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King_Tiger
09-30-2004, 11:10 PM
Well in that first debate I'd say that John the Jew Kerry gave George the Jew lackey Bush the ass-whupping of his lifetime. I laughed at nearly everything Bush threw out there. It was made painfully obvious that he doesn't even know exactly what his own policies are, which is of course because all important decisions in his admin are made by the top ZOG neocon brass. Bush is just a mouthpeice; an ignorant sock puppet who is good for throwing out an occasional sound byte or two.

I've said this before and I'll say it again; Kohn will win big come November, just watch.

For those keeping score at home, Bush got his clock cleaned in round one of three.

Steve B
09-30-2004, 11:14 PM
[QUOTE=King_Tiger]

I've said this before and I'll say it again; Kohn will win big come November, just watch.[/QUOTE]

Then you're dumber than a box of rocks! Care to bet on who will will win? I say Bush. Not because I like him but just because I'm smarter than you!

King_Tiger
09-30-2004, 11:23 PM
[QUOTE=Steve B]Then you're dumber than a box of rocks! Care to bet on who will will win? I say Bush. Not because I like him but just because I'm smarter than you![/QUOTE]Seriously?

I think Kohn would win in a landslide, by at least 50 electoral votes. I guess only time will tell; it's not like listening to jewsmedia outlets will help.

hitler goddess
09-30-2004, 11:23 PM
The debate was incredibly boring just like I expected it would be. Bush came off, once again, as just so stupid. :eek: You can see how an imbecile such as he can be so easily controlled. He reminds me everytime I see him of some drunken frat boy. And Kerry is like a robot. I will agree that in the lying greedy political world, Kerry did a little better then Bush.

hitler goddess
09-30-2004, 11:27 PM
[QUOTE=King_Tiger]Seriously?

I think Kohn would win in a landslide, by at least 50 electoral votes. I guess only time will tell; it's not like listening to jewsmedia outlets will help.[/QUOTE]


I do not think Kerry will win. He was a little better then Bush in the debate, but I don't think he did as good as he would have to to win. There are two more debates however, so maybe.

sean(doc)martin
09-30-2004, 11:30 PM
[QUOTE=Steve B]Then you're dumber than a box of rocks! Care to bet on who will will win? I say Bush. Not because I like him but just because I'm smarter than you![/QUOTE]
ROFL

With that aside does anyone know how soon and where we can find a transcript of the debate?

I didn't think I could survive watching Jewy and Proselyte ramble for an hour or more.

Yeah I think Bush will win also, because the only votes Kerry will get are hardcore Democrats or people that are voting for the sake of voting against Bush.

Nobody likes Bush but most dislike Kerry more.


How did the debate go anyway?

Here is about how I thought it would go

Topic Jews
Bush: I love Israel more than you
Kerry: No you don’t I will do anything to secure Israel
Bush: I will give them more money for military Aid
Kerry: I am half Jew
Bush: I will convert

Topic Blacks
Bush: diversity is our strength
Kerry: I will personally see to it that our colleges are 70% black before my term is done
Bush: I will make sure they have more opportunities than they have now
Kerry: I will give them tons of govt money

Topics Immigrants
Bush: They are our strength I will open the boarders
Kerry: They are the only people starting up business I will give them unlimited funds

Topic Whites
Bush: What about them?
Kerry: Yeah I don’t have any research on that subject

Crickets

8Man
09-30-2004, 11:30 PM
Does anyone know where a transcript of the debate is posted? I want to check the actual wording of what Pres. Bush replied to in response to a question about when Iraq would be a "free country". Best I can recall, Bush said Iraq will be a free country when it supports the security of Israel.

If that's the criteria to end the occupation of Israel, they'll be an occupied country for at least a century. Look at Germany, still an occupied country even after 60 years and billions paid to the Zionist jews.

