of iodides or hydriodic acid.
In alcoholic solutions Iodine slowly forms hydrogen iodide if alkali iodide is
absent.
Since it was suggested that the pure iodine was suspended in alcohol, it
is evident from the aforementioned solubility characteristics that one would
need a supersaturated solution for pure Iodine to remain suspended in
alcohol, in which case, the excess metallic iodine would precipitate rather
than form a suspension, per se.
If you wish to make an alcoholic solution of Iodine-- and the reason for
doing so escapes me, frankly--, you may do so as follows:
Dissolve 20 grams of Iodine and 24 grams of sodium iodide in 500
milliliters (ml) of alcohol, then add sufficient purified water to
make the product measure 1000 milliliters or 1 liter. There will be
sufficient sodium iodide present to stabilize the tincture, and make
it miscible with water in all proportions. Moreover, more than enough
iodide is present to combine, theoretically, with all of the iodine
to form NI sub 3, preventing the iodine from reacting with the alcohol
to form acetaldehyde and hydrogen iodide. The final solution will
contain 1.8 to 2.2 grams of iodine and 2.1 to 2.6 grams of sodium
iodide per 100 ml of solution.
This brings me to the issue of formaldehyde.
Given the conditions under which this "brew" would be concocted, there are
no explosive products yielded from the formaldehyde, per se. That is not
to suggest however that formaldehyde is "safe," considering the fact that
it was suggested that this concoction be sprayed "in and around" one's
op.
USP formaldehyde solution contains not less than 37%, by weight, of
formaldehyde, with methanol added to prevent polymerization-- when
evaporated on a water bath formaldehyde polymerizes to paraformaldehyde
which remains as a white residue.
While the dog will undoubedly find the odor of formaldehyde repugnant,
the operative will likewise find it so within his immediate area.
Formaldehyde's action derives from its ability to condense with amino
groups of amino acids and biogenic amines, and since these "fumes" are
going to be suffusing one's nasal passages and perhaps condensing with
biogenic amines on the cribiform plate [ the only external opening
to the brain] of the ethmoid to aggravate the mucosa and olfactory
biomechanisms, it seems rather inadvisable to breathe it unless
absolutely necessary. The toxicological specs for formaldehyde are
readily available on the Web. As an aside, its employment for preserving
milk, meat, and other articles of food likely to spoil through
fermentation is prohibited by both national and state law.
Since this post appeared, I have been attempting to ascertain whether there
exists a readily available chemical/class of chemicals which would
selectively blockade the synaptic junctions of the olfactory biomechanisms,
thus rendering the dog temporarily unable to smell. Unfortunately, as yet,
I have unearthed no such chemical, but perhaps others here on the list
may have been more successful so far?
The course of choice seems to be at the other end of the spectrum-- rather
than neutralize the dog's sense of smell, an "overload" of his senses
from another agent, which would have the same effect. To this end, it seems
that "skunk oil," which Pricipal used to such great effect, has the best
potential and the least toxicological consequences.
china
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8)From: lazlo@shadowlink.net
Subject: American Directory Assistance
Here is a useful page that might interest some list members...
http://www.lookupusa.com/lookupusa/ada/ada.htm
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9)From: Marcus Blankenship <MarcusB@JELD-WEN.com>
Subject: ANAC and Ringback
FYI: All phone companies in the United States are required to give
current ANAC and Ringback numbers to ANY COMPANY THAT DOES PHONE WORK OF
ANY KIND (Payphone, home phones, business systems, etc.). THIS IS THE
LAW. I believe it is article 76 of the Telecommunications act of 1990,
but I'm not sure. For more info (and a great telcom list) subscribe to
Telcom Digest, or read comp.dcom.telcom. The government considers these
tests to be vital to good telecommunications installation.
Marcus
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10)From: Martin Pask <100142.3101@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: TAGGING + INFRARED
On the IR tagging. There is a substance available. Do you know the chemical air
marshaling sticks you can get. Well you can get them in IR. We used to use them
for bringing in choppers at night with the pilot using PNG's.(passive night
goggles) But in another situation which I wont go into to much detail we used to
break them open and pour the chemical onto the roof of a vehicle. To the naked
eye it is invisible but to a chopper at 2000 its a very good aid to following.
MPI
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11)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Misinformation to a receiving "caller ID" unit?
> Do you know of any "boxes" out there that can be placed inline with a
> phone, and used to send misinformation to a receiving "caller ID" unit?
Unfortunately, that's not possible. The CID information sent down the
line does not originate from your own phone. Try a payphone.
CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
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12)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Approaching Convention/Seminar(s)
Will those of us who are physically or financially incapable of attending
this soon-to-happen convention have the chance of perhaps purchasing audio
cassettes of speakers and/or see photos or texts handed out during that
time? Is anyone planning on taking a bunch of photos and perhaps placing
them on the web with descriptions of what they represent?
CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
+++Moderator's Note+++
We are exploring several avenues to make seminar information available to those unable to attend. I will notify the list when we have something concrete...
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13)From: Jesse <forez@usa.net>
Subject: HERF / EMP/T Bombs and Planes
With all of the talk about HERF, EMP/T's, etc., I was getting curious about
possible uses of these things that have been left as 'mysteries'.. Well, I
read tons about how they work and all, especially from the book Information
Warfare Revision 2 (IT'S AWESOME!!! , and I started pondering things, such
as the unexplained electricity outage a while back in a few states that were
supposedly due to heat, adn the plane crashes such as the TWA Flight 800,
etc... Could it be that some unknown sources are experimenting with these
weapons in highly organized crime or devious terrorist attacks? Hmm, just a
thought to ponder about...
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14)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Homemade lock picking tools
Disclaimer: blah blah...professional's only, blah blah, dont be stupid, blah
blah blah JAIL..blah blah....respect all laws, blah blah...no kidding.
Ok, we move on.....
I understand that a lot of people here do not have access to lock picking
tools and I shall try my best to explain how to make some out of common
materials. The best I have personally made far surpasses any manufactured
pick in sensitivity.....but is not too comfortable to hold.
Tip starts here-----------> I
_________________________ _______________
I
---------------------------I
I / This is the basic
shape. Straight tip.
I_______________________/ Tip should be about 1 1/2" or so.
The tip width should be about 1/8" or so. Small enough to fit in keyway...but
not too small (thin) that it will be too springy.
Handle- At least 3" or whatever is comfortable.
Torque wrench:
Side view _____________________I <----thats it, very
simple.
Side view the other way _____________________
I
Aprox dimentions: 2" and make the inserted part about 1/4". 2-1/2 inches is
a good total length. Over that and you might be hitting the door frame.
Material used:
Brick strap. This is found all over the place in parking lots at Lumber
yards, home centers (Home depo) etc. NOT difficult to find unless your in
Pakistan. Pakistan residents, use camel strap. (respectfully)
Good pair of snips is crutial. The tip is going too want to curl as your
cutting it. Thats Ok...let it and straighten it out later.
Neat tip if your not in a hurry. Heat the base of the TIP with a torch till
it glows and then drop it in cold water. This will harden it. Do this outside
for some straps have a coating that might be toxic when heated.
Me personally: This is the MOST sensative pick that you will ever hold in
your hands.
It is very uncomfortable though. Use is to pick or rake. Play around with it
and find what works best for you.
The idea is basic. Know HOW to make picks. Modify this pick to suit your
needs. Something neat to do: Take a moment one day...STOP..look around and
give yourself ONE minute to find something that you can "effectively" use as
a lockpick. Get creative...take the day off work and join me. Do the same
with entries. How many ways can you gain entry to a building realistically?
It's tons of fun when you find an "in"...then have to go nutt's trying to
figure out realistically "how" entry is gained. (see disclaimer)
If for whatever reason this diagram get's a bit "screwey" on the way to
you......please Mail me and I'll send in my format.
Augie
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15)From: Duece6x6@aol.com
Subject: I thank everyone
I thank everyone for the response on the gone to the dogs repellent mixture.
This leads to a good story about being informed: I went to a profesional
seminar 3 years ago with practical field training. The instructor was showing
us how kids were making noise with chemicals in liter pop bottles using acid
and cut up pop cans to make a bang. After he threw about 10 of these into the
weeds and they went off we went down to see the damage. I spent the evening
in the emergency room with chemical/acid burns on my legs and my clothes
ruined.
THE DUECE
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16)From: Mike Gevaert <mgevaert@bfree.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Help with Eudora Password
Hello,
To whoever posted the thing about decrypting the Eudora password.
WHere I work, at the ISP, there was some info going around about people
breaking the Eudora password with a little program, the password is the same
for your email box aswell as your login. Not a good thing, anyhow, there is
a little program to decrypt the passwords, I think I might have a copy.
Look around. I think the file is called eudpass.zip or something. THe
encryption code is pretty simple in eudora, as simple as the Trumpet one.
L8r,
Mike G
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17)From: "John C. Sanders" <johnsanders@customized.com>
Subject: Sweep Fee Range in NYC
Can anyone provide a range in the fee structure for a sweep for bugs and
taps in an executive's office in midtown Manhattan. I realize there are
good, honest, reliable, and technically-proficient people available for
this kind of work, as well as the poorer-trained, less experienced,
poorly-equipped, "whatever-the-traffic-will bear" types. I'm interested
in rate ranges of the former.
Thanks.
+++Moderator's Note+++
The going rate in the NYC metroplitan area for technically proficient TSCM service by a professional company with PROFESSIONAL equipment is: $150.00 per room, $150.00 per phone line, $75.00 per instrument. There are several variables depending on type of system etc. Prices are usually somewhat negotiable. You will find some in the business that will give you a "flat"
rate of $300. to $1000. and wave a "magic wand" around the room... beware...
If you want to know what type of equipment should be used and procedures employed checkout: http://www.thecodex.com/c_eeaves.html or contact me directly...
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18)From: crudgmar@sprynet.com
Subject: Re: Chatlines
There is always some nutty, disturbed bozo out in the world
that will do something/anything to cause trouble for others
......for whatever reason.
With regard to the problem of your chat password being
glommed....it is far easier to open a new "account"...using
a new password, and then exposing the person to those who
know you, than it is to try to "re-crack" your orig. pass
word. Most of these Chat areas have the capability of
randomly picking new accts. and passwords. If it is one
like POWWOW...it too, can be changed. Don't waste time
trying to do the other thing.
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19)From: Ron Lander <rlander@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Digital Cameras
I use the Epson "PhotoPC" Model PCDC001.
It retailed for around $450., but I picked it up for $200. From my sister,
who couldn't figure out how to use it! It has two settings: "regular" (36
exp) and "high" (16 exp). She complained that the quality was not good. I
got it, flicked the switch from standard to high and NOW have GREAT
photos!
Good luck!
Ron Lander, CPP
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Vol.Two Issue #150 The Surveillance List July 2,1997
Over 2300+ Members Worldwide
Representing 50 different countries
List Chat at: http://www.thecodex.com/chat.html
Seminar Info at: http://www.thecodex.com/methods.html
Surveillance List Pseudo FAQ at: http://www.thecodex.com/faq.html
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Upcoming Seminar
02) RE: Checking credit card numbers
03) Re: Where to get KeyLog95
04) Re: Credit Card Validation Program
05) Walz and Daggett
06) Frequency?
07) Re: Approaching Convention/Seminar
08) Adding Confusion Regarding Phone Company Voltages
09) RE: Eudora Password Crack Utility Location
10) Re: MCI ANI
11) Re: Some Tech Questions on Digital Recording
12) Re: CC# Formula?
13) Sending "good's" down the river?
14) Having a hard time identifying a lock
15) Thoughts to Ponder
16) The ultimate disclaimer
17) Re: IR tagging
18) Frying the phone lines
19) PHILOSOPHIES
20) ICQ
21) Re: checking credit card numbers
22) Spread Spectrum Surveillance Modules (fwd)
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1)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Upcoming Seminar
The registrations are coming in and the New York seminar promises to be a
hit. I have had a number of requests from list members (who will be unable
to attend) for a video of the proceedings. If we get enough requests it may
be possible. If you are unable to attend and would be interested in a video
of the proceedings let me know...
We gotten commitments from several speakers on several topics of interest
to the list. One of the most interesting will be Vincent Parco New York PI
who will teach how-to-get non-pub phone numbers, toll records, bank records, etc. If you are in the business or currently using an info broker to get you this type of info, this ONE part of the seminar will pay for itself many times over...
Trace Carpenter, Jim Marino (RetSheriff), myself and several others will
also be speaking and giving demonstrations on a variety of surveillance & countersurveillance topics... We also plan to have a few "surprise" guests...
We also hope to have a few equipment vendors displaying their products
during the conference...
We've arranged for FREE refreshments to be served during the day AND a FREE buffet lunch for ALL attendees. In the evening hours after the seminar I'm hosting a FREE party with refreshments ;-) at a local NYC nightspot...
Don't Forget... The H.O.P.E. - Hackers On Planet Earth conference begins in NYC the following day for three days. You can visit both events during your trip...
For more info checkout: http://www.thecodex.com/methods.html
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2)From: Ben Norman <bnorman@kent.edu>
Subject: RE: Checking credit card numbers
>Does anybody have formulas for CHECKING, not
>GENERATING credit card numbers?
>FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY
From the alt.2600 faq:
02. How do I determine if I have a valid credit card number?
Credit cards use the Luhn Check Digit Algorithm. The main purpose of
this algorithm is to catch data entry errors, but it does double duty
here as a weak security tool.
For a card with an even number of digits, double every odd numbered
digit and subtract 9 if the product is greater than 9. Add up all the
even digits as well as the doubled-odd digits, and the result
must be a multiple of 10 or it's not a valid card. If the card has an
odd number of digits, perform the same addition doubling the even
numbered digits instead.
--
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3)From: Silicon <silicon@netwalk.com>
Subject: Re: Where to get KeyLog95
Hey Casey,
You can grab it, and a few others, from my site at:
http://www.silitoad.org/arch3.html#keylogs
If you have any problems let me know...take it easy.
Regards,
ST
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4)From: Silicon <silicon@netwalk.com>
Subject: Re: Credit Card Validation Program
Hey Trace,
I've put up a file called, oddly enough, 'The Credit Card Validation
Program' on my site for you to grab. It's about 83k in size, and this is
the small description that goes along with it:
"This program was designed for businesses that take credit card numbers
over the telephone without the means of any sort of immediate validation.
This algorithm will detect an invalid sequence of numbers based on the
methods used by all major credit card companies. In no way do we claim that
every valid sequence of numbers is TRULY a valid card, just a series of
numbers that passes the algorithm."
You can grab it at http://www.silitoad.org/dosbanks.zip I'll keep it posted
at this location until it's moved to the archives. Either way, good luck.
Take it easy...
Regards,
ST
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5)From: GilbertWa@aol.com
Subject: Walz and Daggett
Dear Frank,
Jude and I would like to thank you and members of the Codex list for your
support and offers of assistance. Our attorneys are looking into the
possibility of establishing a defense fund for Tech Support Systems, we will
keep you posted.
Again thank you for the moral support. This is a long and hard road, but
hopefully it will end soon.
Best regards,
Gilbert and Jude
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6)From: "WILLIAM W.MOODY JR," <fireking@alaweb.com>
Subject: Frequency?
ok list, i have a guestion for you. i have a frequency of 193.3 wfm and
the audio is the sound of a fish tank pump , directly above this at
193.22 wfm this sound is not present but the channel is quiet or dead
carrier. can find no audio present in any mode with my aor8000. the fish
tank air pump noise will go away when the plug is removed from the
outlet,however this does not kill the carrier. the air pump is plugged
into a tank hood that has a three outlet panel with the light switch
built into it . unplugging this will not kill carrier, the tank hood is
plugged into a wall outlet that is daisy chained into other wall
outlets. when the main ac breaker to this room is turned off this will
kill the carrier. upon inspection of the wall outlets they appear to all
be the same with no visable differences . when checking underneath the
structure to check the wire i found two holes drilled into the stud
cavity directly beside the stud cavity that the fishtank outlet and ac
wiring goes into. the holes were freshly drilled and the first one had
stopped because of hitting the stud itself , the second one goes
straight into the adjoining cavity. upon inspection with my mag light
and feeler wire i came up with nothing. the wire itself does not appear
to be tampered with.is this a throw off? can the transmitter be the
breaker itself? can you have a transmitter that uses inductance along
the wire? what would be the current draw on the ac circuit if the
transmitter uses the ac for power, less than .5 milliamps ? any ideas ?
cant afford all the fancy equipment or the cost of a tscm sweep, just
trying to get buy and help a person out who has a problem. you can post
any help or e-mail me at fireking@alaweb.com
oh yeah almost forgot. if anyone would like to pay me 30 million to bite
a ear off im open for booking.
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7)From: Greg Caldwell <caldwell@nvi.net>
Subject: Re: Approaching Convention/Seminar
>>>>
From: CrACKeD Subject: Approaching Convention/Seminar(s) Will those of us who are physically or financially incapable of attending this soon-to-happen convention have the chance of perhaps purchasing audio cassettes of speakers and/or see photos or texts handed out during that time? Is anyone planning on taking a bunch of photos and perhaps placing them on the web with descriptions of what they represent? Regarding CrACKeD's post, I would second his suggestion and would also be willing to pay a reasonable fee to cover materials and/or audio or video tapes of the seminar.
<<<<
Perhaps if those who cannot attend, but are still willing to do so would notify SpyKing, he would have a better idea of how to appropriately "record" the presentations. Let's face it, the real cost will be the time and expense of the person doing the recording, but with 100 or 200 list members sharing that cost and the additional cost of duplication, planning would be much easier, based on the actual cost of recording v. how many people will actually purchase them.
+++Moderator's Note+++
We ARE exploring the possiblity. It depends on how much interest we get. If list members want to order a video let me know BEFORE ASAP.
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8)From: phreaker@technologist.com
Subject: Adding Confusion Regarding Phone Company Voltages
That post has the on-hook and off-hook phone line voltages backwards.
ON-HOOK - The phone is hung up or the receiver is in the cradle or the
phone is in a ringable mode).
OFF-HOOK - The phone receiver is in your hand, you can hear a dial tone,
or make a call.
Ring voltage is also said to be plus and minus the on-hook voltage or
about 100 volts.
On-hook voltage is around 50 (FIFTY) volts.
Off-hook voltage is around 5 (FIVE) or 6 (SIX) volts and sometimes
varies from 4.5 to 6.5 volts.
To easily demonstrate this, hook a DMM or VOM to the ring and tip (aka
red and green wires) and measure it. When the phone is hung up, the
voltage will be about 50 volts, and when you pick up the reciever, the
voltage will drop to about 5 or 6 volts.
'nuff said...
P
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9)From: phreaker@technologist.com
Subject: RE: Eudora Password Crack Utility Location
After reading the post from Mike Gevaert I decided to see if I could
find the file "eudpass.zip". Using FileFerret (one of a suite of search
utilities and one of the best on the net) I found the file at one site
with the server name "ftp.ilf.net" in folder
"/pub/users/LordSomers/files/CRACKPAS". File size is 11K. Hope this
helps.
P
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10)From: Leo1pard@aol.com
Subject: Re: MCI ANI
>>1-800-444-3333 and make sure to that MCI for this free service.
>>Let's go see if this works on payphones also.....be right back. (back)
>Yep...it works there too.
>>Please.......let me know is this number works from all over the country.
>Augie :-)
I live in MN. I dialed the MCI# on my home phone, but someone answerd (maybe
because I use AT&T). Then I went to a pay phone and the computer said 'our
records indicate that you are calling from (612)777-****. If this is correct, press 1. (How could you press one on a rotary phone?) But the computer did not give the account number. It is an idea forgetting a pay phone number that isn't
posted though. Maybe it just works in NJ.
- Katherine ;-)
Leo1pard@aol.com
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11)From: Martin Pask <100142.3101@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Some Tech Questions on Digital Recording
Bill do you want to record the video and audio using a digital recording system
or just the audio?
M.P.I.
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12)From: Howard Fuhs <HFuhs@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: CC# Formula?
>Does anybody have formulas for CHECKING, not
>GENERATING credit card numbers?
>FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY
There is nothing secret about the algorithm for checking credit card
numbers. Lacking the time to translate the whole article I wrote about that topic, here are the main facts.
The algorithm is called "Luhn mod 10" and is documented in ISO Standard
7812 (and also in every good book about information systems).
This algorithm is used to check the CC-number for typos when entered
manually into a system. his algorithm cannot tell you whether a CC-number is generated, stolen, expired etc. It just can tell you whether a given CC-number is plausible or not.
The digit which will be calculated by the algorithm using the CC-number has
to be the same with the last digit of the CC-number (some sort of integrity checking). The last digit of the CC-number will be ignored by the algorithm when he is calculating the check sum.
The algorithm works with the following principle:
1) Starting with the most right digit of the CC-number each second digit
will be multiplied with 2.
2) Adding up all results in the direct line of the digits to one result.
3) This result will be deducted from the next higher digit which ends on 0
(Zero)
Example:
We will check the following number for plausibility: 4992 73 9871
4 9 9 2 7 3 9 8 7 1
x2 x2 x2 x2 x2
4 + 1 + 8 + 9 + 4 + 7 + 6 + 9 + 1 + 6 + 7 + 2
= 64
70 - 64 = 6
The correct number has tot be: 4992 73 9871 6
Hope this helps. Sorry for the bad english, it' to late at night.
Greetings from Germany
Howard
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13)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Sending "good's down the river?
RE: Lorenzo Castillo >>B&Eing into drug warehouses and sending "good's down
the river-
Lorenzo, our government cant get the job done. Sounds like a neat one to me.
RE: Bill's (htpursuit) espresso
Bill, you'r buying eh? You just made yourself a friend for life.
Coffee+free= My friend
Note: The thing that does not exist........exists and is very real. The
Italian mafia has been a target and is effectively being slowed down. This
left a vacume..which "sucked in" other organizations that were left
unattended. While our government patted theselves on the butt for the "Teflon
Don" bust and the many that went down with him....the back door to a Italian
controled now unorganized multi billion dollar enterprise. That door has
been entered by organizations.....that the american public simply chooses to
ignore. Simply??? Because it is not as glorified as the Cosa nostra. Much
more organized than this $2,000 suit TV nonsense. The thing that does not
exists..... Can I have an eggroll with my espresso? :-)
RE: Trace at seminar
What a day for me here. People buying coffee. Trace in my neck of the
woods.....life is GOOD. :-)
Augie
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14)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Having a hard time identifying a lock
Hi everyone, hope all is good.
I am having a hard time identifying a lock. I set up a web page with the 2
pixx of it.
The 2 pixx is all I have to go on.
Here's the site adress-
http://members.aol.com/BADCOFFEE/wwlock.html
Thank you!!! Wishing EVERYONE the best and the safest of holliday. EZ on the
drinking if your driving :-)
Augie
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15)From: Greg Caldwell <caldwell@nvi.net>
Subject: Thoughts to Ponder
Although slightly off topic, here's something to think about.
----------------
On March 23rd, the medical examiner viewed the body of Ronald Opus and concluded that he died from a gunshot wound to the head, caused by a shotgun.
Investigation to that point had revealed that the deceased had jumped from the top of a ten story building with the intent to commit suicide (he left a note indicating his despondency). As he passed the 9th floor on the way down, his life was interrupted by a shotgun blast through a window, killing him instantly. Neither the shooter nor the deceased was aware that a safety net had been erected at the 8th floor level to protect some window washers and that the deceased would not have been able to complete his intent to commit suicide because of this.
Ordinarily, a person who starts into motion the events with a suicide intent ultimately commits suicide even though the mechanism might be not what he intended. That he was shot on the way to certain death nine stories below probably would not change his mode of death from suicide to homicide. But the fact that his suicide intent would not have been achieved under any circumstance caused the medical examiner to feel that he had a homicide on his hands.
Further investigation led to the discovery that the room on the 9th floor from whence the shotgun blast emanated was occupied by an elderly man and his wife. He was threatening her with the shotgun because of an inter-spousal spat and became so upset that he could not hold the shotgun straight. Therefore, when he pulled the trigger, he completely missed his wife and the pellets went through the window striking the deceased.
When one intends to kill subject A, but kills subject B in the attempt, one is guilty of the murder of subject B. The old man was confronted with this conclusion, but both he and his wife were adamant in stating that neither knew that the shotgun was loaded. It was the longtime habit of the old man to threaten his wife with an unloaded shotgun. He had no intent to murder her, therefore, the killing of the deceased appeared then to be an accident. That is, the gun had been accidentally loaded.
But further investigation turned up a witness that their son was seen loading the shotgun approximately six weeks prior to the fatal accident. That investigation showed that the mother (the old lady) had cut off her son's financial support and her son, knowing the propensity of his father to use the shotgun threateningly, loaded the gun with the expectation that the father would shoot his mother. The case now becomes on of murder on the part of the son for death of Ronald Opus.
Further investigation revealed that the son became increasingly despondent over the failure of his attempt to get his mother murdered. This led him to jump off the ten story building on March 23rd, only to be killed by a shotgun blast through a 9th story window.
The medical examiner closed the case as a suicide.
--From the Journal of the American Academy of Forensic Scientists
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16)From: "Walstrom, Bradley" <walstb@uf9753p01.PhoenixAZ.ncr.com>
Subject: The ultimate disclaimer
Found this on the web. The ultimate warning and disclaimer label
This product is meant for educational purposes only. Any resemblance to
real persons, living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where
prohibited by law. Some assembly required. Batteries not included.
Contents may settle during shipment. Use only as directed. No other
warranty expressed or implied. Do not use while operating a motor
vehicle or heavy equipment. This is not an offer to sell securities.
Apply only to affected area. May be too intense for some viewers. Do
not stamp. For recreational use only. All models over 18 years of age.
If condition persists, consult your physician. No user-serviceable
parts inside. Freshest if eaten before date on carton. Subject to
change without notice. Simulated picture. Breaking seal constitutes
acceptance. For off-road use only. Contains a substantial amount of
non-tobacco ingredients. Colors may, in time, fade. Slippery when wet.
For office use only. Not affiliated with the University of Florida or
any other institution of higher learning. Edited for television. Keep
cool; process promptly. Post office will not deliver without postage.
List was current at time of printing. Not responsible for direct,
indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect,
error or failure to perform. At participating locations only. Penalty
for private use. See label for sequence. Substantial penalty for early
withdrawal. Do not write below this line. Lost ticket pays maximum
rate. Your canceled check is your receipt. Avoid contact with skin.
Sanitized for your protection. Be sure each item is properly endorsed.
Sign here without admitting guilt. Slightly higher west of the
Mississippi. Employees and their families are not eligible. Beware of
dog. questions before the show. Limited time offer, call now to insure
prompt delivery. You must be present to win. No purchase necessary.
Processed at location stamped in code at top of carton. Shading within
a garment may occur. Use only in well-ventilated area. Keep away from
fire or flame. Replace with same type. Approved for veterans. Check
here if tax deductible. Some equipment shown is optional. Price does
not include taxes. No Canadian coins. Not recommended for children.
Prerecorded for this time zone. Reproduction strictly prohibited. No
solicitors. No alcohol, dogs, or horses. No anchovies unless otherwise
specified. Contents under pressure. Restaurant package, not for resale.
List at least two alternate dates. Call toll free before digging.
Driver does not carry cash. Some of the trademarks mentioned in this
product appear for identification purposes only. Close cover before
striking.
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17)From: Duece6x6@aol.com
Subject: Re: IR tagging
Law enforcement, govt and the military have been using IR tagging for years.
I purchased IR strobes from Schomer Tech. and IR Cyalume lite sticks and
stick on discs from a Army surplus dealer. They work very well with nite
vision equip.
THE DUECE
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18)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: Frying the phone lines
There's been a lot of talk lately about running high voltages through
the phone lines in a building as a sort of TSCM sweep. I recieved a
question earlier about them and thought some others might be interested
in the response:
Anyway, you can do the same thing with a stun-gun but there are problems
with the process. The process is normally done by opening all the lines
so that they are all running parrallel with no cross bridging type
connections. Telephones, fax machines, etc. Then you shoot the juice
to it. The theory being that if there is anything on the line, it'll
fry. True, if it's a parallel connection (one that connects to both
the tip and ring wires) it probably will and a "built in surge
protector" isn't going to hold a prayer. The downside is that you may
also fry the lines too, being a chain is only as strong as it's weakest
link. Some may feel that's a small price to pay. True, unless you burn
the building down in the process. My liability carrier wouldn't care
for the idea much. Now for the other downside. If it's a series
connect, (one that breaks only one line and connects to each of the
loose ends) and there's no grounding it's going to pass through and
never take a shock. You've got a false since of security and when you
hook up the telco lines again, they're still listening. BTW,the cheap
throw away transmitters are a series type.
--
Trace Carpenter Investigations ******
2926 Maple Ave., Ste. 200 Friends help you move;
Dallas, Texas 75201 Real friends help you move bodies.
214.828.4520 ******
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19)From: Lawrence Wood <lwood1@cc.mcafee.com>
Subject: PHILOSOPHIES
* If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you
tried.
* A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.
* Experience is something you don't get until just after you
need it.
* For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
* He who hesitates is probably right.
* Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.
* No one is listening until you make a mistake.
* Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view.
* The colder the X-ray table, the more of your body is
required on it.
* The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness
of the bread.
* The severity of the itch is proportional to the reach.
* To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from
many is research.
* To succeed in politics, it is often necessary to rise above
your principles.
* Two wrongs are only the beginning.
* You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive.
* The problem with the gene pool is that there is no
lifeguard.
* Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life.
* The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to
catch up.
* A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.
* If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've
never tried before.
* Change is inevitable....except from vending machines.
* Don't sweat petty things....or pet sweaty things.
* A fool and his money are soon partying.
* Money can't buy love. But it CAN rent a very close
imitation.
* Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow.
* Always try to be modest. And be damn proud of it!
* If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple of
payments.
* How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise my hands....
* Attempt to get a new car for your spouse--it'll be a great
trade!
* Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic
route.
* I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.
* Everybody repeat after me....."We are all individuals."
* Death to all fanatics!
* Guests who kill talk show hosts--On the last Geraldo.
* Chastity is curable, if detected early.
* Don't be sexist; broads hate that!
* Love may be blind, but marriage is a real eye-opener.
* Hell hath no fury like the lawyer of a woman scorned.
* Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of checks.
* Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.
* Eagles may soar, but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines.
* Borrow money from pessimists--they don't expect it back.
* Beware of geeks bearing gifs.
* Half the people you know are below average.
* 99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
* 42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot.
* A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so
good.
And finally....
* If at first you don't succeeed, then skydiving definitely
isn't for you....
LHW
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20)From: "mage2" <mage2@swbell.net>
Subject: ICQ
Hi i just wanted to know how all was useing ICQ.
so if you use it tell me some how.
my # is 1627040
mage2 =X
281.Texas.USA
"Just Because Your Paranoid Doesn't Mean
They're Not After You" K.S.
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21)From: Blakkr@aol.com
Subject: Re: checking credit card numbers
I have several programs which check cards
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22)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Spread Spectrum Surveillance Modules (fwd)
I thought this may be of interest to the list. My apologies if the line
spacing in the below article is mutilated in any way; those things happen.
===========================================
I will be taking off early this week so I can get
a good start on the holiday this weekend. Happy 4th of July!!
===============
New Spread Spectrum Surveillance Modules
</bold>There are some new spread spectrum products coming into the US
by way of China, and are starting to show up in Spy Shops on the West
coast, Chicago, and Miami area.
Two sided, four layer, surface mount PCB, several RF and audio IC's,
several pots, coils, etc. Device is a raw module, designed for covert
installations in an office or SOHO environment.
SM connector for antenna, micro molex connector for power and
computer/serial interface.
PCB is 1.5 mm wide, 3.25 mm long, and .5mm thick.
Products are all based on a cordless telephone chip set, 780 Mhz to 980
Mhz, Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum (BPSK/QPSK?).
Analysis of RF section indicates good response from 610 Mhz to 1090
Mhz.
Serial data rates between 56 kb/s and 784 kb/s (12 full audio channels
capable).
Devices have a two way RS422 serial port to facilitate setup prior to
field usage.
Programmed RF power levels range is spec'd between 50mw and 250mw,
suspect the circuits will operate as low as 5mw. Evaluation of the RF
amp indicates that RF section should support a full watt of power with
no problem.
Recommended voltage is 3/6vdc, but circuit should work fine on 9 or
12vdc.
Connections for two or three wire transducers. Audio path is thru
pre-amp, compander, CODEC, and controller. Looks like it can support
two elements, each with its own tunable preselector.
Large amount of 60 hz filtering, suspect they were originally designed
for installation into power strips (APC, Best, Woods, etc).
Look for the low level multihump signature on the spectrum analyser,
and take a REAL hard look at all surge protectors.
Be sure to "box" all electrical artifacts encountered on a TSCM sweep.
Well engineered, suspect cost to manuf. is under $35, should be
popular, most of the spy shops are selling these for $1500 to $3000.
More details to follow after the holiday, should have an update by that
time regarding the VLF devices being built by Thompson, and E-Systems.
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) What is this? 77M
02) Telephone info resource
03) Mitnick Gets 22 Months
04) Intercepting office calls is breach of privacy
05) Effect of phone tap on isdn connection?
06) Active Tempest Countermeasures
07) Phone # decoder
08) cgi-bin
09) Other use for pager?
10) Listserve Help
11) Your Constitution--Under Attack by US Government
12) Corporate Investigations-Where to Look!
13) Lets talk Key stroke loggers
14) Site to search for an unlisted phone number?
15) Re: Martin Pask's response
16) Re: Telephone voltages
17) Please reply
18) Network question
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1)From: Jose A Duarte <Jose_A_Duarte@ibm.net>
Subject: What is this? 77M
O.K. So I found this little box that says 77M THE TRACER. What is it?
I know is designed to do something with phone lines but I don't know what.
It has two alligator clips and a phone jack connector on it. It also has a
switch with an off, cont and tone position. Any ideas? I know it runs on a
9 volt battery of some sort.
If you have any ideas on what this is I would like to here.
Thanks in advance,
Jose Duarte
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2)From: TwoPaw <twopaw@vgernet.net>
Subject: Telephone info resource
A good place to ask questions about phone Co. related stuff is
The news group called alt.phreaking
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3)From: Peter Tonoli <anarchie@brimstone.suburbia.net>
Subject: Mitnick Gets 22 Months
Electronic outlaw gets 22 months
for hacking, parole violations
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Electronic outlaw Kevin Mitnick was sentenced
Friday to nearly two years in prison for parole violations and using
stolen cellular phone numbers to dial into computer databases.
U.S. District Judge Mariana Pfaelzer sentenced Mitnick to 14 months
for parole violations and eight months for his guilty plea to
possession of cloned cellular phone numbers.
After serving the prison sentence, Mitnick will placed on supervised
probation. During that time, Mitnick is forbidden from possessing any
computer equipment, software or cellular phones and from having a job
in which he has access to computers, unless he gets prior approval
from his probation officer.
"I think these conditions are appropriate given his prior hacking
activities and cellular phone fraud activities," said Assistant U.S.
Attorney Chris Painter.
But defense attorney Donald Randolph said he was considering filing an
appeal to the conditions because they were too broad for someone
living "in this computer-driven world."
The judge declined his request to define the word "computer," Randolph
said.
"The letters of those conditions would require Mr. Mitnick to live an
Amish-like existence until his supervision is over ... I have no doubt
that the court only intended to restrict Mr. Mitnick in his computer
hacking activities."
Mitnick has been in jail since his February 1995 arrest in Raleigh,
N.C., following an investigation and cross-country manhunt, with a trap
sprung by Tsutomo Shimomura, an expert in computer security.
Mitnick pleaded guilty last year to using 15 stolen cellular phone
numbers to dial into computer databases in North Carolina.
Mitnick consented to moving the case to his home state of California.
He is awaiting trial on 25 counts of computer and wire fraud,
possessing unlawful access devices, damaging computers and
intercepting electronic messages in an unrelated case.
Mitnick has pleaded innocent to those charges. If convicted, he could
face an additional five to ten years in prison, Painter said.
He is accused of damaging computers and stealing millions of dollars
in software from high-tech companies, damaging University of Southern
California computers and using stolen computer passwords.
The indictment follows an investigation by a national task force of
FBI, NASA and federal prosecutor high-tech experts. The affected
companies are Novell, Motorola, Nokia, Fujitsu and NEC.
A trial date hasn't been set.
---
We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce
the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know
this is not true.
--Robert Wilensky, University of California
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4)From: MichaelP <papadop@peak.org>
Subject: Intercepting office calls is breach of privacy
Here's some new legal analysis from Europe about worker privacy -
This English policewoman entered into sex discrimination proceedings
against her employer police force and other authorities, They retaliated
by listening to her private phone conversations on both her home and
office phones.
Unlike the US where the Supreme Ct has ruled that you have no expectation
of privacy when you use the employer's phone, the employee is declared to
have the right to respect for his/her private life and correspondence.
IF you want to know more, read on.
============================================
London Times July 3 1997
Intercepting office telephone calls is breach of privacy
Halford v United Kingdom
(Case No 73/1996/692/884)
[Judgment June 25]
Interception of telephone calls from an office in Merseyside Police
Headquarters was a breach of the right of privacy.
The European Court of Human Rights held that there had been violations
of both articles 8 and 13 of the European Convention on Human Rights
in respect of Ms Halford's complaints that telephone calls made from
her office in Merseyside Police Headquarters had been intercepted in
breach of her right to respect for her private life and correspondence
and that she had not had available to her any effective remedy for
that complaint.
Article 8 of the Convention provides:
"1 Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life,
his home and his correspondence.
"2 There shall be no interference by a public authority with the
exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law
and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national
security, public safety or the economic well being of the country, for
the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or
morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others."
Article 13 provides: "Everyone whose rights and freedoms as set forth
in [the] Convention are violated shall have an effective remedy before
a national authority notwithstanding that the violation has been
committed by persons acting in an official capacity."
Ms Alison Halford was born in 1940 and live in the Wirral. In May 1983
she was appointed assistant chief constable with the Merseyside Police
and as such was the highest ranking female police officer in the
United Kingdom.
After she had failed on several occasions to be appointed to a more
senior post, in 1990 she commenced proceedings against the Home Office
and Merseyside Police Authority in the industrial tribunal alleging
discrimination on the ground of sex. She withdrew her complaint in
August 1992 following an agreement under which she was to retire from
the police force and receive ex gratia payments totalling £15,000.
Ms Halford alleged that certain members of the Merseyside Police
Authority launched a campaign against her in response to her
discrimination complaint. That took the form, inter alia, of leaks to
the press, the bringing of disciplinary proceedings against her and
the interception of her telephone calls.
For the purposes of the case before the Court, the UK Government
accepted that there was a reasonable likelihood that calls made from
her office telephones had been intercepted but did not accept that any
such likelihood had been established in relation to calls made from
her home telephone.
In December 1991, Ms Halford complained to the Interception of
Communications Tribunal. In February 1992 the tribunal informed her
that it was satisfied that there had been no contravention of the
Interception of Communications Act 1985 in relation to her home
telephone, but, under the terms ot the Act, it was not empowered to
specify whether that was because there had been no interception or
because there had been an interception which had been carried out
pursuant to a warrant in accordance with the Act.
In a letter to Mr David Alton, MP, Ms Halford's member of Parliament,
the Home Office explained that eavesdropping by the Merseyside Police
on their own internal telephone system fell outside the scope of the
1985 Act and would not require a warrant.
The application to the European Commission of Human Rights which was
lodged on April 22, 1992, was declared admissible on March 2, 1995.
Having attempted unsuccessfully to secure a friendly settlement, the
Commission drew up a report on April 18, 1996 in which it established
the facts and expressed the opinion that there had been violations of
both articles 8 and 13 in relation to the applicant's office
telephones (26 votes to 1); that there had been no violations of
articles 8, 10 or 13 in respect of her home telephone (unanimously);
that it was not necessary to examine separately her complaint under
article 10 in relation to her office telephones (unanimously), and,
finally, that there had been no violation of article 14 (unanimously).
In its judgment, the European Court of Human Rights held as follows:
A Article 8
1 Applicability of article 8
It was clear from the Court's case law that telephone cells made from
business premises as well as from the home might be covered by the
notions of "private life" and "correspondence" within the meaning of
article 8: see, for example, the judgments of Klass and Others on
September 6, 1978 (Series A No 28); Malone v UK of August 2, 1985 and
Kruslin v France; Huvig v France (The Times May 3, 1990; Series A No
176).
There was no evidence of any warning having been given to Ms Halford,
as a user of the internal telecommunications system operated at
Merseyside Police Headquarters, that calls made on that system would
be liable to interception and the Court considered that she would have
had a reasonable expectation of privacy for such calls.
Article 8 was therefore applicable to the complaints relating to both
the office and home telephones.
2 The office telephones:
(i) Existence of an interference
There was a reasonable likelihood, as the UK had conceded, that calls
made by Ms Halford from her office had been intercepted by the
Merseyside Police, probably with the primary aim of gathering material
to assist in the defence of the sex discrimination proceedings brought
against them. That constituted an interference by a public authority
within the meaning of article 8.2.
(ii) Whether the interference was in accordance with the law
The Interception of Communications Act 1985 did not apply to internal
communications systems operated by public authorities, such as that at
Merseyside Police Headquarters, and there was no other provision in
domestic law to regulate the interception of calls on such systems.
Since English law provided no protection to Ms Halford, it could not
be said that the interference was in accordance with the law as
required by article 8. There had therefore been a violation of that
article.
3 The home telephone: Existence of an interference
The Court did not consider that the evidence established a reasonable
likelihood that calls made on the telephone in Ms Halford's home had
been intercepted. In view of that conclusion, it did not find a
violation of article 8 in relation to the home telephone.
B Article 13
The Court found a violation of article 13 in respect of Ms Halford's
complaint about the interception of calls made on her office
telephones, in view of the fact that the 1985 Act did not apply to the
internal telephone system operated by Merseyside Police and there was
no other avenue in domestic law for her complaint.
lt did not find a violation of article 13 in relation to her complaint
concerning her home telephone, because article 13 only required an
effective remedy before a national authority in respect of arguable
claims under the Convention.
Ms Halford, however, had not adduced enough evidence to make out an
arguable claim. Judge Russo dissented on that point.
C Articles 10 and 14
The allegations in relation to articles 10 and 14 were tantamount to
restatements of the complaints under article 8. It was not therefore
necessary for the Court to consider them.
D Article 50
The Court awarded Ms Halford £10,000 in compensation for the intrusion
into her privacy and £600 towards her personal expenses incurred in
bringing the case to Strasbourg. It also awarded £25,000 of the
£142,875 legal costs and expenses she had claimed.
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5)From: amunn@pfmc.net (Alan J. Munn)
Subject: Effect of phone tap on isdn connection?
I am not a telephone expert.
I had an isdn line (2 b channels). Both b channels were connected to a
Motorola BitSurfr Pro terminal adaptor. One b channel served my computer.
The other b channel became an analog line for an analog telephone.
