At a Rochdale BNP meeting tonight, Thursday, one of the guest speakers was veteran nationalist Ken Henderson. The below report was posted on SF. Having known Ken for more years than I care to recall , it sounds very odd, very shallow and facile.

In the cliche by lefty comedian(?) Richard Wilson, " I don't believe it !"

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EW

"The third speaker was a veteran of the movement, Mr Ken Henderson. This was the first time that this reporter had heard Ken address a meeting. It was quite a speech which called for Nationalist Unity and for some within the Nationalist movement to take another look at how they go about bringing complaints to the BNP leadership. He spoke about the Internet and how much of a positive tool in can be for Nationalists to showcase our policies. But also warned us about the negatives which have appeared on the Internet by ‘fellow’ Nationalists during the elections. He reminded us all, that we’re on the same side, and that people who support the BNP, but have a problem with the leadership should express their concerns through the BNP and not attack it externally."

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As one was has been around before Ken, I am mightily puzzled by this report.

Just read the below off SF GB. I don't believe this either.


There is now way that Ken Henderson supports Griffins leadership. In fact Ken refused to have his picture taken with Nick Griffin at the Rochdale St.Georges Day bash on 23rd.April this last year. He insisted that the picture was deleted.

The taker of that pic, who is another member of this group, will verify this.

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Today, 09:20 PM #3
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Re: Excellent Rochdale BNP meeting.

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Originally Posted by EW
The BNP is a party going places. It’s the only game in town.



I agree EW, I too thought it was a brilliant meeting. I wish I could have recorded the Ken Henderson speech and played it back on here. For those who don't know Ken Henderson, he is a first class nationalist who was in the BNP from it's early days. He featured in quite a few tv documentary stitch ups filmed during the late 1980's and early 90's. He was also on the receiving end of much red intimidation.

He made a brilliant closing statement saying the criminals of the Lib/Lab/Con alliance, the organised thugs of the left, and the combined power of the mass media have all tried to smash the BNP, and all have failed. He said after a gap of a few years, he has come back to see how the BNP are getting on, and what he see's is good, very good. He said the last enemy in our way that can cause us real damage are the phoneys that call themselves nationalists but try and cause turmoil and friction from within. Mr Henderson thinks if we can steer a steady course, we will be unstoppable because the British people have had enough and the BNP's time will soon be upon us.

I note Mr. Henderson never mentions the dispicable attacks against the founder of the party John Tyndall. I noticed Mr. Henderson never mentioned the disgusting attempts to oust John Tyndall from the party, as he notes - after a gap of a few years, he has come back to see how the BNP are getting on - and how they are hounding, expelling the first chairman of this party :mad:...not a word!

Come on Ken you can do alot better than that.

but have a problem with the leadership should express their concerns through the BNP and not attack it externally."

It would nice to know how you go about expressing concerns through the BNP. There is no proper, transparent mechanism in place to do that only on the outside once you've been purged, expelled, sacked, demoted, alienated, etc. Whistle blowers have no protection within the modern BNP and are quickly removed then the process of demonising and smearing them begins.

The experience I heard from the Burnley lot was a document was put to the AC highlighting concerns, leadership shortfalls, etc. All presented in the proper format not made public or shared with others. The outcome was it was dismissed/ignored and within 18 months the Organiser and deputy organiser were squeezed out and the guy who presented it Jackson was also gone as part of the feud over Robin Evans when they failed to back his judgement over removing him. Its a sad day when anyone who expresses concern at the path the Leadership is taking is described as a 'phoney' from what I can see if some of the 'phoneys' were on board or treated less shabbily then the BNP might really be going places. There is some very considerable talent amongst the 'phoneys' being allowed to go to waste because of all this sectarianism. I think at the moment it seems the priority is attacking fellow Nationalists who happen to disagree than convincing the public of the benefits of voting BNP. Self preservation of key officials and the leadership seems to more of a priority than preservation of the BNP.

There is now way that Ken Henderson supports Griffins leadership. In fact Ken refused to have his picture taken with Nick Griffin at the Rochdale St.Georges Day bash on 23rd.April this last year. He insisted that the picture was deleted.

The taker of that pic, who is another member of this group, will verify this.

Yes, I can confirm that: KH asked that the pic. be deleted.

Yes, I can confirm that: KH asked that the pic. be deleted.

I don't know the guy, but that does sound odd.
Then why the change of heart? :confused:

I don't know the guy, but that does sound odd.
Then why the change of heart? :confused:
I don't understand you. I took the pic. and KH asked that it be deleted. End of story.

I don't understand you. I took the pic. and KH asked that it be deleted. End of story.

I meant why did he want the photo deleted if he likes Griffin?

I can tell everyone that Ken is a genuine nationalist from the 'old school'. Ken had more shit from the Establishment and the reds, than the current BNP bods have had combined.

Ken led the applause for Richard Edmonds on his anti-non white BNP members speech at Rochdale.

Reading the incorrect SF posts by EW and TURNER, I know which way Mr. Henderson leans. Ken is an ex-soldier, patriot and real nationalist.

I can tell everyone that Ken is a genuine nationalist from the 'old school'. Ken had more shit from the Establishment and the reds, than the current BNP bods have had combined.

Ken led the applause for Richard Edmonds on his anti-non white BNP members speech at Rochdale.

Reading the incorrect SF posts by EW and TURNER, I know which way Mr. Henderson leans. Ken is an ex-soldier, patriot and real nationalist.