MOMUS
09-30-2004, 11:31 PM
While I think there is a much higher level of revulsion for him and his policies than the media lets on, I think Bush is selected to win. These choreographed debate events won't matter much. Even idiots, by now, know that Bush is another one of them; him showing his stupidity once more on stage will have little effect. Idiots will still vote for him and crooked elections will tip the scale again.

It makes little difference which gang of zionist warmongers call the shots, the result will be the same.

King_Tiger
09-30-2004, 11:44 PM
[QUOTE=8Man]Does anyone know where a transcript of the debate is posted? I want to check the actual wording of what Pres. Bush replied to in response to a question about when Iraq would be a "free country". Best I can recall, Bush said Iraq will be a free country when it supports the security of Israel.[/QUOTE]Yes I was quite surprised, actually each of them mentioned Israel's safety and security as reasons for the war in Iraq. Both might have blurted it out by accident, however; they were mentioned in passing among other reasons (taking down the evil dictator saddam, making the world safer, ect.) and the israeli connection wasn't further elaborated on. Usually they avoid all connection of the "war on terror" with Israeli interests for fear of accidentally helping a lemming put 2 and 2 together.

Derrick Beukeboom
09-30-2004, 11:45 PM
I will have to concur with the overall point of Momus's message - Bush does seem to be the person 'chosen' to be President.
The big media corporations have been very friendly and easy on Bush. Bush is not only good for the jews, but he is also good for business.
As summer redstone of mtv has stated "Bush is better for the business of Viacom".

There is such a plethora of ammo to destroy Bush the fool, yet, the media (read jews) barely challenges him and our fucked up situation at all.
Not that there is really much different between the two major parties, but the corporate elite that actually runs this country seems to be very at ease with Bush the fool as Pres.
HG has pinned it perfectly - Bush is so easily controlled and manipulated, it is truly scary.

Kerry seemed to do a better job as a debater and was a more polished speaker, but he doesn't rub the masses the right way. I guess the masses feel better having a fellow imbicle in the White House, as this makes them feel better. Maybe they feel less stupid.

They both mentioned that a safe Iraq would make a "safer Israel".
Translation: ZOG is still the top dog in charge regardless.

I think Bush will win, but it will be close.
Maybe a Kerry upset if he can win Ohio and Michigan.

Bush really came across as a complete fuckin moron......
As per his policies, Bush might as well be a jew, or better yet - a mexican jew as Bush seems to love the spics just as much as he loves Isreal.

Either way, it is irrelevent for Whites. Although Kerry seems more intelligent by a mile over Bush.

Steve B
10-01-2004, 12:17 AM
[QUOTE=King_Tiger]Seriously?

I think Kohn would win in a landslide, by at least 50 electoral votes. I guess only time will tell; it's not like listening to jewsmedia outlets will help.[/QUOTE]

Bet me! Gentlemens bet! I say Bush will win, you say Kerry/Kohn.

Loser posts a humiliating, loss of pride and dignity in main forum!

You game, king_Tigger?

Paul
10-01-2004, 12:48 AM
Sorry, folks. Some of you are too smart for your own good. Bush is going to lose, period. Remember, Gore actually won the popular vote in 2000. And Bush hasn't picked up any more votes with Jew War III. Also, in the four years since 2000, the minority population has increased more than the White population and they hate Bush even more than we do. Say good-bye to Goy Bush and hello to John Kohn.

MOMUS
10-01-2004, 12:56 AM
Hell, you may be right. I think Bush is widely hated and feared by most normal White folks too.
I can't call it. All I know is that we lose either way.

Edit: If they don't like the way the cards fall, Bush and his crew are capable of turning over the table and ending the game.