I then wanted a second isdn line. Resistance on my existing line was so
high that the resistance had to be reduced much before I could get the
second isdn line (an isdn tech employed by my RBOC [NYNEX] told me). I
removed some of the telephone gadgets I had on the line to reduce
resistance. Also, the telephone wiring circuitry at my site was redone by
the isdn tech to reduce the number of connections and thus to reduce
resistance. When resistance was low enough, the tech installed the second
isdn line.
Soon after, I had a lot of trouble with the isdn connection. For example,
I would often lose my connection to my isp soon after connecting to that
isp. The isp is technically expert at being an isp.
If an NYPD cop (experienced at tapping pots lines) had tapped my phone,
would that explain the telephone problems? What I am thinking about is
whether an intermittent phone tap might raise resistance enough to damage
my isdn connection. The cop might be great at tapping pots lines but he
might not have realized how easily my isdn connection could damage my
telephone service by raising resistance even a little. Is this guess
(about a phone tap causing the problem) technically realistic? Are NYPD
cops technically skilled enough to tap telephone lines without damaging
isdn service of the person being tapped?
Please do not discuss whether anyone (NYPD or otherwise) actually tapped a
phone line. I am concerned with the technical issue of whether the
problems I experienced (in light of actual techniques used by NYPD phone
tappers at a residential site) are likely to result from an NYPD phone tap
if phone line resistance were sort of high to begin with.
Alan J. Munn free court calendars on the Internet
PO Box 750839
Flushing, NY 11375-0839 USA
http://www.ajmunn.com/ amunn@pfmc.net (718) 261-1045
+++Moderator's Note+++
:-) As an ex-NYPD electronic surveillance tech I can assure you the men
and women in the unit responsible for electronic surveillance ARE
technically proficient and highly trained in their craft. I would look elsewhere for your problem...
P.S. I won't discuss your problem with anyone ;-)
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6)From: zentara@mindspring.com (zentara)
Subject: Active Tempest Countermeasures
Hi,
Alot of interest seems to be drawn to Tempest, and how to prevent
someone from scanning your screen and keyboard.
I saw some software called Blowfish Advanced for 95.
It has some "active Tempest countermeasures" built in.
These include:
Rapidly flashing red, green, and blue colors over the password input
dialog box, supposedly to confuse and video scanners nearby.
Also it rapidly cycles the Scroll Lock key on and off during the
password input dialog. The theory behind this is that each keystroke
can be detected as a sequence of unique clicking noises by Tempest
equipment. The Scroll Lock cycling supossedly camoflauges the real
keystrokes.
My question is can a separate circuit be designed as an active
Tempest countermeasure? What square wave frequencies need to be
generated to camoflauge the keyboard signals, and what type of
video signal would have to be generated to hide the video?
What power levels would be necessary? 500 milliwatts?
I envision a small transistor-radio sized unit, which you would turn
on when you wanted Tempest protection. This is basically a jammer,
and I figure the FCC wouldn't like it, so is there some other way
of achieving the same effect legally, such as running a big blender
full of water? What type of motor's generate the best interference?
I suppose big DC motors with carbon brushes?
Any odd thoughts would be welcome.
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7)From: Jose A Duarte <Jose_A_Duarte@ibm.net>
Subject: Phone # decoder
Does anyone know where I can get a program that will decode a recorded
audible phone number into a visual phone number. Basicly a program that
allows you to play a phone number and it will decode it for you.
Thanks in advance,
Jose Duarte
+++Moderator's Note+++
Try WinTone. You can get it at: http://www.thecodex.com/faq.html
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8)From: "The Reptile" <reptyl@hotmail.com>
Subject: cgi-bin
This is a question for all the hackers and computer specialists out
there. I have just realized that if i was able too change my ip address
while surfing , i could acess any of the forbidden cgi-bin directorys. I
know www.anonymizer.com changes it , but not to a specfic number and it
takes FOREVER on my computer. So if you know how to do this , or know a
way to acess this directory , please reply.
------------------------------------------------------------
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving
whiskey and car keys to teenage boys"
P.J. O'Rourke
The Reptyle
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9)From: PRV8EYE@aol.com
Subject: Other use for pager?
I have a Motorola BPR-2000 voice pager that receives at 35.2000 mhz.
I think the voice paging service is no longer available.
Is there anything fun that a non tech type can do with this thing other than
listen to the white noise?
Gus
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10)From: Mark Alan Davidson <mdavidso@mail.orion.org>
Subject: Listserve Help
I am receiving e-mail, as shown below, at least a dozen times a day, and
I'm unable to find where it is coming from.
I subscribe to your list and to the dc-stuff list. Other members of the
dc-stuff list are also receiving this same e-mail many times a day, and
they are also subscribers to your list (which only makes sense, if you
know what dc-stuff is about <G> ).
I believe someone has subscribed your list to another list which would
cause the strange e-mail deliveries.
I could be completely wrong in my assumption, but if you can let me know
if other subscribers are experiencing the same, then I may be able to
correct the situation.
Thank you for any assistance you can offer.
-mad
+++Moderator's Note+++
Any list members having similiar problems? Let me know and I will try to fix...
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11)From: Scott <sdykstra@erols.com>
Subject: Your Constitution--Under Attack by US Government
K U B B Y For G O V E R N O R
98 CALIFORNIA 98
email: kubby@alpworld.com
Fax: 916 581-5641
July 4th, Nineteen Hundred and Ninety Seven-
To all internet comrades:
In keeping the spirit of July 4th, I have taken this out of The
Washington Post with hopes that YOU will read it. If you will
read closely, this article explains how Constitutional Amendments
may affect you in the future.
The government is constantly attempting to chip away at it with
all its might.
This country was formed by our founding fathers and this is the ORIGINAL
document they put in place on how the country should be operated. The
government believes that you have too many rights and they don't like
that. The government wants to re-write the Constitution so that YOU have no
freedoms or rights left.
The right to bear arms, the right to personal privacy, the right to
freedom of speech. (The right to be left alone!!) You may not agree
that this issue affects you, but contrar my friend. It does and you
won't know it until your Constitution rights are stolen............
Happy July 4th to you all. May God keep us free from government power,
intrusive tactics, and tyranny that we are all witnessing today, at an ever
growing, unprecedented rate. It was written to protect YOU from YOUR government.
-------------------Thomas Jefferson------------------------
"We hold these truths to be self-evident:
"That all of Us are created equal;
"That We are endowed by Our Most Holy Creator
with certain unalienable Rights;
"That among these are the Rights to
Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness;
"That, to secure these Rights,
Governments are instituted among Us,
deriving their just powers from Our consent;
"And that, whenever any Form of Government
becomes destructive of these ends,
it is Our Right to alter or abolish it,
and to institute new Government,
laying its foundation on such principles
and organizing its powers in such form,
as to Us shall seem most likely to effect
Our safety, and Our happiness.
"And for the support of this Declaration,
with a firm reliance on the protection
of Divine Providence, We mutually pledge
to each other Our Lives, Our Fortunes, and
Our sacred Honor.
"Amen."
----------Article Wash Post---------------------
Fast and Loose With the Constitution:
The Washington Post
David S. Broder
On Independence Day, politicians will sing the praises of the Founders
and recite the blessings of the great documents they left as their legacy.
Too often, they forget their speeches the other 364 days of the year.
True, the Declaration of Independence remains pristine and unaltered, as
powerful a summons to the conscience of humanity as it was the monument it
left Thomas Jefferson's hand.
But the Constitution is something else. As Senator Dale Bumper (D-Ark),
remarked the other day, there is a constant threat that at the next moment,
"67 senators will agree it is just a rough draft" and think they can improve
on "the most sacred legal document in history."
Bumpers was speaking at at Capitol Hill news conference launching an or-
ganization called Citizens for the Constitution, a nonpartisan group dedi-
cated, in its words, "to educating the public on the danger on continuing,
unrestrained attempts to amend the Constitution."
In its charter, the new group pointed out that "in recent years....consti-
tutional amemdment proposals have become the favored first-step panacea for
all societal ills, rather than a solution of last resort." That is no exag-
geration.
In the first six months of this Congress, three proposed amendments came to
vote in the House and two others (on unrelated subjects) in the Senate.
Think of it: Only 17 amendments approved in the last 206 years but five
brought to a vote in the last 6 months.
Last week, on the day that the Supreme Court struck down a four-year-old law
grandly named the Religous Freedom Restoration Act, there was a virtual stampede of legislators to the television cameras, vying for sponsorship of a constitutional amendment to right this judicial wrong.
As it happened, Attorney Janet Reno was testifying that very morning in
favor of yet another amendment-this one to guarantee crime victims' rights.
It became part of President Clinton's agenda four months before the 1996 election, joining the grab bag of other mini-measures on which he campaigned.
All told, more that 100 constitutional amendments have been introduced so
far in this Congress, and the end is no where in sight.
When I asked the notably fair-minded chairman of the House and Senate Judi-
ciary Committees-Rep. Henry Hyde (R-Ill.) and Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah)- about
this rush to amend, they said the reflexive reach for constitutional remedies
concerned them. "We should not be remaking the Constitution like it was
silly putty", Hyde said.
But both pointed out that while many amendments are proposed, few are approved.
Only one of the five that reached the House and Senate floor so far this year got the required two-thirds majority-the flag-burning amendment in the House. Hatch argued that even though the others failed, "it is healthy for the country to have had the debate" on the balanced budget, term limits and campaign finance controls. "The political process works pretty well on this," Hyde said.
The 60 plus former government officials, prominent lawyers and the law prof-
fessors, historians and others are charter members of Citizens for the Consti-
tution say the trend is worrisome. Coming from all points of the ideological
compass, they made clear that their target is not any specific amendment but
rather the rush to satisfy short-term political imperatives by fidding with a
timeless charter.
The co-chairman of the organization, financed by the Twentieth Century Fund
and the Century Foundation, demonstrate the diverse nature of this save-the-
Constitution coalition. Former Illinois representative Abner J. Mikva, later
a federal judge and Clinton White House counsel, is a liberal Democrat; former
New Jersey representative James Courter, a conservative Republican.
Mikva quoted James Madison's admonition that amendments to such a compact and
delicately balanced charter should be reserved for "great and extraordinary
occassions." These days, he said, "it is scary what happens...Any time a popular cause arises, some member of Congress will throw in an amendment and whoosh, it's voted on."
That too is no exaggeration. The three amendments the House considered this
year were debated for a grand total of 16 hours and 23 minutes-less that 5 1/2
hours a piece.
Courter made a telling point when he observed that, increasingly, "constitutional amendments are being used to score debating points....or to drape a bloody shirt on a political opponent."
In urging Congress and the country to slow down and think twice before rewriting the Constitution, these folks are putting reason behind the Fourth
of July rhetoric.
(The phone number for Citizens for the Constitution is 202-862-7791)
Scott
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12)From: PI12900@aol.com
Subject: Corporate Investigations-Where to Look!
To the group, does anyone know the best way or avenue, to reach corporations
over the internet to market one's investigative services. I'm intrested in
the silicone valley area of Fremont/San Jose, California.
Thanks in advance.
Richard Harris
East Bay Detective Agency
Oakland, CA.
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13)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Lets talk Key stroke loggers
One upon a time....a man came to me (friend) and said "Cover your
face....cover your face...cover your face......." I covered my face....and he
hit me in the stomach. :-) old trick and I fell for it...(2 times in one
night actully).
Lets talk Key stroke loggers.
If the situation in hand makes it possible to take this aproach to get the
information you are looking for......consider it. It is called "Stratagy"
Install a "dummy" file in target's computer (9 of 10...it's YOUR own computer
right?) Call it something that will raise an eye. Not too "foward" with the name. It has to be FOUND...but not glowing in the dark obviuos. Just a suspicious looking file. I'de enter something like this in the file..
....*&^%R*&^%^%^$^%$^%$#@(_I_)$#%@#$@$%*(_)(_+(_)(*)(&^$$^#$%^#@$%@
Make it look like something is "there"....but encripted. Your target is
thinking...."Am I being logged??" It'll always be in HIS mind when he is
typing those love letters.
I'll put $10 on your target.....no longer says anything damaging via
computer. HE hits the phone at least ONE time.
The computer is not bugged......the phone is.
Another note: Caller ID users. Ever think about running a second unit
somplace on the line and comparing phone numbers of the 2 units? hmmmmmm :-)
PS- What you get...and what you GOT are 3 seperate things.
Augie
The most sophistacted of plans....
are the ones that work every time.
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14)From: CChrist373@aol.com
Subject: Site to search for an unlisted phone number?
Hello,
I haven't been adding much lately, been kinda busy. I,m doing so now
because I need a little help from other members.
Does anyone out there know of a site to search for an unlisted phone
number?.
I have found sites that do this anywhere from 15 dollars to a hundred (
what a rip )
I know there are ways to BS the phone company for this but I'm a bit rusty.
Plus they seem tohave gotten hip to some of the techniques.
What I'm looking for is a free site, aren't we all, that will run a search
like this.
BTW, anyone had any luck with the 555-1212 site? I haven't gotten anygood
results from them at all. Seems like its easier to get info from the net in
the movies and tv shows than in real life. Maybe I'm not good at this yet.
I like the show The Pretender and the main characte Jarod is always pulling
stuff of his computer. But, that is tv.
If anyone can help would you e mail me direct? I still have trouble with
downloading. I know, read the books. I probably will this winter when I'm not
so busy.
Thanks in advance......cchrist373@aol.com
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15)From: HtPursuit@aol.com
Subject: Re: Martin Pask's response
The answer is yes, both audio and video. With video being 2 camers per
location and audio being 1 mic per location and all having to be recorded. I
was all set to install cameras,mic and recorders using multiplexers to allow
a choice of camera view w/audio on playback, and a choice of camera
view/location w/audio during monitoring. The thing is I have been asked to
look at doing all this with a digtal system. I have never worked with digital
and havent a clue.
Thanks again in advance.
Bill
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16)From: "John " <XSAS@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Telephone voltages
In CP work we always use 'sanitised' telephones (phones that we know are
'clean'). We then just check out the actual wall box that you plug your phone
into. Check this with a volt meter and you should get as near as damn it 50
volts. If your phone is being 'tapped' by the Government then your wasting
your time as it will be monitored from your exchange.
Best regards,
XSAS
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17)From: tooshort2@webtv.net (cory traxler)
Subject: Please reply
i tried posting this on the survaillence list and only got one reply(it
didnt help any)some chatlines have a password that you create to allow
you access to chat,someone cracked my password and is threatning to do
troulble with it they changed my password so i can't even use that
handle,if i get a new account my handle must be changed,i treid talking
to the head people of it,and they said "there is no way of getting
anyone elses password" i need to know how to crack it,get my password
back,and change the password to something that will never be cracked
agian,please help.
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18)From: Lawrence Wood <lwood1@cc.mcafee.com>
Subject: Network question
when we access others on the network, do we only see what they are
currently seeing, or can we access the entire hard drive including
mapped drives they are authorized to log on, and see historical
stuff.
For example, if I wanted to see if a person has a habit if using
uncomplimentary terms in descriing their co-workers, would I be
able to search their Hard Drive to find instances of it.
Will we be completely invisible, no screen flicker or other
evidence that something/someone is doing this????
Sorry about the multiple post, but this is important.
This is really hot
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Electroncs Counter-measures, Inc.
02) More Valuable Information to share!
03) Re: Network Question
04) Re: Please Reply
05) Re: 77M
06) Intelligence Program Guide Online
07) Re: 77M
08) Re: lockpicking
09) Re: Seminar
10) Some Misc. Info
11) Re: 77M
12) Re: Effect of phone tap on isdn connection?
13) Re: able too change my ip address?
14) Re: cgi-bin
15) Re: Ammonium triiodide...
16) i.p. to domain name help
17) Re: What is this? 77M
18) Re: Corporate Investigations
19) What's this 77M response
20) About Keystroke and screen capture programs.
21) Active TEMPEST Countermeasures
22) Re: What is this? 77M
23) Re: Not getting the full list
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1)From: principal@connect.ab.ca
Subject: Electroncs Counter-measures, Inc.
Firstly, I would like to thank all those who provided a response to the
"DOGS" thread.
I follow all the postings relating to Walz and Daggett. Initially there was
reference to Bill Fischer, a Canadian from Calgary.
I spoke with him mid April. Since then I get a recording at his office,
Electroncs Counter-measusres Inc. stating he is in the US.
I would like to know what his role was in the sting operation? Is he still
in the US, detained or otherwise?
For the sake of promoting rumor please don't post unless the information you
have is solid. Any information at all I would appreciate an E-Mail.
Best regards
Principal
"A mind all logic is like a knife all blade.
It cuts the hand that uses it." - Tagore
+++Moderator's Note+++
According to the information I received (I won't mention source but it is solid) Bill Fischer setup Dagget & Walz with the help of M.L.Shannon the writer aka Shannon Michel. Evidently Fisher is working for the Feds setting up people interested in purchasing his cellular intercept equipment. M.L.Shannon aka Shannon Michel is evidently is working for them also because of a surveillance equipment deal that went bad in Mexico with some local dealers...
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2)From: Deborah Gulley <lawwoman@inch.com>
Subject: More Valuable Information to share!!
http://www.keyview.com/
keyview is a program that allows you to view all kinds of documents created by all kinds of programs. Up to 200 different kinds of files can be viewed with this program. It is similar to Lview and other such programs and it can be downloaded for a trial period of 30 days.
I have the full version and find it to be VERY useful.
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3)From: Marcus Blankenship <MarcusB@JELD-WEN.com>
Subject: Re: Network Question
Lawrence,
Please give more detailed information. What kind of network, computers,
protocols, OS, etc. Are you using a program like PC anywhere, or some
other third party software? Is this NT or 95 or Unix?
Also, realize that most applications store their information in
something other than ASCII. Simple grepping just won't work in these
cases.
Help us help you.
Thanks.
Marcus Blankenship Jeld-Wen, Inc
Application Developer 541-882-3451
marcusb@jeld-wen.com www.jeld-wen.com
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote
programs, the first woodpecker would destroy
civilization. -Some Guy
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4)From: Marcus Blankenship <MarcusB@JELD-WEN.com>
Subject: Re: Please Reply
tooshort2,
I think probably someone 'guessed' your password on the chat lines, and
then changed it. You have not given us enough information to be of any
help to you, as much as we would like to be. I suggest you cancel your
account, pick a new login, and pick a password with numbers, letters
and symbols combined. Don't use any part of your name, or anything else
that someone might guess.
Good luck.
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5)From: Marcus Blankenship <MarcusB@JELD-WEN.com>
Subject: Re: 77M
It might be one half of a fox/hound set, which is used to tracing wires
to their source. Does it have a little metal cone/rod/short antenna
sticking out of the top?
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6)From: John Pike <johnpike@fas.org>
Subject: Intelligence Program Guide Online
The initial build of our Intelligence Program Guide is online @
http://www.fas.org/irp/program/
This program guide includes profiles of and links to resources
on several hundred programs spanning the entire intelligence
cycle, from tasking and collection to processing and dissemination.
We do not make any great claim to novelty in terms of the
bulk of the text of the individual program profiles, which is for
the most part directly derived from existing program web sites,
or from associated program documentation, and is in any event
derived from UNCLASS sources.
There are, however, several other points of novelty to this
resource which are of interest.
1 - Within the limits of classification and our level of effort
in building the thing, we believe that this is the first time that
a reasonably complete guide to all of the various systems that
are involved in the intelligence cycle has been assembled in
one place. The prior state of the art, notably Jeff Richelson's
extremely estimable efforts, as well as the various Janes
publications, have tended to focus on the collection end of
things, whereas we have given equal attention to the rather
more interesting processing and dissemination systems.
2 - In our opinion, this reflects not so much the shortcomings
of prior efforts as it does a profound change in the way the
intelligence community [or at least large stretches of it]
are doing business. The whole COTS/OSA effort over the
past three years or so has opened up large sections of the
intelligence cycle that previously were utterly obscured
behind the Green Door.
3 - The fact that many intelligence-related agencies and
contractors are putting descriptions of their warez online
has also immeasurably aided our effort, as previously the
task of assembling hardcopy descriptions of these programs
would have represented a not-inconsiderable challenge.
These claims to fame notwithstanding, we recognize
several shortcomings to the existing build of this resource
we hope to remedy over time:
1 - While we are more or less 90% confident that we have
90% completeness with 90% accuracy, we recognize that
with each of these figures of merit it is always the last 10%
that is the hard part, so we surely have some loose ends that
will take a bit of time to tidy up.
2 - We have organized the program guide according to the
major phases of the intelligence cycle, but the current schema
is not entirely satisfactory. For instance, we have aggregated
both primary processing and secondary exploitation into a single
"Processing" category, and it might be more useful to display
these separately. We have also found that in practice different
sources parse the intelligence cycle into different stages, and
that in more than a few cases the functionality of specific
systems is only loosely coupled to such formal schema.
3 - Currently the individual system profiles largely consist of
narrative descriptions. In the fullness of time, we would like
to add standard datasheets that would display connections
between and among systems, as well as provide information
on contractor participation etc etc.....
Feedback and corrections would be most appreciated.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
John Pike
Federation of American Scientists
307 Massachusetts Ave. NE
Washington, DC 20002
V 202-675-1023, F 202-675-1024, http://www.fas.org/spp/
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7)From: B P Hall <bhall@elite.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: 77M
>O.K. So I found this little box that says 77M THE TRACER. What is it?
>I know is designed to do something with phone lines but I don't know what.
It is almost certainly a cable trace toner. Conected to one end of a cable
pair, via jack or crocs it will put a tone on the cable enabling you to
identify the path it takes through a building (the cont setting tells you if
the pair is open or closed) usually the tone is killed on shorting out the
pair it is attached to enabling you to positively identify a specific pair.
You will require a receiver to listen to the tone (these usualy have the
added benefit of being able to listen to voice traffic on an active line!)
Bruce Hall
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8)From: thesaint@netspace.net.au
Subject: Re: lockpicking
Dear augie,
for thos anoying moments when you turn the plug the wrong way you should use
a "plug follwer" tool, not sure what you call it over there. It's a tool
that spins the plug in the opposite direction without resetting the pins.
Nice trick huh ?
Regards
Johan Erlandsson
"Nothing is as safe as it seems"
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9)From: thesaint@netspace.net.au
Subject: Re: Seminar
I will definetly be flying out from Sydney to attend, I already have my
plane ticket, see everyone there.
By the way, for those of you who were interested in the PC Card we have made
that transmits on screen activity to a remote location and records all data
on a VHS tape, I am making arangements to demo it at the seminar.
If there are any questions prior to that date email me direct at any time.
Cheers everyone !
Johan Erlandsson
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10)From: patriot <patriot@pop.wwa.com>
Subject: Some Misc. Info
Here's some misc. addresses and such I've collected over some time...
::a list of many search engines for locating people
http://www.home-finders.com/info-surf/peoplefind.htm
::get directions to anywhere or a map of an area
http://www.mapquest.com/
::search up to 6 search engines at a time
http://www.isleuth.com/
::search ftp's for particular names of files
http://www-ns.rutgers.edu/htbin/archie
::a place that carries "grey" material books
http://www.atomicbooks.com/
::more grey reading material and videos
http://www.paladin-press.com/
::law enforcement catalog
http://www.nic-inc.com/~nic/
::force ten...sells lock picks among many other things
found it to be somewhat cheaper in price on many items
http://www.force-ten.com/
::more grey material
http://www.interisland.com/contents.htm
::yup more grey material and videos
http://www.loompanics.com/
::spectra press and consumertronics in my experience have been not too
informative...most of the info I recieved can be found on the internet
::telecommunications supplies
http://www.sandman.com/index.html
::Delta manuals
pob 1751 El Dorado, AR 71731
::Cloak and Dagger Books
states :world's largest dealer in out of print espionage books"non-fiction
9 eastman avenue
Bedford, NH 03110
::Nuts & Volts Magazine
pretty cool electronics mag with alot of ads
714-371-8497
::2600 magazine
all about hacking computers, electronics etc..
po box 752
middle island, NY 11953
::To stop ANI
900-stopper (1-900-786-7737) $2.00 a minute
supposed to be able to call 800-stopper for information but will not go
through from my calling area? maybe someone else here will let us know
::For international re-routing
1-900-run-well
$5.00 a minute
I have no idea if these are still up and working. But I do know that
disposable phone cards are not the answer either for a "quick" re-route.
Well I hope these might help somebody out there. I am not associated
with any of these organizations. If anyone is looking for anything in
particular, post on the list and maybe I'll be able to help.
BTW all these addresses are in the U.S.
Cheers...
AL
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11)From: boersema@mail.gte.net (Scott Boersema)
Subject: Re: 77M
>>>>
O.K. So I found this little box that says 77M THE TRACER. What is it?
I know is designed to do something with phone lines but I don't know what.
It has two alligator clips and a phone jack connector on it. It also has a
switch with an off, cont and tone position. Any ideas? I know it runs on a
9 volt battery of some sort.
If you have any ideas on what this is I would like to here.
Thanks in advance,
Jose Duarte
<<<<
Hi-
I am no longer lurking. This sounds to me like the sending unit on a Toner.
The part you found sends a tone down the line you connect it to. There is
then a wand that is used to pick up the signal through induction. It is
used for isolating a wire when you are not sure where it goes. The whole
set runs about $100 depending on where you get it.
Hope this helps.
Scott Boersema
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12)From: Alan Gatlin <gatlina@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Effect of phone tap on isdn connection?
You didn't mention whether your isdn connection was through a T/A or network
connection. Depending on what you have it sure sounds like the NT1
interface, which is the "U" part of the communications connection is
failing. What this item does, which is often made a part of T/As and
routers, is multiplexing and conversion back to a 4 wire system. With a S/T
interface the phone company or you can hook multiple devices (up to six
depending on the telco each with their own phone numbers (see National
Standards 1 & 2 for more info here). So either interface, U or S/T has to
have a NT1 and it may be defective. The NT1 also provides power to the line
unilt POTS lines where the telco does this.
Anyway, isdn being REALLY different than analog means that if you are being
tapped, it is by someone with LOTS of money and skill...
Alan
PS I have been "bad" and lurking for sometime. Anyway I provide consulting
in LAN to WAN security, mostly in the form of expert witness testimony and
system evaluations. I also publish a free weekly newsletter, NETWORK-NEWS
which covers computer security. Drop me a note if you would like a copy.
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13)From: ikkles@xchange.apana.org.au ()
Subject: Re: able too change my ip address
> there. I have just realized that if i was able too change my ip address
> while surfing , i could acess any of the forbidden cgi-bin directorys. I
> know www.anonymizer.com changes it , but not to a specfic number and it
What sites like www.anonymizer.com, or other proxies do, is that they access
your target site for you, and pass whatever they get back to you. So each time
you use www.anonymizer, it will appear as if www.anonymizer is trying to access
the cgi-bin directory. You are not changing your ip address, but borrowing
someone else's.
But chances are that the cgi-bin directory is restricted to either the local
network, or no-one at all is allowed to use it, so these proxy sites are not
very useful (in this case they aren't; if you wanted to access a site banned
from your country, or banned from your own site, a proxy could be *very*
useful :) )
Another thing you could try is changing the ip address your requests appear to
come from. So, although you might be connecting from 10.0.0.1, you might send
requests for a particular cgi-bin script which appear to come from 20.0.0.1,
which is allowed to access the cgi-bin directory. The problem with this is
that the server sends all its replys to 20.0.0.1, not to you :) This may
still be useful if you only care about what you send, and not what you receive
(the cgi-bin/phf bug would still be exploitable via this method). This is
called IP spoofing.
Perhaps you can get around this by messing with the server's network's
nameserver, to make it appear as if you are part of their network, but most
likely you will need access to a machine on their network. Then you can send
the request from that machine, and it will come back to that machine.
For IP spoofers and other spiff tools, look at www.7thsphere.com, in the hpavc
shop. Many of them need a unix shell to run, so.. install linux! :)
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14)From: Joanne Sullivan <joanne@ct.net>
Subject: Re: cgi-bin
Hi, Thank you very much for all the time and effort you put into
your site, I do appreciate it. Re:
8)From: "The Reptile" <reptyl@hotmail.com>
Subject: cgi-bin
I download a portion of a site or all of it with Web Snake from
http://www.anawave.com. I can bypass some password sites with
this software, and it allows you to identify yourself anyway
you wish or anonomously.
Joanne Sullivan
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15)From: Shoji Bushido <shoji@deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: Ammonium triiodide...
Ammonium triiodide can be extremely radical!!!
The amount of a cigarette ash can be dangerous and very unstable. If the
tinctured (alcohol) iodine is soaked over night in a high grade ammonia,
the dried iodine crystals can detonate from the vibration of
a fly. The container used, even when filled with water can still explode
on a hot day. So don't use glass!
What experience and the hospital taught me about being safe with this
stuff when testing for use between tinctured & non-tinctured iodine
crystals and the grade of ammonia is:
As long as its submerged in ammonia it won't detonate
Once dry, Be Carefull!
Use a plastic cup to mix it in
Bury the cup until needed or use a solution of sodium thiosulfate to
neutralize and clean the iodine stains.
Wear Goggles!
And never under estimate the potency because the other tests didn't work
or were mild reactions.
Can be used for detonator caps. An early warning device to detect
intruders by sprinkling wet crystals around, once dry they pop when
anyone walks up. Smash the crystals to a powder before soaking and paint
it on knobs, light switchs. It snaps and pops, the only side effects are
IO stains.
Shoji...
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16)From: "jon melberg" <jonm@usa.net>
Subject: i.p. to domain name help
I am looking for a program or a free web site that when entering in an i.p.
address it will return an domain name and or info about that i.p. address
and the
person logged on.
also,
the web site www.usa.net is a free remail service,
if any one has info on them like if they could be Gov. run to keep an eye
on the Internet or if they are one of the remailer I have herd of that spy
on you
by the Gov. or sniffers or the like.
is this a good and safe remail service ??
and is there some that any one knows of that are not safe or secure so
to watch out for them ??
thanks ..
later......
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17)From: HARLE94230@aol.com
Subject: Re: What is this? 77M
Dear Jose
What you have is a line tracing tool used to ID phone phone lines and if you
have ever seen the spaggettie mess left from the last guy who spliced into
the cable you will want hold on to it
To auggie
I was on a job the other day and found I didnt have my master key to a
location that is 50 miles away from home so I did what any self respecting
exchildhood burglar would do.I looked in my van to see what materials I could
utilize and thought jeeze if the local sherrif ever stopped me . he could
arrest me for carrying b&e tools but owell I'm legit so i took a lenth of
silfoss solder which is about 1/8" wide and fairly thin took a flat file
and thinned it out some more then took two crescent wrenches and bent a hook
on the end and took another piece and filed one end to almost a point and
bent it over to a 90 degree angle and left the other end unfiled and bent it
the opposite direction so it was reversible as i could not remember which
way the bolt turned, then put a slight twist to it in the middle, the alloy
is strong enough to be ridgid but enough flex for the tensioner well it
started to get light by that time and people in the complex are starting to
go to work and paying quite a bit of attention to me so just as i am turning
the bolt the realtor in the complex comes by who also owns the complex and
says I have a key to that if you need to get in. the lock was called a
uchange lock.(total time spent 1 hour) used the same tools that day to open a
file cabinet mabe not "Al Monday" but not to bad for a dumb furnace man with
dark tinted windows . I
enjoy your posts keep them coming and to the moderator I would be interested
in a complete video including the exhibits
Thanks,Bob
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18)From: Greg Caldwell <caldwell@nvi.net>
Subject: Re: Corporate Investigations
12) From: PI12900@aol.com
Subject: Corporate Investigations-Where to Look!
To the group, does anyone know the best way or avenue, to reach corporations
over the internet to market one's investigative services. I'm intrested in
the silicone valley area of Fremont/San Jose, California.
Richard Harris
East Bay Detective Agency
----------------
Richard:
I hope I am not being presumptuous in attempting an answer. I have been a PI for 20 years; the last 12 of which were spent specializing in corporate investigations & security management.
To my knowledge, (and I will anxiously await other responses to your question from the list), there is no magic elixir, on the Internet or otherwise. Marketing our services to corporations comes with some inherent problems and side issues.
First and foremost is that I can count on one finger of one hand the number of corporate clients I received from my marketing efforts -- and they responded four years after I sent a brochure out! It is a major ski resort in Colorado that has now been a client for nine years. Every other client I have gotten has been from the most important and best form of advertising: Word Of Mouth.
The CEO is not going to look in the yellow pages, nor, I doubt, on the Internet to solve his problem. He may look for ideas there, but for the most part, he is going to talk to his peers or his attorneys. There is a very fundamental reason for this. A CEO is not going to talk to (and, therefore, advertise) to ANYONE that his management is not controlling or preventing a problem. Furthermore, if it is a publicly traded company, think of the consequential effect on the stock if the CEO started shopping around for a forensic auditor or an expert in sexual harassment litigation.
No, the CEO usually says to Fred, (his friend and the CEO or another company) with whom he plays golf once a week, "Say Fred, when you had that problem last year, what investigative firm did you use? Were they any good? Would you use them again?"
Then, if you get the referral, you can't discuss it or advertise it even after you have completed the case because that is also why you got the referral; you treat sensitive corporate matters with the confidentiality they deserve and that your clients pay for.
Fully 95% of my corporate clients, which range from ski resorts to high tech companies from both coasts, have been obtained with a recommendation from another company officer or a legal counsel that became familiar with my work. Other than the ski resort, the remaining percentage have been referrals from professional memberships (Intelnet, ASIS, etc.)
The point is that it takes a long time to build up a reputation and to my knowledge, there is no immediate impact from marketing, either on the Internet or elsewhere to obtain corporations as clients. I do "maintain a web presence" (as they say) on the internet with a small page, but I consider that, along with yellow pages, brochures, newspaper and magazine articles, as maintenance advertising; that is, keeping your name in the public domain.
On the last point, I will add that if you are an accomplished writer, pen a story about something that most corporations can do to spot or fix a problem (without give away all your secrets). Send it out as a Press Release to the newspapers and trade magazines appropriate to the corporations you are targeting (you mentioned Silicone Valley). Then call the same companies and or trade and networking organizations and volunteer to give a speech on that topic; an educational presentation, if you will. Soon you will become the expert on the topic who will be sought out to assist with problems.
As part of my investigation into a company problem, I also volunteer to give a simple presentation to the employees (after the case, at no extra charge) on personal safety issues (at work AND at home) while weaving corporate security issues into the text. The employees like it because they learn something and they feel that the bosses care about them. The bosses like it because we are usually making a strong statement about the successful conclusion of the current case, thereby educating the employees that further "problems" will not be tolerated.
Finally, :-) if an investigation ends up criminal and results in arrests, Press Management (spin control) should be a part of your services. The CEO would rather see a headline like: "XYZ CORP. TAKES STRONG STAND WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSERS," then one like, "15 EMPLOYEES AT XYZ ARRESTED FOR COCAINE SALES IN BOARDROOM". And, if the press gets the story (which they will) and you allow the press to write the story and the headline, the latter is what the headline will look like.
Good luck.
Greg Caldwell
Colorado PI
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19)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: What's this 77M response
What you have found is a tone generator. If you plug it into a phone
jack, (or hook the alligator clips to a line) you can go down the road,
or into the phone room and find those wires. You take a probe, referred
to as an inductance amplifiar and wave it around the wires in the phone
room and hear that tone coming from the wire pair your hooked to. It's
a basic piece of telco equipment and VERY helpful.
--
Trace Carpenter Investigations ******
2926 Maple Ave., Ste. 200 Friends help you move;
Dallas, Texas 75201 Real friends help you move bodies.
214.828.4520 ******
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20)From: Mike Gevaert <mgevaert@bfree.on.ca>
Subject: About Keystroke and screen capture programs.
Where I work, we were talking about keystroke and screen capture
programs and one man who will be entering CS at University of Waterloo,
thought up an idea for a program. He suggested a program that would sit in
the backround (TSR, VXD) and that would look for direct system calls used by
key stroke recording programs and screen capture programs in real time. It
could do one or more things, warn you that your being "watched" or change
your typing when it tries to capture something. THis is just an idea, and
NO CODING HAS BEEN DONE, don't ask for the program. ANyhow, I thought I'd
throw that out to you guys, maybe you could tell me of a prgram that exists
that does that or something. Would be great if it's ever made.
Mike G |-)
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21)From: "Arny Buckman" <arny@ultranet.com>
Subject: Active TEMPEST Countermeasures
I hate to see any one lulled into a false sense of security
because he's put "active TEMPEST countermeasures" in place. This is
a case of hope winning out over reality. A properly trained and
equipped TEMPEST "operator" will have little difficulty in seeing
through this supposed noise.
You are far better off in assessing your risk. For example,
do you have control of the space around you? If you have your
monitor against a wall and you have no idea what's on the other side
of that wall, then you are at risk. If you're in a single family
home in the middle of an acre of land, your risk is very low. Too
many people operate their computers without the fastening screws used
to hold the cover in place. This makes it easier to work on the
computer but the computer becomes a broadcast station for its data.
(See what happens to your TV when you take the cover off your
computer.)
All new computer equipment is required to comply with international
standards for the control of electromagnetic emissions. Although
this applies to all emissions and not specifically data related
emissions, equipment shielding is not selective. While commercial
grade computers may not comply with Government TEMPEST standards,
they are far better than those manufactured as recently as five years
ago.
Even paranoid people have enemies but if I wanted to see what was
on your computer, I'd find some way to gain physical access.
Effective TEMPEST attacks are too complex and expensive.
Arny Buckman
arny@ultranet.com
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22)From: JbarD Ranch <jgurr@tznet.com>
Subject: Re: What is this? 77M
What you have here is the signal generating half of a telephone wire tracing
set. With switch set in the tone position, it will generate a tone on a pair
of wires attached via the alligator clips or by plugging a cord from the
modular jack on the unit into a wall jack. This is then picked up by the
other half of the set, an inductive amplifier, usually a hand held unit with
a probe on one end. Some inductive amps have a small speaker, some must be
attached to a linemans handset. Very handy for locating the pair from a
specific jack in the switchroom in large office building installations, etc.
I'm not familiar with your specific unit, but most of these work only on
pairs when disconnected from the switch, ie no dial tone present. The cont
position switches the unit to a simple continuity tester, there should be an
led which will indicate continuity. Should operate on a standard 9V battery.
Hope this helps,
Josef
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23)From: Martin Pask <100142.3101@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Not getting the full list
I have noted on a few occasion I dont rx the full list for example on the July
3-4 list I only rxed up to subject 12. Is there any reason for this, maybe
somthing my end.
Regards
M.P.I.
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01) Office Phone
02) Re: 77M tracer
03) FS:AR8000
04) Red Boxes
05) Top 10 Signs You're a Redneck Jedi
06) Re: Making tools to pick a lock
07) GREAT Battery Article on the Net
08) Re: i.p. to domain name help
09) Detection of video cameras
10) Lockpicking challenge
11) Cloned pagers
12) Re: What is this? 77M
13) Re: i.p. to domain name help
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1)From: Jon Connolly <joncon@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Office Phone
I hope somebody out there can help.We have an office phone (multi line)
and we would like to hook one of the phones up to the net but the problem is when we try to dial out from the computer it says "NO DIAL TONE " I know we should put something before the number we are dialing but what??
Thanks for any help
Jon
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2)From: Jose A Duarte <Jose_A_Duarte@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: 77M tracer
Hey guys,
I think this thing is Broken. That could be why I found it. I've hooked it
up to a phone that I use to test lines and listened for a tone or the
L.E.D. to light up but nothing. I've got to go and buy a multi-meter and
test this thing. Do you guys know where I could get one of those phones
the tel company uses to test and service phone lines or how to make one? I
live in Toronto Canada and have always been interested in investigative
work. What to I need to be an investigator. I've got a well developed
background in A/V equipment i.e. Cameras (still and Video), Computers.....
and I've also got a good nose for trouble and a great gut feeling. If you
guys could point me in the right directions I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Jose Duarte
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3)From: Fred <FDavey@concentric.net>
Subject: FS:AR8000
I have a complete AR8000 package for sale:
AR8000 radio in excellent condition, has full cellular.
Optoelectronics Optolinx computer interface, includes all cables and
manual.
Scancat Gold software, with manual (DOS or Windows version).
Two antennas, Watson W-889 tele-gainer, and the stock AOR antenna.
Extra set of nicads.
Leather case from Grove.
Cigarette lighter adapter.
Wall adapter/charger for radio.
The price is $600 (Firm), I'll pay to ship.
I am located in the Phoenix area.
Radio must be pre-paid before I will ship.
Only serious inquiries please.
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4)From: Suge662@aol.com
Subject: Red Boxes
I have a question about these. I had one that was a Radio Shack tone dialer
that was modified. It doesn't work anymore and when it did, it only worked
onPacific Bell phones. If I build one the way described, which phones will it
work on? Never heard of the ones mentioned, and also, where can I get the
crystal. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
Thanks,
Suge662@aol.com
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5)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: Top 10 Signs You're a Redneck Jedi
Top ten signs you're a redneck Jedi
10. You've ever smashed up your landspeeder while trying to light a
cigarette
9. You've ever used a lightsaber to open a beer bottle
8. You've ever gotten a ticket because your Wookie runs loose and chases
cars
7. You've ever actually gone home with somebody you met at the Mos
Eisley Cantina
6. Sandpeople back down from your mama
5. You can't figure out why Luke and Leia gave up on the idea of getting
married
4. You've ever brought down an Imperial Freighter with a potato cannon
3. The last time you used the force was so you wouldn't have to get out
of bed to jiggle the handle on the commode
2. Your tractor beam is manufactured by John Deere
...and the number one sign you're a redneck Jedi...
Your Artoo unit runs on propane
--
Trace Carpenter Investigations ******
2926 Maple Ave., Ste. 200 Friends help you move;
Dallas, Texas 75201 Real friends help you move bodies.
214.828.4520 ******
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6)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Making tools to pick a lock
ATTA BOY!!!!!!!!!! Bob, I personally feel that locks are a false sence of
protection that people have...........they "really" are very safe. But ONLY
if no one's picking locks.. When you get better and better...... you're not
looking at locks as you once used to.....as others do. People just cant grasp
the idea that "their" lock..can be picked.
>From a surveillance standpoint: People will never change their views of the
security of locks. You get this trick under your belt........and you can add
50 points to your bowling score. You'll see people putting the most valuable
things into a briefcase.....a locker....slam a lock on it....and say
"sweeeew....glad that's safe". (yes, Im glad it's "safe" too)
Quick tip: If you use a locker and have to choose a basic lock that does not
stand out like a pregnant bald Llama........use a simple 3 dollar Master
COMBO lock. Regular padlocks can be picked very easilly. Warded locks..NEVER.
You can make the master key with any warded lock key. (another time, that
post will repeat)
Combo lock......No sir, you hit junior professional level when you crack a
combo.
Combo's are safe in this boys book. If someone can manipulate a combo
lock...they can probably get past anything else you would have had.