What you fail to point out though HA, is that EW (me) also led the applause for Richard Edmonds. The facts are that both me and Ken have near total agreement. This was born out by the chat we had during that meeting.

What you fail to point out though HA, is that EW (me) also led the applause for Richard Edmonds. The facts are that both me and Ken have near total agreement. This was born out by the chat we had during that meeting.

Care to enlighten us on the "total agreement" ?

Care to enlighten us on the "total agreement" ?

Well not really no. Considering its an obvious choice which some have made in all this debate, and the fact I don't know you. Also the fact that I'm not getting in to private internal debates on VNN. This board, like Stormfront and the rest of the Internet is totally at the view of Mr Gable.

I'm sure he's 'having a good time' with all the information which gets spewed out on VNN and to a similar extent on Stormfront.

Discussing the policies and the direction of Nationalism is one thing.

Personally attacking fellow Nationalists is quite another. It doesn't matter who throws the first insult or comment. It is up to true Nationalists to not get drawn in to arguements on a personal level and to stick to the issues.

Rochdale BNP 's speaker at their next meeting !!!



This post has just gone up by the young girl from Sheffield who is
listed as speaking at Rochdales next meeting. Oh dear !


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Today, 12:21 PM #29
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Re: NPD versus BNP

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Originally Posted by Darwinism
BTW I've been following closely to what is happening with that Anglo-
Turk and his possible membership.



i never thought i'd hear/see myself saying/typing this, but that half-
turk deserves membership. Before i found out why he is a member i
would have launched @ people like me for not being REAL WHITE
NATIONALISTS then i found out how he risked his life in benifit of
the white race. i quess an extra £25 a year will help aswell as him
past contributions.

14/4
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"there is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word that means more to
me than any other, that word is 'England'."

Rochdale BNP 's speaker at their next meeting !!!


This post has just gone up by the young girl from Sheffield who is
listed as speaking at Rochdales next meeting. Oh dear !



One minute your saying you want open and free debate within the BNP and when an opinion gets expressed which you can't understand or oppose, then you want to splash it everywhere and ridicule it. Not a constructive path.

Get back on SF 'Billy Whizz' and have a debate with her! That's why she's on the forums to debate with people. And before you say it, Nope, your not banned!

Then why can't I post ?

And why is it that MUADIB sent you an e-mail that "you had better take it(the problem) up with Don Black, regarding this issue ?

You got higher contacts through me. Not anymore my lad !

What you fail to point out though HA, is that EW (me) also led the applause for Richard Edmonds. The facts are that both me and Ken have near total agreement. This was born out by the chat we had during that meeting.


A chat ? My word.

I have known 'said bloke' for over 25 years. Don't assume what you don't know.

I have always found MUADIB by far the best moderator on SF. I still use SF but I now only keep to the Dutch langauge section. Using the British section only gets my account closed and I am bored of being messed about.

It never seems worth starting a pro Tyndall thread over there as it just gets messed about by Jewtree. So it would make sence to bring the whole debate over here.

I don't know much about the internal struggle within the BNP at membership level. So it will be interesting for me and others like me to be able to read what has really happened since Griffin took over and how the membership have reacted to the changes in direction. :D

A chat ? My word.

I have known 'said bloke' for over 25 years. Don't assume what you don't know.

Were have I assumed that?

I know you have known him for a long time. Go and 'chat' to Ken. I encourage you to do so!

Were have I assumed that?

I know you have known him for a long time. Go and 'chat' to Ken. I encourage you to do so!

HA, is it just me, or does EW appear to be stalking you?
I thought that only happened in showbiz!

This board, like Stormfront and the rest of the Internet is totally at the view of Mr Gable. I'm sure he's 'having a good time' with all the information which gets spewed out on VNN and to a similar extent on Stormfront.
Gable doesn't need to monitor VNN or SF - there are more than enough state assets in the BNP.


Discussing the policies and the direction of Nationalism is one thing.
Discussion is the one thing that is not allowed.


Personally attacking fellow Nationalists is quite another.
Tell that to Griffin, Lecomber and Ebanks.


It doesn't matter who throws the first insult or comment. It is up to true Nationalists to not get drawn in to arguements on a personal level and to stick to the issues.
Clever, but not clever enough. You won't shut debate down with that trick.

It doesn't matter who throws the first insult or comment. It is up to true Nationalists to not get drawn in to arguements on a personal level and to stick to the issues.

Clever, but not clever enough. You won't shut debate down with that trick.

Librarian, I thought the same as you when I read this statement by EW.

Debate is important and so is information about those being talked about. I am sure the jews at Searchlight know as much as most of us here about Griffin and his pals, so we are telling them nothing new.

From what they said about the RWB I would say they were also there, what would stop them getting one of their people in?

The security was more worried about getting WN to cover up our tattoo's or to cover up our WN teeshirts (Not pc enough for the new BNP new tory wannabee image).

Now I can also tell you that most of the security guys on the gates, were not happy to be asking us to hide symbols of white pride. But a few newbie types only shutup because they knew they were wasting there time and walking into trouble...

Now any WN organization that tells WN how to dress and talk "No rascist language" is no longer a real NW party in my book. The Jews must be loving this "moderniztion", the Jew is bascially watching WN castrate ITSELF! :mad:

I think Ken has fallen under the "RWB Spell" like English Warrior :D