[QUOTE=Paul]Sorry, folks. Some of you are too smart for your own good. Bush is going to loose, period. Remember, Gore actually won the popular vote in 2000. And Bush hasn't picked up any more votes with Jew War III. Also, in the four years since 2000, the minority population has increased more than the White population and they hate Bush even more than we do. Say good-bye to Goy Bush and hello to John Kohn.[/QUOTE]

Heinrich Himmler SS
10-01-2004, 01:25 AM
Bush confirmed what W.N. have been saying about him when he said "Israel is more secure" when talking about Iraq. I agree Kerry made Bush look bad. Bush didn't have any intelligent arguments but Kerry did. I was amazed Bush didn't trip up while talking this time around, has someone been teaching him English?

sean(doc)martin
10-01-2004, 03:13 AM
Here is a link to the debate thanks Ironworker
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debatereferee/debate_0930.html

BUSH: Libya has disarmed. The A.Q. Khan network has been brought to justice.

[COLOR=Red]I wonder if this is a play on Kerry’s name (Kohn) or something along those lines[/COLOR]

Do you believe the election of Senator Kerry on November the 2nd would increase the chances of the U.S. being hit by another 9/11-type terrorist attack?
BUSH: No, I don't believe it's going to happen. I believe I'm going to win, because the American people know I know how to lead. I've shown the American people I know how to lead.
I have -- I understand everybody in this country doesn't agree with the decisions I've made.
KERRY: I believe in being strong and resolute and determined. And I will hunt down and kill the terrorists, wherever they are.
But we also have to be smart, Jim. And smart means not diverting your attention from the real war on terror in Afghanistan against Osama bin Laden and taking if off to Iraq where the 9/11 Commission confirms there was no connection to 9/11 itself and Saddam Hussein, and where the reason for going to war was weapons of mass destruction, not the removal of Saddam Hussein.
And so, today, we are 90 percent of the casualties and 90 percent of the cost: $200 billion -- $200 billion that could have been used for health care, for schools, for construction, for prescription drugs for seniors, and it's in Iraq.
BUSH: I don't think we want to get to how he's going to pay for all these promises. It's like a huge tax gap. Anyway, that's for another debate.
My administration has tripled the amount of money we're spending on homeland security to $30 billion a year.
My administration worked with the Congress to create the Department of Homeland Security so we could better coordinate our borders and ports. We've got 1,000 extra border patrol on the southern border; want 1,000 on the northern border. We're modernizing our borders.
We spent $3.1 billion for fire and police, $3.1 billion.
We're doing our duty to provide the funding.
But the best way to protect this homeland is to stay on the offense.


They say Kerry out did Bush, but basically all I see is from the looks of Kerry’s answers he has been reading what America thinks of Bush and regurgitating it. Kerry was just following popular opinion at the moment. It doesn’t look like Kerry has a better grasp on what is going on than someone you would meet on the street that follows politics.

If Kerry wouldn’t have been following popular opinion it would have been even money on that debate.

Kerry did the typical “do something and then say I was in error once popular opinion has changed so now I am going to fix it”. Kerry did what was popular when the Bush approval rating was high now that public opinion of the Iraq invasion is low Kerry has changed completely.


I am not a Bush supporter and know WN’s are going to get the shaft either way, but Kerry does what he thinks is popular opinion at the time.

He won’t take a stand for anything. If opinion changed tomorrow he would go back to backing the war effort.

8Man
10-01-2004, 03:35 AM
Pres. Debate Transcript (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6146353/?GT1=5100) at MSN

Bush: A free Iraq will help secure Israel.

[COLOR=Navy]So Iraq will not be free until it agrees to help secure Israel? [/COLOR]

Kerry: I‘m going to get it right for those soldiers, because it‘s important to Israel, it‘s important to America, it‘s important to the world, it‘s important to the fight on terror.

[COLOR=Navy]The only mention of Mexico was by Kerry:[/COLOR]

The terrorism czar, who has worked for every president since Ronald Reagan, said, “Invading Iraq in response to 9/11 would be like Franklin Roosevelt invading Mexico in response to Pearl Harbor.”