I once belonged to a very upscale Spa in Teaneck NJ..... If I could grab
these older men in the locker room (waaa hooo <--not like that!) as I watched
them take off (easy now! listen! let me finish!) As I watched them take off
their 5 thousand dollar Rolex's and drop them in the locker and then slam a
HUGE warded padlock on it. It made me just about "cry". Don't DARE tell him
Augie........take my advise, it's better to sometimes walk away then to
protect someones best interest. (sad)
Back to BOB....... This gentleman (Bob) has a problem. Looked around. Became
self sufficent and MADE lock pick tools. THATS what it's all about. :-) Self
sufficiency.
A quick shout to Johan that I thaught was captured and being detained by
amazon woman: Very happy to see your face Johan. Trace poped up the plug
follower not too long ago and although I don't have one yet.......it is
DEFINATELY a time savor and I can count on having one soon. Whats the sucess
rate with this thing?
All done :-)
Augie
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7)From: Gerald S Santomassimo <kb0vof@JUNO.COM>
Subject: GREAT Battery Article on the Net
This is probably a good time to bring up an excellent article I found on
the 'net regarding batteries. It was written by Isidor Buchmann, founder
of Cadex Electronics, a manufacturer of batteries and charging systems
for commercial two way radio. The article has sections on several
battery types that have been discussed here in the last couple of days
and compares capacity, cost, and charging. The title of this copyrighted
article is "Strengthening the Weakest Link - The Importance of Battery
Maintenance" and can be found at
<http://web20.mindlink.net/cadex/link.htm>
I printed a copy for my use -- 18 pages. Whether you print or just read
it, I highly recommend it to everyone on the list!!
73
Gerry KB0VOF
Denver, Colorado
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8)From: "J.D. Abolins" <jda-ir@pluto.njcc.com>
Subject: Re: i.p. to domain name help
>I am looking for a program or a free web site that when entering in an i.p.
>address it will return an domain name and or info about that i.p. address
>and the person logged on.
NSLOOKUP, FINGER and WHOIS are several handy net tools that could help you
with these queries. You could run these programs from an Unix shell
account. There are some Winsock-based tools that do these functions. Check
out www.tucows.com oe www.windows95.com for the Winsock net utils. WS-FTP
PRO includes a lookup (basically the NSLOOKUP), TRACEROUTE, FINGER and
WHOIS function as well as a decent Winsock-based FTP client.
NSLOOKUP allows you to query the domain name server entries for a specified
IP address. Now, this is not going to give a domain name for every IP
address. Many times, there won't be a domain name found. One thing you can
do is to fudge the IP address a bit to see if there is a name nearby.
Play around with the last set of numbers (nnn.nnn.nnn.NNN) in the IP
address. Try going to 1 for example (nnn.nnn.nnn.1).
The other tools can be used to leverage more info about the user of the
particular site. This is a very rough response. I am sure that other list
reader can give a better response. But for now, this may help by making you
aware of NSLOOKUP as a DNS lookup tool.
J.D. Abolins
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9)From: John P Trotter <ptrotter@hic.net>
Subject: Detection of video cameras
I have a client who is worried about 'undercover reporters' also video bugs
I thought of a possible set up -
what frequencies does a 'pinhole' camera use?
are they detectable by
1 antenna in office ?
2 coil around room ?
I remember the video signal is a least 50KHz
would a briefcase unit have a VCR that radiates ?
Also could a coil around a door erase or scramble a video/audio tape
by being triggered on door opening what frequency?
John P Trotter
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10)From: thesaint <thesaint@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Lockpicking challenge
Hey Augie,
By the sounds of this devilish concept, I think you should practice picking
handcuffs, you may need the skill. I should tell you that I heard trace and
frank say something about a chastity belt two sizes too small, nah forget
that, it probably wasn't related.
On a serious note, sending voltage down the phone line works like a charm.
We tried it here in OZ some time ago using standard 240 V. It fried the
bugs gizzards but left the phone line in tact. In OZ the telephone exchange
has large coils which buff any large voltage strikes such as lightening
etc... The phone line worked properly afterwards and had no bad effects,
just disconnect the telephone first.
It was on a standard phone line, not a commander system or ISDN line. Our
lines use approx 52 Volts on hook and between 8-12 Volts off hook depending
on the area. Leave the line on hook and let it blast.
I wouldn't recommend it as a TSCM technique you should employ in the field
or at a clients premises but its a great experiment to conduct on your own.
Ps. The telephone company would be really cheezed off if they knew about the
experiment.
Pss It'll be good to finally meet you guys at the seminar.
Regards
Johan Erlandsson
"Nothing is as secure as it seems"
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11)From: zerohero@juno.com (john j smith)
Subject: Cloned pagers
listen, i don't know how valuable this might be to anyone, or if its
already common knowledge, but it is possible to have more than one
digital pager hooked up to one (the same) number. if you have
suspicions about your signifigant other, this might be a way for you to
ease your mind. thanks for the great list you all!
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12)From: "Walstrom, Bradley" <walstb@uf9753p01.PhoenixAZ.ncr.com>
Subject: Re: What is this? 77M
Jose,
What you have is a piece of test gear used by telephone installers. It
is made by Progressive Electronics Inc. located in Mesa Arizona. It will
put an audio tone on the line either by connecting the two alligator
clips to the phone line or by plugging in the modular connector and
putting the switch in the tone mode. There should be a switch inside the
battery compartment on the circuit board that lets you switch the tone
from solid to a warble. You can then trace the line with an installers
test set or an inductive amplifier. It can also check continuity with
the switch in the cont. position. If you touch the two alligator clips
together the LED should light up indicating a complete circuit. It is
sold by Jensen Tools in Phoenix AZ and sell for $29.00. Jensen Tools is
a great source for tech. tools and test gear. You may want to call
1-800-426-1194 and ask if they will send you a catalog.
They also have a web site: http://www.jensentools.com
( No I do not work for Jensen Tools nor do I have any stock in the
company) Just a good source for tools
Brad Walstrom
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13)From: graywolf@fox.nstn.ca
Subject: Re: i.p. to domain name help
<I am looking for a program or a free web site that when entering in an i.p.
<address it will return an domain name and or info about that i.p. address
<and the person logged on.
You are looking for utilities called whois and finger. These are available
for whatever platform you use from http://www.tucows.com. If you are using
Windows 3.x, I recommend WS Watch. It not only includes whois, finger and
ping but is the only 3.x utility I have found that lets you run traceroute
- a tool I use a lot when trying to track down people on the net. Finger,
which is supposed to provide info about the user, may not because many
ISP's do not allow finger requests as a security measure.
<the web site www.usa.net is a free remail service, if any one has info on
them like if they could be Gov. run to <keep an eye on the Internet or if
they are one of the remailer I have herd of that spy on you by the Gov. or
<sniffers or the like. is this a good and safe remail service ??
I don't use netaddress(usa.net) but I do use hotmail - a competing service.
The good news about both of them is that neither asks you for enough
information to be able to verify ANY of the info you give them. Both of
them are what is called mail-to-web gateways. They are_NOT_ anonymous
remailers in that they are NEITHER remailers NOR totally anonymous. True,
your hotmail address does not identify you directly (outside of the
information you give them) but all mail sent from hotmail (and probably
usa.net) includes the ip address of the originating host - ie. your isp- in
the header. Unless the people operating these services want to end up in
the cyber scrap heap along with the alpha and nymrod nymservers and
mailmasher due to user abuse, they are also logging your ip information.
NEVER use them for anything requiring true anonymity.
Anonymous remailers work by stripping off the header information before
forwarding your email to the next destination. They are usually chained
together so the mail passes through several of them before arriving at the
final destination. A list of reliable remailers is available from
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html. Additional security is
provided by allowing you to use pgp (in fact, some require you to use it).
Reliable remailers are operating in at least 3 countries. If you are
concerned about security, use at least 1 in a country other than the one
you live in. If you think you might be running afoul of your own
government, that out of country remailer should be first on your list
(going through other countries can seriously complicate trying to trace the
email). You can also set up remailer software on your own system so that,
even though the email originates from you, it looks like you are just
another remailer in the chain.
Regards
graywolf
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) PGP v5.0i Comming Soon!
02) Re: Office phone
03) Re: Office phone
04) Re: Office Phones
05) Re: Cloned pagers
06) Re: Office Phone
07) Re: E-mail scam
08) Anyone experiencing list problems?
09) Re: Office phone
10) Looking for Private investigator in the Atlanta
11) State Residency Question
12) Can anyone here recognize this lock?
13) Legal precedents re: acceptance of digital photo/video imaging
14) Tracking devices
15) VT-75 xmitter?
16) Re: "thing tel comp uses to test..."
17) Someone recently asked for some tips
18) SUBSCRIBER LOOP ANALYZER
19) Re: Office Phone
20) Make sure it's NTSC format and not your PAL
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1)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: PGP v5.0i Comming Soon!
PGP v5.0 series "i", also known as the International version of PGP
v5.0, will be available very soon. More info about PGP v5.0i is
available at http://www.ifi.uio.no/pgp/pgp50.shtml . More info about
many PGP versions, including the rebel version 2.6.2g, the FTP site for
PGP v5.0, and international versions, are available on my cryptography
page at http://www.dynanet.com/~wieland/ww-crypt.htm .
-WW
--
My ICQ UIN is 1430880.
-=WindWalker Access=- -=PeaceFire=-
http://www.dynanet.com/~wieland/ http://www.peacefire.org/
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2)From: John P Trotter <ptrotter@hic.net>
Subject: Re: Office phone
1) Bypass the switching system and run a line straight to the telco
depending on your office disclipine you may have to set a switch (dpdt)
to isolate the line if people keep picking up while you are on line.
2) check the setup for the modem - if it is AT compatible you may be able
to use 'X1' as part of the setup - in which case it will not check for dialtone
3) I believe I have see an adaptor the connects a modem in place of a handset
but I cannot specify it
#1 ALWAYS WORKS but ca be a pain
#2 is best because it uses the switcher to keep people from picking up
on you
John P Trotter
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3)From: Chris Collins <militant@goodnet.com>
Subject: Re: Office phone
Jon:
First of all if it's pbx then sometimes you have dial 9 to get out
or 99, what ever it is that needs to go in front of the number. Comas ","
are delays so for example to dial out of the pbx at my work I do this
"atdt9,,916-6000"
The "at" means attention and the "dt" means dial tone.
There's different systems out there but experiment...with the "," .
This should work
ThE MiLiTaNt
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4)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: Re: Office Phones
The problem is you're trying to go through the phone system jack. Some
systems will allow you to do this by adding a card to the system but the
easiest way to do it is to bring the actual trunk (the term used for the
phone line that comes in PRIOR to the phone system) into the office
where you want to plug in the computer. You can still have that line on
your phone system, just bring in a dedicated jack off the line.
--
Trace Carpenter Investigations ******
2926 Maple Ave., Ste. 200 Friends help you move;
Dallas, Texas 75201 Real friends help you move bodies.
214.828.4520 ******
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5)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Cloned pagers
> listen, i don't know how valuable this might be to anyone, or if its
> already common knowledge, but it is possible to have more than one
> digital pager hooked up to one (the same) number. if you have
> suspicions about your signifigant other, this might be a way for you to
> ease your mind. thanks for the great list you all!
Absolutely. All you need to do is recrystal another pager to the same
frequency and change the PIN. Any pager shop should be able to do that
for you for next to nothing, and there are tons of individuals out there
with the equipment to get it done. But alternatively, you could simply
use POCSAG or Golay decoding shareware/freeware (assuming your target
pager operates using the POCSAG or Golay protocol) to monitor the air.
CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
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6)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Office Phone
> I hope somebody out there can help.We have an office phone (multi line)
> and we would like to hook one of the phones up to the net but the
> problem is when we try to dial out from the computer it says "NO DIAL
> TONE " I know we should put something before the number we are dialing
> but what??
What do you dial normally when you want to make an outgoing call? Just do
the same thing when you want your modem to dial out. If you need to press
"95" before dialing a number, your dialing string should be 95,1234567.
CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
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7)From: William Roche <wroche@sn.no>
Subject: Re: E-mail scam
>Return-Path: dmfinv@hotmail.com
>X-Originating-IP: [206.14.138.22]
>From: "FOUNTAIN INVESTIGATIONS" <dmfinv@hotmail.com>
>To: BenoitPI@aol.com
>Subject: Re: E-mail scam
>Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 07:28:56 PDT
>
>
>>From benoitpi@aol.com Mon Jul 7 23:39:55 1997
>>Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25])
>> by baygate.bayarea.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA19200
>> for <calimembers@globaldomain.com>; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 23:31:55 -0700
>(PDT)
>>From: BenoitPI@aol.com
>>Received: (from root@localhost)
>> by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0)
>> id CAA07841;
>> Tue, 8 Jul 1997 02:33:56 -0400 (EDT)
>>Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 02:33:56 -0400 (EDT)
>>Message-ID: <970708023356_783470670@emout10.mail.aol.com>
>>To: AJSINV@aol.com
>>cc: ash@hmmh-ma1.ccmail.compuserve.com, bbbs@livewire.com,
>> calimembers@globaldomain.com, Tu2Bene@aol.com,
>jsment1@ix.netcom.com,
>> Ledajoy@aol.com, Pipedreamer@compuserve.com105416,
>3006@compuserve.com,
>> KSueUlery@aol.com, TNTINO@aol.com
>>Subject: E-mail scam
>>
>>!!!!!!!!! CRITICAL !!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> If you receive an e-mail that is titled "Fwd: America Online 4.0
>Upgrade" or
>>has an attached file called "Setup40.exe" DO NOT download the program
>it is
>>NOT AOL 4.0. It is a program that will e-mail your SCREEN NAME and your
>> PASSWORD to two or more people during two blackouts of your computer
>screen.
>> DO NOT DOWNLOAD. DELETE IT !!!
>>
>> Please E-Mail this letter to as many people as possible to avoid
>>damage....thanks !!!
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8)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Anyone experiencing list problems?
I've received a complaint from a list member regarding list format and was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem?
>>>>
Well, gee. On the surveillance list I received today, the first message from Jon Connelly was like that. Actually the first line was fine, but the second line ran 126 full characters off the right side of the page.
Also your ending message "Who are you. . ." line one runs off page and "We want to know EVERYTHING. . ." also ran off page.
Generally, about two or three posts per list are like that. On my mail, all of your posts, though not every line does that. In your reply message, in fact, line 2 begins with, "I use Eudora Pro. . ." The entire rest of your message is on that one line about 100 or so characters off the page.
Two things. I recall a post from someone a month or so ago that complained about the same thing. Second, there was no noticable glitches until you had that problem with your ISP and changed your e-mail address for the list months ago. That is when it started. I can't imagine what that would have to do with it, but maybe you should ask the list if anyone else is experiencing the problems.
<<<<
Anyone having similiar problems? I use Eudora Pro to send the list... Am I making a mistake somewhere?
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9)From: Jean-Pierre Forest <jpforest@uniserve.com>
Subject: Re: Office phone
We'll need a bit more info on your office phone system. You'll have to
be careful some digital system can ruin your modem if they are connected
directly to your office phone wall hook-up. Check with your office
system administrator, you might be able to hook on line by dialing 9 or
8 or 81 or whatever the system is programmed to get an external analog
line. If you give us more details we'll be able to answer in more
details. Hope this helps.
Blue Skies
J.P.
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10)From: ApacheMM@aol.com
Subject: Looking for Private investigator in the Atlanta
I am looking for a very experienced private investigator in the Atlanta,
Georgia area. My need is surveillance. If you could direct me to someone, I
would appreciate it. Thank you.
Apachemm@aol.com
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11)From: William Xu <william@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
Subject: State Residency Question
Hello, this has nothing to do with Privacy stuff but hear me out
please.
Can someone please tell me how they know you are a state
resident of X state? I am going to be a senior in high school, going
to college soon. And someone told me that you can become a state
resident just by having a mail address there for like 6month?
So say I live in FL and want to goto UIUC, and I dont want to pay
the 10k a year tuition fee for out of state residents. All I have to
do is direct some of my mails to one of my dad's friends that live in
IL,(College apps for UIUC, etc) and bingo I become a Illinois resident?
Now is that actually possible or pure fiction? Could this be illegal
or something?
Thanks alot all
Holo
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12)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Can anyone here recognize this lock?
Can anyone here recognize this lock?????????. (Make, company)
It can be viewed by going to this site:
http://members.aol.com/BADCOFFEE/wwlock.html
Thanks!!!!
Augie
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13)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
Subject: Legal precedents re: acceptance of digital photo/video imaging
I received this from a friend; anyone out there able to provide any input?
Tim
From: Kuma3938@aol.com
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:15:56 -0400 (EDT)
To: dbugman@amug.org
Subject: Re: BULLETIN BOARD # 29
Tim,
I'm trying to research a problem. Please put this on your net, cause I want
as much input as I can get.
Is anyone aware of any legal precedents regarding the acceptance of digital
photo and/or video imaging in court or any legal type proceedings. I'm told
that the ability to manipulate the digital images has caused some legal
problems. Is anyone out there aware of any pro or con regarding this
subject.
Through Tim or direct to me. Thanks
Harry Hann kuma3938@aol.com
ASET Corp.
Dayton, OH
Tim Johnson dbugman@amug.org
Technical Security Consultants Inc
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/
What you say in private is your business.
Keeping it private is ours. (c)TSCI 1987
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14)From: "ray bobbitt" <raybobbitt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Tracking devices
Hey guys,
Can anyone help me find a source of tracking devices or help me find
information to build one? I want one because some one stole some stuff
from me and I want to set them up. I figure if I can get them to steal
something else with a tracking device in it I will find the rest of my
stuff.
Thanks,
Ray
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15)rom: Mark Gryniewski <mski@bright.net>
Subject: VT-75 xmitter?
Hi guys, love the codex site and this list, thanks for everyones hard work
and responses.
I need help identifying the manefacturer or distributer of a small surface
mount type fm xmitter. it looks like a "good-throw-away-type" xmitter...the
case (plastic box it shipped in apparently) says vt-75 on it and the typical
"this unit has been adjusted at factory blah blah..." stuff, but no mfg
name. i found that it is a broadcast band xmitter that goes above / bleow
standard fm 88&108 and is very clear yet VERY touchy to tune. Its 9 volt
powered and very tiny with a white undersurface on the board. Found it at an
office some time ago "professionally" hidden on a bookshelf in a binder...DOH!
if its cheap enuff i'd like a cpl more as throwaways....and may give me
clues as to who may have ordered it.
Anyone know who made this thing? still in business? thanks in advance! ;)
--------------------------------------------
Mark J. Gryniewski |
I.S./Accounting Director/Security Officer |
Goodwill Industries of Wayne County, Inc. |
1034 Nold Avenue |
Wooster, Ohio 44691 |
(330)264-1300 Voice x 225 |
(330)264-3400 Fax |
|
mailto:mski@bright.net |
+++Moderator's Note+++
The VT-75 is manufactured and sold by Deco Industries PO Box 607 Bedford Hills, NY 10507 Tel: 914-232-3878. I am not sure if they are still in business but this is the info I have on them...
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16)From: Mark Gryniewski <mski@bright.net>
Subject: Re: "thing tel comp uses to test..."
>From: Jose A Duarte <Jose_A_Duarte@ibm.net>
>Subject: Re: 77M tracer
>
>Hey guys,
>
>I've got to go and buy a multi-meter and test this thing. Do you guys know
>where I could get one of those phones the tel company uses to test and
service >phone lines..?
What you mean is a linemans set or handset. Good place to get one is Jameco
@ 1-800-831-4242 item# 123924 on page 120 of the latest catalog, $199.95 US
or if ya buy 5 or more it's $179.95. It's yellow and has polarity test/high
impedance monitor mode and the typical features. Right below in the catalog
is a line tester unit for cheap....hope this helps.
--------------------------------------------
Mark J. Gryniewski |
I.S./Accounting Director/Security Officer |
Goodwill Industries of Wayne County, Inc. |
1034 Nold Avenue |
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17)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Someone recently asked for some tips
Someone recently asked for some tips and if Master is a good padlock to
practice on......
My responce:
Master padlocks are "THE" padlock of choice to practice on.
Some tips:
*Vary your torque. Exparament. Don't be afraid to go a bit heavy.
*Most locks pick from the back to the front. Because the front pins "wear
out" 4 times faster. (see next post)
Some things to try when things are just not working:
*Turn plug the other way.
*START by picking first witht "any" tourqe. (have the wrench in though).
Reach back and rake the pins from back to front gently but firmly pressing
them all the way up as as your pulling back. Sometimes with loose plugs by
putting torque "first" your "already" preventing the (all it takes is one)
pin from going home.
Your want to hear your 4 FULL clicks of the pins springing back down as a
"reset" that tells you.........ok......all pin's are ready to go.
* Here's a trip. Sometimes.........the lock IS sucessfully picked and you
just don't know it. When you don't feel any more pins inside with that
"springy" feel. Stop picking and give the tourque wrench a little yank to see
if you've got this baby. (very common)
* The best tip-----> If you feel after maybe one minute or so that something
is not right.......your probably right. Release and start over. It might take
me 5 or 6 real try's in 10 second bursts to get a lock open. I'm very
patient.......but If i don't feel like I'm getting anywhere in that time
frame.......there's the part of me that will say "possibly" if ONE pin is
false set.......I could be here forever. Start over.
* At the end of the journey: Keep in mind.......if you "feel" your at your
last pin, as scary as it is that you don't wan't to loose "set" pins. You
"have to" back off just a bit on the torque. Your mind is telling you the
opposite.....to not loose those set pins.
Keep in mind how much pressure from the sheer line is now on that ONE pin and
it IS going to feel quite stuck if you don't back off a bit.
Hope this helped :-) Very happy to help any time you need it. :-)
Augie
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18)From: "Shadow Chasers" <shadowchasers@hotmail.com>
Subject: SUBSCRIBER LOOP ANALYZER
Technical Wizards,
Need pulse & DTMF decoding within one device, have seen it before in a
catalog, but unfornately can't remember which one!
Is there a PC card (PMCIA) device capable of doing the telephoe digit
grabbing? If so, need type II or III PMCIA card.
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19)From: icathar@mail.club-internet.fr
Subject: Re: Office Phone
>I hope somebody out there can help.We have an office phone (multi line)
>and we would like to hook one of the phones up to the net but the problem
>is when we try to dial out from the computer it says "NO DIAL TONE " I
>know we should put something before the number we are dialing but what??
>
Hi list !
two things come to my mind : first of course you have to use the same
parameter for computer-dialing than for 'hand-dialing' : eg, if you put a
zero (0) before you actually dial the number, you have to do the same thing
with your dialing software.
Then, if you have multiline phonesystem, I guess you use some black box
(PABX, autocom, you name it). You can have 'coordination' problem between
your modem and this blackbox : the modem dials too fast for the poor system
... The solution ? When you parameter your dialing software, use the coma
sign (,) to have the modem wait a little while. I try to explain :
you have to dial with your modem an outside phonenumber 123456
you parameter your dialing software : ,0,123456
first , to 'coordinate' the modem and the 'black box'
0 to tell your system you're going to phone outside
second , to let the black box realize what is happening ...
123456 which is your number
well ... hmmm ... I hope I have been clear enough to help ?
JF LOEWENTHAL, Paris, France
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20)From: "Shadow Chasers" <shadowchasers@hotmail.com>
Subject: make sure it's NTSC format and not your PAL
Having failed to write down the author's email address who wrote about
his companies PC CARD capabilities and is bringing a VHS taped to
SPYKINGS seminar, make sure it's NTSC format and not your PAL. If PAL
and not NTSC, let me know, I have several MULTISYSTEM VCR's!!
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01) Video from a distance
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03) License plate search to find name of person
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1)From: HtPursuit@aol.com
Subject: Video from a distance
I am looking for a setup where I could place a video camera in one location
which would be a temporary location, maybe secured, maybenot, that could be
operated from a LP, this would be maybe a block away. Now the thing is could
the camera be operated from this point, like remote control ie. zoom, off on
and maybe pan tilt????
And the budget wouldnt be blown to bits. Thanks.
Bill
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2)From: "Lorenzo Castillo Sanchez" <espaniola@hotmail.com>
Subject: Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
I'm sure a lot of folks are already familiar with this but I thought
I should mention this subject. Type this command for your Netscape
location -->> file:///C|/ (it's not an "I" it's this key right
next to the backspace key, right below F11)
BTW - what's the name of that key ?
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3)From: Richie Suraci <rs7.fap@mhv.net>
Subject: License plate search to find name of person
Can you recomend which search engine to use to locate a persons name and
address form a license plate number? Please advise...
Thanks
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4)From: gaugusti@hqgbcs.attmail.com (Grant Augustine x4058)
Subject: Other side - "EMP WEAPONS: URBAN LEGENDS MESMERIZE INFOWAR KOOKS
Excuse me while I chuckle ;-) Youse grrls got all the facks!
Now go read the other side in Crypt Newsletter 43 at
http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/other/crpt43.htm. Selected excerpts follow:
* EMP gun: n. Always suspected but never seen, the EMP -- electromagnetic pulse --
weapon is the chupacabra of cyberspace.
* ..., Winn Schwartau did much to embed the myth of the emp weapon in the
mainstream imagination with his 1994 book "Information Warfare."
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Subject: List traffic
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01) AT@T Long Distance Charges
02) Building a TEMPEST model?
03) TEST your receive channels manually
04) Curiosity Question
05) IP Address Info
06) Re: Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
07) Re: License plate search to find name of person
08) It's this key right next to the backspace key
09) Re: Video From a Distance
10) Re: Reading your hard drive...
11) Re: Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
12) Re: reading your hard drive, Netscape, et al
13) Statue of Limitations?
14) Re: Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
15) 800 phoneline (Sprint) for business
16) How to find info?
17) Cloned pagers revisited...
18) Responses to digital video inquiry
19) Admissibility of digital photos?
20) Re: run a MA plate?
21) Missing Postings?
22) Decode this for me
23) High school yearbooks available for viewing online?
24) Eavesdropping on ISDN lines
25) Government Watch: S.493
26) Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
27) LPIA-NALI Professional Development Seminar
28) On-line PI Directory Is Up
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1)From: jaross@notes.primeco.com
Subject: AT@T Long Distance Charges
AT@T Long Distance Users can now call the toll free 800.222.0300 number
and locate any unidentified call by typing in the number, the computer will
then play a message of who you called. Then if you wish to dispute the
charges simply type in the amount you want refunded and WALLAH the amount
is then deducted from your account
**** I wonder how much a person can deduct per call per account?*****
Sounds like discount city to me
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2)From: "Charles Branstool" <agent9@msn.com>
Subject: Building a TEMPEST model?
I'm interested in building a TEMPEST model. If anyone knows where I can find
a complete and thorough list of "ingredients" please contact me.
Thank you in advance.
Agent9
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3)From: Glenn Beauregard <spytron@magic.mb.ca>
Subject: TEST your receive channels manually
Here's a little something interesting for most Mitsubishi Diamond Tel
owners. (it should interest most though) In North America, the current
system for cellular phones operates on 832 channels. That is, 832 send
and receive channels. If you were a shop that had to fix these units,
you would need the ability to manually scan all the channels for
reception. See where I'm going??
All phones have the ability to scan these channels manually, but none
easier than the Mitsubishi! If you wanted to TEST your receive channels
manually, you only need to do this.
- turn phone on
- hold down the end key while also typing in 0944635
- let go of the end key
- then type 0 - 2 - send - 0 - 3 - send
Once you have done this, the telephone is in the "test" mode. From here,
just use the # and * keys to scroll through the channels. At this point,
the microphone on the unit has been shut off.
If anyone knows if there is another phone that uses a system this easy
to test, please let the list know.
Lastly, this should be a warning as to the "security" of your cellular
conversations. I don't believe there is a conversation in a fair sized
city that someone ISN'T listening to. Be careful what you say on your
cellular. Refrain from giving any important info such as names,
addresses, phone numbers, etc....
There's my 2 cents.
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4)From: Silicon <silicon@netwalk.com>
Subject: Curiosity Question
Lengthy quick question:
Could anyone shed some light on the idea that some home security companies
may use scare tactics to get people to sign up with there service?
I have a friend who recently had his car and garage pilfered through when
he left for work one morning...everything in the car was either opened or
strewn on the seats and floors, both doors were ajar, the maintenance
panels in the trunk were off, a socket set was opened, and the right door
panel was partially removed...he also had a CD player with face intact, 20
odd CD's sitting on the front seat along with misc items...and his garage
door was half-way open, with a high-end mountain bike, misc tools etc
inside...
The odd thing: _nothing_ was damaged or taken.
It seemed as though *they* were looking for something or possibly looking
for a drop spot to plant something...? But nothing seemed to be planted and
who knows what they were looking for. Weird thing is, over the past two
weeks he's had 4 home security companies call trying to push there
services, and one guy was completely annoying, saying...."then it's your
fault, if you don't want to take care of you and your family then that's
your problem..." when he declined service. The sales guy also verified
where he lived 3 times...strange either way.
My thought was whether or not it was at all _common_ for such companies to
use tactics to scare people into buying there services etc. I say it's
completely plausible, but now he's just waiting for the next phone call to
be from a home security outfitter ;] Thanks in advance for any feedback...
Regards,
ST
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5)From: "A.Ryan" <ajryan@pacbell.net>
Subject: IP Address Info
This is for the gentleman who wanted to know how to
resolve a domain name with an IP address. Try using NetScan Tools.
I'm assuming of course that you are using Win95. This
program ports several unix functions and can be very useful.
Very clean program and is the only one that I know of which
will return domain names based on IP addresses. One thing to
note, however, is that if the server or host is not set up
to return the domain name then this may not help you, if it
is not directly registered with the internic.
It is shareware and can be found at
http://www.eskimo.com/~nwps/index.html
It is free to try for 30 days and is $25.
HTH
Art Ryan
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6)From: Silicon <silicon@netwalk.com>
Subject: Re: Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
Hey Lorenzo,
FYI, most people call that key 'bar' or 'vertical bar' ... that's what I
have heard and use anyway. And that command line below only shows the
contents to you, the user. If someone has that as a link on their page, it
doesn't allow _them_ to view the contents of your hard drive...just FYI (no
intelligence insulting intended ;)
Take it easy gang,
ST
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7)From: "Michael A. Banks" <75300.2721@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: License plate search to find name of person
>> Can you recomend which search engine to use to locate a persons name and
>> address form a license plate number? Please advise...
The reply here is probably going to be disappointing. Unless you plan to hack
into a state BMV or state/national LE system, you will not be able to get the
name of the owner of a license plate that easily. (There is a misconception
among the general public that EVERY sort of information is available on the
Internet, and free. That's just not true.) A few states, like Kansas (visit:
http://www.state.ks.us/public/mvr/ for info on fees and info available), have
put certain databases online, but not for free. A few other states sell info on
driving records, registrations, etc., by mail or in person. That will vary from
state to state; check with your state's BMV.
In any event, there is no generally available, no- or low-cost database that
contains the sort of information you want. You can subscribe to expensive
databases to find this and other sorts of information, but the cost is
prohibitive to those who have a need to look up one record, or to the idle
curious. You might also consider paying a PI to find the information for you.
--Michael A. Banks http://www.coriolis.com/webpsychos/ (or)
http://w3.one.net/~banks/psycho.htm.
(Author of "Web Psychos, Stalkers, and Pranksters: How to Protect Yourself in
Cyberspace," published by The Coriolis Group/ITP, and available in your local
bookstore.)
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8)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: It's this key right next to the backspace key
> BTW - what's the name of that key ?
It's called the pipe key. FYI it acts as hitting the enter key.
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9)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: Re: Video From a Distance
I posted information on building a video transmitter a while back
which will work nicely. If you keep your old lists it'll be in there.
I think I've reposted the article a couple of times at requests. If you
can't find it, let me know and I'll go through my archived posts and try
to find it.
--
Trace Carpenter Investigations ******
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Dallas, Texas 75201 Real friends help you move bodies.
214.828.4520 ******
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10)From: fiveyes@iiiii.com (5-i's = V)
Subject: Re: Reading your hard drive...
Lorenzo wrote:
>
> location -->> file:///C|/ (it's not an "I" it's this key right
>
> next to the backspace key, right below F11)
>
> BTW - what's the name of that key ?
Over the phone, I've always used "Shift(ed) Back Slash" to direct people to use
it, pointing out that "?" is a "Shift(ed) Slash".
Location of this key varies widely on differing keyboards, with the only rule
seeming to be that it will be somewhere on the right...
5-i's
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11)From: shunter <shunter@direct.ca>
Subject: Re: Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
> I'm sure a lot of folks are already familiar with this but I thought
>
> I should mention this subject. Type this command for your Netscape
>
> location -->> file:///C|/ (it's not an "I" it's this key right
> next to the backspace key, right below F11)
> BTW - what's the name of that key ?
its called the pipe key.
--
Spyhunter
shunter@direct.ca
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nW1q6NRb01psLIw2wFwo6rZ74Gw0KB3EBZi/nAC0+lN2xHdcwvsGUF5Yp1ZbAAUR
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12)From: harvey.eakin@cyberwaves.com (Harvey Eakin)
Subject: Re: reading your hard drive, Netscape, et al
The name of that key "|" is the piping key. It was used is the days of
DOS when viewing lists on the screen that were longer than one
screen,along with the more command/switch. -harvey eakin
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13)From: travlinman@hotmail.com
Subject: Statute of limitations?
Need quick answer. Been contacted by potential client who was indicted by
U.S. for (federal not state charges) possession and conspiracy to possess wiretapping equipment. Date of occurance was Jan 92 to May 92. More than
five years have passed since this was alledged to occur. He was just arrested last week. Hasn't the statue of limitations run yet? This was more than five years ago... Is this a bogus indictment?
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14)From: Mutter <mutter@openix.com>
Subject: Re: Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
> I'm sure a lot of folks are already familiar with this but I thought
> I should mention this subject. Type this command for your Netscape
> location -->> file:///C|/ (it's not an "I" it's this key right
> next to the backspace key, right below F11)
> BTW - what's the name of that key ?
If you're referring to the "|" I call it a pipe.
Anyway, if you don't want to remember that whole thing just remember the
"file://" part. Netscape will recognize file://C:\autoexec.bat.
It is a handy trick to use a computer that has otherwise been made to deny
access to the hard drive.
umm...wow I haven't posted in a long time. BTW, has anyone won that
decipher-the-message contest? I might just have to try my hand at it :)
- M u t t e r
Ed. root zine
(http://www.openix.com/~mutter)
mutter@openix.com
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15)From: JOHNSGUN@aol.com
Subject: 800 phoneline (Sprint) for business
I have an 800 phoneline (Sprint) for business that rings in on my local
number line .
Very recently someone called Sprint and gave sufficient info that allowed that
party to change the "translation number ". The translation number is the
phone number that rings when the 800 toll free number is dialed . Well of
course lots of fun ensued for people who like to steal line time for their
own ends . What was troubling was that Sprint allowed this change with only a
verbal authorization from an anonymous person posing with basic information
on my business . Sprint wouldn't disclose what info it needed to make such a
change but evidently this is a relatively common occurence . The info here
was received from corporate security in Ga. (over the phone WITHOUT verifying
my ID ! , other than probably caller ID even tho' I punched *70 when I called
them ) . I had to call several numbers to get to Corp. Security and every
time I mentioned "Corporate Security " on the Sprint customer service lines I
was immediately disconnected ! Comments ?
First time post , hope this proves useful .
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16)From: JayB1024@aol.com
Subject: How to find info?
I'm no longer lurking !!!! I would like to know how to look people by their
car Tag numbers, and find credit reports on line for free can you help!
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17)From: zerohero@juno.com (john j smith)
Subject: Cloned pagers revisited...
I've gotten a lot of mail over this post I made a bit ago, as to
how to "build" a cloned pager..
so I thought I might post again for everyone's information. Mercifully,
this is one of those situations when you don't actually HAVE to build
anything. There is equipment and circuits that can be constructed to
intercept pager communications out there to be sure, but I can tell you,
as someone with precious little time and even less funds, it is far
easier to let the established pager companies to do the work for you...
In other words, you can walk into the pager store and ask that
two (or more) pagers be connected under the same number to receive the
same pages. This isn't widely advertised for obvious reasons. A good
pretext to use ( if you are nervous or paranoid) is that you want it for
business purposes, i.e.: several "men in the field", etc.
You should own the pagers in question, you can't alter another
person's account without their permission, this kind of throws the whole
clandestine thing out the window, so the pretext of giving it to someone
is up to you.
If you are going to do this, let me remind you of the privacy
thing...if the realationship is that bad...well, i think you know what
I'm saying.
Also, digital pagers make great tone decoders, and some of the
computer software you can get (or write!) that utilize them is fun
too...I'll post again soon, or you can ask Spyking himself because he
knows it all I'm sure...
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18)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
Subject: Responses to digital video inquiry
From: DAVEGILBOW@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bulletin Board # 30
Tim, In response to your first item: As in all legal proceedings where you are using neew technologies you have to establish set proceedures and credability. In regards to digital images you follow basically the same proceedures as you would for computer images/ data: collect the original using the proceedures set forth by the agency involved and protect the original as evidence following the usual chain of custody rules. create a copy of the original images and insure that all manipulations/enhancements take place using only the copies. If you are a credible witness have followed the established proceedures and can show that the original images/data has not been altered from its original state then the material is usually accepted and any enhancements face little challenge.
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From: gremlin@interserv.com
Subject: Re: Bulletin Board # 30
Reference digital photos:
I recently experienced a situation with the local Police where I had taken several photos of a person stealing precious metals. I used a Casio digital camera. I uploaded the digital photos to a PC, then printed them on a HP Color Laser printer. The images were very crisp and showed exactly what I wanted them to. When I turned the photos over to the PD, they weren't smart enough to realize the photos came from a digital camera. The DA's office recognized the digital photos and called me on the phone. He asked if I still had the photos stored on the camera. When I replied, Yes, he asked if I could bring the camera and the PC software in to the lab. I turned the camera and software over to the lab and watched while they uploaded the photos into the PC and printed "certified" copies. The lab tech stated the digital photos were more dificult to alter than conventional film as long as they were stored in the camera. The certified copies must have worked because we got a guilty plea and restitution on the stolen gold.
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From: Rivers1133@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bulletin Board # 30
I testify frequently concerning photographs in courts, especially homicide cases. The key point is that all photographic work can be manipulated. By adjusting the color balance I can make bruises really look deep purple/red. Of course the fear of the computer photography is that objects can be placed in or removed out of the picture, almost undetected. In discussion with the State's Attorney's Office, the key point when I testify and the question I am always asked on the stand is, " Is this photograph a true representation of the crime scene as you saw it on such in
such date?" To which I answer yes to each and every photo entered into the trial. The same testimony should hold true to digital photography, but it can be manipulated much easier, and someone is going to make good money when they get the expertise to examine photo work and testify concerning digital alteration.
If you get any information of digital testimony I would be interersted. I know that HQ AFOSI, Mike Hastings, has really jumped on the digital photography band wagon. He also stated that when HQ moves to Andrews, he will not be doing anymore photographic wet work, strictly digital. In fact he will most likely do any of his wet work with my crime lab down in Charles County, MD. He feels law enforcement will be all digital in 10 years.
Steve Rivers
Forensic Crime Lab
Charles County Sheriff's Office
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From: "Samuel M. Kirton" <smkirton@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Bulletin Board # 30
Tim
The following is in reply to Bulletin Board #30, Item 1, Digital Imaging.
The issue of digital imaging, or digital anything for that matter, is going through the courts. During May 12-16 97 in Las Vegas, the FBI hosted a Digital Imaging Seminar For Law Enforcement. I delivered a presentation on developing standardized agency policy for the use of
digital imaging. Several presentations were delivered on case precedent; most interesting was "State of Washington :vs: Eric Hayden". The precedent established by this case alone was significant as it validated a level of manipulation by fast fourier transform. The Federal
Rules of Evidence (FRE) 1001 and 1002 tend to be used in support of digtial imaging.
The proceedings of the seminar will be published and available through the government printing office. It should be a good reference and I am not saying that just because my paper will be published in the proceedings.
In addition, I recommend you look on the web Indiana University Institute for Forensic Imaging. Search that site for "Herbert L. Blitzer". Herb has written volumes on digital imaging.
sam sends....
smkirton@erols.com
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Anyone else with any input to the dialog thus far, or any more cases or references?
Tim Johnson dbugman@amug.org
Technical Security Consultants Inc
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/
What you say in private is your business.
Keeping it private is ours. (c)TSCI 1987
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19)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
Subject: Admissibility of digital photos?
Has anyone done any research on the admissibility of digital photos into
evidence in criminal proceedings?
I had an inquiry on my site and several responses, but I'd like to get
input from the big group of TSCMers and tech types. (If you're interested,
I should have those responses up by Monday).
Tim Johnson
Tim Johnson dbugman@amug.org
Technical Security Consultants Inc
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/
What you say in private is your business.
Keeping it private is ours. (c)TSCI 1987
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20)From: Jerry <ILQQK4DOE@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: run a MA plate?
One of the members of the list sent me e-mail and asked if I can run a
MA plate for them, and how long it would take.
Reply,
Yes I can.
It takes a few minutes after I receive your e-mail.
Information is availlable.
No real PI's do not work for free and please if you send some one e-mail
please include your correct address as it is very frustrating having
research sent back as undekiverable because of a bad e-mail address.
Please resend original data.
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21)From: "Lorenzo Castillo Sanchez" <espaniola@hotmail.com>
Subject: Missing Postings?
Gee, I only saw 5 postings on the July 11 issue of the newsletter.
I think there's gotta be some sort of a traffic jam. I don't see
the usual gang of contributors on this issue(Vol 2, Issue# 155).\
Well, anyway, let's keep up the good work ! :-)
+++Moderator's Note+++
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22)From: "john doe" <vacy@hotmail.com>
Subject: Decode this for me
I have recordings of some telephone tones on tape, is there a program
that can decode this for me.
+++Moderator's Note+++
Seek WinTone at: http://www.thecodex.com/faq.html
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23)From: Spysociety@aol.com
Subject: High school yearbooks available for viewing online?
Does anyone know if there are high school yearbooks available for viewing
online, specifically the Ventura County School District in California?
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24)From: "Giora Gilat" <ggilat@netvision.net.il>
Subject: Eavesdropping on ISDN lines
I recently moved to ISDN for voice and data communications.
How safe is this method? Is their any chance someone can illegally wiretap
my voice conversations?
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25)From: Larry Van Horn <steditor@GROVE.NET>
Subject: Government Watch: S.493
Here is the latest we have on Senate bill S.493.
S.493 was introduced March 20, 1997, by Senator Jon Kye (R-AZ). It would
enhance the ability of law enforcement officers to investigate and prosceute
anyone who engages in the unlawful "cloning" of cellular telephones. When
cloning, criminals illegally use a scanner to harvest electronic serial
numbers (ESN) from areas with heavy cellular activity. Every cellular phone
has its own ESN which it uses to access the telecommunications network and
create a billing record. Once an ESN is stolen, these criminals can use a
"copycat box" to reassign it to multiple phones. These phones can then use
someone else's ESN to make a call, and the bill will go back to that ESN's
legitmate owner.
