Just think, if these perverted Priests continue to kill each other off with fag AIDS, there will be fewer left to preach the gospel of nation-wrecking and kike-worship.

Catholic priests are dying of AIDS, often in silence
JUDY L. THOMAS - The Kansas City Star
Date: 01/29/00 22:15

Hundreds of Roman Catholic priests across the United States have died of AIDS-related illnesses, and hundreds more are living with HIV, the virus that causes the disease.

The actual number of AIDS deaths is difficult to determine. But it appears priests are dying of AIDS at a rate at least four times that of the general U.S. population, according to estimates from medical experts and priests and an analysis of health statistics by The Kansas City Star.

The deaths are of such concern to the church that most dioceses and religious orders now require applicants for the priesthood to take an HIV-antibody test before their ordination.

For the nation's 60 million Catholics, served by 46,000 priests, the AIDS issue goes straight to the heart of church doctrine -- a doctrine that teaches compassion and forgiveness but also considers homosexual relations a sin and opposes the modern practice of "safe sex."

In a nationwide confidential survey of 3,000 priests by The Star, two-thirds of the more than 800 responding lauded the church for being caring and compassionate to priests with AIDS. Often, the church covers medical costs, gives them a place to live and cares for them until they die.

Most priests, however, said the church failed to offer an early and effective sexual education that might have prevented infection in the first place. Two-thirds said sexuality either was not addressed at all or was not discussed adequately in the seminary. Three of four said the church needed to offer more education about sexual issues.

Many priests and behavioral experts argue that the church's adherence to 12th-century doctrine about the virtues of celibacy and its teachings on homosexuality have contributed to the spread of AIDS within the clergy. Unwittingly, the church has kept fledgling priests -- some of whom were as young as 14 when they entered seminary in the '60s and '70s -- uneducated about the reality of a sexual world and its temptations.

"How to be celibate and to be gay at the same time, and how to be celibate and heterosexual at the same time, that's what we were never really taught how to do. And that was a major failing."

Roman Catholic cardinals in the United States and high-ranking church officials in Rome declined requests to discuss the issue. The Vatican referred questions to local bishops.

"Faith reminds us that the afflicted are our brothers and sisters, men and women in God's image. They deserve our care, respect and support."

In an earlier interview, Bishop Raymond J. Boland of the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph said the AIDS deaths show that priests are human.

Gays are in the priesthood, and not all of them are celibate, he said.

Goss himself left the priesthood after 11 years when he fell in love with a seminarian who was just shy of ordination. The two became longtime partners. The former seminarian died of AIDS in 1992.

In the early 1990s, experts who counseled and treated priests with AIDS estimated that about 200 in the United States either had died of AIDS or had contracted the disease. Now, those who work with infected priests say the numbers are higher.

Of those he worked with, he said, 1 in 12 tested HIV-positive.

Most significant among the findings was that a large proportion of priests were psychologically underdeveloped and had failed to achieve a healthy sexual identity.

"For whatever reasons, these priests have not resolved the problems which are ordinarily worked through during the time of adolescence," the report said. "Sexual feelings are a source of conflict and difficulty and much energy goes into suppressing them or the effort to distract themselves from them.

"Most report that their education about sexual development was negative or non-existent; many report no normal developmental social experience."

http://www.kcstar.com/projects/priests/priest.htm

here adl whines over canonization of allegedly antisemitic nun:

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/VaticanJewish_96/4568_96.htm

I suppose these poor priests grew up without mothers and fathers, without friends, without public schools, cable tv or movies and without books. Therefore, they need someone to take them by the hand and teach them. How wonderful that the seminary finds these guys and helps them find out- Which end is up? I am a boy or a girl?

On the other hand, I thought gays were born the way they are and you can't expect them to change!

Judy and Hannah (below), reporters from the Jew World Order, leave out that homo priests have taken over most of the seminaries since the 60s and everybody knows it. (Today, even old people in their 70s know a fricking fag weirdo when they see one.)

Seminary skittish about gay priests
Issue was 'known by everyone but never really acknowledged,' once-aspiring priests remember

By Hanna Rosin / Washington Post
Andrea Bruce Woodall / Washington Post


Andrew Krzmarzick, left, saw Theological College classmates as people "who had come here to hide." David Kucharski was gay. Both eventually left the seminary, where homosexuality was never addressed.