[COLOR=Navy]The War on Poverty, The War on Drugs, The War on Terrorism, what's next... "The War on anti-Semitism" ?[/COLOR]

N.B. Forrest
10-01-2004, 04:33 AM
I watched that howling bore of a "debate". I think Kohn may have helped himself a little with his performance. We shall see. He was clearly the smoother of the two. As for the Chimp, he was obviously highly irritated throughout: he kept furrowing his brow and making monkey-scowls as the rebbe was talking, and pounded the lectern to accentuate "his" pathetic justifications of the quagmire he stupidly allowed his kike handlers to talk him into. It was as if he was thinking "Why I gotta debate? Me president - him asshole!"

brutus
10-01-2004, 06:12 AM
When the TV went to split screen and Kerry was speaking, I couldn’t help but notice the expressions on Bush’s face. His eyes were darting all over the place as if his brain were rotating around in his skull.

Bush will win this election simply because the jews need a “Hawk”, not a “Dove.” in the White House.

Kerry is a relic of the old liberal socialist hippy days when the jews needed Doves in America to help them win the so-called cold-war. The purpose of the Doves back then, was to undermine American’s resolve, on the home front, in the West‘s fight against communism. (This is where the term useful idiot comes from) The socialist marxists, called communists who were really jews, were in the process of taking over large portions of the world‘s countries at that time.

But now........israel needs to stop those pesky muslims from killing jews and from blowing-up the jew‘s financial centers.

And why should the jews risk getting killed themselves, when they already have simpleton Bush tricked, into fighting their war against islam with American soldiers?

With John Kerry, the jew had a loyal socialist servant in congress for all those years, fighting against America’s interests and for israels’ interests overseas and at home. But stupid old hippy Kerry just can’t let that “Dove thing go”..................and the jew knows it.

That’s why Kerry will lose.

If you don’t believe me, just pay close attention to the media. They built and protected Kerry, but now they will savage him.

Augustus Sutter
10-01-2004, 06:16 AM
[QUOTE=IronWorker]Over at the www.cspan.org mainpage they have a link that purportedly has the transcript for the debate, but for some reason I couldn't get it to work. CSPAN iz a pretty good source for information (I wish they would show amren conferences like they did in the past though) so I would recommend Whites to check that out to get a transcript.

I only watched like bits of the debate while having dinner. I did see Jonah Kohn mention the Hate State of Israel which angered me. The two canidates are both ZOGites and frankly I decided that I would rather watch the hot White chicks on Charmed on the TNT channel then watch to see who could out ZOG each other in the debate.[/QUOTE]

Take a look at the transcript. At one point Kerry said his middle eastern policies will do what is in the best interests of "Israel and the United States", Israel comes first of course.

Augustus Sutter
10-01-2004, 06:21 AM
[QUOTE=Steve B]Then you're dumber than a box of rocks! Care to bet on who will will win? I say Bush. Not because I like him but just because I'm smarter than you![/QUOTE]

I agree with Steve. Dumb Bushy is more of an asset to the Jews than Jew Kohn. Once elected to second term monkey boy can do what he likes. He does not have to worry about getting re-elected. The first thing he will do is bring back the draft for ZOG's attack on Iran. We should all start digging fall-out shelters.

Gladius
10-01-2004, 08:30 AM
Since I didn't watch the debate, I'll include an interesting perspective from the ANTIWAR.COM page

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=3687[url="http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=3687"][/url]

Politico
10-01-2004, 08:53 AM
[QUOTE=N.B. Forrest]I watched that howling bore of a "debate". I think Kohn may have helped himself a little with his performance. We shall see. He was clearly the smoother of the two. As for the Chimp, he was obviously highly irritated throughout: he kept furrowing his brow and making monkey-scowls as the rebbe was talking, and pounded the lectern to accentuate "his" pathetic justifications of the quagmire he stupidly allowed his kike handlers to talk him into. It was as if he was thinking "Why I gotta debate? Me president - him asshole!"[/QUOTE]


Exactly..the bush was hilarious. I simply had the overwhelming awareness that it was a waste of time...I will admit that I fell asleep about half way through. Oh well.