S.493 would make it illegal to posess, produce, or sell copycat boxes and
the software needed to use them. It would also expand the definition of
"scanning receivers" to include any device that can be used to harvest ESNs.
All scanners, voice channel and non-voice channel, would then be subject to
those laws which already make it illegal to use a scanner with intent to
defraud. Many law abiding citizens use scanners as part of their hobby.
These users would not be effected by the provisions of S.493.
This bill has been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
<<<<<snip>>>>>
This information comes from a letter that Fred Dozier in Winter Park, FL
received from Senator Connie Macks office in Washington, DC.
Best Regards to all,
Larry Van Horn
MT Assistant Editor
Larry Van Horn, N5FPW (Brasstown, NC)
Grove Radio Email Newsgroups Coordinator
Assistant Editor/Utility World columnist-Monitoring Times
Ute World/Milcom Home Page: http://www.grove.net/~larry/uteworld.html
"If the Home Shopping Club merged with C-SPAN does that mean we can buy a
Congressman from home."
"Definition of Politics- Poly= Many....Tics= A blood sucking parasite."
"Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of congress.
....But I repeat myself." --- Mark Twain
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26)From: "J.D. Abolins" <jda-ir@pluto.njcc.com>
Subject: Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
>2)From: "Lorenzo Castillo Sanchez" <espaniola@hotmail.com>
>
> I'm sure a lot of folks are already familiar with this but I thought
> I should mention this subject. Type this command for your Netscape
> location -->> file:///C|/ (it's not an "I" it's this key right
> next to the backspace key, right below F11)
file:///C|/ is a standard URL notation for a local system file. In HTML,
specifying it in this statement <A HREF="file:///d|/dirname>Whatever text
you want</A> will set up a link on the page to whatever directory /dirname
is on whatever drive d: is.
The browser will attempt to display the llisting of that directory's
contents. In Netscape and many other browsers, this will be a listing
similar to a directory listing. This local file access is very useful when
developing Web pages. The designer does not have to transfer the HTML to
the Web server in order to get a look at the pages under a browser. (The
local file access method works well for a "poor man's intranet" on LANs
that don't support TCP/IP and regular intranets. All the users have to do
is have access to the network directory with the local pages.)
The site with a page that uses thw file:///c|/ in HTML code does NOT get
the contents of your hard drive's C:\ directory over to the server. Not
without some other program to provide a covert channel or something to the
server. But the URL nor the HTML themselves don't do this. Could be
possible with means such as a trojan horse or some other means. But the
local file borwsing URL is a great way to unerve people who aren't familar
with this. Thiey can be convinced that the Web site really does see their
hard disk contents. In some cases, this could lead to the person making
carless statements in email.
> BTW - what's the name of that key ?
It is often called a "pipe symbol". In various operating systems, such as
DOS, it is used to "pipe" the results of one program trhough another
program. Example: DIR C:\DATA\*.* | SORT.EXE > SORTED.DAT (The > is a
redirect to the specified device or file. This hypotechtical command line
would take the directory of C:\DATA, pipe the results through SORT.EXE and
redirect the sorted result to the file SORTED.DAT.)
The location of the pipe symbol varied with keyboards and it might not
alway look like a colon punctuation mark with two vertical straight lines.
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27)From: "JULIUS \"Buddy\" and LIZCA S BOMBET" <BUDDY@BOMBET.COM>
Subject: LPIA-NALI Professional Development Seminar
WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF HOTEL SPACE - MAKE A RESERVATION NOW IF YOU PLAN
TO ATTEND!!!
The National Association of Legal Investigators and the Louisiana
Private Investigators Association will be hosting a 3 day professional
development seminar and convention in New orleans, La., September 11-13,
1997 at the Chateau Sonesta Hotel. If you would like a brochure &
registration form please e-mail me your address and we will send one out
to you by snail mail. Here is the program:
LPIA 10th Anniversary Convention
NALI Region IV Seminar
Chateau Sonesta Hotel
New Orleans, Louisiana
1-800-SONESTA
Julius Bombet, CLI, CFE
Convention Host
E-Mail: buddy@bombet.com
Phone: 504-275-0796
Home: 504-272-2712
Thursday, September 11, 1997
Golf Tournament
Hospitality Suite Opens 5:00 p.m.
LCI Testing
Friday, September 12, 1997
8:00 a.m.
Coffee & Danish - Exibits Open
8:30 a.m
Welcome - Brannon Trahan, LCI & Thomas J. Cashio, CLI, LCI
8:45 a.m.
Kerry Farney, CLI
Physician Assisted Suicide Defense
EXPO Confidential Services
Orlando, FL
Kelly Riddle
The Art of Surveillance
Kelmar & Associates
San Antonio
9:45 a.m.
Break
10:00 a.m
John M. Lajoie, CLI/Stuart James
Self Defense Homicide Investigation
LaJoie Invesitgations, Inc.
West Boylston, MA
Bob Mackowiak
Marketing your PI Business
P.I. Magazine
Toledo, OH
11:30 a.m.
Luncheon & LPIA Meeting
1:45 p.m.
Reginald J. Montgomery, CLI
Defending the Juvenile in Sexual
Assault Cases
R.J. Montgomery Associates
Ramsey, NJ
Kitty Hailey, CLI
Matrimonial Investigations
Kitty Hailey Investigations
Cherry Hill, NJ
2:45 p.m.
Break
3:00 p.m.
Jim Steele
Insurance Fraud - The Staged Accident
Baton Rouge City Police
Baton Rouge, LA
Warren Levicoff
Fugutive Recovery as a Part Time Business
International Detective Services
4:00 p.m.
Break
4:15 p.m.
Randall W. Karrington
Do Murder, Mayhem &
Adrenaline Dictate Your Future?
Karrington & Karrington
Salt Lake City, UT
Lasson Legros, LCI
Invasion of Privacy
Lasson LeGros Investigative Services
Lake Charles, LA
5:15 p.m.
Seminar Session Ends for the Day
6:15 p.m.
Cocktail Party
Saturday, September 13, 1997
8:00 a.m.
Coffee & Danish - Exibits Open
8:20 a.m.
Lynn Wilson Marks
Document Evidence in
Crime Scene Investigations
Lynn Wilson Marks & Associates
San Antonio, TX
Nate Lenow
Automating Your Reports with Software
Lenow International, Inc.
Memphis, TN
9:20 a.m.
Break
9:30 a.m.
W. Ken Katsaris
Civil Claims of Police Use of Force
Tallahassee, FL
George Schiro
Shooting Reconstruction - When the
Bullet Hits the Bone
George Schiro, Consulting Forensic Scientist
Baton Rouge, LA
11:00 a.m.
Break
11:15 a.m.
James Brewer
The Internet and the 21st
Century Investigator
Angel & Brewer, Ltd.
LaGrange, IL
Paul J. Ciolino, CLI
Topic to be announced
Paul J. Ciolino & Associates, Inc.
Chicago, IL
12:15 a.m.
Awards & Banquet
2:30 p.m.
Crime Scene Workshop
Stuart James and John Lajoie
Forensic Consultants, Inc.
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
5:00 p.m.
Program Concludes
--
Your LOUISIANA Connection Bombet, Cashio & Associates
504-275-0796 Fax 504-272-3631 12077 Old Hammond Highway
http://www.bombet.com Baton Rouge, LA 70816
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28)From: KRomin1351@aol.com
Subject: On-line PI Directory Is Up
RLS's On-line PI diretory is up at <A HREF="http://www.romingerlegal.com/">htt
p://www.romingerlegal.com</A>
Please feel free to utilize the directory when you need to find someone for
out of state service.
Karl Rominger
RLS
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Satire? The Shape of things to come...
02) FBI Info?
03) Mobile Phones turned remote-controlled surveillance devices?
04) Need Equipment Values
05) New hacker book from Australia
06) Re: AT@T Long Distance Charges
07) Re: ISDN Lines
08) Job Opening
09) Diversion request, NOT a bomb request
10) Re:ISDN Eavesdropping
11) Spy in your car SIR
12) Re: "EMP WEAPONS: URBAN LEGENDS MESMERIZE INFOWAR KOOKS
13) Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
14) Thunder Ranch
15) NYC - Hackers Convention
16) Audio processing software ?
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1)From: Larry Ball <lball@inetnebr.com>
Subject: Satire? The Shape of things to come...
SUPREME COURT BULLETIN
The United States Supreme Court today handed down an important
decision in the area of civil liberties.
The decision interprets the Second Amendment, which reads as
follows:
"A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a
free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall
not be infringed."
In a well reasoned opinion, Ruth Bader Ginsberg ruled that a
federal law requiring a 15 day waiting period for the purchase of
books was constitutional, and that companion parts of the bill,
banning the manufacture and sale of inexpensive paperback books,
as well as a ban on possession of an electronic copy of a book
(which could be used to facilitate copyright violation by fully
automatic duplication over electonic bulletin boards) passes
constitutional muster.
In a logical tour-de-force, Ms. Ginzberg reasoned that the clause
"A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a
free state" made it clear that "the intent of the amendment was
merely to prevent the federal government from interfering with
the purchase and distribution of books by public schools and
universities." The amendment was never intended to convey upon
individuals an unfettered right to own books.
Similary, the use of the collective term "People", when refering
to "the right of the People" makes it clear that the Second
Amendment creates a collective right that can be exercised by the
whole people, through the schools, and was not intended to create
any rights on the part of individuals to own books.
In her words, "If the framers had meant to create a right of
individuals to purchase or keep books, then they would have used
the term "person" or "individual" and not "people".
Justice Ginsberg noted that she was following numerous earlier,
lower court decisions in arriving at this conclusion, noting that
the government need only show that it has a "significant
interest" in regulating the sale or possession of books, and that
it need not show a compelling interest. Thus, a governmental
interest in ensuring that dangerous books do not fall into
impressionable or immature hands is enough.
Satire------Satire-----Satire-----Satire-----Satire-----Satire-----Satire
Larry Ball
lball@inetnebr.com
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2)From: "The Fone Phreak" <fonephreak@hotmail.com>
Subject: FBI Info?
I saw once a loooooong time ago, someone posted a address u could snail
mail 2, and get a copy of the file the FBI has on you and how 2 do it.
Could this get posted again?
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3)From: Frank Rieger <frank@ccc.de>
Subject: Mobile Phones turned remote-controlled surveillance devices?
The german newspaper Der Spiegel reports on a new book about the BND
(german foreign intelligence service), citing a passage about mobile phones
turned audio surveilance devices. The book claims, that the intelligence
orgs are able to switch the microphone in mobile phones on to listen at
will.
I.m.o. this may be theoretically possible by some hidden features in the
phones software.
Has someone on the list heard about hard evidence on this topic? Is there
someone analysing mobile phone software in search for such hidden features?
Are there known cases (maybee in the US) for such operations?
The only case I know of was the usage of a _wireless phone_ for such
purposes. It involved a forgery of the mobile set ID to use the "room
control"-feature in the base station. The attack was detected, cause the
victim wondered about the ever-burning TX-LED on the base-station and the
limited useabilty of the phone. However, this is something _completly
different_, if the claims in this book are true, we have to look at our
mobile phones with a new perspective.
Thanks for your help.
Frank
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4)From: Ron Smalley <rons@ns.planet.gen.nz>
Subject: Need Equipment Values
I have to provide a value and possible origin of the following Equipment as
part of a report.
The Equipment is not familiar to me, and unseen, so would appreciate any
feed back.
.
AR2000 Frequency Scanner. (poss Japanese)
UZ400 Room transmitter.
UZ100 Mains Room Receiver.
U220 Mains Power Transmitter.
TX1 Room Portable Transmitter.
TX5 Room Portable Transmitter.
TD 6DX Telephone transmitter.
390730 Body Worn Transmitter. (poss Israeli )
M 66A Wall Receiver
TX Radio, Room Receiver.
N770V VOC Recorder.
.
Thanks for you help on this.
Ron Smalley.
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5)From: proff@suburbia.net
Subject: New hacker book from Australia
A few people will have heard me mention this book already, but I think
there are bits and pieces of this book which will surprise quite a few
people. Most of us are used to reading stories about hacking by the
people who did the catching of the hackers...this one is an ongoing
story of the local hacker scene...with not so local contacts and exploits.
Some of the important things to note are just how well they do work
together, as well as competing with each other and what they do when
they get pissed off with each other. Meanwhile most of the white hats
are too busy trying to hoard information from the other white hats...
Having been on the "victim" side in the past, it is quite frustrating
when someone you've worked to have arrested gets off with a fine. Most
of us would agree that they should be locked up somewhere, but
according to what's in the book, most of them are suffering from either
problems at home or other mental disorders (including one claim in court
to being addicted to hacking). Anyone for a "Hackers Anonymous Association"
for help in drying out from this nefarious activity ? At least in one
case documented within the perpetrators get sentenced to time behind bars.
It's somewhat comforting to read that people have actually broken into
the machines which belong to security experts such as Gene Spafford and
Matt Bishop, although I'd have preferred to have not read how they
successfully broke into the NIC :-/ Don't know about you, but I don't
care what motives they have, I'd prefer for them to not be getting inside
machines which provide integral services for the Internet.
For all of you who like to hide behind firewalls, in one instance a hacker
comes in through X.25 and out onto the Internet. Nice and easy 'cause
we don't need to firewall our X.25 connection do we ? :-)
Oh, and just for all those VMS weenies who like to say "We're secure,
we run VMS not Unix" - the first chapter of the book is on a VMS worm
called "WANK" that came close to taking the NASA VMS network completely
off air. I wonder how long it will take for an NT equivalent to surface...
All in all, a pretty good read (one from which I'm sure hackers will learn
just as much from as the rest of us).
The book's details are:
Title: UNDERGROUND - Tales of Hacking, madness and obsession on the
Electronic Frontier
ISBN 1-86330-595-5
Author: Suelette Dreyfus
Publisher: Random House
Publisher's address: 20 Alfred St, Milsons Point, NSW 2061, Australia
Price: AUS$19.95
before I forget, the best URL for the book I've found is:
http://www.underground-book.com (http://underground.org/book is a mirror)
Darren
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6)From: "Brandon" <dr.w@childsearch.org>
Subject: Re: AT@T Long Distance Charges
Perhaps this one needs further clarification? When I called to try and get information this way... IS DIDN'T WORK like this at all...
NO opportunity to enter the number to identify
NO opportunity to dispute the charges
Perhaps its another phone number you intended to share?
>1)From: jaross@notes.primeco.com
>Subject: AT@T Long Distance Charges
>
>AT@T Long Distance Users can now call the toll free 800.222.0300 number
>and locate any unidentified call by typing in the number, the computer will
>then play a message of who you called. Then if you wish to dispute the
>charges simply type in the amount you want refunded and WALLAH the amount
>is then deducted from your account
>**** I wonder how much a person can deduct per call per account?*****
>Sounds like discount city to me
Child Search Ministries
PO Box 73725
Houston, TX 77273-3725
281-288-7800 - Direct Line (Brandon)
281-350-KIDS - Help Line
281-537-2111 - Admin Line
281-353-4400 - Fax Line
281-353-6477 - Alt Fax Line
Dr.W@childsearch.org
http://www.childsearch.org
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7)From: thesaint <thesaint@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: ISDN Lines
>I recently moved to ISDN for voice and data communications.
>How safe is this method? Is their any chance someone can illegally wiretap
>my voice conversations?
ISDN lines are obviously much safer than standard phone lines. Im not sure
if we use the same ISDN setup here in OZ as your country, however we have
managed to tap an ISDN line. Transmitters and the like appear to be useless
on our systems but creating a double jumper in the IDF room and running the
cable to another phone of the same make works well.
If you're prepared to take some time, and if the jobs worth it you can re
wire an ISDN line with a six wire cable, connecting the two extra wires to
the microphone/speaker inside the phone itself, where the communication
remains in analogue state, run these wires to a recorder or transmitter
somewhere down the line and you're set.
If in doubt use the universal rule, "NEVER SAY ANYTHING OUT LOUD IF YOU DONT
WANT SOMEONE TO HEAR IT" As fast as technology invents ways to create
privacy there are people working just as fast to deny it. (thank god).
Regards
J Erlandsson
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8)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
Subject: Job Opening
This just came in and appears to have a short suspense on it.
tj
Subject: Job Opening
Telos Corporation, an Asburn,VA based computer technologies company, has an
immediate opening for an Industrial Security Clerk. Requires a good knowledge
of military, company and customer security requirements. Must have some
college and internship experience or 2 yrs related experience in industrial
security clearance procedures. Telos offers excellent benefits, including
tutition assistance. Send (mail or fax) resume to Telos Corporation, Attn:
Mary Ann Slocumb, 199886 Ashburn Rd.,Ashburn, VA 20147 Fax: 1-800-296-4129.
Visit Telos web site <Telos.com> for other career opportunities. This is a
fast track fill.
Tim Johnson dbugman@amug.org
Technical Security Consultants Inc
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/
What you say in private is your business.
Keeping it private is ours. (c)TSCI 1987
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9)From: Brian Eberle <pamowx@voicenet.com>
Subject: Diversion request, NOT a bomb request
Hi everyone,
I have a question, does anyone know the names of some ingredients I can
through together in the field that would create a diversion? Now don't
get me wrong, I am NOT looking to make a bomb or hurt anyone, I am just
looking for a way (god forbid I get into a situation where I need a
quick distraction) that I could say combine a couple of chemicals or
materials that would create a short, unharmful (meaning I'm not going to
blow up anything or hurt anyone) distraction so that I can get my tail
outta there. Any suggestions or know where I can find that kinda info?
Thanks for your help.
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10)From: William Xu <william@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
Subject: Re:ISDN Eavesdropping
It should be possible to eavesdrop ISDN lines. Now I don't know
exactly how to do it but t might just work.
Since everything is in binary codes i.e.:00010101
you can capture it on to a DAT tape (Digital Audio Tapes)
these are also used for tape backups, so if it is voice play it on a
DAT deck, if it is Computer DATA, get a tape backup.
I am not sure if Analog tapes will work.
holo
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11)From: Terry Martin <terry_martin@mindlink.bc.ca>
Subject: Spy in your car SIR
There's a rumor out there that the General Motors Supplemental
Inflatable Restraint (SIR) controller, (airbag controller), is the
equivalent of an aircraft "blackbox", which monitors and records in
non-volatile memory the last 60 seconds of the data on the On Board
Computer system data link, which monitors practically everything
including the speed of the vehicle, the ABS brake controller etc.
I would like to know more about this, such as is it true?, and if
anyone has ever been told when they purchased a new vehicle if this type
of monitoring of their driving was going on?
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12)From: Ted Johsnon <tedd@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: "EMP WEAPONS: URBAN LEGENDS MESMERIZE INFOWAR KOOKS
>4)From: gaugusti@hqgbcs.attmail.com (Grant Augustine x4058)
>Subject: Other side - "EMP WEAPONS: URBAN LEGENDS MESMERIZE INFOWAR KOOKS
>
>Excuse me while I chuckle ;-) Youse grrls got all the facks!
>
>Now go read the other side in Crypt Newsletter 43 at
>http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/other/crpt43.htm. Selected excerpts follow:
>
>* EMP gun: n. Always suspected but never seen, the EMP -- electromagnetic
pulse --
>weapon is the chupacabra of cyberspace.
>* ..., Winn Schwartau did much to embed the myth of the emp weapon in the
>mainstream imagination with his 1994 book "Information Warfare."
This weekend in Las Vegas, at Def Con 5 (a hackers convention) an EMP and
Rail gun was was demonstrated. They work and are effective, not just
imagination any more.
Sincerely,
Ted Johnson
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13)From: Jon Connolly <joncon@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
Reading your hard drive on a Netscape browser
If you want and your Netscape browser is configed for it you can use it
as a Filemanager or an explorer plus you can bookmark a directory or a
file. Like I said it must be configed to play or view the file
If you type in "C:\" it will do the same as file:///C|/
Good luck
Jon Connolly
PS Last week I posted a question on an office phone I thought I would be
lucky if I got 1 writeback but I got over 30. To everybody who wrote
THANKS again
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14)From: bennett2@iquest.net
Subject: Thunder Ranch
I have recently attended my second week of pistol training at Thunder
Ranch in Texas. For those that are considering some type of hand gun,
rifle or shotgun training, I can certainly recommend Thunder Ranch.
The list of satisfied students reads like a who's who in the world of
Emergency Response Teams, Hostage Rescue Teams, Special Forces Teams,
the Secret Service, etc..
I teach self defense pistol classes in the midwest and work with some
police ERT's and felt very much at home in this program.
The program uses a learn by doing approach. Last year I attended
Defensive Handgun I and shot almost 1,200 rounds in a 5 day program.
Last month I attended Defensive Handgun II and shot 2,200 rounds in a
five day program.
In each program I ran five scenarios in the shoot house called the
Terminator. The five scenarios in the most recent class were much more
difficult to resolve.
The final scenario we ran last month involved the four story shoot house
called the tower.
We had to go up the outside of the four story building by ladder, drop
in an opening in the top floor and resolve a terrorist scenario with
hostages on each floor. There was a five minute time limit which
included scaling the building. This time limit just added to the stress
which is what it's all about. Anybody can shoot bullseyes under no
pressure or time limit. Try to shoot a terrorist in the head while he
has a hostage held in front of him and he's able to shoot back at least
in theory and it's a whole new ball game.
This is all done with live fire. Body armor is required and is
furnished if you don't have any. About 50% of us did have.
They really get you cranked up and you will learn a lot about yourself.
As an example of the type of people in the program, two fire arm
instructors for the secret service were in my class so that tells a lot
about the level of training I'm speaking of.
I am enrolled in the final class in the series which is offered once a
year. This year it is in October.
If you think this is for you, you should contact them ASAP because 1997
is 75% booked.
The fee is $900.00 for the classes I have taken and that only gets you
in the class. Room and board, transpertation and all that ammo is
extra.
All of their training is not this intense. They have entry level
programs as well but you can probably get those classes locally.
They can be contacted at:
Thunder Ranch
HCR 1, Box 53
Mountain Home, TX. 78058
PHN: 210.640.3138
FAX: 210.640.3183
Tell Clint, Larry sent ya!
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15)From: David Blumenstein <david@david.com>
Subject: NYC - Hackers Convention
Please spread the word to your co-workers, colleagues, family and friends
BeyondHOPE
For more information contact:
http://www.hope.net
BEYONDHOPE, THE HACKERS CONVENTION, IS BACK IN NEW YORK CITY THIS SUMMER
Who: The people who brought you HOPE (Hackers on Planet Earth) in the
summer of 1994
What: The sequel to the original HOPE (Hackers on Planet Earth) Conference
in 1994. This convention is where "bleeding" edge technology and issues are
exposed far in advance of their acceptance and reporting by the mainstream
population and media
Where: Puck Building, 295 Lafayette, New York City, NY
When: August 8, 9 and 10, 1997
Why: WHY NOT? There will be panel discussions and demonstrations of and
about security, privacy, telephony, and hacking. Featured speakers and
attendees will debate just how "free" we are from intrusions: governmental,
corporate, electronic, etc...and how wireless we can become
How: Register to attend via the internet on the BeyondHOPE web site:
http://www.hope.net E-Mail: press@2600.com
The registration fee for the convention is $20.00 for EVERYONE. There are
NO exceptions.
/david
_________________
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www.david.com
+++Moderator's Note+++
And don't forget OUR seminar that begins on Thursday August 7th... the day before the HOPE convention... see http://www.thecodex.com/methods.html
for more info
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16)From: Paul.Bulmer@nestlegb.nestle.com
Subject: Audio processing software ?
I have a tape that has conversations on it at times the background noise
is louder than the wanted voice , if I feed this audio source
into my soundblaster I can see the different wave forms , I can identify
the wave form of the voices and also the background noise.
Is there any software that will allow me to fade or cut unwanted wave
forms ??
Best regards Paul ..
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Re: FBI Info?
02) International Training Program.
03) Re: ISDN
04) TSCM/Protection of Proprietary information
05) Re: "EMP WEAPONS: URBAN LEGENDS MESMERIZE INFOWAR KOOKS"
06) PI Radio Show
07) Re: Mobile Phones turned remote-controlled surveillance devices?
08) Re: Congressional Proposal
09) Computer Problems. (This End)
10) Re: FBI Info?
11) Soundcode/Vasco Announce Partnership
12) Re: ISDN Eavesdropping
13) ANNUAL REORGANIZATION OF #TOPCOPS ON THE UNDERNET!
14) Surveillance devices
15) Re: Thunder Ranch
16) Bug design?
17) Re: Audio Processing Software
18) Remote Surveillance Devices & New Hacking Books
19) Boxing
20) Re: What's that key?
21) Published: Gotcha! Monitoring tools track Web surfing at work
22) Need NP
23) TSCM PC CARD ON A BUDGET!
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1)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: Re: FBI Info?
It was I who posted that info. Here it is again:
The Federal Bureau of Investigations keeps files on almost
every person in the entire
country. They must send you your file if you want them to.
There will not be any charge if the file is under fifty pages.
If it is over 50 pages, then there will be a copying charge of
ten cents per page. Your file can be obtained by
simply mailing a letter to them. However,
the letter must be worded properly or else they will not comply, or
may only send you part of it. Here is the address which you may
use to contact the F.B.I.:
Director
Federal Bureau of Investigations
Washington D.C., 20535
Here is the letter:
<YOUR NAME>
<YOUR ADDRESS>
<CITY, STATE, ZIP>
<YOUR PHONE NUMBER>
Dear Sir:
I am requesting a copy of any personal file which you may
have on myself (SSN <Your sovial security number>).
In addition, I am requesting
copies of all files, dossiers, documents, or materials referring
to myself. If you consider some material exempt from diclosure,
release the material to me with deletions indicated and specify
your legal support for having made those deletions. Finally, I
require a response within ten working days, as provided by the
Freedom of Information Act. I appreciate your time and your
compliance with my request and the law.
Thank you,
<YOUR NAME>
This letter must be notarized. To notarize a letter go to some
bank, NOT the Post Office. The bank will check your
identification a stamp your letter, then go to the PO and mail
this letter. The C.I.A. also has files, but I believe they stopped
updating information in 81. A similar request can be made of ANY
government agency. Knock your self out!
Enjoy!
-WW
--
My ICQ UIN is 1430880.
-=WindWalker Access=- -=PeaceFire=-
http://www.dynanet.com/~wieland/ http://www.peacefire.org/
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2)From: L J Strand <ljsaisa@algonet.se>
Subject: International Training Program.
We still have a few openings to our September BTP-course!
10% discount for Surveillance List Forum members.
The International Security Agency is an international organization
representing the interests of the public and private sector, selected
corporations
and organizations world-wide. Our own training facilities are administrated
by the I.S.A. Academy. The training program was originally designed
for I.S.A. personnel only, but to the great demand we have decided
to open the Academy to the public.
We train personnel from all over the world. No matter what your reasons may
be for attending one of our courses, improving your skills, looking for a
new career or a contract of employment. You will receive one of the most
authentic and up to date Bodyguard, Surveillance and Countermeasure training
program available in Scandinavia today.
The program is designed to ensure that the basic knowledge and skills are
developed which will enable each student to effectively discharge their
complex responsibilities. The Basic Training Program provides a
intensive instruction for students at the I.S.A. Academy. Both male and
female applicants are welcome. No previous experience needed!
For full details of the I.S.A. Academy and to receive application
forms, visit us at: http://www.algonet.se/~ljsaisa/
Yours Sincerely;
L J Strand
INTERNATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY
http://www.algonet.se/~ljsaisa
ljsaisa@algonet.se
Tel: Int+46 (0)8-645 22 82 (09.00am-05.00pm C.E.T.)
Fax/Data: Int+46 (0)8-645 22 82 (24h)
PoBox 167, S-162 12 Stockholm, Sweden
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3)From: Frank Rieger <frank@ccc.de>
Subject: Re: ISDN
Since ISDN is a European invention, there are several manufacturers
especially in Germany providing all kind of ISDN test equipment. Most of
these tools have a listen-on function. They start around $1000, are twice
the size of a standard multimeter and provide support for all kinds of
protocols.
You can assume in general, that ISDN is _at the moment_ sligthly more
resistant against eavesdropping from the low-level amateur but for
professionals or state-backed organisations it is much more comfortable to
listen and to generate communication profiles. It is not possible to detect
an recording device on a ISDN line, if it is the big brother listening to
you, cause the line to the agency is only made by byte-copy in the
switching stations line processor. There is no physical influence any more
to measure (like time domain reflectometers etc.)
Simple ISDN surveilance is based on PC solutions (man in the middle),
hacking of ISDN PBXes or faulty telephones. Last example was a product from
TELES (with several re-branders also affected) wich gave you a perfect
hard-to-detect listening on the second B-channel of the ISDN-line simply by
pressing * on the keypad. The bug was fixed, but there are more arround.
Professional equipment is for sale for atstronomical high prices from
several (german) companies. (The usual suspects 8-)).
Frank
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4)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
Subject: TSCM/Protection of Proprietary information
The Technical Surveillance Countermeasures/Protection of Proprietary
information being presented by Technical Security Consultants, Inc will be
held as follows:
John Adams Building
1776 Heritage Drive
Quincy, MA 02171
7 and 8 August 1997
Quincy is located about 15 minutes south of Boston.
For additional information, restrictions, or to submit an application, go to
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/seminar.html
Tim Johnson
602-786-0909
Tim Johnson dbugman@amug.org
Technical Security Consultants Inc
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/
What you say in private is your business.
Keeping it private is ours. (c)TSCI 1987
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5)From: Chris Collins <chris@sunbelt.sunbelt.com>
Subject: Re: "EMP WEAPONS: URBAN LEGENDS MESMERIZE INFOWAR KOOKS"
TED:
Ted I think you are mistaken. The Nerf Cannon was not aloud to be
tested because someone from the F.C.C. was notified and told the Def-Con
officials that they couldn't demo the EM pulse cannon.
The guy who had the "Rail Gun", didn't get to test it either, because
he didn't have a 15000v capacitor, plus I personally don't think the cap
would give the "Rail Gun" enough power towards the end of the process because
the capacitor is draining more and more as the process is running and the whole
process is supposed to get more energy and more speed as the disc flys towards
the end of the pvc pipe.
Needless to say, I was at most of the convention. But I could have
missed both demos, but then again I think I would of heard of their successful
miracles. If I'm wrong then let me know.
ThE MiLiTaNt
Larkinson's Law:
All laws are basically false.
Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, '227,
any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address
is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500
US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
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6)From: JoeSleuth@aol.com
Subject: PI Radio Show
i have a radio talk show locally (bethlehem pa. w.g.p.a. 1100am) listeners
in parts of new jersey as well.my show YOU BE THE DETECTIVE has a call in
format my guests include authors, other P.i.s i , even a co-producer from
the learning chanel medicial detectives any member who wants to say something
to my listening public can either E mail me an article or be my guest (if you
want to travel)my show advocates the private sector any sponsers are
welcome call me at 1 800 637 7507 or E Mail me at joesleuth@aol.com
AS ALWAYS SPYKING YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB
INCIDENTLEY THE LAST POSTING 97-07-15 12:09 edt HAS SOMEONE REQUESTING BOMB
INGREDIENTS AND ANOTHER REQUESTING EVESDROPPING INFO. THEY SAY THEY WANT
INFO FOR OTHER REASONS I HOPE I DONT SEE THEIR REQUEST ANSWERED LETS KEEP
THIS SERVICE CLEAN NO NUTS PLEASE SORRY IF I HURT ANYONES FEELINGS
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7)From: Martin Pask <100142.3101@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Mobile Phones turned remote-controlled surveillance devices?
With regard to what you are talking about and making the mike of the phone
live. Yes this was posible with the older analog system but as far as I know it
is not posible with digital systems.
M.P.I.
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8)From: Bill Halpin <BillH37988@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Congressional Proposal
Man I'm getting a little sick & tired everytime I read my E-Mail about how
Congress wants to attack us radio monitors & scanner owners so that they can
get a few extra thousand dollars from some special interest group. Enough is
enough.
I had a deep gutted feeling that when the trunktracker came out that
something was going to happen. Something stupid like this!
First of all I believe half of the Congress didn't even know what a scanner
was until the Newt incident during the beginning of the year. Then along came
the special interest groups with cash in hand looking for some jerk to
propose some stupid legislation, they the special interest group wrote. Dare,
I smell a large corporate company involved in this one. It's getting old
folks!
I encourage all members of this mail group to write and bombard their local
congressman with a request to put a end to this madness. Next, this is
America and we have the power to make changes. Election year is just around
the corner and our vote is still powerful if we vote in numbers. It's time
for a change!
Remember some elected officials will back stab you for a dollar. I seen
enough of that while active with Union activities. Take 1 dollar from the
union and 2 dollars from the company. What a system huh?
Speak loudly! This is America!! Don't seat around and discuss it, act on it
now!
If I offended anyone with my remarks and opinions. Tough!!!
Mr. Lawmaker your going to have to pry my radios from my dead hands!
Off My Soap Box!!!
Bill Halpin
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9)From: Katrina & or Richard ELLIOTT <elliotts@om.com.au>
Subject: Computer Problems. (This End)
Hi Everyone,
I think I've got hard drive problems. The hard drive is making a sort of
grinding noise and I got a warning from First Aid, A Windows Problem
Diagnostic Program, that the hard drive may stop within a few days.
Would you be able to *stop* sending me E-Mail, for the time being? I
currently receive:
The Surveillance List
Keep up the good work, all!
Richard Elliott.
elliotts@ozemail.com.au
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10)From: Genocide <gen2600@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: FBI Info?
>>>>
I saw once a loooooong time ago, someone posted a address u could snail
mail 2, and get a copy of the file the FBI has on you and how 2 do it.
Could this get posted again?
<<<<
Try going to: http://www.glr.com/fbiform.txt
There you can print out a form and it also has info on where to
send it to your local FBI office...
Genocide
Head of the Genocide2600 Group
____________________
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Email: gen2600@aracnet.com Web: http://www.aracnet.com/~gen2600
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It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion.
It is by the Mountain Dew that the thoughts acquire speed,
the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning.
It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion.
===============================================================================
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11)From: Pete Adlerberg <pete@soundcode.com>
Subject: Soundcode/Vasco Announce Partnership
Greetings from the Pacific Northwest! We're excited to announce a strategic partnership between Vasco Data Security and Soundcode. This partnership will bring Soundcode products to Vasco's growing domestic market.
Excerpts from the press release:
VASCO Data Security, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of VASCO Corp. (OTCBB: VASC), today announced the introduction, and immediate availability, of a new personal computer security product - VACMan/Point 'n Crypt. VACMan/Point 'n Crypt is a member of the VACMan Security Suite. The VACMan Security Suite provides comprehensive network authentication, authorization, accounting, and now with VACMan/Point 'n Crypt, encryption services.
VASCO Corp., headquartered in Lombard, IL, and its foreign and domestic subsidiaries offer information security technologies which enable critical client applications designed to achieve corporate initiatives and improve profitability. Since 1986, VASCO has become a leader in computer security authentication devices, with more than 1.8 million sold worldwide to date.
Details of this joint venture can be found in the Soundcode Press Box at www.soundcode.com.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to contact me directly or write to info@soundcode.com.
Sincerely,
Pete Adlerberg
Corporate Development
Soundcode, Inc.
pete@soundcode.com
(206) 325-1996 (v)
(206) 329-4351 (f)
www.soundcode.com
(888) 45-SOUND (76863) (toll-free)
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12)From: Kevin Quilliam <lepord@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: ISDN Eavesdropping
A DAT will probably not work for this purpose due to the Nyquist frequency
of the DAT sampling. Without getting too technical on Nyquist frequencies
and digital sampling, basically the ISDN is probably sending data faster
then the DAT would sample that data stream. The ISDN might be sending 5
bits in a second, while the DAT only samples once per second (of course it
is happening much faster). It will therefore miss 4 of the bits.
I think you might be on the right track though, if you used a device
that simply read the 0's and 1's right into a computer, instead of reading
them in analong and converting to digital, then back to analong like a DAT
does...
>10)From: William Xu <william@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
>Subject: Re:ISDN Eavesdropping
>It should be possible to eavesdrop ISDN lines. Now I don't know
>exactly how to do it but t might just work.
>Since everything is in binary codes i.e.:00010101
>you can capture it on to a DAT tape (Digital Audio Tapes)
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13)From: Deborah Gulley <lawwoman@inch.com>
Subject: ANNUAL REORGANIZATION OF #TOPCOPS ON THE UNDERNET!
Over the past several weeks and months there has appeared a need to make some changes in the way the operations of #TOPCOPS has been run. Many ideas have been thought of and discussed, even argued about without much success in coming to a consensus among those who are currently on the panel of the Board of Directors on which direction we should go to keep up with the positive changes that are affecting the channel itself.
I have now reached a decision as the owner of the channel as to which direction I want to see the panel grow, while the channel continues to flourish in its own current growth. It has not been an easy decision to make, and it may not be the popular choice among those that currently call our channel home, those that are currently operators, or even those that are currently panel members, but ultimately the choice is mine. The one thing that I do hope out of this decision, other than it is a success, is that everyone that is now affected by it, will honor it, and view it as a positive change. As with everything else in life we need to try new things in order to grow. The chances we do take throughout life build character, and form the people that we become. Without these steps, we certainly do not go forward, instead we stay stagnant, become bitter, and eventually die off.
Effective 01 July 1997 those that I have placed in the #2 position of #TOPCOPS will be leaving the panel, and will continue in their places as my second in command. Those two people are WODSMAN and JAMAMN. There did not seem to be much objection when I placed them as the second in command, and they do seem to work well together. The remainder of the panel will stay intact as a panel and will continue to make up the policies for the channel, there will be a change however in how those policies will become operating procedures for the channel. Once the panel has met and decided on issues that need to be addressed, they will then meet with Wodsman, JamaMn, and myself. At that time we will have the ultimate decision as to whether the issues decided upon will become policy as decided by the panel, or what if any modifications are needed to those decisions. It is after the three of us have met that those new policies will be made known to the operators and users of the channel!
. These policy changes will be published in the newsletter. If there appears to be an urgent need to change a policy, we will make every effort to notify those ops, and channel members via e-mail or through word of mouth as a last resort.
One of the first issues that I would like the current panel to work on is that of making the panel a rotating position. I feel that those on the panel have done an excellent job in the work that was needed to be done, and I feel that it is time to allow them to rest and enjoy the channel that they have helped build into one of the finest channels on IRC. I need them to determine a procedure for making this happen smoothly and without any apparent disruption to the channel itself. My thoughts were to make the duration of a panel member for a period of one year. Maybe after the initial rotation I will see that it needs to be longer or shorter, or that a mistake was made in the entire process, however, I do want others to have the opportunity to "sit in the hot seat" and push the buttons to make the channel run as smoothly as it has over the past couple of years.
The Final Determination will be as follows:
1. The Panel will remain intact and will consist of the same members for a term of one year beginning Sept.1, 1997. If for some reason a panel member leaves the channel, asked to be removed from the panel ship or is impeached for any reason, another member of the channel will be offered the vacant position. A panel member will be impeached from the position of panel member due to long absences from the channel, non participation in the operation/support and management of the channel and any and all attempts to undermined, breakup or wreak havoc in the channel----Although, I cant imagine anyone on our panel doing such a thing it would be grounds for impeachment in the unlikely event that it ever happenedI guess that would be the intended goal if anyone did such a thing J
Effective Immediately:
This body of members will be known as the Panel Team and they are as follows:
Fop1, Umfufu, Cameron, Rhiannyn, Lieut, CheseCake, DetWas, CopGirl,
and newly appointed to the panel will be: Warden1 and Harm31. Making a total of ten members to the Panel Team. Beginning Sept. 1, 1997 this group of members will be remain in office for a term of 1 year unless a member leaves the channel, resigns from the panel, or is impeached from the panel for some reason. Any person who is presently on the panel who feels they are unable to effectively service in this position at this time for ANY reason would be expected to resign from the position as this is a position of responsibility and accountability and power within the channel membership.
2. Bolivar and Lt617 hold valuable positions with #TopCops in that they are responsible for our FANTASTIC web page. They will become part of the Supervisory Team, which will be a new concept on #TopCops.
The Supervisory Team and are as follows:
Wodsman, JamaMN, Lt617, Bolivar, and LawWOMAN.
The position on the Supervisory Team is not subject to a term. If a member leaves or is impeached for some reason, I will offer the position to another member of the channel the position. The Supervisory Team will be responsible for making the final decisions concerning all issues voted on by the Panel Team.
This body of members will not attend panel meetings but will hold a separate meeting at an appointed time after each panel meeting.
3. The Panel will continue to vote on issues concerning the operation of the channel; they will continue to address problems which may arise in the channel. They will continue to meet periodically, however a once a month meeting schedule will be implemented as of Sept 1, 1997. As well as, a One year term to the position of Panel member The panel will be broken up into two teams for the purpose of conducting meetings. The teams are as follows:
Team 1:Team 2:
RhiaFop
WardenUmfufu/Trudy
ChesecakeHarm
DetWasCopGirl
CameronLieut
Wood0601
A team captain will be elected on a rotation basis and just prior to the scheduled meeting date. One person will also be delegated to keep a record of the meeting on a rotation basis which will be promptly submitted to the Supervisory panel upon conclusion of each meeting.
There are many handicaps that has made the team concept necessary, at least on a trial basis. The lag in insane and the time zone makes meetings impossible for most members and there is too much room for miscommunication with a large group on the rare occasions when there is a large group at panel meeting. I would like to state for the record that just because there is a panel and panel meetings does not necessitate the creation of issues to be resolved, if there is no problems to resolve just let well enough alone, PLEASE!!!!
4. The op list will cap at 25. There will be no more than 25 Ops in the bot at any given time, however, this does not include multiple isp address nor does it include Members of the Supervisory Panel. Once the 25 ops quota has been met, new ops will be added according to vacancies and the nominations will be made by panel members and voted upon by same. All ops should be considered according to seniority. However, if a member has been in the channel longer than another but that member is deemed inappropriate for an op position at that particular time he/she can be passed over for a member with less seniority. These nominations will be submitted to the supervisory panel for review and installation into the bot. Any member who has not been inactive in the channel for more than 30 days without advising the panel of a long absence will be removed from the bot. Inactive means a member has failed to login at any point or time for more than 30 days
Currently, the members up for ops are Canine, CousinNick, GodMod, Big_G, Lawjudge, Dona969 and who ever I have not been seeing due to infrequency on the channel.
If there are any questions please feel free to ask any member of the Supervisory panel or myself. In the event that problems arise with the new reorganization program. We will work to resolve them as we go and grow. Thank each and everyone of you for you support, best wishes and cooperation in our efforts to make #TopCops channel the same MARVELOUS success that TopCops Newsletter and Web page has been and continue to be!!
Sincerely,
Supervisory Team
Check out our feature Web pages;
http://www.inch.com/~lawwoman/topcops/.#TopCops from Around the World
http://home1.gte.net/bolivar/bluerose.htm...BlueRose Computers
http://home1.gte.net/wodsman.MAH page (Martial Arts for Handicapable, Inc)
Our webpage says it all, http://www.inch.com/~lawwoman/topcops/
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Sincerely,
LawWOMAN, Members & Staff of
TopCops Organization, Inc.