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WASHINGTON -- Several thoughts struck Andrew Krzmarzick during orientation week for his class of aspiring priests in the late summer of 1997: how brainy everyone seemed, how they weren't ostentatiously pious, and one other thing. Midway through a tour of the library at Theological College in Northeast Washington, he noticed another student "definitely checking me out."
So he ditched the tour and asked the one friend he'd made so far: "Hey -- are we the only straight guys here or what?"
For David Kucharski, that same realization came as a pleasant surprise. Walking back from a movie after his first week of classes, he asked some fellow students how they thought gay people were treated in their parishes. At least a couple seemed sympathetic. "I knew I would need a friend for later," he said.
They were two young seminarians from the diocese of Dubuque, Iowa -- one straight and one gay. They arrived in Washington one year apart, and both would have been Roman Catholic priests by now, classes of 2001 and 2002, respectively, at the elite national seminary affiliated with Catholic University. But both left when what they noticed in those early weeks came to dominate their seminary experience in a way they found unnerving -- something "known by everyone but never really acknowledged," Kucharski said.
It was not the presence of gay men that bothered either of them -- both wound up working at the Whitman-Walker Clinic, doing outreach to people with AIDS, many of them gay. It was the skittishness surrounding the whole issue of homosexuality at the seminary. Gay or not seemed to define social cliques, political camps and many a classmate's wrenching personal struggles. Yet being gay was never mentioned by the faculty except as an abstract possibility.
"It's not like guys were walking around holding hands," Krzmarzick said, "but there was just this huge undercurrent that was not addressed."
In some ways that silence is hardly surprising. Until now, the church's position on ordaining gay priests has remained ambiguous. Pope John Paul II's spokesman, Joaquin Navarro- Valls, recently said of gays: "People with these inclinations just cannot be ordained." But it was an offhand response to a question, and generated much controversy because in fact church policy does not forbid ordaining gay men....

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The bad news is it takes 8 years? for a fag to die of AIDS, and with anti-retroviral drugs being used , fags can live a lot longer.

Theres plenty of time for them to molest people in 8 years +.

Judaism as “Sacrament of Otherness”

I take it up the butt from the Jews and I love it! - Cardinal Kasper.

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Philip A. Cunningham

On the 37th anniversary of the Second Vatican Council declaration, Nostra Aetate, Walter Cardinal Kasper, president of the Pontifical Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, used a memorable phrase to describe the relationship between the church and the Jewish people. After referring to the progress in relations that has occurred since 1965, he went on to say:

[W]e Catholics became aware with greater clarity that the faith of Israel is that of our elder brothers, and, most importantly, that Judaism is as a sacrament of every otherness that as such the Church must learn to discern, recognize and celebrate. It is therefore proper [on] this date for the Pontifical Council to welcome and to encourage any initiative favoring the growth of a bond with Judaism, with its theological and spiritual wealth, and with the culture that is expressed by it.1

The phrase “as a sacrament of every otherness,” struck me as particularly evocative. Without suggesting that what follows represents the thinking of Cardinal Kasper, I would like briefly to explore these words as an illustration of the present moment in the post-Nostra Aetate development of Roman Catholic theological thought about Jews and Judaism.

“As a sacrament”

It seems appropriate to begin with a very significant word in the Catholic tradition; namely, “sacrament.” In this context, a sacrament can be defined as an outward sign that gives grace or that mediates the life of God to the church community. The application of the distinctively Catholic term “sacrament” to Judaism therefore means that Christians are graced by a mediation of God’s presence when they spiritually engage the Jewish community and tradition. Certainly, many if not all of those Christians who have been involved in the dialogue with Jews will testify to the holiness they have experienced by their participation.

It is worth noting that this application of Catholic theological terminology to Judaism is remarkable from the broad perspective of the two millennia history of Christians and Jews. However, it is consistent with other post-Nostra Aetate writings, such as the pope referring to Jews as “brothers”2 or describing their ongoing covenantal duties before God as a “vocation.”3

To say that the Christian encounter with Judaism has sacramental qualities is predicated on the recognition that Jews “ are partners in a covenant of eternal love” with God, as Pope John Paul II has expressed it.4 Such a covenantal relationship with the Holy One necessarily means that Jews are capable of mediating God’s holiness to others. Therefore, Cardinal Kasper’s use of the phrase “as a sacrament” is quite apt.

“that … the Church must learn to discern, recognize and celebrate”

Cardinal Kasper, however, went beyond simply identifying the Christian-Jewish encounter as sacramental from a Christian point of view. He went on to say that we Christians must learn to appreciate this sacramental quality. A need to learn how to do something suggests that the deed is unfamiliar or unpracticed. When one recalls the longevity and pervasiveness of the Christian “teaching of contempt” for Jews and Judaism, it becomes almost an understatement to say that Christians “must learn to discern, recognize, and celebrate” Judaism as sacramental. For almost two millennia we took the opposite for granted. The collective Christian religious imagination has been shaped by centuries of habitually thinking of Judaism as superseded or obsolete. Thinking of Judaism as mediating holiness does not come naturally to us. We Christians have no inherited reflexes that incline us to conceive of or to respect Judaism in this way. But perhaps I should qualify this by saying we have no inherited reflexes to think of post-biblical or rabbinic Judaism in this way. We do have a tradition of esteeming biblical Israel...

Kaspar is probably being blackmailed. Kaspar needs to shut the hell up with his yap. Kaspar is an absolute traitor. You named the worst most craven Jude-suckophant in the prelature right there. Nice call Abzug.

In an earlier interview, Bishop Raymond J. Boland of the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph said the AIDS deaths show that priests are human.


The AIDS deaths show that many priests are faggots. What is this euphemistic subterfuge? OK, how about "the AIDS deaths show that many priests are human...inverts, hypocrites, butt pirates, all of the above?"