Politico
10-01-2004, 09:00 AM
I have to add one point. This morning I had to stop at the grocery store on the way to work, and pick up some stuff for a little luncheon. I went through the self-checkout, as I usually do whenever possible. The machine in the isle I chose had been changed to a "Spanish Only" language format...I about lost it! I was able to navigate my purchase without changing machines. I raised hell with the girl that was monitoring the area, but of course I was wasting my time.

The point is...I found myself hating Bush even more for his rotten spick-lovin policies and failures. If I was to vote - it would have to be that rich prick Kerry. It is this kind of thing that sways votes, not some worthless scripted debate.

Gladius
10-01-2004, 09:32 AM
Kinda hypocritical of Bush when he denounces Syria's open border with Iraq, but not the USA's with Mexico.

Antiochus Epiphanes
10-01-2004, 10:42 AM
King Tiger is both right and wrong.

Rightthat Bush looked like an idiot and Kerry whipped him.

Wrong that Kerrry will win. No, Bush will win the election and in the mind of the stupid lemmings, Bush probably won the debate too. That is how stupid the average American is: they listen to an inarticulate buffoon like Bush spit out platitudes like "it is necessary that we win the war on terrror" and "you cant change positions and win the war on terror" and think that he is a good leader.

The fact is democracy is a sham and Americans are more idiotic and confused than ever. This is a composite of two main factors namely niggerification of our gene pool and secondly absolute cultural breakdown and social atomization of the worst kind.

Finally, Bush will win because some of the smartest Jew money is riding on Hillary in 2008.

White Will
10-01-2004, 10:56 AM
I didn't watch the staged circus show. I can't bring myself to validate the quadrennial scam by participating in it, much less can I stomach TV script-readers and authority figures "analyzing" and spinning things for Tweedle-Dee or Twiddle-Dum.

All I can think when reading this thread is that I'd give my left nut if we could put together a "McGlaughlin and gang"-type, hour-long topical TV panel discussion of the presidential debate, with the panel and moderator made up exclusively of the wide-eyed and honest, angry White commentators from this thread. Dynamite! Imagine, all else being equal, if the White voting man were exposed to just ONE show like this EVERY day, on just ONE international Al-Jezeera-like TV network, and that he might, therefore, start looking at his world through focused White eyes rather than through the egalitarian lens of our sheeny media masters?

The upcoming election is out of our hands, as is most else. America's/Israel's enemies hold the key. It's a dangerous game predicting the outcome of elections, especially American presidential elections that always go down to the wire as a controlled "toss-up," with the suggestible conditioned electorate divided pretty much in half. I agree with Paul, however. If some smart militant Arab/Muslim doesn't blow something big up here just before the election, as they did so effectively in Spain just prior to their election, and if the Jew media don't torpedo him, then the wheels just might stay on the Republican Bush machine through one more presidential cycle (remember that the ungrateful Jews derailed Daddy Bush, even though he took us to war against Saddam for them, because he dared to deny Israel the paltry $10 billion in loan guarantees that they demanded). With undeniable demographic trends adverse to the interests of the White majority, and being as Whites are still willing to give up their birthrights by foolishly participating in a multi-racial mobocracy as "equals," it's just a matter of time before Whites will be outvoted by the liberal/Jew/mud/feminist/queer coalition.

FACT!: Our only solution is White revolution, not "democratic" hogwash. That's what our people need to hear. It's great to realize that we are spontaneously developing such eloquent spokesmen as you in at least one place -- VNN -- who think racially 24/7. We know how appealing and communicable our logical, rational ideas are once our people are exposed to them unopposed, un"balanced" with Jew double-talk. Our people need to be able to hear us every day on every subject, even if only on VNNF for now. Dr. Pierce had it right by concentrating on building our own mass media for getting out our consistent, unadulterated, unapologetically pro-White word.