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14)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
Subject: Surveillance devices
I've been asked by an associate to querry the electronics/intelligence
community for assistance.
This pertains to electronic listening devices.
Has anyone out there ever found multiple devices in the same location on
the same sweep?
Have any of you former Federal types ever used battery operated
transmitters in criminal/covert operations?
Tim Johnson
***********************************
Tim Johnson dbugman@amug.org
Technical Security Consultants Inc
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/
What you say in private is your business.
Keeping it private is ours. (c)TSCI 1987
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15)From: "John " <XSAS@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Thunder Ranch
Larry,
I found your post very interesting. 2, 500 rounds in a 5 day program for a
civilian organisation is ok. 20 years ago when I was with 22 SAS doing CRW
training we would use about 5,000 rounds in 5 days during pistol practice with
9mm Brownings.
I would suggest that anyone who needs to be 'useful' with a pistol needs to
fire at least 2,500 rounds a week to maintain 'professional' levels. How many
of us get the chance to do that *SMILE*
Give us a look at: http://www.qpage.com/host/pba.shtml
There is also some information there for all of you surveillance 'buffs' ,
just follow the links.
Hope the convention goes well.
XSAS
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16)From: "mage2" <mage2@swbell.net>
Subject: Bug design?
Has any one thought of making a receiver/transmitter in a small box to
change the freq or increase the power.
A small receiver that receives at 156 mhz and transmits at 250 mhz
or the incoming power under 1 watt and the output more like 4 so that you
could listen from a longer range.
You could place this out side or down the street and listen to a bug father
away instead of making a larger/more complictated bug, for more range.
mage2 =X
281.Texas.USA
"Just Because Your Paranoid Doesn't Mean
They're Not After You" K.S.
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17)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: Re: Audio Processing Software
I've been using spectra plus available for demo download on the net.
I'm having good luck with it. If you can't find it on a web-search let
me know and I'll check the software for the URL
--
Trace Carpenter Investigations ******
2926 Maple Ave., Ste. 200 Friends help you move;
Dallas, Texas 75201 Real friends help you move bodies.
214.828.4520 ******
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18)From: Mutter <mutter@openix.com>
Subject: Remote Surveillance Devices & New Hacking Books
> 3)From: Frank Rieger <frank@ccc.de>
> Subject: Mobile Phones turned remote-controlled surveillance devices?
>
> The german newspaper Der Spiegel reports on a new book about the BND
> (german foreign intelligence service), citing a passage about mobile phones
> turned audio surveilance devices. The book claims, that the intelligence
> orgs are able to switch the microphone in mobile phones on to listen at
> will.
>
> I.m.o. this may be theoretically possible by some hidden features in the
> phones software.
>
> Has someone on the list heard about hard evidence on this topic? Is there
> someone analysing mobile phone software in search for such hidden features?
We would, but the cellular companies aren't being very forthcoming with
their source code :)
>> Are there known cases (maybee in the US) for such operations?
>
I certainly haven't heard of anything like this (if there was I'm sure the
ability would be made very public and result in people not buying whatever
cell phones had the implanted feature).
> The only case I know of was the usage of a _wireless phone_ for such
> purposes. It involved a forgery of the mobile set ID to use the "room
> control"-feature in the base station. The attack was detected, cause the
> victim wondered about the ever-burning TX-LED on the base-station and the
> limited useabilty of the phone. However, this is something _completly
> different_, if the claims in this book are true, we have to look at our
> mobile phones with a new perspective.
>
Eh, there are so many devices in your house which could allow people to
easily monitor your conversations. For example, the local high school
around here has answering machines in every office with a 'remote room
monitor' feature virtually unprotected. Not very security-minded
(then again, not many people are).
Beware the toaster with loose lips ...
But, if your government wanted to monitor your conversation they'd be a
bit more low-key with the method they used (throw away your cell phone but
then notice the guy with a parabolic mic aimed at your house ...)
And, I'll kill two posts with one stone ...
> 5)From: proff@suburbia.net
> Subject: New hacker book from Australia
>
> A few people will have heard me mention this book already, but I think
<clip>
> Having been on the "victim" side in the past, it is quite frustrating
> when someone you've worked to have arrested gets off with a fine. Most
> of us would agree that they should be locked up somewhere, but
> according to what's in the book, most of them are suffering from either
> problems at home or other mental disorders (including one claim in court
> to being addicted to hacking). Anyone for a "Hackers Anonymous Association"
> for help in drying out from this nefarious activity ? At least in one
heh, I'm afraid I don't share your enthusiasm for locking up all the
hackers or your other beliefs (probably from this, uhm fantastic-sounding,
hypeless book that you can buy for only $20 - what a steal!@#)
I'm sorry you worked so hard to lock one up and throw away the key only to
have him escape with a fine (if only all net users had your conviction).
I'm quite amused by your opinions surrounding this 'nefarious activity.'
The spirit of true hacking is one of exploration and knowledge -- some
ideals the internet itself was based on.
On that note, I'll conclude by saying I hope to see many list members
at BeyondHope where the spirit lives despite opinions like
the one above. This one promises to be even better than the original HOPE.
and, even though I can't be there, I wish the best of luck to SpyKing with
his conference.
"Hackers are America's most valuble resource." - SpyKing (is this quote
correct? I remember seeing it on your page, SK)
- M u t t e r
Ed. root zine
(http://www.openix.com/~mutter)
mutter@openix.com
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19)From: Alejandro Mendoza <alemendoza@usa.net>
Subject: Boxing
I´ve heard a lot about "Blue boxin´, black boxin´and etc", but in my
country (Uruguay, Sth. America) i´ve never heard about someone who really
did it (becaus our frecuencies are diferent than American frecs.).
Someone could tell me why?...If someone have an idea about how to do it
with Ericson telephone centrals or someone knows what kind of equipment is
used here.....
Thanks
Alejandro Mendoza
alemendoza@usa.net
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20)From: "Sputnik" <ufo@alien.com>
Subject: Re: What's that key?
This message is in response to Lorenzo Castillos' question concerning the
name of the key below the F-11, Backspace keys:
I am certainly no authority on the subject, however, it's been my
experience the key is known in DOS terminology as the pipe key and/or pipe
command (|), otherwise simply referred to as pipe, or the pipe.
In DOS, (something seldom referred to any more, everything these days is
graphic user interface (Windows) and, point and click), the command would
be used to implement the MORE filter for the purpose of viewing an ASCII
text file.
Example: (first be sure you are at the DOS command line or C prompt (C:\),
or whatever letter drive is available on your system),
assuming there is a text file present in the current directory that you
would like to view, at the command line (C:\), enter: type
textfile.extension | more
The DOS command TYPE allows the user to view a text file. Pipe MORE (|
more ) permits the file to be viewed a single screen at a time. To advance
the screen (scroll), to the next panel in order to view more of the file,
depress the space bar.
The DOS commands TYPE and MORE are not case sensitive, meaning they will
function in both upper and lower case. I used upper case here for
emphasis. If the pipe MORE command were omitted the text file would just
scroll continuously until it reached it's end, disabling the viewer from
reading it's content.
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21)From: Ziv Dascalu <ziv@AbirNet.com> (by way of SpyKing <6886@mne.net>)
Subject: Published: Gotcha! Monitoring tools track Web surfing at work
Hi,
An article about network activity monitoring in the workspace was just published in ComputerWorld under the title:
Gotcha! Monitoring tools track Web surfing at work.
you may find the full text on :
http://www.computerworld.com/search/AT-html/9704/970407SL14webspy.html
you can experience with this tool yourself by getting an EVALUATION COPY at
<http://www.AbirNet.com>
/Ziv
/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
| A B I R N E T Active Network Protection |
\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/
/AbirNet provides the next generation in Internet and Intranet Protection\
| AbirNet provides Windows 95 & NT-based software that let's you know |
| how your network is being used while protecting it from intrusions |
| and abuse using no-network overhead, see-it-all filtering, blocking, |
| alerting, logging, and scanning technologies. |
| |
\========== Get an EVALUATION COPY at <http://www.AbirNet.com> ===========/
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22)From: Larry Braden <Braden@rmi.net>
Subject: Need NP
To list members,
Having a unlisted telephone number I need to obtain address ( in
California ) I also have a work fax number and need to obtain name and
address of employment.
If you can assist please E-Mail privately with fees and turn around
time. Thank you ahead of time for your time and effort.
Respectfully,
Larry Braden, Senior Investigator
Montrose Investigations
Montrose, Colorado
Braden@rmi.net
http://www.angelfire.com/co/WestCoPI
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23)From: "Shadow Chasers" <shadowchasers@hotmail.com>
Subject: TSCM PC CARD ON A BUDGET!
I've been watching the various posting's in regards to PC CARD's capable
of TSCM monitoring. I found a crude; but very cheap way of
accomplishing this task for under $600 smackaroo's!!
With the aide of an ATI graphics card, and LEAP FROG; sucessfully
transmitted to my upstairs loft, without any distortion. DATASCAN it's
not, but for a tight budget it works.
SHADOW CHASER!
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Re: Need Equipment Values
02) Is it just me?
03) Telephone recording
04) Re: Bug Design
05) RE: AT&T ACCESS
06) Can you HELP, or tell who can ?
07) Join the effort to crack RC5 56-bit encryption!
08) Re: Surveillance Devices
09) Re: "EMP WEAPONS: URBAN LEGENDS MESMERIZE INFOWAR KOOKS"
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1)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Re: Need Equipment Values
>>>>
4)From: Ron Smalley <rons@ns.planet.gen.nz>
Subject: Need Equipment Values
I have to provide a value and possible origin of the following Equipment as
part of a report. The Equipment is not familiar to me, and unseen, so would appreciate any feed back.
.
AR2000 Frequency Scanner. (poss Japanese)
UZ400 Room transmitter.
UZ100 Mains Room Receiver.
U220 Mains Power Transmitter.
TX1 Room Portable Transmitter.
TX5 Room Portable Transmitter.
TD 6DX Telephone transmitter.
390730 Body Worn Transmitter. (poss Israeli )
M 66A Wall Receiver
TX Radio, Room Receiver.
N770V VOC Recorder.
<<<<
The UZ400, UZ100, U220, are manufactured by Micro Electronic Industry of Japan and operate on the following frequencies. I have found several of these things during TSCM surveys...
UHF
A 398.605 B 398.455 C 399.030
VHF
A 139.970 B 140.000 C 139.940
Micro and several others use the model number Tx1 and Tx5 for battery operated wireless microphones AND infinity transmitters. There are several Japanese receivers with the model number AR-2000. If you have .gifs of the items, send to me and I will identify model and manufacturer. I have extensive database of these devices with nomenclature.
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2)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
Subject: Is it just me?
Is it just me (because I'm so old) or is our language going by the wayside. I've noticed the following happening to many times to assume it is poor typing.
Specifically,
Your means it belongs to you -- as in your house.
You're means you are --as in You're wrong.
Your doesn't mean you are.
Try a litle harder everyone. The English language is suffering enough as it is.
Tim Johnson
Tim Johnson dbugman@amug.org
Technical Security Consultants Inc
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/
What you say in private is your business.
Keeping it private is ours. (c)TSCI 1987
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3)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Telephone recording
Some companies record all calls. QUESTION: Every 15 seconds I hear the
"beep" tone that tells me that the conversation is being recorded.
If I "choose" not to alow this conversation to be recorded do I have the
right to forfit participation in the recording of the conversation simply by
saying "I do not consent to this converstion to be recorded".
State I live in is NJ, all states may be different. Interested in mine for
now.
Ps- Is NJ a one party consent state?
E-mail also is apreciated because I don't want to miss the answer to the
question.
Augie
Badcoffee@aol.com
+++Moderator's Note+++
See http://www.thecodex.com/consent.html for a complete listing of state recording laws AND the Federal law regarding recording and eavesdropping equipment.
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4)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
Subject: Re: Bug Design
>>>>
16)From: "mage2" <mage2@swbell.net>
Subject: Bug design?
Has any one thought of making a receiver/transmitter in a small box to
change the freq or increase the power.
A small receiver that receives at 156 mhz and transmits at 250 mhz
or the incoming power under 1 watt and the output more like 4 so that you
could listen from a longer range.
You could place this out side or down the street and listen to a bug father
away instead of making a larger/more complictated bug, for more range.
mage2 =X
281.Texas.USA
"Just Because Your Paranoid Doesn't Mean
They're Not After You" K.S.
<<<<
Been there, done that.
Tim Johnson
Tim Johnson dbugman@amug.org
Technical Security Consultants Inc
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/
What you say in private is your business.
Keeping it private is ours. (c)TSCI 1987
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5)From: jaross@notes.primeco.com
Subject: RE: AT&T ACCESS
I called during the day, option 1- choose# 1, option 2- choose# 1,
option 3- choose# 1 at this point you will be checking the number on your
bill and you will have the option to have the charges deleted.
*catch you must call during business hours, I think that it routes the
calls to this option during the day to handle the overflow of calls.
Hope this helps
James
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6)From: Jay Mirsh <jmsc@cyberjunkie.com>
Subject: Can you HELP, or tell who can ?
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Do you know any FTP client that shows "hidden" directories. That is not the
UNIX ones beginning with a dot (ls -a), or those under DOS, Windows or NT,
with the attrib +h , but those somehow *really* hidden. I explain: I went to
http://www.sq.com/cgi-bin/hmf3reg.pl (after registering to download the demo
of HoTMetal Pro) and saw that I could do it clicking on
ftp://ftp4.softquad.com/pub/products/hotmetalpro/windows/eval/en/hm3ev.exe.
If I prefered the european server the URL was
ftp://ftp.softquad.co.uk/pub/products/hotmetalpro/windows/eval/en/hm3ev.exe.
What happened? Why am I asking your help? I tried to download with cuteFTP,
Ws_FTP and even with the module FTP of File Dog and under
/pub/products/hotmetalpro/windows/eval there was NO directory ./en !!!
How's this trick performed? I'm sick of registering time and again every each
time the download fails... Moreover, the servers, on cuteFTP proclaim they
are able to recover from failed sessions!... I know why they thinked this:
you can log as anonymous, for updates, but for a brand new preview, you're
obliged to let them know who the probable buyers are. That's right, but it's
boring.
And, after all, isn't it because of the *need* to know how they achieve this
that we like the gray areas?!
So, I'd be in debt if you could:
- - Point me a FTP client which was not so dull (what if I telneted to some
port?);
- - Explain, or indicating where I could learn how this is done (and, of
course, how to get around...).
TIA,
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7)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: Join the effort to crack RC5 56-bit encryption!
In the spirit of the breaking of DES 56-bit encryption, the RSA has
offered the challenge of breaking RC5 56-bit encryption.
Currently, there are two groups who accepted the RSA challenge to break
RC5 encryption. The first is Bovine. The Bovine URL is
http://rc5.distributed.net/ . The second is The RC5-56 Project. The
RC5-56 Project URL is http://www.cyberian.org/ . Both of them are using
a system of creating clients for supporters to use on their system so
that when their computers aren't being used by them, the unused
processing power is used to test possible keys to break the RC5
encryption. Bovine has clients for more operating systems, but the
RC5-56 Project has faster working clients. RSA has offered $10,000 for
whoever can break the RC5 encryption first. If you participate in
Bovine's effort and find the one key that works, you get $1000 of it and
the rest is donated to worthy causes. If you participate in the RC5-56
Project and find the one key that works, you get $5000 and the rest is
donated to worthy causes. I suggest everyone on the list check this out
and participate in one of the two efforts (unless you have a spare
teraflop around to try to get all $10,000)!
-WW
--
My ICQ UIN is 1430880.
-=WindWalker Access=- -=PeaceFire=-
http://www.dynanet.com/~wieland/ http://www.peacefire.org/
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8)From: thesaint <thesaint@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: Surveillance Devices
>14)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
>Subject: Surveillance devices
>I've been asked by an associate to querry the electronics/intelligence
>community for assistance.
>This pertains to electronic listening devices.
>Has anyone out there ever found multiple devices in the same location on
>the same sweep?
In Australia, and I guess the majority of places around the world,
professional agencies wether government or private, often place two or more
surveillance devices in one place. One very easy to find, the other more
professional and harder to find, then theres the REAL BUG which takes a lot
of time and experience to uncover, probably operates around 7 - 10 Ghz and
is a real gem to find.
In the past five years I have only found two such scenarios, but this is
Australia, no doubt it happens a lot more in the USA.
Regards
Johan Erlandsson
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9)From: "John K." <johnk@gj.net>
Subject: Re: "EMP WEAPONS: URBAN LEGENDS MESMERIZE INFOWAR KOOKS"
> TED:
> Ted I think you are mistaken. The Nerf Cannon was not aloud to be
> tested because someone from the F.C.C. was notified and told the Def-Con
> officials that they couldn't demo the EM pulse cannon.
> The guy who had the "Rail Gun", didn't get to test it either, because
> he didn't have a 15000v capacitor, plus I personally don't think the cap
> would give the "Rail Gun" enough power towards the end of the process because
> the capacitor is draining more and more as the process is running and the whole
> process is supposed to get more energy and more speed as the disc flys towards
> the end of the pvc pipe.
> Needless to say, I was at most of the convention. But I could have
> missed both demos, but then again I think I would of heard of their successful
> miracles. If I'm wrong then let me know.
>
> ThE MiLiTaNt
>
> Larkinson's Law:
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Nope Chris, you are not mistaken. The HERF/Radio Cannon had to be
shelved by someone basicly informing the authorities. Which really blew
my Friday since I drove over 8 hours and got a speeding ticket so I
would make it to Vegas in time that demo. Plus Ming did give a speech
on his rail gun but explained he currently does not have the power
supply ready for an actual demo.
The REAL highlight of the Convention was a seminar given by Mudge and
Hobbit explaining how they have broken the security used for MS NT4
servers. It was amazing, very articulate, well educated, in fact if you
overlooked the longer hair and the fact Hobbit was wearing Tie Dye and
no shoes you would think these Gentleman to be well paid team managers
of Technical teams (of course, thinking about most of the better Techies
I know they look kind of the same as Hobbit, hmm.... Maybe I need to
grow the hair out again. :) ).
Anyone interested check out: http://www.l0pht.com
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01) Re: New hacker book from Australia
02) Re: multiple devices
03) Re: Need Equipment Values...
04) Improving the Range on a Cordless Phone
05) Trace a call?
06) Caller ID Cloaking
07) Re: FTP client that shows "hidden" directories.
08) Is it just me? Grammar Police
09) (too) many times
10) Non-US Background check
11) Re: Can you HELP, or tell who can ?
12) I have recieved my first employee theft case
13) Federal training?
14) IRC channels and Spy shops
15) EMP Strikes ;)
16) PBA
17) FLETC web site?
18) Destroy the info on our computer?
19) "The Professional Investigator Newsletter"
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1)From: Murple <btherl@nullnet.net>
Subject: Re: New hacker book from Australia
> > 5)From: proff@suburbia.net
> >
> > Having been on the "victim" side in the past, it is quite frustrating
> > when someone you've worked to have arrested gets off with a fine. Most
> > of us would agree that they should be locked up somewhere, but
> > according to what's in the book, most of them are suffering from either
> > problems at home or other mental disorders (including one claim in court
> > to being addicted to hacking). Anyone for a "Hackers Anonymous Association"
> > for help in drying out from this nefarious activity ? At least in one
Mutter wrote:
> heh, I'm afraid I don't share your enthusiasm for locking up all the
> hackers or your other beliefs (probably from this, uhm fantastic-sounding,
> hypeless book that you can buy for only $20 - what a steal!@#)
Actually, the book is very good, very accurate, and very much on the hackers'
side. Also, it follows the hackers' lives, making for an interesting contrast
with books like Cuckoo's Egg, and Takedown (about Mitnick, haven't read it
yet).
It brings up some interesting issues, for example Anthrax's allegations that
the Australian Federal Police threatened to prosecute his mother if he did not
admit to what he had done, the AFP's inability to trace certain phone calls,
and something which interests me particularly, what is that '-u' process?
Take a look at the web page http://www.underground-book.com, and then make up
your mind about it.
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2)From: Ron Smalley <rons@ns.planet.gen.nz>
Subject: Re: multiple devices
>From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
>Subject: Surveillance devices
>I've been asked by an associate to querry the electronics/intelligence
>community for assistance.
>Has anyone out there ever found multiple devices in the same location >on
?the same sweep?
I have been associated with this business for over 25 years, Working from
UK, some jobs on the Continent and Australia. Now new Zealand. I have never
found multiple devices, but some evidence of a very occasional "one
other", cheaper device, possibly as a backup or diversion. If you find one
of these, in a corperate situation, then its a signal to really start
looking.!.
However, in NZ, calls for this work is too often of the "closing the
stable door" variety .
More often evidence of removed devices than an active system still in place.
During the crash of rthe eighties we picked up devices nearly every night
working, " In other premises" and became cynicle about where we would be
called to next month ..... after the device was removed.
Rgds Ron Smalley.
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3)From: Ron Smalley <rons@ns.planet.gen.nz>
Subject: Re: Need Equipment Values...
>From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
>Subject: Re: Need Equipment Values.
Thank you folks for the costings and useful, additional info on those
products. It enabled the completion of a report relating to an exagerated
insurance claim. The frequencies noted for " recheck" points during sweeps.
Kind regards to all list members.
Ron Smalley.
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4)From: lazlo@shadowlink.net
Subject: Improving the Range on a Cordless Phone
I posted earlier regarding list members opinion on purchasing a cordless
phone. Now I have the fone, (Panasonic 900MHz Digital) and a new
question: I was talking to an electrician friend about improving the
range of the fone. Right now, the max range is about a block. He said
I could improve the range to a half mile by attaching it to an antenna
mounted on my roof. Does anyone know a good procedure for improving the
range on a cordless phone? Maybe one that does not involve voiding the
warranty. My goal is to have a phone that I can carry around campus,
and not be paying for cellular.
-Lazlo
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5)From: "S.Benson" <firstcause@mindspring.com>
Subject: Trace a call?
Does anyone know how I can trace a call made to my number when it
appears to be coming from a cellular phone or a group of numbers on a
large system (like a business or university would have)???
I receive daily hang-up calls from a number noted as "out of area" on
my caller ID and the phone company informed me that they would not be
able to trace the number.
Just curious, as I am sick of receiving these calls.
Sue
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6)From: Zurich <Zurich@SkyPoint.Com>
Subject: Caller ID Cloaking
Question: Caller ID is an obvious intrusion of privacy.
Therefore, is there a technical way, perhaps
building some device to be installed on the phone
line, which will cloak a given phone line and number
completely from the Caller ID system, as if the
line and number never existed?
I would be most interested in such technology.
Thanking you in advance.....
Curt
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7)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: Re: FTP client that shows "hidden" directories.
> Do you know any FTP client that shows "hidden" directories. That is not the
> UNIX ones beginning with a dot (ls -a), or those under DOS, Windows or NT,
> with the attrib +h , but those somehow *really* hidden.
I believe that "Warez! FTP" a.k.a. "WZ_FTP" does exactly what you're
asking. It's available on my site at
http://www.dynanet.com/~wieland/ww-filez.htm . It's basically a generic
WS_FTP that shows "hidden" directories if you choose "Warez! Server"
(not Auto-Detect), but has a problem with mass downloads. (You have to
type in the name of the file to download, clicking on the file and
hitting the download arrow causes an error and doesn't work.) Anyway,
atleast it shows the hidden directories. Sometimes, if I'm allowed
multiple connections, I'll use WZ_FTP to find directories & CuteFTP to
download. Let me know if it works for you.
-WW
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8)From: Greg Caldwell <caldwell@nvi.net>
Subject: Is it just me? Grammar Police
> Is it just me (because I'm so old) or is our language going by the
>
> wayside. I've noticed the following happening to many times to
>
> assume it is poor typing.
>
<snip>
<to> (as in to many times) is not <too>
Sorry, Tim. I just couldn't resist.
--
Gregory J. Caldwell, VSM - ISC - The Caldwell Group
Corporate Investigations & Security Management
Member: ASIS, INTELNET & The Vidocq Society
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9)From: Martin Pask <100142.3101@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: (too) many times
I've noticed the following happening to (too) many times to assume it is poor
typing.
Specifically,
Maybe we should all try a little harder;-)
MPI
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10)From: "Mike R." <mike@promise.com>
Subject: Non-US Background check
Is there a way where I can find information about people who are not from the United States? Is it possible to do a background check on people through the internet? If anyone can help it will be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Mike
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11)From: Murple <btherl@nullnet.net>
Subject: Re: Can you HELP, or tell who can ?
> 6)From: Jay Mirsh <jmsc@cyberjunkie.com>
>ftp://ftp.softquad.co.uk/pub/products/hotmetalpro/windows/eval/en/hm3ev.exe.
>
> What happened? Why am I asking your help? I tried to download with cuteFTP,
> Ws_FTP and even with the module FTP of File Dog and under
> /pub/products/hotmetalpro/windows/eval there was NO directory ./en !!!
All this is is that the directory eval does not allow reading. You can cd
into it, but you cannot list what files are inside it. To get around this,
quote the command 'CWD en' once you are in the eval directory, or set the
directory absolutely to /pub/products/hotmetalpro/windows/eval/en
Unfortunately, you need to know the directory you want to change to, but you
do not need to follow the link on the webpage to get there. Or you could
simply use http://www.thecodex.com/warez.html to find a warez version, avoiding
this completely :)
> How's this trick performed? I'm sick of registering time and again every each
> time the download fails... Moreover, the servers, on cuteFTP proclaim they
> are able to recover from failed sessions!... I know why they thinked this:
There's some command to restart unfinished downloads.. I don't know what it is,
I just use ncftp (improved unix ftp client) with the -C option, which does the
restarting for me :) The actualy command to do it is 'REST <bytecount>',
where bytecount is the location you want to restart the transfer at, you'll
need to send that command directly to the ftp server.
Ikkles
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12)From: TLSERV2@aol.com
Subject: I have recieved my first employee theft case
Good Day All! I am a new member to the list and a licensed, bonded and
insured private detective in my Commonwealth.
I have recieved my first employee theft case. The client has asked that I
install a covert camera system that will record continuiously for 24 hours.
The employee comes and goes as he pleases, he has a key.
Because this is my first such case, I was hoping that the members of this
list could give me some direction on which is the best camera to use, what
components I will need, etc. (I get to keep the equiptment in lieu of
payment)
By the layout of the office, and taking into consideration where the money is
being pilferred from, it would appear that the best vantage point for setting
up the camera would be the ceiling.
Also, does anyone know where I can get Blue Powder to dust the bills prior to
placing them in the bait pack?
I thank you for your time and consideration.
"T"
Tina Onassis-Michaelides
Gardner & Onassis, Licensed Private Detectives, Inc.
P.O. 1447
Media, PA 19063
610-789-9760 - Phone
610-565-3848 - Fax
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13)From: Klint Bailey <kbailey@hilconet.com>
Subject: Federal training?
DEAR RESPECTFUL MEMBERS;
I AM INQUIRING ON SOME OF THE TRAINING AND SCHOOL CLASSES THAT FEDERAL AGENTS MUST TAKE AND DO, AND IF THEY HAVE TO PASS SOME SORT OF PHYSICAL TEST. AND ALSO I WAS WONDERING IF THE ATF AGENTS HAVE TO DO THE SAME, AND WHAT ARE SOME GOOD CLASSES TO TAKE TO BECOME A BOMB TECH. I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU READING THIS ARE IN EITHER OF THESE AGENCIES, SO PLEASE HELP ME OUT.
THANKS A LOT,
kbailey@hilconet.com
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14)From: Brian Eberle <pamowx@voicenet.com>
Subject: IRC channels and Spy shops
Hello,
Does anyone know of any good surveillance, spy, etc topic channels on
IRC? I went and looked the other day but its a real pain to have to
look through thousands of channels and after a few hundred they all
start to look the same. Also does anyone know of any "spy" shops in the
Philadelphia area. I have found a few good shops on line that sell good
surveillance stuff but I cxant find any physical shops in the
Philadelphia region that I can goto and shop at. Buying off the net has
its advantages but sometime you just wanna be able to hold something in
your hand and check it out before you buy it. Any information would be
a great help!
Thanks
Brian
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15)From: gaugusti@hqgbcs.attmail.com (Grant Augustine x4058)
Subject: EMP Strikes ;)
Maybe they couldn't demo the EMP gun in Las Vegas, but a report in RISKS
Digest reads:
>From Henry Spencer's *AVWeek&Space* digest on USENET
Space news from April 21 *AW&ST*:
Strong signal jamming the S-band downlink at the new control center
for the Lewis satellite traced to faulty car alarm (!).
I liked the imagery, young dude rips off the Camaro, WHAM, suddenly
half of the narrowcasting for New Jersey dies...
George Michaelson
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16)From: bennett2@iquest.net
Subject: PBA
John-XSAS,
I checked out the PBA Web Page and thought it looked interesting.
I am curious about four things.
1. What background one must have to get in the program
including firearms and martial arts?
2. What portion of the 10 day class is devoted to firearms including
how much will one get to shoot and of what weapons?
3. What portion of the 10 day class is devoted to hand to hand defensive
tactics including bladed weapons?
4. What is your training schedule for the next six months?
Thank you.
Larry
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17)From: "Timothy F. Poole, Jr." <wdc2@wdc2.com>
Subject: FLETC web site?
Can anyone advise of a web site for the Federal Law Enforcement Training
Center? Specifically, I am trying to get information on the training
curriculum for the U.S. Marshalls service, to include the standards and
course of fire used to train new Deputy Marshalls at their weapons range.
Thanks!
Timothy Poole
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18)From: Randy Prefer <mackie@rmi.net>
Subject: Destroy the info on our computer?
I am sure that all of us at one time or another needed to destroy the
info on our computer, as fast as possible, without anyone noticing, or
detecting.
What is the fastest, cleanest and "not detectable" way to accomplish
this?
I was thinking about destroying the boot sector, but I don't know how to
do it without a utility program. A batch file with an "echo off" first
line I think would do, but I'm looking for some real effective help.
Maybe I could even attach it to e-mail as a self executable, and All I
would need to do is "read my mail"!
With all the readers, I am sure that someone knows. Also, where does one
obtain a real "virus"? One which I could download to a floppy and send
"as needed"?
Thanks, this has been a great source of new and interesting thoughts.
PS- For those of you who are on the good guy team...... I am also the
developer of the new "SmartID DNA Security System" for the internet AND
can also be used at public places. The only system which proves "Flesh &
Bones" are at the computer, at both ends, from the beginning, through
the middle, and at the end of all transactions, financial and otherwise.
I'm currently looking for Strategic Partners for Funding, Business &
Sales/Mkting. Contact me if interested.
Randyp@usa.net
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Vol.Two Issue #161 The Surveillance List July 21,1997
Over 2500+ Members Worldwide
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Mind control combined with miniture listening devices
02) Re: Caller ID Cloaking
03) Re: Improving the Range on a Cordless Phone
04) Re: PBA
05) 128 bit encrypted browser setup problems& solution
06) Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
07) Ming's EM Rail Gun @ DefCon
08) Ming's Railgun, etc...
09) Re: PGP 5.0
10) Covert Video Cams Detection and Electronic Self-defense
11) Re: First employee theft case
12) Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
13) Garbage
14) Re: Improving the range on a cordless phone
15) Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
16) New Codes for Xplorer?
17) Identity Crisis
18) Re: Destroy info on your computer
19) Re: Caller ID
20) Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
21) Humorous Article
22) Re: scanners
23) Satellite-Aided Location Service
24) SPRINT TELCO & MONITORING
25) Dealt with CCS?
26) Badcoffee has left the building...
27) Filtering modem noise
28) Re: FLETC web site?
29) Ramblings
30) Re: New hacker book from Australia
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1)From: Steve Lee <stevealee@earthlink.net>
Subject: Mind control combined with miniture listening devices
My name is S. Lee and I would like to know if anybody ouy there knows
anything about Mind control combined with miniture listening devices and
transmitters? I also have some strange photos of things that I would
like to if anybody knows what theyc are. My email address is
stevealee@earthlink.net
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2)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: Re: Caller ID Cloaking
> Question: Caller ID is an obvious intrusion of privacy.
>
> Therefore, is there a technical way, perhaps
> building some device to be installed on the phone
> line, which will cloak a given phone line and number
> completely from the Caller ID system, as if the
> line and number never existed?
>
> I would be most interested in such technology.
>
> Thanking you in advance.....
>
> Curt
Answer: There's a number you can enter before you call the actual
number,
that blocks Caller ID. I think it's *63 where I am. Check public
phones. They usually post it along with all of that info about
using calling cards, etc. Also, I think Radio Shack sells a
device that go in between your phone and the jack that blocks
Caller ID for every phone call. It's costs about $30, I think.
-WW
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3)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Improving the Range on a Cordless Phone
> I posted earlier regarding list members opinion on purchasing a cordless
> phone. Now I have the fone, (Panasonic 900MHz Digital) and a new
> question: I was talking to an electrician friend about improving the
> range of the fone. Right now, the max range is about a block. He said
> I could improve the range to a half mile by attaching it to an antenna
> mounted on my roof. Does anyone know a good procedure for improving the
> range on a cordless phone? Maybe one that does not involve voiding the
> warranty. My goal is to have a phone that I can carry around campus,
> and not be paying for cellular.
Do what your friend says, attach it to an antenna mounted on your roof.
Low-loss coax would be a good idea, like RG-8. The length of a
quarter-wave antenna element (in inches) can be found by taking 2834
divided by the operating frequency of your phone. You can pick up the
coax at Radio Shack and construct the antenna out of a coat hanger. The
less coax the better, and the higher the antenna the better.
CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
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4)From: "John " <XSAS@msn.com>
Subject: Re: PBA
Larry,
Send your Full postal address to us at xsas@msn.com
and I will send you our course Prospectus via AIRMAIL ........ that goes for
anyone else who is SERIOUSLY interested in Bodyguarding. Please dont waste our
time as Airmail is expensive from the UK. Alternatively, and PREFARABLY send a
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Your questions should be answered in our literature.
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XSAS
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5)From: sonnymac@worldnet.att.net (Bill Mcdonald)
Subject: 128 bit encrypted browser setup problems& solution
To the group:
Recently I downloaded the Internet Explorer version 3.02 with 128 bit
encryption. I could not get it installed due to an unrecognized file
name or type to Windows 95. The file name when you d/l the browser
only is : nph-iefinal.pl. The public Microsoft newsgroups have many
posts from people with the same problem.Note I already had IE3.02
regular version.
Anyway for the solution:
In WIn 95 explorer I rightclicked properties for the file and saw that
the internal and company names were the same: msie30.exe. I renamed
the file,ran the new .exe file
and then did a reboot. I got back on the net to the Internet Explorer
homepage and it said I needed to d/l the Authenticode 2.0
update(which I had done previously). I did so and then surfed over to
Wells Fargo Bank and took their browser test, which verified I had the
128 bit version. Their web sight is at:
http://wellsfargo.com/per/online/browser/
If you need security for your net matters, I suggest you take their
browser test, you may get a surprise.
Bill Mcdonald
sonnymac@worldnet.att.net
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6)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
> I am sure that all of us at one time or another needed to destroy the
> info on our computer, as fast as possible, without anyone noticing, or
> detecting.
> What is the fastest, cleanest and "not detectable" way to accomplish
> this?
Go to The Store of Knowledge (one of those PBS stores) and buy this
thing that lets you spin a magnetic top in the air, I think it's called
a magnetron or gravitron. Or, just buy a REALLY powerful magnet (the
magnetron/gravitron has one in it, in an unsuspecting plastic case).
Then just run the magnet really close the the hard drive (right against
the computer case). You should be able to erase the hard drive (and
maybe make it unusable again) in a second.
If you could find one of those Electromagnetic Pulse Cannons (which do
exist and work dangerously well), I think there's a handgun version you
could use.
Another alternative would be, as you mentioned, a virus. Because
viruses are written in Assembler, they can be quick and efficient. The
best place I know of to get viruses is the Chiba City Virus Research
Center. The URL is http://www.chibacity.com/chiba/vrc.html . An
executed virus could trash a hard drive in a few minutes.
Also, you could just reformat your hard drive using the unrecovery
switch, but that can take awhile.
Don't do anything I wouldn't do. ;)
-WW
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7)From: andrewa@indirect.com
Subject: Ming's EM Rail Gun @ DefCon
This is my first post here - Militant sent me...
Anyhow, I was at DefCon, and spoke with Ming for a little while on his
rail gun, and after looking at it, and his theory, well...
I can admire the guy for experimenting - his method for his rail gun is
different from the common method I have seen used.
I feel that what he is doing is VERY dangerous - but hey, it's his life.
I mean, playing around with 10000 Volt caps can get you killed in a
hurry...
I don't know what he is going to use to charge these things (he may have
mentioned this @ defcon, I came in at the end of his talk) - I do know
that his beer bottle capacitors aren't the best design - and from what I
know, Tesla DID NOT use similar devices. Leyden Jars, yes - but Tesla's
electrolic caps looked much different. I would suggest that Ming build
oil caps using a watertight acrylic box (1/2 inch sheet) and steel
plates, all immersed in motor oil:
+ ----| | | | | |----- -
X~|~|~|~|~|~|~X
X~|~|~|~|~|~|~X X = Acrylic box
X~|~|~|~|~|~|~X ~ = Oil
X~|~|~|~|~|~|~X + = positive terminal
X~~~~~~~~~~~~~X - = negative terminal
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
The plates are interleaved like so (from above):
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
+ ------|-|-|-|-|-|~X
X~|||||||||||~X
X~|||||||||||~X
X~|||||||||||~X
X~|||||||||||~X
X~||||||||||~~X
X~~|-|-|-|-|------- -
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
I know my ascii art sucks - anyhow, this thing should be about a 2-3
cubic foot...
Even if Ming used beer bottles, while his device would be hand held, it
would not be extremely portable...
I would also think tha 10000 volts would arc across the aluminum guide
rails.
His graphite disk would probably melt before it started moving (think
about this experiment: how long would a pencil last if a length of the
lead were connected to a 110V outlet). Graphite is conductive,
unfortunately, it is also makes a great resistor. And resistors heat up
- quickly...
So, if Ming doesn't kill himselfby electrocution, his gun will almost
certainly melt in his hands as it fires...
Ming - if you see this - prove me wrong! I would desperatly love to see
your scheme work, due to it's inherent simplicity! Anyhow, I thank you
for inspiring me to pursue my own pursuits in this field - taking a more
conventional approach...
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8)From: andrewa@indirect.com
Subject: Ming's Railgun, etc...
I have done some research (probably should have done that in the first
place) - and I have found out more about railguns. Number one (I get the
"foot in the mouth" prize) - Railguns do exist and work, based on a
principle called Lorentz Force... BUT - the rails can collapse, they
require a huge capacitor bank, etc. Anyone have any more info. Also,
check out info on coil guns...
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9)From: thesaint <thesaint@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: PGP 5.0
Hi everyone,
While in New York for the SLF seminar, I'd like to pick up a copy of PGP 5.0
on CD or disk.
Can anyone tell me where in NYC I can get a hold of it.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Johan Erlandsson
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10)From: "Lorenzo Castillo Sanchez" <espaniola@hotmail.com>
Subject: Covert Video Cams Detection and Electronic Self-defense
It seems that there are a lot of perverts installing pinhole-cams
in the ladies' room where I live. Though the building security
management claims to have installed the cams for theft prevention
purposes, there wasn't a single incident of theft in that building !!
Another funny thing was that there wasn't any cams installed in the
men's room ! Yeah, just imagine this perp getting horny over your
wife or your girlfriend. Speaking of this particular word, I remeber
one the Jay Leno shows I watched. There was this joke about VIPs
joining some organizations. Guess what organization
Bill Clinton joined ? H.O.R.N.Y.(Highest Office Really Needs You)
Anyway, I am aware that those type of "peeping Tom" cams are
located in the ceiling or in the corner of the ceiling as elevated
positions offer a better view. What I need to know is the frequency
ranges of those pinhole cams with cables attached to it. There are
wireless pinhole cams with transmitters emitting frequencies in the
2.3+ Ghz range, but would the 3khz - 500 khz range detect hidden
cams with cables attached ?? I'd also like to know if the frequency
range for metal detectors is between the 15 khz - 300 khz range.
I think it'd be some nosy people around you who are more likely
to snoop on to you. Of course, in some cases, you will be monitored
by the government but they don't install cams in every ladies' room.
BUT you never know~
So, I was thinking if there is a way to create a miniature HERF
gun of some sort that jus' fries up those pinhole cams within
your vicinty. If there is a mini-HERF gun that would fry up those
sneaky prying eyes somewhere up in the ceiling then it should be
the next 21st century self-defense weapon. Of course, we should carry
Tasers and pepper sprays just in case we come across a hostile who
wants to degrade us by pillage and rape. But, we should also be
concerned with another form of assault committed. I call this privacy
invasion. We should all learn TSCM as long as we are living in the Era
of Electronics - the 21st century.
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11)From: Jean-Pierre Forest <jpforest@uniserve.com>
Subject: Re: First employee theft case
I guess I should start with Congratulation on your first(case of beer) case.
From the information you gave us, the ceiling is a good place for a camera it appears to be a simple installation.
First you must decide if you want to purchase a pinhole CCD board camera(very small)(9-12V DC) or if you want to purchase a CCD camera(24VAC or 110VAC or 12VDC) with a C-mount pinhole lens(manual or auto iris). Panasonic and Sanyo makes good 1\3" CCD color cameras that are affordable, lens vary in price taking the focal length into consideration. Board cameras are cheaper, however the lack of flexibility in lens selection makes it a less likely choice. If the ceiling is a drop type ceiling and the building already has sprinkler heads in the tiles, there is an adapter which is exactly like a Sprinkler head except it has a small mirror where the camera lens looks into from above the ceiling.
If your suspected area is not normally occupied after hours, you may want to have a VMD(Video Motion Detector) activate your time lapse recorder to real time recording(2hr) when motion is detected. This will give you (using NTSC cameras) 60 fields or 30 frames per second. On average if you are recording at the 24 hr mode you will get 5 frames per second. AD(American Dynamics) makes several types of VMD and they are pretty user friendly.
There are several types of time lapse recorders(TLR) out there, I wouldn't suggest buying a cheap model, it is one investment that you will use in different application in the future so buy a good one to start with. I 've got several Panasonic and Sanyo and Burle TLR, they all have the ability to record up to 960 hrs with several alarm inputs.
Also if your suspect is stealing from a cash register, there are interface available which superimposes the items purchases over the image of the camera. For example this is helpful when a suspected employee makes a sale and doesn't enter the sale on the register or makes a single entry for multiple items in order to skim.
