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LUX
09-30-2004, 01:06 PM
Two Stories, anybody see any connection?

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_12.html

FIRST STORY EXCERPT:
Israel lobbying for Taiwan submarine buy

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Thursday, September 30, 2004

Israel has been quietly lobbying for the launch of a U.S. project to provide advanced conventional submarines to Taiwan.

The reason: a Taiwan buy could launch a conventional submarine production line in the United States that would be used by Israel to procure additional subs.

"Israel really wants advanced conventional submarines but can't afford to buy them on the open market," a U.S. official said. "With a production line in the United States, Israel could purchase these vessels with U.S. military aid."

The official said he expected pro-Israel lobbyists in Congress to help Taiwan in efforts to win approval for the U.S. sale of advanced conventional submarines, Middle East Newsline reported. After years of delay, Taiwan has requested eight Type-209 submarines as part of a proposed purchase of $18 billion in U.S. platforms and weaponry. Taiwan's legislature was expected to vote on the procurement project in October.

In 2001, the Bush administration agreed to sell Taiwan eight diesel-electric submarines, 12 P-3C Orion anti-surface-warfare aircraft and four Kidd-class destroyers. But Tapei, amid heavy domestic opposition, failed to negotiate contracts with U.S. defense firms for the air and naval platforms.

In the meantime, Taiwan's request has stirred debate in Washington. The request has been opposed by the State Department, but supported by congressional leaders, including House Speaker Tom DeLay.

The U.S. Navy has also opposed the sale. Officials said the navy does not want the establishment of a U.S. electric-diesel submarine production line that could harm funding for nuclear submarine production. They said the Taiwanese request would be decided after the U.S. elections in November.

Israel, which has been struggling in efforts to procure additional submarines, has been closely following Taiwan's request. Officials said Washington's approval could lead to the establishment of the first diesel submarine production line in the United States since the 1960s.

In contrast, Germany has been alarmed over the prospect that the United States would launch a diesel submarine line. Germany has been the leading producer of diesel submarines and Israel has been negotiating with Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft, or HDW, for two Dolphin-class submarines. HDW has also begun producing and exporting the more advanced Type-212 submarine.

THE SECOND STORY
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Exposé" investigativeexpose@hotmail.com>
To: <rtx@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: THE 'OKTOBER SURPRISE' IS .

Ladies and Gentlemen, Please fasten your seatbelts.

RE: THE 'OKTOBER SURPRISE' IS .
This comes from a respected source in London, linked to the
Chinese military hierarchy.

GOOD GRIEF!!!

TEN Taiwanese submarines were 'sunk in harbor' by the Chinese about one month ago. They have also amassed one million troops ready to board landing craft - plus minted one hundred-thousand solid gold 'war wounded' war service decorations.

The Taiwanese fired a missile far enough SOUTH to prove they can hit Shanghai.

The French are supplying medical back-up for the Chinese.

The Germans have designed and provided the Chinese with a missile defense shield system.

The quid pro quo for China not taking sides over Iraq is - the USA not taking sides over Taiwan.

AND NOT ONE WORD OF IT IN THE 'BLATHER OBSESSED' WESTERN PRESS!!!

Kindly confirm - if you are able.
Texposé

Whirlwind
09-30-2004, 02:32 PM
I would think there would have been some retaliation by now if china had sunk 10 subs in harbor. There seems to be a smorgasbord of things that could happen. Even if bush wins reelection, they will need an incident to reinstate the draft, albeit after October.