Last but not least, if your going to make a major investment into good cameras and recording equipment DO NOT go to the local drug store to buy cheap VHS tapes. Time lapse recorders operates 24hrs a day 7 days a week which means the recording heads are constantly rotating against the tape which on time lapse mode moves very slowly across the heads. If your using regular tapes which are meant for your home VCR they will wear out and deteriorate to the point where it will create abrasion on the recording heads and subsequently shortening it's usefulness. There are tapes which are double coated and designed specifically for Time lapse Recorders. BASF makes the Security Master which has been working great for our firm, Video Trak also makes TLR tapes. I would also recommend T-120 instead of longer T-160 & T-200 the reason being is that the longer the tape is, the thinner it is. Hope this helps, if you need additional info you can e-mail me privately or through the list.
Blue Skies
J.P.
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12)From: phreaker@technologist.com
Subject: Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
I cannot believe that anyone would condone and/or want to use a virus
(unless under exceptional national security conditions and even then
probably not).
TO: "Randy Prefer <mackie@rmi.net>":
The use of a virus is analogous to use of weapons of mass destruction.
They are far too dangerous to play around with. It is one of the few
crimes for which I advocate summary execution (and I am not alone in my
view). If you ever use a virus, I pray you get caught and go to jail
for a long time.
I have no problem with a program that will destroy all the data on a
computer and which is triggered either intentionally by the computer
operator or triggered by a particular sequence or lack of a particular
sequence. This is not a virus but the computer equivalent of the old
style bookie using flashpaper to destroy the evidence.
P
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13)From: MikeRowley@aol.com
Subject: Garbage
Is there anyway you could reduce the amount of garbage in the list you send
out... examples include someone complaining about the proper use of the English
language. Excuse me but this isn't an educational site.
Also there are a large number of headers and *********** mixxed troughout.
Just an idea
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14)From: John Boyd <jboyd@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Improving the range on a cordless phone
At 08:25 PM 7/18/97 -0400, lazlo@shadowlink.net wrote:
> I was talking to an electrician friend about improving the
>range of the fone. Right now, the max range is about a block. He said
>I could improve the range to a half mile by attaching it to an antenna
>mounted on my roof. Does anyone know a good procedure for improving the
>range on a cordless phone? Maybe one that does not involve voiding the
>warranty.
He already answered your question, and it doesn't void the warranty. Go to
an electronics store that sells a wide variety of telephone accessories,
and there you'll probably see it. It looks like a standard ground plane
design, except that it's much shorter, of course because of the higher
frequency range, and connects by some manner of coax back to an antenna
port on your phone base.
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15)From: Ben Norman <bnorman@kent.edu>
Subject: Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
Randy Prefer wrote:
> I am sure that all of us at one time or another needed to destroy the
> info on our computer, as fast as possible, without anyone noticing, or
> detecting. What is the fastest, cleanest and "not detectable" way to
> accomplish this?
Well, erasing the boot sector isn't a bad start, but anyone with some
time and lucky guessing will be able to recreate that, expecially if
your partition info was simple.
A low-level format is probably best. This should write 0's to every
bit of storage space on the hard disk. As you say, there are several
utility programs which can accomplish this. And, if I remember
correctly, (someone help me so I don't look like a total idiot) on PCs,
you can send a specific interrupt signal to the hard drive which will
start a low-level format (int 13H?) I don't know how likely windows95
is to let you do that, though. I know it intercepts some things (like
the i/o space related to parallel ports) when you pull up a DOS box.
If you're REALLY in a bind, (Men in black masks with MP-5's at the door
;) I heard a story about someone who found a really fast way to purge
his hard drive. I haven't bothered to do the math on this yet, so I'll
present it as a myth and nobody should jump down my throat because of
technical inaccuracy. Anyway, this gentleman wrapped a few hundred
turns of 10? guage wire around his hard drive and hooked it up to 110
VAC when 'the time' came. In theory, BIG magnetic field inside the
coil. Probably blow out your circuit breaker very quickly, too.
Obviously, this is not for casual use.
Ben
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Kent State University | after truth, you must at least
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16)From: Dick Milligan <k5rcg@olypen.com>
Subject: New Codes for Xplorer?
Help, with the Optoelectronics Xplorer. Apparently the company has
changed the unlock codes.
Having tried the ones listed in Monitoring Times. And I receive the
proper response, (FE FE EO BO FA FD) however. the unlock does not take
affect. I would appreciate hearing from anyone having the new ones.
Thanks,
Dick
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17)From: John Doe <johndoe@nym.alias.net>
Subject: Identity Crisis
I have a potentially serious issue confronting me. I am 37 years old, a son of illegal immigrants (they are still illegal [for a very good reason I will not go into here] and living in the U.S.) I have been self-employed or at least self-sustaining all of my life after leaving home at 19, mostly as a street vendor or in other otherwise legitimate cash businesses. I was born in the U.S., but not in a hospital. My parents feared exposure as a result of my birth, so it was done very discreetly, and there is no record of it. It has not been an easy course for me, and it is about to get much worse. A situation must be confronted within a few months, and though I have searched diligently for other means (even hired an attorney), I have no other way to solve this problem, except to present a certified copy of a birth certificate or other identity document of similar legal weight (such as a driver's license, which it seems I need a birth certificate to obtain).
What are my options as far as obtaining useful identity documents without disclosing the name or whereabouts of my parents and other family members? I am not illegal myself, and have not had any legal troubles to-date, but I do not wish to endanger my family by bringing them into this. The birth documents do not have to be of U.S. origin, but that would be best (since I would have to explain how it is that I happen to be living here), and they must be verifiable.
I should mention that I have the appearance of a white-American, and speak perfect English. My physical condition is good, and I have been exposed to military-style training in weapons and survival within the last decade. I have studied and constructed component-level electronic circuits, have some minimal chemistry knowledge, and know some computer programming (but not how to hack systems, mostly because I have no interest in doing so).
I have very little money (one does not achieve wealth living as I do), so I do not expect much from anyone. However, I am very confident, and not afraid to attempt this task, whatever it takes (my preference is for a legal solution, but I will consider other options, as the well-being of my immediate family may be at stake). I feel that with the proper knowledge, this will be possible. If you have actually done this before for yourself or others, please relay your experiences. Obviously, that would have to be done anonymously, and I suggest you check out www.replay.com for a web-based anonymous e-mail service, or use Private Idaho to gain access to the nym servers and remailers as I have done.
If you wish to contact me privately, please e-mail johndoe@nym.alias.net. I have a very long reply-block that results in your message being remailed across many nations and jurisdictions, so if it makes it at all, it will probably take at least a day, probably more. I acknowledge ALL messages, so if you don't hear back from me, please re-send the message.
Please, anything you can offer in the way of constructive advice will be most appreciated.
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18)From: Marcus Blankenship <MarcusB@JELD-WEN.com>
Subject: Re: Destroy info on your computer
I have heard it said, that nothing on the HD can ever be truely
distroyed. Regardless of deleting or writing over, retrieval of 99% of
all the data _ever_ stored on the HD is possible. This is a
wetware/hardware process, not a software one.
If you want it secret, encrypt it.
Marcus Blankenship Jeld-Wen, Inc
Application Developer 541-882-3451
marcusb@jeld-wen.com www.jeld-wen.com
It worked a minute ago....
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19)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID
RE: Question: Caller ID is an obvious intrusion of privacy
>>>>> Is there a technical way, perhaps
building some device to be installed on the phone
line, which will cloak a given phone line and number
completely from the Caller ID system, as if the
line and number never existed?<<<<<<<<<<
Curt,
Not specifically what you asked for but..........
Caller Id Block, available through phone company. Show up at other end as
"anonomous".
You also have the option to block any call that comes in under
"anonomous"..thus saying "If i don't know who you are......my phone won't
even ring".
Your Telco can certainley assist.
Note: Still looking to Identify this lock.... (can be view at)
http://members.aol.com/BADCOFFEE/wwlock.html
Any takers on this thing???
Intermediate Lockpick tips of the day..........
Tip #1- Try a nice stiff torque wrench with NO spring to it. Contol is the
key.
Tip #2- If you have a real rake.......pull a heavy sawing action with
light/minimal torque. Sometimes the vibration from the "sawing" in and out
gets the job done.
Tip #3- Forget the romance of picking.....if you can Rake it open....do it.
Picking is great.....but you'de have to be real good to pin by pin pick
open...at the speed of raking. Definately LEARN to pick pin by pin. That is
the ultimate backup that is foolproof....but very difficult.
Augie
Sorry for the slow down on posts, Im stumbling heavilly on Combo's. Got
nothing new to report.
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20)From: "karl kiefert" <karl@kiefert.force9.net>
Subject: Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
Randy,
Get a good magnet - I have one from a microwave unit (magnatron) - and
waving it a foot away from the hdd will cause errors to appear!
An electro-magnet, like bulk video tape eraser will do nicely too. Some
phone exchanges emit lots of magnetism.
In the old days of APPLE II's, the monitor emited a magnetic field the was
powerful enough that if the metal cover of the fdd was removed and placed
next to or below the monitor, it would not read the disk/give errors.
It is very hard to find the cause as it looks like the hdd is failing.
If someone wished to cause havoc, then a few coats of clear nail varnish
over the tape backup heads beforehand should keep the system out of date,
should the server crash. If someone whishes to prevent havoc, Then regular
restores of tapes should be performed (hopefully with a different tape
backup unit) to check that (a)the tape/unit functions, (b)all the files are
there & (c) the files are of the same size and error free.
Loosen some of the screws on the hdd, where the platters are and add in
some Aluminium Oxide (abrasive powder). Remove the anti-tamper label, if
you must, and clean off the glue or else it becomes really obvious.
Go into cmos, change the hdd settings and fdisk it. Now reboot and change
the cmos settings back to ther origional ones.
There is a program called sweep which goes recursively through dirs and
performs its function. i.e from c:\
SWEEP del *.*
should delete most of the files on the c: drive if you know how to pipe the
Y to it and the ouput to nul.
Most hdd's have an air breather "hole" which is covered by a filtre through
which liquid can seep.
To destroy data fast, use a removable drive unit. This is a draw into which
a hdd is placed. This then slides into the computer. To remove it, give a
tug on the handle and out it pops. Get a ball hammer or firemans axe
(pointed bit) and give it a few heavy blows directly on the top so that it
goes through the platters.
Most, if not all virii can be detected, stopped and/or cleaned. The most
prolific kinds are the ones which do little damage, if any, go un-noticed
and therefore have time to spread.
A boot sector is like an index of a book. If the index is ripped out, the
book is still readable - it just takes longer!.
At work, we use the hammer method on our hdd's.
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21)From: Luna Chiu <chiulh@me.udel.edu>
Subject: Humorous Article
Found this in The Dallas Morning News..
Dead ringers
Slew of historic names left on Caller ID box has woman mystified
07/19/97
By Berta Delgado / The Dallas Morning News
Talk about wrong numbers.
Sharon Chatman's Caller ID box showed 25 of them Friday morning. Mostly
from ex-presidents. Most of them long dead.
"I looked at the area codes first and didn't know why people in those
areas would be calling me," the Dallas woman said. "Then I looked at the
names and thought, 'This is very weird.' "
Mrs. Chatman apparently missed calls overnight from Abraham Lincoln in
Madison, Wis., and George Washington in Milwaukee. Founding father Ben
Franklin also rang in, it seems, from the Trenton, N.J., area. None was
able to leave a message.
That's because Mrs. Chatman and her husband, Frederick, unplugged their
telephone Thursday night, just as they do every night. When Mrs. Chatman
plugged it back in Friday morning, she found the Caller ID box jammed
with numbers from people trying to reach way out and touch someone.
After noticing Ronald Reagan's name and number, (916) 555-4602, she picked
up the phone to call him. "He was the first one I dialed, since I know
he's still living," she said.
She reached a recording saying her call couldn't be completed as dialed,
then got the same recording for the other numbers, all of which had a 555
prefix.
Phone company officials can't say for certain why the Chatmans' number is
so popular among dead historical figures.
Carlos de Leon, spokesman for Southwestern Bell, said the boxes will show
bogus numbers when first purchased or unplugged.
"It's sort of like when you buy a new stereo and you have stations already
programmed in there to show you what it looks like," he said. "That's sort
of the standard, to see names of presidents and numbers that don't mean
anything."
But Mrs. Chatman said her box is 3 years old and wasn't unplugged - only
the telephone was.
She thinks there has to be another explanation. Meantime, she's calling
it "The Golden Box."
"I always knew I'd be a part of something important," she said. "But I
never thought it'd come to the house."
Mr. de Leon said he thinks that the box somehow malfunctioned and that a
technician would have to look at it to find out what went wrong. But he
didn't rule out that phone calls from say, Ulysses S. Grant, dead for 112
years, might have been made to the Chatmans' number.
"I think if you believe in the paranormal, it could be true," Mr. de Leon
said jokingly. "Not that there's anything wrong with it."
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22)From: thesaint <thesaint@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: scanners
During the past few months I have heard several conversations about
modifying scanners to pick up mobile phone frequencies. Am I mistaken to
believe that it is illegal to have a scanner capable of doing this in the USA ?
In Australia, no such laws exist, our scanners cover almost every frequency
with few if any gaps.
As I am coming to New York for the seminar, I'd be happy to bring a few
across for those who would like one. Please let me know the frequencies
required and I'll source out some good - not too expensive scanners for the job.
Regards
Johan Erlandsson
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23)From: "Shadow Chasers" <shadowchasers@hotmail.com>
Subject: Satellite-Aided Location Service
Looking for a company that provides "SATELLITE-IMAGERY" and anyone that
has used such a service that can explain the process of using such a
service!
SHADOW CHASER
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24)From: "Shadow Chasers" <shadowchasers@hotmail.com>
Subject: SPRINT TELCO & MONITORING
With all the hype I've been reading here about the various TELCO's, had
a strange encounter with SPRINT today.
After accesing SPRINT and a sucessfull connection was made to the party
I was contacting by way of "answering machine" was attempting to place a
message and knowing the party was there I said "Hello, Pick-Up" two
times in a row, before a SPRINT OP came across the line and ask if she
could help me?
Thinking it was a fluke, retried th above with the same result's!
Are the TELCO's monitoring connections?
SHADOW CHASER
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25)From: Mark De Leon <mdnmd@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Dealt with CCS?
Hello everyone,
I am interested in knowing if anyone has delt with a company called
"CCS". If so, How was their product line, knowlege, customer service,
ranking among other supplers and anything else that you have time to
pass. Thank you very much. Mark
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26)From: BADCOFFEE@aol.com
Subject: Badcoffee has left the building...
I will be unable to respond to any mail until July 27th.
Wishing all the very best.
Augie
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27)From: "john doe" <vacy@hotmail.com>
Subject: Filtering modem noise
I would like to know if there is a piece of hardware that filters out
modem signals when recording a phone line. I am wasting alot of tape
with modem signals, Im just interested obatining voice data.
thanks
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28)From: "Michael A. Banks" <75300.2721@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: FLETC web site?
For Tim, re: Subject: FLETC web site?
The FLETEC site is at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/fletc/
--Michael Banks
(Author of "Web Psychos, Stalkers, and Pranksters,"
http://www.coriolis.com/webpsychos/)
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29)From: Eric Schneider <etschnei@ouray.cudenver.edu>
Subject: Ramblings
Hello all,
I have just finished reading about three months of the SL. My mind is a
little mushed now so please forgive any non-inteligible rambling here
:). Uh, Spyking, what's the posting address for the list? Hope it gets
there.
I am about to graduate with a BSEE and was wondering what work was out
there for an electronic engineer in the surveillance field. I have
always loved this field and would very much like to be active in it (and
paid ;)) I have already developed a couple radio pager decoders
(academic use only of course), and am starting to design a frequency
hopping comm system in the 900 MHz band. I would absolutely love to put
together a high grade Van Eck system sometime. Anyway, any insight on
possible employment would be most welcome (I an in the Colorado area if
anyone wants me now ;)). I have also considered my own business, but
the legalities scare me...
Now for some ideas...
Is there a SMALL power switching power supply out there the could supply
a clean DC from either line ac or battery? This might make a nice
addition to the 'ol bag of tricks. Would anyone be interested in one if
I made one? It would accept say 6 to 150 V AC or DC and provide a user
adjustable DC output from say 5 to 20 VDC. It would of course provide
low dropout and as much filtering (up and down line) as size would
permit. Any feedback on preferred requirements and specs very welcome
(harmonic content, max current, size, etc, etc) .
How about an ultrasonic line tracer (i.e. FOX & HOUND)? Trace the line
whether or not someone is on it? Obviously the inductance prove would
down convert to an audible freq for use.
In the TSCM field, is there a device like a vector analyzer for
telephone line analysis? The idea being to sweep a signal across a
frequency range and monitor the complex impedance of the line at each
frequency, generating a fingerprint of the line (sort of a frequency
domain TDR). It seems to me that most any device attached to the line
would certainly create a very detectable change in the line (inductive
or capacitively). With the advent of ISDN and ASDL/SDL/XDL telcos are
maintaining very consistent line response parameters, making
abnormalities all the more easy to detect. Er, now that I mentioned
that, of course there are such devices, the Telco uses them (duh).
Anyone using them for TSCM? Comments?
On another note about remotely detecting the frequency being used on a
scanner. It would theoretically be possible to detect the operating
frequency of a scanner by the emissions of the LO's. This would be
severely complicated by the fact that most all scanners use multiple
conversion, so knowledge of the type of scanner would be necessary (i.e.
IF's, upper/lower injection, etc). This is all assuming you could
receive the LO signals, which are suppressed as much as possible by
design.
Nuff for now,
Eric
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30)From: "Robert C. Casas Ph.D." <rcc@comsecltd.com>
Subject: Re: New hacker book from Australia
1)From: Murple <btherl@nullnet.net>
Subject: Re: New hacker book from Australia
Murple <btherl@nullnet.net>
>> heh, I'm afraid I don't share your enthusiasm for locking up all the
>> hackers or your other beliefs (probably from this, uhm
fantastic-sounding,
>> hypeless book that you can buy for only $20 - what a steal!@#)
>Actually, the book is very good, very accurate, and very much on the
>hackers' side. Also, it follows the hackers' lives, making for an
>interesting contrast with books like Cuckoo's Egg, and Takedown (about
>Mitnick, haven't read it yet).
If you like to get to the "inside" story that leaves neither side
unscathed, take a look at George Smith's book on the virus underground
and the establishment guys who make a living selling antivirus
software. His Preface makes it clear that he is not affiliated with
either group ( and he isn't.... no one comes out as a Saint wearing
the proverbial "white hat".)
You can read some of the reviews of the book, and an excerp, at my site:
http://www.comsecltd.com
Or, you can visit his site, for lots of additional information at:
http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/
-rc
______________________________________________________________________
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Telephone: 847-729-3565 FAX: 847-729-3575 On CompuServe: GO COMSEC
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01) Did Anyone Else Get This Phone Call?
02) Re: Ming's Railgun, etc...
03) Re: Rail Guns and etc.
04) Re: Caller ID
05) Protecting computer data
06) The Ultimate in Earpieces/Earphones.
07) Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
08) People finder resources
09) Rapid Destruction of your Data
10) Reality or smirky
11) Photos of Bugs Wanted
12) Caller ID Cloaking
13) Re: Crypt review of underground
14) Tuthill Hamfest
15) Destroying information on PC
16) Rail guns
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1)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: Did Anyone Else Get This Phone Call?
If anyone else got a strange message to contact Steve Uhrig over the
past week I'd appreciate it if you'd give me a call or drop me an email.
Trace Carpenter
--
Trace Carpenter Investigations ******
2926 Maple Ave., Ste. 200 Friends help you move;
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2)From: Martin Pask <100142.3101@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Ming's Railgun, etc...
What is a rail gun and what does it do?
M.P.I.
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3)From: Patrick Scalia <scalia@intersurf.com>
Subject: Re: Rail Guns and etc.
Rail guns are not in the realm of fantasy. They are feasable, do-able,
and the technology is relatively cheap. The theory behind rail guns is
really much simpler than one might think, and is not beyond the reach of
the average Joe Schmuck with a little money to spend and some
electronics knowledge. Two friends of mine, one an electrical engineer
and the other a machinist, and I are building a rail gun. We are all
very busy so I do not anticipate completion of the project for weeks or
months, but it will happen.
Plans for a working rail gun, as well as a completed (very low powered)
rail gun, can be purchased from www.amazing1.com. Of course, if you are
good with electronics, you can extrapolate their relatively sedate rail
gun plans into something really fun (wink wink! nudge nudge!). They also
have plans and working models of many other hairum-scarum type devices,
as well as some others obviously designed to milk money from the dense
and deranged (i.e. "electronic mind control" devices and the like).
Another good web site for devices of questionable legality and/or
morality is the Consumertronics site (don't know the URL but do a web
search under Consumertronics, should get you there). John Williams is
supposedly a former NASA elec. engineer and I have heard that some
(though not all) of his devices are legitimate, though he also lists
mind control and electronic healing devices, and other ridiculous stuff.
Anyone really interested in rail guns should go to the UT-Austin web
site and dig around until you find their rail gun research facility.
They are currently doing research and development for the US Army, and
have developed a number of really scary devices, including one monster
which is field ready now and could be installed on a tank or ship
tomorrow. This particular beast has a 90mm bore, fires 15 rounds in 7.5
seconds (!), and is two to three times as powerful as the main gun
currently installed on the M1A1. UT-Austin apparently leads the world
in rail gun research and their site is a real eye opener.
Don't know much about HERF guns, but I am _very_ interested. Anyone
caring to exchange correspondence on that subject is invited to contact
me via e-mail for a meeting of the minds. Could be productive!
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4)From: FGM <fgm@cais.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID
Everyone should be aware that the Caller ID block provided by the phone
company is merely an electronic service intended to foil other regular
customers. It is *not* intended to prevent transmission of your phone
number to "special" customers, so do not develop an unjustified sense of
well-being. The phone company always knows the origin of a call,
obviously, and is susceptible to official requests for that information.
It is, for example, not possible to block calls to 911 or certain other
numbers outside normal commercial/residential categories.
As to the equipment for this purpose sold by electronic retail outlets, I
have no idea how they work, so check another reliable source before you
get a nasty surprise.
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5)From: "Arny Buckman" <arny@ultranet.com>
Subject: Protecting computer data
There are several ways to protect the data on your hard drive. If
you think that applying a strong magnet to the computer case or the
drive is going to help you, think again. A single monopolar pulse
will still leave hysteresis traces on the disk. You may get all
sorts of read errors and the operating system may not be able to read
the drive, but low level magnetic remnants of the data are still
present. Anyone skilled in extracting low level signals from high
level noise will be able to reproduce the data.
There are several programs (Norton Utilities "wipeinfo" for example)
which are quite effective in wiping disks. They all use the same
procedure, that is, write all "0"s followed by all "1"s - a process
repeated at least three times. Then each location is overwritten
with a single character, usually F6 (hex). The only drawback of this
procedure is that it takes a considerable amount of time. If you're
in a hurry, a .38 hollowpoint through the drive may be your best bet.
A more practical approach is to use removable storage media such as
those manufactured by Iomega and Syquest. These are fast enough to
act effectively as normal hard drives. The cartridge can be
sequestered in any way your imagination can calculate. The removable
cartridge could also be easily destroyed if necessary. Keep your
programs and operating system on your main hard drive but keep all
your sensitive data on the removable cartridge. This isn't 100% safe
since your programs may place some of the data in temporary locations
on your hard drive while they are being processed. You would still
have to go through the wipe procedure but you could limit it to
unused space, which would be considerably faster. I'm assuming that
everyone in this group knows that deleting or erasing a file does not
eliminate it. Delete and erase only release the file's allocated
space and directory entry. Until that space is overwritten several
times, the data is recoverable.
Arny Buckman
arny@ultranet.com
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6)From: David Spengler <davey1@WCNET.ORG>
Subject: The Ultimate in Earpieces/Earphones
Are you tired of the poor quality earphones that are packaged with most of
the portable/handheld scanners being sold today? Would you like clear,
crisp, and loud audio out of an earphone/earpiece? If you answered yes,
then you need to know about the Audio Implements Company at 1703 Pearl
Street, in Waukesha, Wisconsin 53186. Their telephone number is
414-524-2424 and the fax is 414-524-7898. I have had some of their products
for more than six months, and I'm very satisfied. The folks at Audio
Implements are very friendly and helpful and will be glad to send their
catalog if you call them. I am not connected in any way with Audio
Implements, and therefore receive no gain from promoting their products.
Audio Implements customers include many government agencies, and network and
local television stations. They sell earpieces like the Secret Service
agents, and the TV newspeople wear. These are modular products that you can
mix and match to suit your individual needs and uses. They're not cheap,
but you certainly get a very high quality product for the money spent.
Most of the USSS and TV news people use a custom molded earpiece for the
greatest comfort while wearing it for a long time. Audio Implements will
send to you free a molding mixture that you mold to your own ear, let dry,
and send back to them with your order. For a little less money I chose
their model that comes with 6 interchangable ear tips, and have found this
to be more than adequate for my needs. It's also very comfortable to wear.
I have just over $100.00 invested in the components I have. The first item
you need is a 15 ohm receiver. This is what we would commonly think of as a
earphone, but without a cord. Next you will need a cord. They come in a
variety of lengths and sizes, and you will also need to choose the size of
plug to fit your scanner. They are available either straight or coiled. So
now you have a cord coming from the scanner, and a receiver. Next you'll
need an earpiece. Their are many to choose from: the ones with custom
earpieces (molds), the ones with interchangable eartips (like I have), or
soft or hard plastic stock ear molds.
Here's a list of what I have:
Part #309 HDC-95 Coiled Cord w/ 3/32" sub-mini plug $17.00
Part #301 PO-15 15 ohm Receiver 11.50
Part #162 OTCS-L O/C Audio Clarifier w/tips Left 32.00
These parts listed above would be adequate to make one complete unit, ready
to use. Note that you must make a choice of left or right ear. I have also
chose some optional parts so that I have a variety of ways to use my
components. My additional parts include:
Part #683 HPL-3 Hard Plastic Stock Mold, Left Ear, Med. 10.00
Part #314 HDS-94 Cord w/ 3/32" sub-mini plug (2.4 mm) 15.00
Part #783 SPL-3 Soft Plastic Stock Mold, Left Ear, Med. 12.00
The soft plastic stock molds are not recommended because they don't stay in
the ear as well. If you want, the stock molds can be attached directly to
the receivers, eliminating the need for the Audio Clarifier. I prefer the
Audio Clarifier (the coiled cord like the Secret Service agents use) because
of it's comfort and ease of use. You never have to worry about it falling
out of your ear. When using the Audio Clarifier, the receiver can be
clipped to your shirt collar.
If you're looking for a high quality earphone/earpiece I would highly
recommend Audio Implements. They probably have some combination of
components to suite your needs.
If others on the list have used any of these products, I would like to hear
from you concerning your satisfaction and use of the product.
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7)From: Kevin <kevin@innet.com>
Subject: Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
>>>
12)From: phreaker@technologist.com
Subject: Re: Destroy the info on our computer?
I cannot believe that anyone would condone and/or want to use a virus
(unless under exceptional national security conditions and even then
probably not).
TO: "Randy Prefer <mackie@rmi.net>":
The use of a virus is analogous to use of weapons of mass destruction.
They are far too dangerous to play around with. It is one of the few
crimes for which I advocate summary execution (and I am not alone in my
view). If you ever use a virus, I pray you get caught and go to jail
for a long time.
I have no problem with a program that will destroy all the data on a
computer and which is triggered either intentionally by the computer
operator or triggered by a particular sequence or lack of a particular
sequence. This is not a virus but the computer equivalent of the old
style bookie using flashpaper to destroy the evidence.
P
<<<
WTF are you smoking? A virus is no more dangerous than any other program
if it is in the wrong hands... If you know what you'red doing, a virus is
harmless. Don't believe me? Send me any virus you want and I'll run it, no
problem... They are NOT dangerous to play around with unless you are some
MAC user not knowing what you're doing (no offense to MAC users on the list
:)... Give me a break!
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8)From: RomLegSer@aol.com
Subject: People finder resources
I thought you might be interested in a site someone has, at <A HREF="http://ww
w.toolcity.net/~richreen/trackem.html">trackem</A>.
Its a free collection of people finder resources.
Karl Rominger
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9)From: Barry Cuthbertson <twodogs@netasia.net>
Subject: Rapid Destruction of your Data
How one chooses to destroy data depends on who you're trying to keep it away from. If one only wishes to trash some love letters before one wife finds them is a lot different than if one wants to destroy high value corporate data or secret of national importance.
"DOS deletes" just altered the directory entry but the content remains the same so SWEEP del only would alter the directory. May be good enough if your wife is computer illiterate, but most seven year olds will still be able to get at it.
Corporate data on the other hand can be rendered useless by using Norton's WipeDisk with a 3x over write, but this takes a lot of time. Overnight if it's a big disk. You must wipe the entire disk not just selected files because of file migration. If you just wipe the active files there is a good chance that backup/previous version is still lurking hidden on disk.
The only sure and fast way to destroy a HDD is to remove the iron oxide coating. This can be done chemically or by abrasion. The problem is access to the HDD surfaces. It's best to start with a removable HDD. HDD are hermetically sealed so the fastest way to open it is with a firearm (a drill press is better, but usually not as handy) I don't recommend the firearm if the SWAT team is already assembled outside your door!. Have a bottle of acid ready and pour it in the newly created hole. This is far faster then disassembling the HDD and sanding the surface.
Of course, all of this is pointless, the best solution is not to write critical data to the HDD. Use the HDD for your software, KEEP your CRITICAL DATA on other removable media. You can buy memory cards and compress tons of CRITICAL DATA on your memory drive. These little tiny things are easy to hide and easy to destroy.
SURVIVOR been there, DONE that! TDF
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10)From: mulder@tolstoi.saccii.net.au
Subject: Reality or smirky
G'day again,
Just a query... We have a bloke (know the name but...) who writes for a
communication magazine, writes mail on fidonet etc etc, and I'm curious
to find how one should treat such a character. As we assume Codex
provides many insights of how to countermeasure things that dwell into our
privacy. We know that people can use tempest, etc but how much is this
really going on. Personally I'm aware (not paranoid) on what is around
and think twice about talking over cordless telephones etc, but this guy
who responds to messages always gives the impression that we are just
dilusional and paranoid and defends his reason to the brink. He knows
alot and seems quite professional in his writings, but he sways people's
awareness to the "his fact" that there is no need to even "think about
it". Is he right or wrong! OK what people don't know won't hurt them
but shouldn't we make people a hell a lot more aware about the
technology and how it affects them / how it can be used against them?
Allen Crisell.
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11)From: clips@fullergroup.com
Subject: Photos of Bugs Wanted
I am after some pictures (B&W or colour) of bugs that we could use in a
company TSCM brochure. They could be static pictures of bugs or showing
them installed. If anyone had some which they did not mind us using,
please email as gif, jpeg or EPS to
clips@fullergroup.com
Regards, Scott Fuller.
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12)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Caller ID Cloaking
> Answer: There's a number you can enter before you call the actual
> number, that blocks Caller ID. I think it's *63 where I am. Check
> public phones. They usually post it along with all of that info about
> using calling cards, etc. Also, I think Radio Shack sells a device that
> go in between your phone and the jack that blocks Caller ID for every
> phone call. It's costs about $30, I think.
And do you know what that $30 device does? It dials *67 (nope, not *63)
for you when you pick up the phone, saving you all the time and hassle of
agonizing over the pressing of three little buttons.
CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
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13)From: proff@suburbia.net
Subject: Re: Crypt review of underground
Someone mentioned `Virus Creations labs' by George Smith (actuallty
it was someone from internet site that sells it, but I full agree
with your opinion). VCL is fantastic reading, as is all of George's
work. In VCL George pokes fun at seedyness and distortion playing
out in virus software, and virus creation "industry". The writing
is wise, fluid and incredibly funny. Anyone interested in
computer viruses or the virii subculture should definately check it out.
[http://www.soci.niu.edu/~crypt]
George Smith reviews Underground in the upcoming issue of Crypt #44:
====================================
Suelette Dreyfus' "Underground" burns the mind
by George Smith, Crypt Newsletter
Crypt News reads so many bad books, reports and news pieces
on hacking and the computing underground that it's a real
pleasure to find a writer who brings genuine perception to
the subject. Suelette Dreyfus is such a writer, and
"Underground," published by the Australian imprint, Mandarin,
is such a book.
The hacker stereotypes perpetrated by the mainstream media include
descriptions which barely even fit any class of real homo sapiens
Crypt News has met. The constant regurgitation of idiot slogans
-- "Information wants to be free," "Hackers are just people who
want to find out how things work" -- insults the intelligence.
After all, have you ever met anyone who wouldn't want their
access to information to be free or who didn't admit to some
curiosity about how the world works? No -- of course not.
Dreyfus' "Underground" is utterly devoid of this manner of
patronizing garbage and the reader is the better for it.
"Underground" is, however, quite a tale of human frailty.
It's strength comes not from the feats of hacking it portrays --
and there are plenty of them -- but in the emotional and physical
cost to the players. It's painful to read about people like
Anthrax, an Australian 17-year old trapped in a dysfunctional
family. Anthrax's father is abusive and racist, so the son --
paradoxically -- winds up being a little to much like him for
comfort, delighting in victimizing complete strangers with mean
jokes and absorbing the anti-Semitic tracts of Lewis Farrakhan.
For no discernible reason the hacker repetitively baits
an old man living in the United States with harassing telephone
calls. Anthrax spends months of his time engaged in completely
pointless, obsessed hacking of a sensitive U.S. military system.
Eventually, of course, Anthrax become entangled in the Australian
courts and his life collapses.
Equally harrowing is the story of Electron whose hacking pales
in comparison to his duel with mental illness. Crypt News
challenges the readers of "Underground" not to squirm at the
image of Electron, his face distorted into a fright mask of
rolling eyes and open mouth due to tardive dyskinesia,
a side-effect of being put on anti-schizophrenic medication.
Dreyfus expends a great deal of effort exploring what happens
when obsession becomes the only driving force behind her
subjects' hacking. In some instances, "Underground's"
characters degenerate into mental illness, others try to find
solace in drugs. This is not a book in which the hackers
declaim at any great length upon contorted philosophies in which
the hacker positions himself as someone whose function is a
betterment to society, a lubricant of information flow, or
a noble scourge of bureaucrats and tyrants. Mostly, they hack
because they're good at it, it affords a measure of recognition
and respect -- and it develops a grip upon them which goes beyond
anything definable by words.
Since this is the case, "Underground" won't be popular with
the goon squad contingent of the police corp and computer security
industry. Dreyfus' subjects aren't the kind that come neatly
packaged in the "throw-'em-in-jail-for-a-few-years-while-awaiting-trial"
phenomenon that's associated with America's Kevin Mitnick-types.
However, the state of these hackers -- sometimes destitute,
unemployable or in therapy -- at the end of their travails is
seemingly quite sufficient punishment.
Some things, however, never change. Apparently, much of Australia's
mainstream media is as dreadful at covering this type of story as
America's. Throughout "Underground," Dreyfus includes clippings
from Australian newspapers featuring fabrications and exaggeration
that bare almost no relationship to reality. Indeed, in one prosecution
conducted within the United Kingdom, the tabloid press whipped the
populace into a blood frenzy by suggesting a hacker under trial could
have affected the outcome of the Gulf War in his trips through U.S.
computers.
Those inclined to seek the unvarnished truth will find "Underground"
an excellent read. Before each chapter, Dreyfus presents a snippet
of lyric chosen from the music of Midnight Oil. It's an elegant
touch, but I'll suggest a lyric from another Australian band,
a bit more obscure, to describe the spirit of "Underground."
>From Radio Birdman's second album: "Burned my eye, burned my mind, I
couldn't believe it . . . "
["Underground: Tales of Hacking, Madness and Obsession on the
Electronic Frontier" by Suelette Dreyfus with research by Julian
Assange, Mandarin, 475 pp. http://underground.org/book
or http://www.underground-book.com]
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14)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Tuthill Hamfest
Is anyone else aside from me on the list heading up to the Fort Tuthill
Hamfest in Flagstaff this weekend? If you are, and want to GT on Friday
or Saturday, let me know. See this URL for additional details:
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2425/tuthill.htm
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15)From: John Hamernick <jammer@popalex1.linknet.net>
Subject: Destroying information on PC
The fastest way to destroy info on a hard drive, or a floppy, is with a
magnet. Similar to a cassette. Just make sure it is a large enough magnet.
John Hamernick
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16)From: hi_there@dnai.com (snichols/bbogert)
Subject: Rail guns
Rail guns do exist.
See _IEEE Transactions on Magnetics_ vol 29 #1. January 1993. (A good
graduate engineering library should have it, not my usual stomping grounds)
Whole issue dedicated to advanced weaponry. Among other premises of defense
establishment, 21st armored battlefields will need projectile energies
greater than can be achieved through conventional means.
Bill Bogert
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Vol.Two Issue #163 The Surveillance List July 23,1997
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Re: I have recieved my first employee theft case
02) What's new at Sourcebook Online
03) Re: Garbage
04) Information about good GPS units
05) Re: Virii
06) Re: Caller ID Cloaking
07) EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar
08) Opto Scout?
09) Assentor Surveillance Software
10) The silent killing weapons - Long
11) Address from Phone Number
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1)From: Martin Pask <100142.3101@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: I have recieved my first employee theft case
I dont know about where you are comming from,but in the UK it is quite easy to
rent the relevant equipment for about 150 pounds per week. If you wanted to
purchase the equipment there are a multitude of options available, from cmeras
in smoke detectors to PIR sensors for alarm systems. I belive Spyking was
offering the sort of cameras on the list a few weeks ago. Normal price in the UK for such cameras would be from 80 - 200 pounds. If you purchase just the camera then it up to your imagination how you conceal it.There are also some good VCRs on the market for under 500 Pounds. Instalation is simple as long as you have a safe room for the VCR with a power supply. For short runs from the camera to the VCR I normaly use 4 core alarm cable sending the power (normaly 12v) for the camera down one pair and brining back the video signal along the other ( this is good for about 20m) When you go to install it take all the tools you will need including a good multimeter and a monitor (Sticky tape). Have a practice putting it together in the office before you go and get confident that you know how everything is working.
Regards
M.P.I.
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2)From: Jack Reed <jr0280@CSC.ALBANY.EDU>
Subject: What's new at Sourcebook Online
Sourcebook Online
http://www.albany.edu/sourcebook/
The Sourcebook is updated regularly to reflect new data that have come
available and been prepared for the 1996 Sourcebook of Criminal Justice
Statistics, which will be published in the summer of 1997. Changes are
announced on this page and labeled as new for the first 30 days they
appear. The latest revision was done Friday, July 18, 1997 and is detailed
below.
Section 1
Thirteen new tables on campus law enforcement agencies from Bureau of
Justice Statistics (BJS). The full report, Campus Law Enforcement Agencies,
1995 is available on the BJS Web site
Two new tables on workload, budget, and staff of the U.S. Marshals Service
Updates of tables on criminal cases filed per judgeship in U.S. District
Courts; the number, terms and qualification requirements of judges; jury
fees; statutory provisions related to alcohol use and driving; and private
correctional facilities
Section 2
The latest attitudes toward important issues for the government to address
and attitudes of college freshmen toward various social issues
Section 3
New tables on drug abuse-related emergency department episodes from the
Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN)
Updated information on offenses in Federal parks, explosives and bombing
incidents, law enforcement officers killed and assaulted, and terrorist incidents
Section 4
Aliens deported from the United States in fiscal year 1995; the value of
counterfeited notes and coins passed and seized, and counterfeiting operations
suppressed and arrests by the U.S. Secret Service in fiscal year 1996
Section 5
Updated tables on requests for immunity by Federal prosecutors; court-authorized interceptions of wire, oral, or electronic communications; criminal cases handled by U.S. attorneys; criminal tax fraud cases handled by the Internal Revenue Service, prosecutions and convictions for violations of U.S. immigration and nationality laws; and investigations by the U.S. Secret Service
New tables on juveniles in Federal courts from the BJS Special Report
Juvenile Delinquents in the Federal Criminal Justice System.
Section 6
A new table on juveniles confined by the Federal Bureau of Prisons from
the BJS Special Report on juveniles in the Federal criminal justice system cited above
Sources available on the World Wide Web
The new Correctional Populations in the United States, 1995, a source of
many Sourcebook tables on persons under correctional supervision, is available on the Bureau of Justice Statistics Web site (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/).
Sourcebook Online
http://www.albany.edu/sourcebook/
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3)From: Tim Johnson <dbugman@amug.org>
Subject: Re: Garbage
Reference the following post of 21 July 97:
13)From: MikeRowley@aol.com
Subject: Garbage
Is there anyway you could reduce the amount of garbage in the list you send
out... examples include someone complaining about the proper use of the English
language. Excuse me but this isn't an educational site.
Also there are a large number of headers and *********** mixxed troughout.
Just an idea
------------------------------------
You are correct, this is not an English forum, but professionals (and I
hope we all are) should be aware of the proper use of the language. My
clients judge me on the quality of the final product as well as everything
that occurs before. If you are on this forum, you are judged not only by
your clients but by your peers. When you present something to a client as a
result of a referral, you are representing the individual who referred you.
HE or SHE is ultimately judged by the company they keep.
I would like to add, at this point, that the comment on proper usage of the
English language was not meant to be directed at any one individual, but at
all of us--myself included, just in case any of you missed my grammer goofs
in the initial post. Several of you didn't. <grin>
Reference the other comment, the ***********, etc. are required to separate
the various postings. The headers are posted as part of the message and are
posted as received.
Tim Johnson
Tim Johnson dbugman@amug.org
Technical Security Consultants Inc
http://www.amug.org/~dbugman/
What you say in private is your business.
Keeping it private is ours. (c)TSCI 1987
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4)From: Rick Hofmann <rchtscm@ni.net>
Subject: Information about good GPS units?
A friend is looking for information about good GPS units. He is looking for
a unit suitable for taking with him in a private aircraft. Any suggestions
or recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Rick Hofmann, CCO
______________________________________________________________________
MICROSEARCH - Electronic Surveillance Detection * Counter-espionage
Business Espionage Controls and Countermeasures Association,
Calif.Assn.of Licensed Investigators, American Society for Industrial Security
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5)From: Alex Thome <fthome@amug.org>
Subject: Re: Virii
>They are NOT dangerous to play around with unless you are some
>MAC user not knowing what you're doing (no offense to MAC users on the
>list
>:)... Give me a break!
I think us "mac users" are better off, having far less virii to worry
about, then you "pc users". Although *nix users are still best off having
close to now virii. BTW, what gives you the right to say mac users don't know what they're doing? I think the same goes for quite a few PC users.
Shadow Runner
--Believe nothing until you question everything--
>>Knowledge is Power<<
"... It doesn't tell the whole story. Remeber that. Nothing ever does..."
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6)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: Re: Caller ID Cloaking
> > Answer: There's a number you can enter before you call the actual
> > number, that blocks Caller ID. I think it's *63 where I am. Check
> > public phones. They usually post it along with all of that info about
> > using calling cards, etc. Also, I think Radio Shack sells a device that
> > go in between your phone and the jack that blocks Caller ID for every
> > phone call. It's costs about $30, I think.
>
> And do you know what that $30 device does? It dials *67 (nope, not *63)
> for you when you pick up the phone, saving you all the time and hassle of
> agonizing over the pressing of three little buttons.
Oh, I know. It even says so right on the box and in the Radio Shack
catalog. Oops, ok it's *67, not *63, sorry. I haven't used that number
anyway since I stopped war dialing. (I got sick of all of these Caller
ID losers calling me back and messing up my list saying "Why did you
call me & hang up?") BBSs have practically died since the Internet
became popular. I agree that it's a waste of money (I just included it
in the dialing number).
Also, as other people have noted, using *67 before a call in no way
actually blocks your number from being known. It's just to prevent
people with Caller ID from knowing your number. Ever since ESS came
out, the phone company knows every number you've dialed and when.
Dialing *67 will not protect you from the FBI getting your number. The
only anonymous phone is a public pay phone, and maybe not even then. ;)
-WW
--
"Sure, we have order, but at what price?" ICQ UIN 1430880.
-=WindWalker Access=- -=PeaceFire=-
http://www.dynanet.com/~wieland/ http://www.peacefire.org/
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7)From: Noah Robischon <noah@pathfinder.com>
Subject: EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar
From The Netly News (http://www.netlynews.com)
by George Smith
July 22, 1997
International terrorists are downloading plans for a superweapon from the Internet! Russian gangsters and hackers are responsible! Banks in England and Russia have been destroyed by it! The Irish Republican Army is going to use it next! Look out, here comes the chupacabras of cyberspace, always dreaded but never seen: the electromagnetic pulse (EMP) gun.
Said to be capable of corrupting computer circuitry on corporate networks with ionizing radiation, microwaves or radio waves, the EMP gun strikes from afar even as secretaries labor at their desks.
The only sticking point is that no one has actually produced one for public examination.
[.....]
http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/0,1039,1189,00.html
--------------->
Noah Robischon
The Netly News
http://www.netlynews.com
212-522-5876
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8)From: Richard Lubash <rlubash@POCO.MV.COM>
Subject: Opto Scout?
I suspect that this has probably been discussed (I am a new list member) so
if it has please feel free to reply by private email.
I have checked the DejaNews archives and could not find a suitable answer
to this question so I thought I'd through it up to the list.
I would like some information on the Opto Scout in relation to using it in
rural to semi-rural environments. Do you have to actually be close enough
to see the source of transmission for the scout to be effective or is it
possible to get longer range assuming proper antenna and filters installed.
Thanks,
Richard / N1VXW
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9)From: Andre Bacard <abacard@crl10.crl.com>
Subject: Assentor Surveillance Software
Fellow Security Watchers,
The attached article about ASSENTOR speaks for itself. What's your
opinion about this software?
See you in the future,
Andre Bacard <abacard@well.com>
Author of "Computer Privacy Handbook" and "Hunger for Power"
Interviewed in PLAYBOY at http://www.well.com/user/abacard
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[This article was written by Shawn Willett <swillett@cmp.com> for "Computer
Reseller News." It was published at <http://www.crn.com/>. (Look under Daily
Digest for 7/11/97). Circulated with permission from Shawn Willett.]
"E-Mail Surveillance Product on Way"
By Shawn Willett Vienna, Va. Several brokerage houses are beta testing
software that analyzes all e-mail messages for everything from SEC violations
to political correctness. The product, dubbed ASSENTOR, which was
developed by integrator SRA Corp. in Vienna, Va. is drawing intense reactions from across the industry. Securities firms are elated--pointing out that the automated surveillance will allow brokers to communicate with customers through e-mail for the first time. Privacy experts, meanwhile, are
aghast at the Big Brother aspects of the technology, and fear it could be used by companies to snoop on the personal lives of their employees. "It does put
people on notice that their e-mail activity is being monitored, but it's the
same with voice mail. Most companies also reserve the right to listen in to
calls," said Pim Goodbody, vice president management services for the
Securities Industry Association in New York, a trade group for brokerage
houses, and other investment firms. "From a perspective of plain
common sense, this is utter lunacy. It's a guaranteed way to create a
disenchanted workforce," said David Banisar, staff counsel for the Electronic
Privacy Information Center in Washington DC. The product is under evaluation
by Dean Witter, Oppenheimer & Co., and several other firms. ASSENTOR
arose out of the peculiar needs of the securities industry where correspondence with customers is regulated by SEC and industry guidelines that protect against
misrepresentation of stocks, according to Michael Reingruber, director of
financial services at SRA. "Right now, before a broker sends out a message
letter, he hands it over to the compliance manager to guarantee it follows
all the rules. Brokers want to do the same with e-mail," said Reingruber.
ASSENTOR has a natural language processor that analyzes every outgoing and
internal e-mail message using artificial intelligence techniques. But the
product goes beyond looking for SEC violations, it also looks for possible
sexual harassment or politically incorrect statements that might offend
employees or customers. Those features are referred to as "firm preservation"
features. "It's a good idea. There's already been three cases this year where
someone sent out a joke about Ebonics or with an x-rated picture and they got
sued for having a hostile work environment," said one official from a
securities firm who wished to remain anonymous. Messages are given a quotient
according to their offensiveness. Compliance managers set a threshold whereby
messages that exceed a certain level of offensiveness or suspicion are handed
over to an intermediary for inspection. According to Reingruber, about 11
percent of all e-mail messages are currently being flagged. "About 90 percent
of these are for profanity," he said. SRA officials said they plan to market
the product to other industries after its initial run in the financial world.
That has some worried about misuse or overuse. "This is really a surreal
product. It shows how the legal establishment is trying to get a stranglehold
on cyberspace.......I don't think people in their wildest dreams would have
believed a product like this could exist several years ago," said Andre
Bacard, author of "The Computer Privacy Handbook," (Peachpit Press, Berkeley,
Calif.). However Bacard and other experts admitted that companies legally
have almost free reign when it comes to monitoring their employees activities
on the job. According to Eric Generous, chief financial officer at securities
firm Friedman, Billings, Ramsey & Co. Inc. in Roslyn, Va. the product
must be used wisely. Generous is putting the product through its paces right now. "The education part of this is crucial. We don't want to appear that we are watching over everyone.....but at the same time we want to make it clear that we can't have these types of things happening over e-mail."
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10)From: ALANYU <ALANYU@prodigy.net>
Subject: The silent killing weapons
The silent killing weapons of law enforcement officers
(and undercover operators)--Nonlethal weapons
We know that everyone must follow the law in the democratic society.
Even when the law enforcement officers enforce the law, they must
also follow the law. Therefore, people's legal rights can be protected
in the democratic society.
Unfortunately, since the so called nonlethal weapons (invisible
infrasound, or radiation wave weapons) have been transferred to law enforcement from military. The law enforcement officers have taken a chance and used the
invisible wave weapons on victims to avoid leaving external injury as
evidence when officers' actions violate the law.
Since these so called nonlethal weapons are invisible, noiseless, and
leaving no external injured evidence, these weapons have been used
to torture, murder victims or manipulated people's lives silently
The so called nonlethal weapons include microwave, acoustic weapon,
radio-frequency, infrasound, ELF, electromagnetic pulse (EMP), etc.
The above weapons mostly can kill people within a short time (such as
radio-frequency weapon) or a period of time (such as infrasound,
microwave, acoustic weapon, etc.). The ELF can be used to make victims being
injured without knowledge (such as inducing deep sleep on victims then attack
them). The EMP can be used to disable victims' cars' engine and cause
car accident. Also it can be used to induce engine failure on victims' car
and make victims without transportation to live in the society.
Thus, the above so called nonlethal weapons whole can be used to kill
people directly or indirectly.
Based on the information of NIJ report, 4/94 SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN
magazine, and NEXUS magazine, it prove that state & local law
enforcement have used the mind control equipment (microwave voice
equipment, voice synthesis) and weapons (so called nonlethal weapons
microwave weapon, radio-frequency weapon, electromagnetic pulse weapon)
on civilians. Therefore, state and local law enforcement are controlling
local people's lives and become mind control basic units.
(Attachment)
==============================================================
The 3\23\94 WASHINGTON POST reported: "The Pentagon and the
Justice Department have agreed to share state-of-the-art military
technology with civilian law enforcement agencies, including exotic
'non-lethal' weapons."
In March, 1993, the National Institute of Justice [NIJ]--(an office
of Janet Reno's Justice Department), issued a report titled: "NIJ
Initiative On Less-Than-Lethal Weapons." The Department is now
encouraging local and state police organizations to utilize Soviet-
KGB psychotronic, electromagnetic and mind control weapons against
their local citizenry. Targets for these KGB weapons include
"domestic disturbances" meaning that mind-control devices are
even to be utilized against family arguments.
The reports stated: "Short-term research will be completed
TO ADOPT MILITARY TECHNOLOGIES TO USE BY DOMESTIC LAW
ENFORCEMENT...including LASER, MICROWAVE, AND ELECTROMAGNETIC"
WEAPONS.( See " New world Order & ELF Psychotronic tyranny" by C.
B. Baker Youth Action Newsletter December 1994))
The 4\94 SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN reported: "Federal researchers are now
investigating a broad array of non-lethal devices
including...LOW-FREQUENCY 'INFRASOUND' GENERATORS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO
TRIGGER NAUSEA OR DIARRHEA,...electronics-disrupting pulses of
electromagnetic radiation..and biological agents that can chew up
crops." To help promote the U.N. global dictatorship, Soviet KGB s
cientist have recently been working at various U.S. advanced weapons
facilities, such as Lawrence Liverpool and Los Alamos Laboratories.
In November, 1993, a three day top-secret non-lethal weapons
conference took place in the Applied Physics Laboratory at Johns
Hopkins University in Maryland. The meeting was attended by Attorney
General Janet Reno, numerous scientist, military weapons experts,
intelligence officials from state and local police departments. The
main purposes of the meeting was to prepare leading law enforcement
officials for the use of psychotronic mind-control weapons.
Amongst the subjects covered at the conference were "RADIO-FREQUENCY
WEAPONS, HIGH POWERED MICROWAVE TECHNOLOGY, ACOUSTIC TECHNOLOGY"
(used to transmit subliminal voices into a victims head), VOICE
SYNTHESIS, and APPLICATION OF EXTREME FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC
FIELDS TO NON-LETHAL WEAPONS." Col. John B. Alexander, Program
Manager for Non-Lethal (psychotronic) Defense, Los Alamos National
Laboratory, served as PRESENT DAY, U.S.Government use of
electromagnetic weapons was described conference chairman.
in the Oct-Nov., 94 NEXUS MAGAZINE: "Directed-energy weapons
currently being deployed include, for example, a micro-wave weapon
manufactured by Lockheed-Sanders and used for a process known as
'Voice Synthesis' which is REMOTE BEAMING OF AUDIO (i.e., VOICES OR
OTHER AUDIBLE SIGNALS) DIRECTLY INTO THE BRAIN OF ANY SELECTED HUMAN
TARGET. This process is also known within the U.S. Government as
"Synthetic Telepathy (a kind of Microwave voices device -- Alan Yu
note)." This psychotronic weapon was demonstrated by Dr. Dave
Morgan at the November, 1993 Non-Lethal weapons conference (same
meeting as above Nonlethal weapon conference).
The enclosed information has proven that the invisible wave weapon
(so called "nonlethal weapon") are the intentionally designed by
the government to against the terrorist and drug traffickers.
However, since these invisible wave weapons can be used to injure
victims without leaving external evidence, it has offered users unlimited
chances to violate law or even commit crimes. Therefore, these weapons have
been abused by the mind control operators to manipulate people's lives
and suppress the law abiding citizens who know the operators' crimes,
or infringe operators' interests or whom the operators personally
dislike.
This information is a report on nonlethal technologies, issued by
the Council on Foreign Relations. The information not only has
proven these weapon can be used to injure victim from any direction
without victim's knowledge, but also it does prove that the invisible
wave weapons currently are in the hands of law enforcement officers.
(attachment)
----------------------------------------------
This report points out that , "The Nairobiv Convention, to which
the United States is a signatory, prohibits the broadcast of
electronic signals into a sovereign state without its consent in
peace time.
This report opens discussion of use of these weapons against
"terrorists" and "drug traffickers". The CFR report recommends
that this be done secretly so that the victims do not know where
the attack is from, OR IF THERE EVEN IS AN ATTACK!
There is a problem with this approach. The use of these weapons,
even against these kinds of individuals, may be in violation of United
States law in that it presume guilt rather than innocence. In other
words, the POLICE, CIA, DEA, OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATION
become THE JUDGE, JURY AND EXECUTIONER. (See _ANGELS DON'T
PLAY THE HAARP_1995 by Jeane Manning & Dr. Nick Begich)
-------------------------------------------------
Based on above reported words (or if there even is an attack!),
It has proven that the corrupted operators can use the invisible
wave weapon to manipulate people's life (health and activities)
without victims' knowledge.
These undercover career operators have been professionally trained
to use the invisible wave weapon to manipulate people's life without
victims' knowledge. Thus, the corrupted operators can eliminate
anyone who know the operators' crimes, or infringe the operators'
interests, and whom the operators dislike.
Most of them have been trained with the special technique in using
invisible wave weapons to manipulating people's life (health and
activities) or induce death diseases (young or new recruited operators
will learn these technique from senior operators when operators
manipulate people's lives in local central machine station).
Therefore, after the injuries have been done, most of victims even
didn't
know if there is an attack!
I would show some reported cases below to prove my words.
1. To manipulate people's lives at their homes.
attachment)_Microwave Harassment & Mind Control
Experimentation_
by Julianne Mckinney December 1992.
=========================================================
One individual (driven to extremes of stress by ongoing electronic
harassment focusing on her children) killed one child in an effort to
protect her from further pain.
Another individual, during a telephone conversation, was told by an
employee of a local power company that , if she value the lives of her
children, she would drop the her opposition to the company's
installation of high power lines. Since receiving that threat, the
individual 11-year-old daughter has been reduced to extremes of pain,
resulting in her recurrent hospitalization for treatment of illness
which cannot be diagnosed. It's now also apparent to this individual
that her three-year-old son is on the receiving end of
externally-induced auditory input.
=================================================================
The two families in these examples are average law abiding citizens and
living in their own home. Even under such kind circumstances, these
members of these two families cannot avoid of being spied on. So, the
children of these two families cannot avoid being attacked and harm by
remotely controlled invisible wave weapons (even in the security of
their own home or staying a hospitals).
2. To create car accident and eliminate people on car:
(a). By emitting enough microwave radiation from the axis of steering
wheel to force driver falling into dizzy or asleep on high way to
create car accident. I have reported that a hidden microwave
emitter in the axis of steering wheel. Based on power beaming
system patent, this emitter can be remotely power to beam enough
microwave radiation to force driver falling into asleep or become
dizzy on high way and cause car accident.
I would use a reported case to further clarify it.
(attachment)_Microwave Harassment & Mind Control Experimentation_
by Julianne Mckinney December 1992.
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Staged accident:
It should be noted that, in some of these cases. "accidental"
deaths do occur. One individual in contact with us reported that his
mother drove off a cliff to her death, during a period when he was
researching evidence that a still-respected, high-level State
Department official had passed A-bomb secrets to the Soviet
Government during World War II. The accident occurred shortly after
her car had undergone routine maintenance. She was returning from
a dental appointment when he accident occurred. Witnesses state that
it appeared that she had suddenly stepped on the accelerator before
running off the road. The accident served to terminate this person's
research project.
========================================
I have reported that current mind control surveillance system has
"wired" every car, boat, home, etc. in US.
Therefore, based on power beaming system patent, the hidden emitters
in private car or public transportation can also be remotely
controlled to injured or kill victims (such as use the radio frequency
wave to induce "heart attack", or emit enough microwave radiation to
force driver falling into asleep to cause car accident) by operators.
The above cases has proven that the car accident happened shortly
after victim's car had undergone routine maintenance.
How could the victim happen the car accident ?
Considering whole situation in this case, my deduction is below.
The operators might remotely power the hidden emitter in the axis of
the steering wheel to beam enough microwave radiation to cause driver
falling asleep and cause the car accident.
The above report has mentioned that the victim had stepped on
accelerator before running out the road.
Why would the victim step on accelerator instead of stepping on
brakes?
That's because before the victim was beamed the microwave radiation,
she was stepping on accelerator to drive her car.
Only the victim had been emitted microwave radiation to force her
become dizzy, however, the victim momentarily become conscious in
such kind of condition and found that her car was approaching the
cliff. Therefore, she was trying to stop her car by stepping the
brakes. However, she made a mistake to step on the accelerator
(instead of stepping on the brakes) and running off the road.
That's because she didn't fully awake (her dizziness was caused by
microwave radiation) and totally forgot that her foot was
stepping on the accelerator.
Furthermore, in the emergency situation, victim only has a split
second remaining to stop her car.
Therefore, she simply tried to step on the brakes as hard as she can.
Unfortunately, victim totally forgot her foot was still on the
accelerator which she thought it was the brakes.
Therefore, when victim thought that she stepped on her foot on brakes
as hard as she can to stop the car, she actually stepped on accelerator
and caused her running off the road.
The above case shows that this car accident's victim should be
beamed with the microwave radiation by operators remotely.
Based on above report, the car accident happened on victim after she was
researching evidence that a still-respected, high-level State Department
official had passed A-bomb secrets to the Soviet Government during World
War II.
Why did the mind control operators want to kill her if victim try to
find a treason?
That's because to normal US citizens, the Soviet government is an enemy
country. However, there is no national border between mind control operators.
Therefore, any operator of other country (even enemy country) is still
US mind control operators' real family member.
So, if a normal US citizen pass the secret of A-bomb to Soviet, he will
commit treason. But, such kind of principle is not suit mind control
operators since the operators of the world are all members of a real
family. That's why the US operators rather kill this victim to protect the
treason who is an operator. That's because an operator is operators' real family man but the fellow American are not treated as their man.
(b). By using the electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weapon to "short-circuits"
a vehicle, knocking out the motor, losing engine brakes function,
but leaving the emergency brakes and steering operative.
Based on EMP weapon's function, the operators can use EMP weapon to
stop a victim's car engine keeping running (it will also cause engine
brakes not work) on high way or road, therefore, it can cause car
accident on victim if victim still use the engine brakes to stop car.
That's because one do not know that he should use the emergency
brakes instead of using engine brakes to stop his car after operators
use the EMP weapon to disable victim's car engine.
Under normal conditions, drivers are only accustomed to stepping on
the brakes pedal (engine brakes) to stop their cars.
Therefore, if victim do not know that his car engine has been disable
with EMP weapon (so the engine no longer works), the victim will
step on brakes to stop his car. After the engine has stopped working,
the engine brakes will be also not work. Furthermore, there is
only a few seconds to make correct decision and stop the car before
cause car accident. Therefore, if victim only step on brakes to stop
her car, it will cause car accident on victim.
Now, I would use another reported case to further clarify it.
(attachment)-Microwave Harassment & Mind Control Experimentation_
by Julianne McKinney
=================================================
Staged accident:
Lexington, MO, who was killed when the brakes on her tractor failed.
We are informed that she had been collecting affidavits from persons
who believe they are the targets of government harassment and
experimentation when her "accident" occurred. We are also informed
that those affidavits have disappeared.
========================================
According to NIJ report on the function of EMP (electromagnetic pulse)
weapon, it can "short-circuits" a vehicle, knocking the motor out, but
leaving the brakes and steering operative.
(attachment)
===========================================
>Mike Sweeney wrote:
> National Institute of Justice
> March 1993
> NIJ Initiative on Less-Than-Lethal Weapons
> by David W. Hayeslip, Ph.D., and Alan Preszler, Ph.D.
.....> leaving the brakes and steering operative,
............
> NIJ had begun in 1987 to examine operational requirements for future
> innovative less-than-lethal devices and examined several new
>technologies that might be developed for use in law enforcement. Of
> interest were electrical and electromagnetic devices
>...
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>[these now exist, one is the Patriot, a device that short-circuits a
> vehicle which the police are pursuing, knocking the motor out, but
> leaving the brakes and steering operative,
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>...........
> [Dalewin Group Ltd. Selection Menu]
==============================================================
Although the above report claim that this weapon only knock the motor
out but leaving the brakes and steering operative, the leaving brakes
are only the emergency brakes.
That's because the car's engine's brakes will be failed or not work
after EMP weapon induce car engine failure.
However, a unknowing driver (victim) will mostly step on the engine's
brakes (which brakes become failure after engine failure) to stop her
car when one meet engine failure (which was caused by EMP weapon).
Therefore, if the operators use EMP weapon to "short-circuit" the
victim's vehicle engine when victim drove on the road.
The unknowing victim would cause car accident, if she only stepped
on the engine's brakes to stop her car.
That's because victim's engine brakes had stopped work after engine
failure.
3. By using radio-frequency weapon to induce heart attack on people
and make them to die as if natural cause.
The powerful, deadly weapon have been mostly used to create heart
attacks on victims outside one's home.
That's because the radio-frequency weapon is so powerful and can be
used to attack target's heart to kill target up to a kilometer away.
(attachment)--US NEWS & WORLD REPORT July,7,97 BY DOUGLAS PASTERNAK
=======================
The Soviets were known to have potent blinding lasers. They were also
feared to have developed acoustic and radio-wave weapons.
The 1987 issue of Soviet Military Power, a cold war Pentagon
publication,
warned that the Soviets might be close to "a prototype short-range
tactical RF [radio frequency] weapon." The Washington Post reported
that year that the Soviets had used such weapons to kill goats at
1 kilometer's range. The Pentagon, it turns out, has been pursuing
similar devices since the 1960s.
==========================================
After the hidden emitters of such kind of weapon have been installed
on lights poles every kilometer, operators can murder any victim
(including suspecting victims who has no protection) outside one's
home and kill unknowing victim anywhere (including their own homes).
For example, in 1995, a former head of Taiwan's National
Security Institute died of a "heart-attack" in a public bath pool in
Taipei. This death occurred two days after he announced that he would
write a memoir. His widow claimed that "her husband has never had
any heart problems in his life" (supported by his health record
history) and requested an autopsy to be performed in order to
determine the true cause of his death.
unfortunately, the invisible wave weapon always leave no external
injured evidence. Therefore, the widow found nothing.
Based on the widow's claim and the fatal situation of her husband,
we believe that he was killed by Taiwan's mind control operators
to avoid the mind control security system security leak.
(attachment)--Conspiracy Nation
====================================================================
>From bigxc@prairienet.org Sun Mar 26 14:24:23 EST 1995
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 4 Num. 43
======================================
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[The following is a transcript of a recorded phone message put
out by a group in Chicago called "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up
the Courts [CCCC]." (312) 731-1100 and (312) 731-1505.]
Hi! Sherman Skolnick, Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts,
9800 South Oglesby.
What happens to judges who are independent-minded and *defy* the
establishment? Well sometimes they are simply murdered!
Some examples:
In 1969, James Earl Ray (real name, Ryan) was pressured by his
lawyers to plead guilty to killing Dr. Martin Luther King, jr.
Ray's lawyers have promised him a lot of things, including large
sums of money through the sale of a book. Later, Ray wrote to
Memphis judge Preston Battle and requested permission to withdraw
his guilty plea and stand trial, which would have opened up the
whole conspiracy, including the mystery man, Raoul.
Under Tennessee law, it would have been *only* Judge Battle, as
the sentencing judge, who would grant such a review. As he was
considering the case, Judge Battle was found dead, laying over
Ray's petition! Supposedly, "heart failure"! (We call *that* a
"heart attack".)
Ray spent *years* winding around the courts, trying to get a
*trial*! Finally, in 1976, a three-judge federal appeals court
panel was hearing the case. During the oral argument, federal
appellate judge William E. Miller said *he* was in favor of
forcing state authorities to re-open the Ray case. As he was
later working on the decision, Judge Miller died -- supposedly a
"heart attack". Then the other two judges issued a written
opinion of the court rejecting Ray's appeal! They said Judge
Miller, by then dead, had agreed with them before he died; we
have only their word for it.
We believe both Judge Battle and Judge Miller were murdered at
crucial points in the Ray case.
The Patty Hearst case went up for grabs because the trial judge,
Oliver J. Carter, died of an alleged "heart attack" just before
passing final sentence. Kept out of the trial was documentation
showing the involvement of the CIA with the so-called "Symbionese
Liberation Army", interwoven in the case. Instrumental in the
cover-up were stories of *Chicago Tribune* reporter Ron
Cosio(sp?), *linked* to the federal spy network.
.................
========================================
From above cases, we know the so called nonlethal weapons have become
the silent killing weapons of law enforcement officers and undercover
operators.
POWER ALWAYS CORRUPTED, ABSOLUTELY POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY!
Since these law enforcement officers have such kinds of weapons in hands
to control or manipulate people's lives, most of them have been
corrupted.
Currently, police officers, undercover operators will suppress anyone
who
knows operators' crimes, or infringe their interests, or whom operators
dislike.
Beside the above actions, the police officers (and undercover
operators)
can falsely accuse anyone as insane if one disagree with their
corrupted actions. Furthermore, these law enforcement officers or
undercover operators can censor people's articles on internet or
interfere
with people's posting or writing with the latest technology.
(attachment)--see page 204 on_ANGELS DON'T PLAY THIS HAARP_by
Jeane Manning and Dr. Nick Begich 1995
=====================================================
E-Systems developed Global Positioning System (GPS) technologies
(satellite based) which can locate objects anywhere
in the world within one foot of the subjects' actual location.
They also developed systems for LAW ENFORCEMENT which can
intercept faxed messages, telephone calls, modem tranfers, and video
transmissions on a single system.
They developed the EMASS computers which are powerful enough to sort
the volumes of information needed for tracking billions of people.
===============================================
Combining with the surveillance system, the silent killing weapons, and
censor articles' technique, these officers and undercover mind control
operators have secretly built a suppressing regime for themselves.
If anyone dare criticize the corrupted actions of law enforcement
officers
and undercover operators. they will either eliminate this one or falsely
accuse one as insane.
Our government have fallen into these officers' traps and put all lethal
invisible infrasound or radiation wave weapons (so called nonlethal
weapons) in their hands. Therefore, everyone's life (including President
& Congress members) are all under their control no matter where people
are.
However, people have some unalienable rights such as rights of life,
liberty and pursuit of happiness and they are protected by US
Constitution.
Since law enforcement officers and undercover operators can use these
invisible wave weapons to manipulate people's lives or murder everyone
within US, the transfer of so called nonlethal weapons to law
enforcement
to use on US citizens is unconstitutional and should be banned.,
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Alan Yu
The first objective of mind control organization is to manipulate
people's lives in order to secretly eliminate those people who know
the
operators' crimes or whom the operators dislike (they make it looks as
if the victim died of natural causes).
The mind (machine) control system is the national security system of
Taiwan from the late 1970s and should be the same in US or lots free
countries (In Taiwan, the mind machine is translated as "Psychological
Language Machine." In Mandarin it sounds as "Sin_Lee_Yue_Yan_Gi,"
and its words means the machine can be used to read the human mind).
Accusing others as insane without evidence is the "trademark" of mind
control organization.
To avoid exposing the truth, fasely accusing mind control victims
as mental illness people have become the popular tactics of corrupted
operators in current society.
(If any law enforcement officer declare anyone as "insane" and
the social security department do not put these individuals in the
welfare program as disable persons, then it only represent a kind of
political suppression or false accusation to discredit someone.
That' because the local law enforcement is the basic unit of mind
control)
The shorter the lie is, the better it is. So, the liar can avoid
inconsistencies and mistakes that other people can catch.
Even in the most dangerous battlefield, there are always soldiers
who survive.
Only the truth will triumph over deception and last forever.
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11)From: awfrr@world.att.net
Subject: Address from Phone Number
How can I get a phone number from just the street address? The phone
company is not very cooperative.
Bill F.
AWFRR@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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01) Re: Opto Scout
02) Monitoring Software
03) Re: File erasure!
04) GPS in Aircraft
05) Re: The silent Killing Weapons
06) Is this scanner worth it's asking price?
07) Re: Noah Robischon (EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar)
08) New reading material
09) Re: rail gun & my two cents worth
10) Opto Electronics Scout Response
11) Remote transfer
12) Caller ID Cloaking
13) Re: EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar
14) Re: Address from Phone Number
15) Am looking for a partner
16) Infrared Plastic?
17) Re: Caller ID
18) Re: The Surveillance List Forum
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1)From: Colin Thompson <colint@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: Opto Scout
Greetings,
My Scout has a maximum range of about 1/4 mile. I have picked up low
band CHP transmissions from a larger distance but these have all been
high speed pursuits at night. The only way I have been able to
determine the distance was to listen to the conversation and try and
figure out my position relative to the on-ramp used by the CHP. Of
course cordless phones need to be with in about two feet. The Scout
needs a signal that is 10 to 15 db above the background RF level, so
output power and distance from the transmission source must be factored
in. Opto makes a preselector ($950!!!) that narrows the bandwith to 4
mhz, increasing the pick up distance by a factor of ten. With the
preselector you would need to know what frequency range you are
targeting. I hope this helps.
Respectfully,
Colin Thompson
Richard Lubash wrote:
>
> I suspect that this has probably been discussed (I am a new list member) so
> if it has please feel free to reply by private email.
>
> I have checked the DejaNews archives and could not find a suitable answer
> to this question so I thought I'd through it up to the list.
>
> I would like some information on the Opto Scout in relation to using it in
> rural to semi-rural environments. Do you have to actually be close enough
> to see the source of transmission for the scout to be effective or is it
> possible to get longer range assuming proper antenna and filters installed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard / N1VXW
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2)From: Giovanni <wop@calwest.net>
Subject: Monitoring Software
I am wondering if their is a program out there that will monitor everything
that is typed on a PC. I am ideally looking for something that will run in
the backgroud so no one will know that they are being monitored. I would
also be helpful if it could e-mail the file that contains the list; that
way i can monitor my computer while i am away from it (on business trips,
etc..). If there is a program like this out there?
mailto: wop@calwest.net
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3)From: "Tim Hill" <tlhill@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Re: File erasure!
Hi,
Just a thought. For those of you still using DOS , the command DELTREE has an option to suppress the comfirmation line,
Thus "deltree /y \" would produce interisting results !!!
I havent Tried this though !!!!
Tim Hill
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4)From: FGM <fgm@cais.com>
Subject: GPS in Aircraft
Before using a Global Positioning System in a private aircraft, be aware
of the following from "Aviation Daily" newsletter --
July 21, 1997
Problems Cited With Hand-Held GPS Receivers
Aviation Safety Reporting System has received reports from several pilots
who found themselves in trouble using hand-held Global Positioning System
receivers as a sole means of navigation, not just a backup. Pilots who did
not cross-check themselves with VORs wound up on the wrong heading and/or
invading restricted airspace. Hand-held units now in service do not have
the Receiver Autonomous Integrity Monitor that is built into IFR-certified
units.-Aviation Daily
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5)From: "dataFLEX Associates" <dataflex@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: The silent Killing Weapons
This post is in regard to post #10 in Vol 2, Issue #163.
posted by ALANYU <ALANYU@prodigy.net>.
I'd just like to say that this is the biggest crock of sh*t I have
ever seen posted on this list. Do you honestly believe the government
has electronic weapons hidden in lightpoles all over the place?
I really hope we don't see any more crap like this getting into the list.
-Brian
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6)From: mc0298@mail06.mitre.org (Michael Lamarra)
Subject: Is this scanner worth it's asking price?
Pro-2021 desktop
200 channels, VHF, UHF, aircraft, excellent condition. $85
Thanks,
Mike
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7)From: rkidd@localnet.com
Subject: Re: Noah Robischon (EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar)
Noah,
You're kidding, right? Please tell me that you are. We've all seen the
results of the studies on subliminal messages. They don't work.
Microwave frequencies directed at the brian of an individual and the
power and frequency requirements to accomplish this would leave ample
evidence. An autopsy of a "microwave brain attack" would show tissue
damage, cell damage, etc... An MRI would also reveal"dead zones" in the
area targeted. I doubt any MD or specifically a neuro specialist would
miss these damaged and or decayed areas. I may be wrong, but I do have
three clients who are involved in neurosurgery and related research. I
will present this information to them and ask about the results. Any
information I gather I will be happy to share with the group.
Sincerely,
Rick Kidd
Confidential Security Services (CSS)
Association of Counter-Intelligence Professionals (ACIP)
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8)From: Alan & Teresa Greatorex <btida@earthlink.net>
Subject: New reading material
Hi gang,
I'm reading a great book by Chris DeRose, called "In Your Face", the
trouble is that I'm looking for some new reading material, and was
wondering if anyone could recommend some good Spy info books. Even some
good Spy novels, since there's not much to do except work and stay inside
where it's cool.
Alan Yu, I've seen your post's on some alt. or other, and as far as I'm
concerned you have no credibility whatsoever. The kind of people that are
attracted to a lot of these alt. groups are dimwit's in their twenties, who
don't work and should sign themselves loserdruggie.com. In fact, the mind
control stuff is a favorite of a lot of the idiots around here.
There's no need to turn the SpyKing List into another bizarre alt. group,
not to mention taking up valuable space with all that rambling drivel. I'll
believe whatever the G-Man and Frank have to say on this subject, as they
are the ones who are credible; not you. Please head on back to alt.
wherever, and don't let the door hit you in the a*s on your way out.
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9)From: JOHNSGUN@aol.com
Subject: Re: rail gun & my two cents worth
Univ.of Dayton Research Institute & Lab. in Dayton ,Ohio developed a rail gun
that 'shot' a
1cm.sq. missile at 12-15 km/sec ( in near vacuum) and about 5km/sec in 1
atmos.The equipment was large , bulky and VERY dangerous .The EMF playing
havoc with instrumentation was the hard part to solve. This was/is intended
for use in space against ??? maybe c3 sats hmmm? This info came from a
research scientist who works there and dates back 3 years ago . The facility
is located off Wilmington Pike not far from campus .Nothing top secret about
it although the locals don't know about it . ( Dr Pekatowski (sp) headed it )
Something I've noticed that seems not to have been discussed much in
the SL is although devices may the only way at times to gain knowledge under
the circumstances , the BEST source of info and/or leads I've used are PEOPLE
! They love to talk about their lives ,work , problems, etc. if given the
right opportunity . Some personal experiences : I once purchased a pile of
military manuals & in it was a report with drawings, photos , etc.( hand
stamped "TOP SECRET " w/ dire warningsof years in prison and $100,000
penalties)
on the US Space Plane Project- years before it was even hinted at in the
media ; another time a Soviet MIG was loaded into a FTD building ( Foreign
Tech. Div. - at that time the SERIOUS top secret area at WPAFB ), 3 days
later a civilian employee was bragging about it in my store yet only recently
did the Air Force release this 'secret". I also purchased ( unknowingly at
the time) some dewat 23mm rounds from that bird ; once an off duty police
officer revealed in advance the route of President Clinton's motorcade - a
definite security breach ;another time a City employee gave me a copy of an
internal memo stating that Civil service would give oral rather than written
exams for supervisory candidates who were illiterate . This memo came from a
trash can and ended up on the desk of a Dayton Daily News reporter who blew
it open . These and many , many other packets of info were dropped in my
lap all because I would mention something slightly related and let the other
guy play his version of one-upmanship . Many times I've gotten the most
useful info on competition by talking nice about them to my customers who
shop those other places also .Granted , a lot of people come into my store
who work at such places and this town has a lot of Gov't employees and
contractors but my point ( yes if I wore a hat it'd cover it up ) is that key
information came from the horse's mouth and was free , quick and virtually
effortless and saved me hours of work later .
Another fantastic source is the 'social nexus' of ANY group . You know ,
that person who
comes into a new job or group and in 2 weeks knows the job , organization ,
gossip ( hears the boss sneeze before he does), the wheels and everybody's
business yet everyone loves to talk to her/him ? This person also usually
knows the 'nexus' in every group he/she has contact with and will usually
give you info confidentially IF you give up some to them as soon as you get
it - you've just expanded their net. A couple of jobs were saved once ( my
wife's was one of them ) by such a relationship. Most of the ones I've
met are usually secretaries or function as one . Comments or more
advice ?
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10)From: clips@fullergroup.com
Subject: Opto Electronics Scout Response
>I would like some information on the Opto Scout in relation to using it in
>rural to semi-rural environments. Do you have to actually be close enough
>to see the source of transmission for the scout to be effective or is it
>possible to get longer range assuming proper antenna and filters installed.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Richard / N1VXW
I've recently purchased a Scout in Hong Kong and have spent a bit of time
understanding it and talking with the Opto people in Ft Lauderdale.
There are a few things about the Opto Scout to know (based on my
experience anyway- it will only display the locked on frequency when that
frequency is 10% greater than the ambient surroundings. The Scout also
generates its own frequency (about 245 Mhz) from within and this will be
displayed on the Scouts display with the aerial I have. When you begin
to receive a stonger signal (say from a bug) the frequency will move
towards the bugs frequency. If you have FILTER switched on, it might
lock on to the frequency (although you do not have the benefit of seeing
the frequency move towards it)
If the bug/transmitter does not have a precise frequency, but rather
tends to jump about (eg. Do It Yourself Kit Bugs available at your
friendly HK electronics hobby shop for $US3 per set) the Scout will NOT
always lock on to the frequency when in FILTER mode. The gate settings
on the Scout, in my opinion, are not suitable for DIY bugs- at least
those available in HK and you can easily miss the bug- even if the Scout
is sitting on top of it. (This is a function of the Scout's filtering
software- everything to the 2nd decimal place or more. If it detected to
the 1st decimal place the Scout would be "near" perfect for TSCM work.)
However, in scan mode the bargraph of the Scout will increase as you near
the bug. So if you take a test of the outside environment and again when
you enter the target area, you will notice the frequency changes. My
friend, who also debugs here in Hong Kong for a major debugging company
also uses a Scout, but does not use the FILTER on method to detect bugs.
He uses the bargraph. (I might add the Scout is also the first piece of
equipment he turns on when he arrives.)
You also have to consider the antenae being used. The short stubby one
is best around 800MHz. I use an 3' extendable 70 to 1000MHz antenae, but
this is no good for 70MHz or less. Opto Electronics can sell you a
40MHZ antenae, a mid range antennae and an upper frequency antenae, plus
a couple of filters which are NOT suitable for TSCM work as they each
block out a lot of the spectrum. OE also used to produce an amplifier
antenae/booster, but does not any more.
The Scout is very particular about the antenae used. There is no one
antenae that can pick up the entire 40MHz to 1.4 Gig range of signals the
Scout can receive. The distance from the device means little if the
antenae is not tuned to the frequency you wish to receive (unless of
course its a powerful transmitter close enough to the Scout.)
The Scout DOES NOT lock onto digital signals. (eg GSM mobiles). But I am
told will easily lock on to analogue mobile frequencies, taxis etc at a
fair distance. (300' was what I was told.)
There is a very knowlegeable sales manager at Opto Electronics (forgotten
his name) and a technician called Kenny. They are really helpful. Give
them a call. I would also like to know others views on the Scout as I
have described above.
Regards, Scott Fuller.
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11)From: STDTXP01@shsu.edu
Subject: Remote transfer
How can someone transfer other people from a remote computer to another
URL address on the Internet? My friend just did that to me yesterday.
When I was talking to her in one chat room, she transfered me to another
chatroom which have different URL address. Anyone know a trick?
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12)From: "McGregor, James" <mcgregorj@is.cbs.wec.com>
Subject: Caller ID Cloaking
> Answer: There's a number you can enter before you call the actual
> number, that blocks Caller ID. I think it's *63 where I am. Check
> public phones. They usually post it along with all of that info about
> using calling cards, etc. Also, I think Radio Shack sells a device
that
> go in between your phone and the jack that blocks Caller ID for every
> phone call. It's costs about $30, I think.
And do you know what that $30 device does? It dials *67 (nope, not *63)
for you when you pick up the phone, saving you all the time and hassle of
agonizing over the pressing of three little buttons.
Actually, it might be *67. It isn't a nationwide system, it all depends
on the telco. Here in the NE where we have SNET, it's *69. And, all
telco's have a code that will allow you to ID your own #, for instance,
960 here. This allows you to test the integrity of your ID blocking
system. There used to be an 800# that all the HPA people here used, but
it was shut down....
The only anonymous phone is a public pay phone, and maybe not even then.
Definitely not. Why do you think people stopped blue-boxing from public
phones?
Hope this is helpful... JM
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13)From: "McGregor, James" <mcgregorj@is.cbs.wec.com>
Subject: Re: EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar
Said to be capable of corrupting computer circuitry on corporate netw=
orks with ionizing radiation, microwaves or radio waves, the EMP gun
stri=
kes from afar even as secretaries labor at their desks.
The only sticking point is that no one has actually produced one for
=
public examination.
Um.., actually the US Gov. already has. Inadvertantly that is. The only
reason we even know about the theory is due to the fact that our nuclear
test created EMP pulses. Ergo, it is quite possible to create an EMP
"gun".
JM
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14)From: "McGregor, James" <mcgregorj@is.cbs.wec.com>
Subject: Re: Address from Phone Number
How can I get a phone number from just the street address? The phone
company is not very cooperative.
So, get their help WITHOUT asking. Every telco has a number for their
operatives to call and get phone numbers from street addresses. Now, all
you need to do is find the number. (I've gotten that far with mine) Then
you just need to figure out one of the codes. (I'm too lazy to try.)
Good luck (you'll need it) -JM
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15)From: Manatau <boss@vegas.infi.net>
Subject: Am looking for a partner
Am looking for a partner to set up a GPS system in Vegas. R. Thomas is
not interested.
if you have a simular system and are interested in forming a partnership
i have the clients if you have the system.
Thanks
K.C.
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16)From: Bob Waller <exfire@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Infrared Plastic?
Some time back someone posted information on a "plastic" that would
filter light below 880 - 900 nm(approx). I believe it was thick like
glass. The purpose was to build an I.R. illuminator.
If you know of such a product, please post it here.
I know that commercial I.R. units are available, but they won't work for
this application.
Thanks
Bob
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17)From: Randy Prefer <mackie@rmi.net>
Subject: Re: Caller ID
I think I can make someone do something real easy! Does anyone know of
software I can run which I can connect a callerid to my own modem direct
and put in some bogus info, so it will look like a real call had come
in. Like "Ronald Regan" XXX-XXX-XXXX?
thanks
Randyp@usa.net
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18)From: "Lee Maben" <maben@msn.com>
Subject: Re: The Surveillance List Forum
Hi there
I seemed to have stopped getting the list, is this because you have taken my
name off, or is there somthething wrong my end ?
Regards
Leem
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01) Re: EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar
02) Re: caller ID cloaking
03) Virii?
04) IR Filtering Plastic
05) Re: EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar
06) Re: File erasure!
07) Radio Shack Model 60
08) CODEX?
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1)From: "John K." <johnk@gj.net>
Subject: Re: EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar
> Said to be capable of corrupting computer circuitry on corporate netw=
> orks with ionizing radiation, microwaves or radio waves, the EMP gun
> strikes from afar even as secretaries labor at their desks.
> The only sticking point is that no one has actually produced one for
> public examination.
>
> Um.., actually the US Gov. already has. Inadvertantly that is. The only
> reason we even know about the theory is due to the fact that our nuclear
> test created EMP pulses. Ergo, it is quite possible to create an EMP
> "gun".
>
> JM
>
Anyone truely interested in this get a copy of Information Warfare, it
runs about $17 and has over 700 pages of pretty interesting
information. Including the best write I have found so far on EMP/HERF.
Make sure it is the second edition one released in 1996. Check out
http://www.infowar.com which is the author's site if you want a sample
of some of the info. And no I do not receive anything for posting this,
just tired of running into brick walls about Herf and Van Eck so I am
posting an actual resource for the rest of you who are as tired as
myself.
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2)From: strider@mail2.quiknet.com
Subject: Re: caller ID cloaking
A few corections. I don't mean to be rude, I just don't want anyone
to get a little mis-information. Nobody every blue boxed of pay
phones to my knowledge. People stopped blue boxing because it does
not work with the updated telco equipment. Blue boxing was never
designed for pay phones. In fact it was designed (I think) bye the
people that later built appel to gain free long distance call by
using a 2600hz (I think it's hz I doubt it's mhz, I have never built
one) signal. People red boxed of pay phones, and still do. The plans
for a red box are available all over the net. Another, sneakier, more
ILLEGAL (ie do NOT do this just theoritical information for
education) way to gain aononimity would be to buold a beige box
(again I will not post the plans because they are readily available
and bulky). This device allows oyu to "borrow" someone elses phone
line. This device can be used anywhere you can find exposed phone
lines (condo complexes, apratmeant complexes etc...). You are
completely corect about these so-called caller ID blocking devices.
They do nothing. I remember a discussion in some news group about
building a "real" caller ID blocking box. Aparently the phone company
ID's you before the dial tone even ocours, and it is (to my limitted
knowledge) impossible to fake your phone# without using an 800 or 900
number to bounce off. Some companys to provide services for people
who like to remain anonymous, but I think they are expensive.
> 12)From: "McGregor, James" <mcgregorj@is.cbs.wec.com>
> Subject: Caller ID Cloaking
> And do you know what that $30 device does? It dials *67 (nope, not *63)
> for you when you pick up the phone, saving you all the time and hassle of
> agonizing over the pressing of three little buttons.
>
> Actually, it might be *67. It isn't a nationwide system, it all depends
> on the telco. Here in the NE where we have SNET, it's *69. And, all
> telco's have a code that will allow you to ID your own #, for instance,
> 960 here. This allows you to test the integrity of your ID blocking
> system. There used to be an 800# that all the HPA people here used, but
> it was shut down....
>
> The only anonymous phone is a public pay phone, and maybe not even then.
>
> Definitely not. Why do you think people stopped blue-boxing from public
> phones?
>
> Hope this is helpful... JM
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3)From: "Christian Aldrin Wikstrøm" <wikstrom@get2net.dk>
Subject: Virii?
I'm looking a site where i can find vira.
By the way. If there are anyone who can tell me where I can get programs to
encrypt my mail, please write to me.
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4)From: flashy <flashy@InfoAve.Net>
Subject: IR Filtering Plastic
This is in regards to Bob Waller's question on where to find infrared
filtering plastic. That product is available from Information Unlimited,
call 800-221-1705 for catalog, or www.amazing1.com on the web.
Brian
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5)From: Kevin <kevin@innet.com>
Subject: Re: EMP Gun: The Chupacabras of Infowar
>Um.., actually the US Gov. already has. Inadvertantly that is. The only
>reason we even know about the theory is due to the fact that our nuclear
>test created EMP pulses. Ergo, it is quite possible to create an EMP
>"gun".
Sure, it's possible, but you'd need to have the equivelant of a nuclear
bomb in order to use it. Unless you're someone with a VERY large budget
and have access to nuclear weapons, this probably isn't the best little
"toy" to try and make.
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6)From: Kevin <kevin@innet.com>
Subject: Re: File erasure!
>3)From: "Tim Hill" <tlhill@ihug.co.nz>
>Subject: Re: File erasure!
>
>Hi,
> Just a thought. For those of you still using DOS , the command DELTREE
>has an option to suppress the comfirmation line,
>
> Thus "deltree /y \" would produce interisting results !!!
>
> I havent Tried this though !!!!
>
>
> Tim Hill
Tim, this is old stuff actually and the average teenager would know the
command by heart :) For a better result, redirecting it to nul would be
better. That way, it would suppress the output of it as well. To do this,
simply include a "> nul" at the end up of the statement. Have fun <s>
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7)From: sgordon <sgordon@icx.net>
Subject: Radio Shack Model 60
Radio Shack Model 60.
What frequency range does this model have. Can it be modified/enhanced.
What is a used unit worth.
Thanks!
Steve
sgordon@icx.net
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8)From: Tim Hyde <thyde@cococo.net>
Subject: CODEX?
I'm looking for info on the FBI's data base called C.O.D.E.X. It's a
data base of DNA samples from all over the country. Any info would be
greatly appreciated.
I also have a web site dealing on some aspects of "Big Brother"
http://www.cococo.net/~thyde
Thanks
Tim
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01) Re: Virii?
02) Wondering if it is a scam?
03) Re: Caller ID Cloaking
04) Re: IR Plastic
05) Diverting
06) Parlor trick?
07) Mail encryption to (wikstrom@get2net.dk)
08) TSCM NYC?
09) How safe is?
10) Blue Boxing
11) Re: Caller ID cloaking
12) Re: Address from Phone Number
13) FBI info request
14) Re: File erasure
15) Re: Caller ID cloaking
16) Investigators Needed Nationwide
17) The Surveillance List Forum
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1)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: Re: Virii?
> I'm looking a site where i can find vira.
Check out Chiba City at http://www.chibacity.com/chiba/vrc.html
> By the way. If there are anyone who can tell me where I can get programs to
> encrypt my mail, please write to me.
Check out the encryption page on my site at
http://www.dynanet.com/~wieland/ww-crypt.htm . You can use PGP v5.0
Freeware to encrypt your email. The URL to the International Version
when it's ready and the MIT Version if you just can't wait and live in
the US is on that encryption page. PGP v5.0 requires Win95/WinNT, so if
you're still using Win31, PGP v2.6.2g is the best you can get.
-WW
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2)From: Amanda8@aol.com
Subject: Wondering if it is a scam?
Just got the message below and was wondering if it is a scam. It seems to be
going around so I thought someone out their in surveilance land could check
it. out.
Thanks
Amanda8@aol.com
Night Eyes Information Brokers
Avon, NJ
Subj: Re: FREE CABLE TV
Date: 97-07-26 23:18:57 EDT
From: Free@argus.interwebco.com
Build your own Cable Television Descrambler with ONLY 7 parts
from Radio Shack for UNDER $12.00.
Required Supplies:
1 - Radio Shack mini-box (part #270-235)
1 - 1/4 watt resistor. 2.2k-2.4k ohm (part #271-1325)
1 - 75pf-100pf variable capacitor (special order)
2 - F61A chassis-type connectors (part #278-212)
12" - No. 12 solid copper wire
12" - RG59 coaxial cable
Tools required: screwdriver & drill. Soldering gun & solder (optional).
Get ALL the Premium Movie Channels, Pay per View and Adult Entertainment
Channels for... FREE, FREE, FREE !!!
Now, if I have your attention... let me tell you how this fantastic
opportunity came about.
My name is Sam. I live outside Chicago, Il. I have season
tickets to our city's hockey team. I invited a friend of mine to one
of the games this last November.
He said, "I'd love to go if you can have me back home by 10:00 p.m." I
told him that some games run just past 10:00 p.m. and would he mind we
stay if the game was close.
His response was, "No, tonight is the Mike Tyson - Evander Holyfield
boxing match and I have it on pay per view" I said, "do you mind if I
watch the fight with you"? He said, "sure, no problem". So we go watch
this great fight on cable pay per view and we are the only two guys at
my friends house.
After the fight (since it was so good) I offered to pay half of the cost
for the fight. My friends anwser was, "no, no, that's not necessary...
I got the fight for FREE!". I said to him, "for free, don't those fights
cost around $40.00 a pop?" He told me, "yes, they do, but I bought a
cable descrambler box from an acquaintance of mine for $300.00".
He further explained that this "little black box" gets ALL the pay per
view events available! It also tunes in ALL the premium movie channels
and ALL the adult entertainment channels.
My response (without hesitation) was, "I gotta have one!" "$300.00, no
problem where do I pay !!!" I'm serious, I was excited. Lifetime
premium movie channels, pay per view and adult entertainment all for a
one-time fee of $300.00... no way!!!
"No way" was right. The guy that sold my buddy the box was no where to
be found. I was really disappointed. It was now time for desperate
measures. I begged and pleaded with my friend until he agreed to let me
take his box apart piece by piece to see how to make one for myself.
Luckily it was very easy, if it wasn't simple I knew their was a slight
chance it was not going back together so pretty.
Now the rest is history... I've got my own box which I built with my own
two hands.
Would you like to build one yourself ?!?!
If so, would you pay $300.00. Maybe so, maybe not. Probably not, unless
you saw one work first. But since that is not possible, I will sell you
a complete set of instructions on how to build one yourself for a measly
$10.00. However, at that price YOU MUST ALSO ENCLOSE A #10 SELF ADDRESSED
STAMPED ENVELOPE WITH 32 CENTS POSTAGE AFFIXED.
You might ask, is this some type of rip-off scam deal. The answer is NO!
Everything has specific mechanics of how and why they do what they do.
We are just used to flipping a switch or pushing a button or moving the
mouse across our computer pads. It all happens because of a certain set
of processes. The cable television descrambler is no different.
However, for legal purposes I must add to this letter that this offer and
set of instructions shall be void where prohibited by law and the
assembling of parts necessary to make this "little jewel" work is for
educational purposes only.
To order a set of the instructions send $10.00 by cash, or money
order, NO CHECKS, payable to: Sam Merrill. Send to: P.O. Box 429,
Fox Lake, IL. 60020
I will mail your order out within 24 hours of receiving it.
Have a great 1997 !!!
Sincerely,
Sam Merrill
P.S.: The experimental use of this box if you choose to see if your
creation works requires no alteration of your existing cable system.
You simply screw it in, right behind your television.
P.P.S.: Without the instructions it's like figuring out how to set the
clock on your VCR. With the instructions, you are guaranteed success.
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3)From: "Robert C. Casas Ph.D." <rcc@comsecltd.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID Cloaking
>12)From: "McGregor, James" <mcgregorj@is.cbs.wec.com>
>Subject: Caller ID Cloaking
>And do you know what that $30 device does? It dials *67 (nope, not *63)
>for you when you pick up the phone, saving you all the time and hassle of
>agonizing over the pressing of three little buttons.
I agree that there is nothing sophisticated about these devices and
they only duplicate what you can do manually. Their value is that they
do it every time you open a line and you don't have to remember
to do it yourself. Your paying $30-$50 for this convenience which
isn't bad in my opinion, especially if you regularly use a phone line
& number you do not want others to identify using standard caller ID
services.
Since when is paying for convenience a bad thing? <g>
If you want to be derisive, direct it at the local telcos that
offer to sell you unlisted numbers but refuse to offer you automatic
caller ID blocking. They are the ones that make such devices a
convenience.
-rc
______________________________________________________________________
Robert C. Casas, Ph.D., COMSEC Ltd., Computer Security & Data Recovery
Telephone: 847-729-3565 FAX: 847-729-3575 On CompuServe: GO COMSEC
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4)From: andrewa@indirect.com
Subject: Re: IR Plastic
Try this - I know it makes a good IR filter.
Buy a roll of film (35mm), then take it to a place to get it developed
(don't take any pics with it), and tell the guy what you are doing, so
the lab isn't confused (it is even better if the machine or lab is right
there). The film makes a great IR filter afterward. Also check the
negatives of film you have lying around, you may get lucky toward the
end of the roll. I am not sure if this is in the wavelength region you
mentioned, but it is worth a try! Good luck...
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5)From: Luna Chiu <chiulh@me.udel.edu>
Subject: Diverting
I was pondering the different ways one could divert his/her calls. That
is, using a means that'll mask your real number from the person or company
being called. By masking, I'm talking about having a different number
covering yours--which is called "diverting" I believe--correct me if I'm
wrong.
Would calling the operator (0) and asking her to dial the target's number
not effectively mask the phone line being used? Just how effective is it?
Obviously, the phone carrier will have a record of the call, but what are
the means of the company/person summonning that information? What legal
authority does it take to get that information?
Luna
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6)From: Chris Nangle <nangle@planet.eon.net>
Subject: Parlor trick?
Great newsletter. I don't know alot of info on internet security, but
someone who is might consider checking out the page:
http://cia.ml.org/whiteboy/main.html and choosing the link 'New Warez
Site for Netscape Users'. When this link is used YOUR hard drive files
are shown. I don't know if this is a "parlor trick" or another security
problem with Netscape Communicator 4.01 (which is what I am using).
Chris
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7)From: DKeller102@aol.com
Subject: Mail encryption to (wikstrom@get2net.dk)
>>>>
I'm looking a site where i can find vira.
By the way. If there are anyone who can tell me where I can get programs to
encrypt my mail, please write to me.
RE: Encrypt mail. Vol #2 issue 165 July 28, 1997
<<<<
To Christian Aldrin Wikstr0m:
There are many small, but effective, encryption programs. Many of them have
been around for years and are either freeware or shareware.
All you have to do is make sure the reciepient of your mail has the same
program and then run the mail with the same secret letter code on both sides.
Also most of the Wordprocessors have the ability to encrypt the files and
all you would have to do is make sure your receiver had the same program so
that the mail could be run through on both sides.
Don K
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8)From: EWW2000@aol.com
Subject: TSCM NYC?
I have a client who requires the services of a high end ECM sweep tech in the
NYC area. Can anyone recommend an appropriate party for this type of
operation. Thank you.
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9)From: "markaveli pac" <markaveli2pac@hotmail.com>
Subject: How safe is?
How safe is the using of the at&t calling card # generator, has
anyone used it B4, if so does it work ? and if it work would you know
the 800# you have to call to make the call...
.
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10)From: Trace Carpenter <trace@onramp.net>
Subject: Blue Boxing
>People stopped blue boxing because it does
>not work with the updated telco equipment.
You can still blue box. Nuf said.
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11)From: phreaker@technologist.com
Subject: Re: caller ID cloaking
FYI -
1. Blue boxes ALWAYS work from any phone which can access long-lines
and were designed to work from pay phones. If one were to use a blue
box from a home or office phone line, you better expect a visit from
Telco security real soon. You generally dial an 800 number and push the
break-tone button after it connects and before it rings. Pay phones are
the only locations that are halfway safe to use blue boxes and they
aren't very safe anymore. The Telcos can detect a a break tone from a
non-long-lines operator. All blue boxes use tones designated for
long-lines operators. Don't try using a blue box unless you are very
good and or very dumb. I suggest not.
The 2600Hz tone (the same frequency as Captain Crunch whistles) breaks
tone in the long-lines system. Once this has been achieved, it is then
possible to move throughout the long-lines system. All you need is the
codes for access to the various centers and how you want to vector the
call. You need not only the 0-9 tones but the 2600Hz and the two tones
known as P and S. All the tones are combinations of frequencies which
are evenly divisible by 100 and run from 700Hz to 1700Hz and the 2600Hz
break tone.
While the blue box is interesting for historical purposes, its time,
especially in the US, is past. The Apple Steves (J & W) seem to want to
take credit for inventing the blue box. They say they did it to finance
the first Apple computer. They are to be congradulated for inventing
the first practical home computer but why would they want to take credit
for something they didn't do. Blue boxes were in wide use at least 5
years before they say they invented them. Bob Cummings and Ike Turner
were charged with using blue boxes before the Apple Steves say they
invented them. My compliments to Captain Crunch, Iglecias, Jordan,
Draper, David, Alex, etc.
The description of the red box is basically correct.
You forgot to mention the black box. It prevents the local CO from
detecting the fact that the phone instrument, to which black box is
attached, has been answered. Therefore, no billing or CO taps are
triggered. If the phone company thinks you have one it zaps the line
with a high-voltage (>1000V) which does the black box components no
good. In its day, now past, all long distance, pay phone, and message
unit calls were free to the caller. It appeared as if the callee had an
800 number.
As for your beige box, try a couple of alligator clips to any phone line
powered telephone.
Using a box to dial *67 only makes your call anonymous. If the person
you are calling has Anonymous Call Rejection, you won't get through. If
you really want to make it anonymous, use a pay phone (one call per
phone).
P
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12)From: Marcus Blankenship <MarcusB@JELD-WEN.com
Subject: Re: Address from Phone Number
> Your looking for what is called a CNA, Customer Name and Address,
> service from the Telco. I suggest looking at the alt.2600 faq (don't
> go to the newsgroup, find it on the web), or hit some phreak sites. I
> know the alt.2600 faq tries to keep a pretty good list of them.
>
> I 'spose you could read alt.2600 for a week or so, and post your
> reqest, but I doubt you'll get any response.
>
> Marcus Blankenship Jeld-Wen, Inc
> Application Developer 541-882-3451
> marcusb@jeld-wen.com www.jeld-wen.com
>
> It worked a minute ago....
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13)From: fthome@amug.org (Alex Thome)
Subject: FBI info request
Hi all, I was wondering where and how I could find out what the FBI knows
about me or if they even have a file on me. Who knows. More than that, is
it true that any person under the freedom of information act (or whatever)
can request a copy of this file?
Aley
a.k.a Shadow Runner
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14)From: strider@mail2.quiknet.com
Subject: Re: file erasure
I hate corecting people (especially sense their is a dang good
chance I am wrong), but I hate mis information even more. He was
talking about using deltree on a dos machine, dos does not allow you
to pipe the outp[ut of commands like unix. In unix you could use rm
-rf / >/dev/nul but in does, as far as I know > will do absolutely
nothing. Anyway this type of actions is destructive at best.
> Tim, this is old stuff actually and the average teenager would know the
> command by heart :) For a better result, redirecting it to nul would be
> better. That way, it would suppress the output of it as well. To do this,
> simply include a "> nul" at the end up of the statement. Have fun <s>
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15)From: Mutter <mutter@openix.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID cloaking
> A few corections. I don't mean to be rude, I just don't want anyone
> to get a little mis-information. Nobody every blue boxed of pay
Same here.
> phones to my knowledge. People stopped blue boxing because it does
'fraid not. Payphones were the safest places to bluebox from (and still
are). Even when ESS was still confined to a few selected areas, blueboxing
from your home phone line and talking for long amounts of time was
considered dangerous (Gee, Bill Average just made another 45 minute call
to information. Interesting...).
> not work with the updated telco equipment. Blue boxing was never
Despite popular belief the activity is alive (just much harder).
> designed for pay phones. In fact it was designed (I think) bye the
ummm.
> people that later built appel to gain free long distance call by
heh, Steve Woz and Steve Jobs used to make money by selling blue boxes on
the side (shows you just what kind of 'criminals' these phone phreaks
were, eh?).
Oh and btw, you should read a little more on the subject ... it allowed
one to do much more than make 'free long distance' calls.
> using a 2600hz (I think it's hz I doubt it's mhz, I have never built
hz.
> one) signal. People red boxed of pay phones, and still do. The plans
> for a red box are available all over the net. Another, sneakier, more
The difference was the majority of blue boxers had an interest in the
inner-workings of the phone system and did so to explore what the Bell
system would rather they not know about. Red boxers are mostly people with
little interest in anything other than making a free phone call.
> ILLEGAL (ie do NOT do this just theoritical information
for > education) way to gain aononimity would be to buold a beige box
> (again I will not post the plans because they are readily available
> and bulky). This device allows oyu to "borrow" someone elses phone
bulky?! Attach a pair of alligator clips to the wires in one end of a
phone cord, plug into phone. There. You have a beige box.
Now that wasn't so bulky, was it?
> line. This device can be used anywhere you can find exposed phone
> lines (condo complexes, apratmeant complexes etc...). You are
> completely corect about these so-called caller ID blocking devices.
> They do nothing. I remember a discussion in some news group about
> building a "real" caller ID blocking box. Aparently the phone company
> ID's you before the dial tone even ocours, and it is (to my limitted
> knowledge) impossible to fake your phone# without using an 800 or 900
> number to bounce off. Some companys to provide services for people
> who like to remain anonymous, but I think they are expensive.
There are various ways to hide caller-id info. You're right in that most
will require calling a third number. Just dial *67 - that's what it's
there for (every place that has caller-id must have a *67 type service).
And if someone has call block block (or whatever it's called)
just keep around a prepaid calling card for those rare situations or
(better yet) just write a letter ...
- M u t t e r
Ed. root zine
(http://www.openix.com/~mutter)
mutter@openix.com
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16)From: PI12900@aol.com
Subject: Investigators Needed Nationwide
ATTENTON LICENSED PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS.
Earn good money working commercial braodcast suvrveillance assigment.
Pay-Per-View boxing braodcast event, Thursday, August, 7, 1997. Middleweight
Championship Fight, Roy Jones, Jr., v. Montell Griffin., 9:00 PM (EST).
For details contact:
Richard Harris, P.I.
Eastbay Detective Agency
Oakland, CA.
1-800-563-1707/Fax 510-535-0331
http:www.quikpage.com/E/eastbayda
CA. Lic. #PI12900
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17)From: EMICHAELS1@aol.com
Subject: The Surveillance List Forum
Please add me to your mailing list.
I have over twenty five years in Public Safety, Law Enforcement, Private
Security, Survellance and Investigation. This included security consultation,
planning and operations in over four hundred strikes and labor disputes.
I have been sent forwards of your forum, by a colleague who Kevin Murray
forwards it to.
My colleague suggests that you review the forum input and use it to steal
clients. As such my colleague does not desire to be on your mailing list. To
that I say business is business and have to my colleague to "pet your
paranoids and play with your mental blocks".
Ed
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Secure attache case?
02) I.R. Plastic Revisited
03) Dormant Swiss Bank Accounts
04) Re: File erasure
05) Closeout Item Offered PHILIPS High Resolution 1/2" B/W CCD Camera Module
06) Holographic overlays
07) Re: FBI files
08) Re: File erasure
09) Re: FBI info request
10) Re: Wondering if it is a scam?
11) Re: Encryption
12) Re: file erasure
13) Re: file erasure
14) Re: FBI info request
15) British Phone Directory
16) Re: Parlor Trick
17) Can you tell if an Engaged Tone is...?
18) Re: Wondering if it is a scam?
19) Re: Parlor Trick
20) Re: Caller ID cloaking
21) Pagers
22) Scanners in UK
23) Several birds with one stone...
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1)From: DesertVSP@aol.com
Subject: Secure attache case?
When speaking on security, could you help me in finding a source for security
Attache Case with built-in elecric shocker (stun gun) and a siren. I have
seen such product and I do have interested clients in Europe. If you can
supply such equipment please give me all the info on price and delivery time.
What other specialy equiped attache cases you can offer ?
Best regards
Peter Phillips
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2)From: Bob Waller <exfire@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: I.R. Plastic Revisited
First, let me say thanks to all that responded to my original request.
While the suggestions were good, none use the product that was once
listed in this forum.
Again, this is a sheet plastic material(similar to a thin glass pane)
that will pass only IR light.
Over the last week I have contacted every plastic, glass and photo
materials shop I could find with no luck. Most said "Let me know what
you find out."
Thanks again for your input and help
Bob
+++Moderator's Note+++
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fj
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3)From: SpyKing@thecodex.com
Subject: Dormant Swiss Bank Accounts
Checkout: http://www.dormantaccounts.ch/
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4)From: Ben Norman <bnorman@kent.edu>
Subject: Re: File erasure
Can't argue with you about the destructive part, but the previous
poster was correct about redirecting output in MSDOS. While the dos
shell is not as powerful as, say csh or bash, there is still some
primitive redirection. You can redirect output to any file, or to "prn"
(printer), "nul" (null device), or "con" (console), maybe more. As
stated, appending "> nul" to the end of a command results in no console
output. (I just tried it to make sure; that's always a good idea:) )
strider@mail2.quiknet.com wrote:
> He was
> talking about using deltree on a dos machine, dos does not allow you
> to pipe the outp[ut of commands like unix. In unix you could use rm
> -rf / >/dev/nul but in does, as far as I know > will do absolutely
> nothing. Anyway this type of actions is destructive at best.
Take care,
Ben
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5)From: John Palmeri <sales@rock2000.com>
Subject: Closeout Item Offered PHILIPS High Resolution 1/2" B/W CCD Camera Module
Closeout Item Offered
PHILIPS / VC 325050
High Resolution 1/2" B/W CCD Camera Module
$25 to $75 Each
Rock House Products is offering 750 to 780 of these Camera Modules, new
and in the original unopened package. Camera includes full instruction
sheet, specification sheet, protective cover for CCD element and bracket to
support folded camera module. Power supply sold separately.
The entire stock (750-780) is being offered at a cost of $25.00 US each plus
shipping.
The cost is $75.00 US each for small quantities. (Please contact us for larger
quantity pricing.)
Specifications and image can be viewed at:
http://www.rock2000.com/closeout/vc325050.htm
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sales@rock2000.com
Phone +01-914-692-4077
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Visa & MasterCard are Accepted
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6)From: Jim Markitell <jmarkitell@iristech.com>
Subject: Holographic overlays
I am looking for pre made holographic overlays to be incorporated into a
private ID type badge, so the end result would be a ID badge with a
holographic se-thru symbol. When the final product is laminated, it
would make it easy to spot any tampering, since the holograph would most
lokely be damaged in the process. Anyone have any sources? Anything that
looks semi- official would suffice.
Jim Markitell
IRIS Technologies
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7)From: Glenn B <spytron@magic.mb.ca>
Subject: Re: FBI files
http://www.glr.com/fbi.html
This is where to get a form to receive your FBI files. Have a look at
the page too. Very interesting stuff by Glenn Roberts.
http://www.glr.com/glr.html
This is the main front page. Enjoy!
Glenn Beauregard
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8)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: File erasure
> I hate corecting people (especially sense their is a dang good
> chance I am wrong), but I hate mis information even more. He was
> talking about using deltree on a dos machine, dos does not allow you
> to pipe the outp[ut of commands like unix. In unix you could use rm
> -rf / >/dev/nul but in does, as far as I know > will do absolutely
> nothing. Anyway this type of actions is destructive at best.
You certainly can pipe and redirect in DOS. Want to chuck the current
tiem and date into a file named test.txt? Do this:
echo echo|more|date|find ",">test.txt
And BTW/FYI, DOS uses "nul" whereas UNIX (at least every UNIX I've dealt
with) uses "null."
CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
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9)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: FBI info request
> Hi all, I was wondering where and how I could find out what the FBI
> knows about me or if they even have a file on me. Who knows. More than
> that, is it true that any person under the freedom of information act
> (or whatever) can request a copy of this file?
Allegedly, you have the right to get a copy of your file. Be advised that
I've seen people wait two years after requesting it and still receive
nothing, though. And that's not to mention that the FBI can probably pull
whatever they deem necessary to pull out of your file before sending it
your way. If you still want to waste your time, check out this URL:
http://www.interactivism.com/docs/FBI.html
CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
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10)From: CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Wondering if it is a scam?
> Just got the message below and was wondering if it is a scam. It seems
> to be going around so I thought someone out their in surveilance land
> could check it. out.
> Thanks
> Amanda8@aol.com
> Night Eyes Information Brokers
> Avon, NJ
>
> Subj: Re: FREE CABLE TV
> Date: 97-07-26 23:18:57 EDT
> From: Free@argus.interwebco.com
>
> Build your own Cable Television Descrambler with ONLY 7 parts
> from Radio Shack for UNDER $12.00.
<snip song and dance>
To answer your question, yes. This type of descrambler isn't going to
work on any modern-day CATV system, especially one in a city like Chicago.
CrACKeD <cracked@primenet.com>
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11)From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>
Subject: Re: Encryption
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>>
>I'm looking a site where i can find vira.
>By the way. If there are anyone who can tell me where I can get programs
>to encrypt my mail, please write to me.
>RE: Encrypt mail. Vol #2 issue 165 July 28, 1997
><<<<
>To Christian Aldrin Wikstr0m:
>There are many small, but effective, encryption programs. Many of them
>have been around for years and are either freeware or shareware.
>All you have to do is make sure the reciepient of your mail has the same
>program and then run the mail with the same secret letter code on both
>sides.
> Also most of the Wordprocessors have the ability to encrypt the files
>and all you would have to do is make sure your receiver had the same
>program so that the mail could be run through on both sides.
***DO NOT USE WORDPROCESSOR ENCRYPTION***
The encryption included in products like MS Word, WP, PKZIP and other
desktop programs are not secure. The majority of them can be broken in a
matter of minuets.
If you plan on sending encrypted e-mail there is only one program to use
and that is PGP. It is free, secure, and has been in use for several years
now. The source code for PGP has withstood the scrutiny of many
cryptologist & data security experts and has not been found wanting.
Because of this it has become the de-facto standard for e-mail encryption.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii
Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0
Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice
PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail.
OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
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12)From: Kevin <kevin@innet.com>
Subject: Re: file erasure
>>>I hate corecting people (especially sense their is a dang good
chance I am wrong)<<<
You said it, not me <g>
>>>talking about using deltree on a dos machine, dos does not allow you
to pipe the outp[ut of commands like unix. In unix you could use rm
-rf / >/dev/nul but in does, as far as I know > will do absolutely
nothing. Anyway this type of actions is destructive at best.<<<
<cough, cough> You wouldn't happen to be on a MAC, now would you? ;) Yes,
DOS *DOES* allow piping outputs.... For instance, if you echo some text
and redirect it to prn, it would send it to the printer. Reidrecting to
con, sends it to the screen... Before trying to correct others, make sure
you indeed know what you're talking about <g>
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13)From: "dataFLEX Associates" <dataflex@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: file erasure
> I hate corecting people (especially sense their is a dang good
> chance I am wrong), but I hate mis information even more. He was
> talking about using deltree on a dos machine, dos does not allow you
> to pipe the outp[ut of commands like unix. In unix you could use rm
> -rf / >/dev/nul but in does, as far as I know > will do absolutely
> nothing. Anyway this type of actions is destructive at best.
I hate to tell you, but you were wrong. :)
Dos has similar piping commands to unix.
deltree \ /y > nul, would delete basically
everything, and supress the output of the
command. The two basic pipes in dos are > and >>
echo Hello! > file.txt would make a new file
containing 'Hello!'. echo Hello Again! >> file.txt
would create a new file, and each time it was
done, would append to the end of the file. =)
Hope this makes sense,
-Brian
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14)From: Kevin <kevin@innet.com>
Subject: Re: FBI info request
>>>Hi all, I was wondering where and how I could find out what the FBI knows
about me or if they even have a file on me. Who knows. More than that, is
it true that any person under the freedom of information act (or whatever)
can request a copy of this file?<<<
Hey, Shadow :) Yes, it is possible to use the Freedom of Information Act
to see what they have on you, but why bother? I mean, most times, it would
cost you money to have the process it all and everything (unless you've got
a real good excuse). Besides, if they didn't have anythign on you, don't
you think that asking for the info could make them more suspicious? Hehe.
Trust me, I doubt you have anythign to worry about from the FBI, you're too
paranoid <g> Oh, and if you were trying to get info to see if they knew
about your "activities", don't bother. If they are investigating you, they
wouldn't send information telling you that <s> Good luck and I'll see you
on TDL sometime
-Phoenix
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15)From: Roger Stevenson <RogerStevenson@compuserve.com>
Subject: British Phone Directory
I have a " British Telecom UK Telephone Directory " on CD-Rom, which gives
me phone nos. providing
that I supply (1) A Name, & , (2) An address. Which is fine.
But what would be really helpfull is some way of maybe running the Database
the other way, Like--
Supplying a phone nos. and getting the name & address back.
Anyone have any info or ideas --- I know that having someone at British
Telecom would be one way, but
trhis would be -- so much quicker-- no
Any thoughts?
I can be mailed off list at : RogerStevenson@compuserve.com
Regards,
Roger.
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16)From: Kevin <kevin@innet.com>
Subject: Re: Parlor Trick
>>>
Great newsletter. I don't know alot of info on internet security, but
someone who is might consider checking out the page:
http://cia.ml.org/whiteboy/main.html and choosing the link 'New Warez
Site for Netscape Users'. When this link is used YOUR hard drive files
are shown. I don't know if this is a "parlor trick" or another security
problem with Netscape Communicator 4.01 (which is what I am using).
<<<
This sin't hard to do. It's most likely just a link to:
file:///c:/
That does NOT let the website see your files, it just shows YOU what's
there. It's simple to do really..
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17)From: Sonice <sunshade@usa.net>
Subject: Can you tell if an Engaged Tone is...?
Hello!
If you call a number in the USA, and can't get through.
Can you tell from the tone whether the other party is engaged in another
call or he/she has taken the phone off the hook?
If the system is different in each state then I'd like to know the
situation in Califorina and/or Florida.
TIA
Sonice
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18)From: WindWalker <WindWalker@peacefire.org>
Subject: Re: Wondering if it is a scam?
I'm willing to bet it is a scam or just very old, most/all of those $10
kits are. Cable companies a long time ago used to put (RF?) noise into
premium channels so that you couldn't watch it unless you paid for it
and all the devices did was filter out that noise so that you could
watch the channel. Now a days the channels are genuinely scrambled and
there's a card inside your cable box programmed to what the cable
company is allowing you to view and what your not, the only way to get
free premium channels like that is to buy a cable box with a testcard (a
card used by cable technicians that is programmed with all channels
"on", used in diagnostic work) in it (about $300), or if you're feeling
adventurous and are ok at electronics (if you can upgrade your PC, you
could probably do this) you can buy just the test card to replace the
one in your current cable box. More info at
http://www.scramblingnews.com/ .
-WW
--
"Sure, we have order, but at what price?" ICQ UIN 1430880.
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19)From: Marcus Blankenship <MarcusB@JELD-WEN.com>
Subject: Re: Parlor Trick
probably about as tricky as
file:///C|/
Parlor Trick. Definately. Definately.
Marcus Blankenship Jeld-Wen, Inc
Application Developer 541-882-3451
marcusb@jeld-wen.com www.jeld-wen.com
It worked a minute ago....
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20)From: "McGregor, James" <mcgregorj@is.cbs.wec.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID cloaking
Now, Phreaker, thanks because those were my sentiments exactly. Blue
boxing is very possible, just very dangerous. And Captain Crunch
Whistles are still available (and very concealable...) Also, red-boxing
no longer works in many places. Due to the increases in telco tech, such
as the (relatively) new Mars2 system, red-boxing is slowly being made
obsolete. In this system, the handset it automatically muted the coins
drop. Therefore, tones cannot be used to simulate coin drop, even with
long distance calls. The only possible way to overcome this is by using
a lineman's set directly on the line and redboxing that. Significant
amounts of testing having been done here in southern new england. Of
course, if you're one of the lucky ones in the back-woods of Maine who
still has SxS phone service ......
Oh, and regarding blue boxing, as Mutter said, this is not just another
way to get free phone calls. When you have full operator control, their
are MUCH more fun things to do...
JM
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21)From: "Venom x" <xvenom@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pagers
I have just bought a pager from Vodafone called the Vodazap. Does anyone
know how to intercept pager messages or how to do anything interesting
with pagers?
If so get back to me.
Thanks
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22)From: "Venom x" <xvenom@hotmail.com>
Subject: Scanners in UK
I am thinking about getting a scanner to try and listen in on various
air traffic I am mainly looking for for mobile and pager stuff to
intercept. I am from the UK and I was wondering if anyone had any idea
what scanner would be best. Also if you could make sure the scanners are
quite low in price.
Thanks in advance
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23)From: Mutter <mutter@openix.com>
Subject: Several birds with one stone...
Please excuse this rather long post but I get a kick out of killing
several birds with one stone...
> I agree that there is nothing sophisticated about these devices and
> they only duplicate what you can do manually. Their value is that they
> do it every time you open a line and you don't have to remember
> to do it yourself. Your paying $30-$50 for this convenience which
> isn't bad in my opinion, especially if you regularly use a phone line
> & number you do not want others to identify using standard caller ID
> services.
ha. $40 to dial three extra digits. Is it really _that_ much of an effort.
"Damn. I wanna call my friend but he lives in another state and then I'll
have to dial 1+ the area code. That's 4 extra digits. Too much work ..."
Or, better yet, talk to your phone company. They should have a service
which (for free) keeps your line anonymous always (turn off by *67).
There. Now you definitely blew $30 on a useless device.
> Since when is paying for convenience a bad thing? <g>
>
> If you want to be derisive, direct it at the local telcos that
> offer to sell you unlisted numbers but refuse to offer you automatic
> caller ID blocking. They are the ones that make such devices a
> convenience.
I'd be interested in knowing what telcos specifically you're referring to.
Selling unlisted numbers? I don't doubt it but certainly think that
there's a case for legal action. Kind of reminds me of the latest AOL
uproar (AOL selling users' personal info to the highest bidder).
> 6)From: Chris Nangle <nangle@planet.eon.net>
> Subject: Parlor trick?
>
> Great newsletter. I don't know alot of info on internet security, but
> someone who is might consider checking out the page:
> http://cia.ml.org/whiteboy/main.html and choosing the link 'New Warez
> Site for Netscape Users'. When this link is used YOUR hard drive files
> are shown. I don't know if this is a "parlor trick" or another security
> problem with Netscape Communicator 4.01 (which is what I am using).
It's only a trick (one which I believe we've discussed on this list
before). It's the equivalent of embedding a link to file://C:\ on your
page. No information about your hd is sent to the page's server.
BTW, the correct URL is http://cia.ml.org/whiteboy/main.htm (no 'l').
> How safe is the using of the at&t calling card # generator, has
> anyone used it B4, if so does it work ? and if it work would you know
> the 800# you have to call to make the call...
>
unless the program is new, the algorithm the program is based on is
probably outdated (at&t has a habit of correcting the kind of flaws that
allow such programs to exist:). You can reach at&t by dialing 800 call att
> 14)From: strider@mail2.quiknet.com
> Subject: Re: file erasure
>
> I hate corecting people (especially sense their is a dang good
> chance I am wrong), but I hate mis information even more. He was
Wow, for a guy who hates misinformation so much ...
> talking about using deltree on a dos machine, dos does not allow you
> to pipe the outp[ut of commands like unix. In unix you could use rm
> -rf / >/dev/nul but in does, as far as I know > will do absolutely
> nothing. Anyway this type of actions is destructive at best.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Information, in and of itself is never destructive. It's what
you do with it that might be. This is a list with a nice open atmosphere.
Let's keep it that way.
In DOS '>' redirects the output (just like in unix).
Redirecting to nul is perfectly acceptable in DOS.
- M u t t e r
Ed. root zine
(http://www.openix.com/~mutter)
mutter@openix.com
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Vol.Two Issue #167 The Surveillance List July 31,1997
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IN THIS ISSUE...
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01) Scanning in on Cordless
02) Scanner Users = Cellular Thieves?
03) Can you tell if an Engaged Tone is...?
04) New round of SpyShop raids...
05) Re: FBI info request
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1)From: HtPursuit@aol.com
Subject: Scanning in on Cordless
I know there has been alot of info regarding scanners and cell phones, also
scanners and modifications, but I need some assistance asap regarding the
scanning of cordless phones. I have not located anything that covers the
newer "secure channel" and the 900 mhz cordless phones. The case is simple,
I have a case where the surveillance has showed the constant use of a
cordless and I need to scan the range of the cordless. I have the freqs. on
the older cordless, I beleive I have the 900 freqs but I need a scanner that
works best with this type of application. If anyone has one of the old Radio
Shack scanners that work well in all the ranges, and would like to part with
it, please let me know directly. Thanks in advance for your help
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2)From: Daryll Symington <Daryll1@AOL.COM>
Subject: Scanner Users = Cellular Thieves?
In the July 1997 issue of Law Enforcement Technology, a sergeant from a very
small police department in the Florida panhandle, wrote 2 articles, one of
which was entitled Cellular Fraud. Here are a couple of excerpts from that
article:
"High-tech thieves routinely use scanners to steal cellular phone numbers
through the airways."
"Although the cell number can be captured by a scanner, the PIN is not
susceptible to the device."
Then after mentioning our friends at the Cellular Telecommunications Industry
Association, he goes on to say:
"There are several police-type scanners such as BearCat or Realistic Model
2037 that can be modified to read ESN and MIN numbers. As far as pro-models,
the Curtis 5900C is king of the hill. Of course, the Digital Data
Interceptor (DDI) is just as good and just as popular with the bad guys.
These units should be seized if they are found to be in the possession of
suspects of other crimes."
A curious note is the placement of an advertisement for the Curtis 5900C (NOT
a scanner) is just two page flips away from this error-containing article.
It is clearly labeled as a "CellPhone ESN Reader". ($1895.00 -still want
one?)
Most of us know that the above quoted statements contain factual errors, but
some of the LEO's reading this article may make the mistake of taking them as
gospel.
Comments? Please, no general cop-bashing is requested. I'm one, and am
somewhat dismayed by this article. What can we do as law-abiding scanner
enthusiasts to right these wrongs?
Daryll
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3)From: phreaker@technologist.com
Subject: Can you tell if an Engaged Tone is...?
No and it's not.
P
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4)From: dj73550@goodnet.com
Subject: New round of SpyShop raids...
I thought the list would be interested in the following: On wednesday
morning at approximately 10AM all four spy type shops operating in the
greater Phoenix, AZ. area were raided by a task force comprised of U.S.
Customs, U.S. Secret Service, and Arizona DPS officers. The task force
served warrants aimed at seizing any devices which violated title 18.
The only items they seized in 3 of the 4 shops were Ramsey audio
transmitters, Xandi audio transmitters(some in kit form) and numerous
Rainbow FM Audio Transmitters (All in kit form). According to one of
the U.S. Customs agents, FM audio kits are illegal to sell or possess
assembled or not...
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5)From: gaugusti@hqgbcs.attmail.com (Grant Augustine x4058)
Subject: Re: FBI info request
There's an old, but complete FOIA file pack entitled "Use The Freedom of
Information Act For You" available on the Def Con FTP server at:
ftp://ftp.fc.net/pub/defcon/EMPIRE/Empire-2.txt
The FOIA info's in File 4 of 13 and includes:
HOW TO MAKE A COMPLETE REQUEST
FEES
FEE WAIVER
HOW TO MAKE SURE YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU ARE ENTITLED TO. . .
AND WHAT TO DO IF YOU DON'T
HOW TO CHECK DOCUMENTS FOR COMPLETENESS
HOW TO MAKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL
MONITORING THE PROGRESS OF YOUR REQUEST
SAMPLE REQUEST LETTER FOR ALL AGENCIES
SAMPLE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL LETTER
FOIA/PA ADDRESSES FOR SELECTED FEDERAL AGENCIES
Also, File 6 of 11 (same URL) has greater detail on CallerID specs than
I've seen in this forum.
Enjoy
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