[QUOTE=Paul]Sorry, folks. Some of you are too smart for your own good. Bush is going to lose, period. Remember, Gore actually won the popular vote in 2000. And Bush hasn't picked up any more votes with Jew War III. Also, in the four years since 2000, the minority population has increased more than the White population and they hate Bush even more than we do. Say good-bye to Goy Bush and hello to John Kohn.[/QUOTE]

White Will
10-01-2004, 09:34 PM
[QUOTE=Rounder]Good to see you back on VNNforum, Will. I managed to stomach about 30 minutes of that jew-orchestrated so-called debate, but no more. Buchanan kicked off in 2000, and Nader in 2004. Hope you've read Nader's Aug 11 "Israel-bashing" letter to the ADL, BTW. JB112 posted it couple days ago on VNN (under Proposal for VNN tabloid). Nader really stuck it to um.

Incidently, speaking of VNN's tabloid, Alex selected every article for it, and it has a target audience, ie., college-types and "better educated" White males.
Rather than confusing and mis-directing, therefore deceptive "stuff". The selected articles are listed on pages l2, l3, and 22 of that thread, if you're interested in analyizing them for insight. I know how you frown on "shot-gunning" and "Blunder-busting".

Edberg is back too, and in tip-top "angry White man" demeamor. Happy days are here again.[/QUOTE]

Your VNN tabloid project is great! I'll check out those pages. Any collaboration between you and Alex and his stable of first rank contributors has success written all over it. As soon as I finish paying Dr. Bob the $500 I pledged to him last month to help him get out his Thunderbolts of Truth, I'll kick in for your worthwhile project.

My main criticism of the random shotgun or blunderbuss method of distributing all sorts of contradictory messages of various quality from both the biological racists and the Xian patriots, to the same people, is that it sends a confusing mixed message. I'm sure the hard line, thoughful VNN propaganda will be received like an icepick to the target's heart, not like a scattergun from 50 yards.

hateemall
10-03-2004, 12:39 AM
[QUOTE=King_Tiger]Well in that first debate I'd say that John the Jew Kerry gave George the Jew lackey Bush the ass-whupping of his lifetime. I laughed at nearly everything Bush threw out there. It was made painfully obvious that he doesn't even know exactly what his own policies are, which is of course because all important decisions in his admin are made by the top ZOG neocon brass. Bush is just a mouthpeice; an ignorant sock puppet who is good for throwing out an occasional sound byte or two.

I've said this before and I'll say it again; Kohn will win big come November, just watch.

For those keeping score at home, Bush got his clock cleaned in round one of three.[/QUOTE]
From Drudge ... ;-)




XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX

KERRY ON ORANGE ALERT: SKIN TRANSITION ON EVE OF DEBATE

Just days before Dem presidential hopeful John Kerry is set to take the stage in a debate opener projected to be seen by 70 million, photos show the senator dramatically taking on color.

Is it the late September Wisconsin sun during debate prep that has turned Kerry's face to rich pumpkin-colored hues?

Or has he been campaigning in the rust-belt?

Kerry advisers defend the sudden deep tan transition, noting how it simply was from a game of flag football last Friday in Bedford, Mass.

But the College Democrats who met Kerry were surprised by his rich tan glow -- before the game even began, the HARVARD CRIMSON reports.



-----------------------------------------------------------
Filed By Matt Drudge

Kerry On Orange Alert! Preens With "ManTan" Treatment For Bush Encounter.


Posted on 09/28/2004 9:17:38 AM PDT by InfantryMarine


I guess this must be the photo equivalent to: "I voted for a natural a tan (ManTan no less!) ... before ... I vote for a forged one!"

Note to the Prince of Boston:

Hop on down to Crawford, TX; grab a chain-saw, get a little dirt under those perfectly manicured nails, along with a little grit in that $200 'Christoph' coiffed "Do"; and you just may pull off looking the rugged, outdoorsy, manly, type.

By the way, we heard you were in Vietnam. That true?

Whatta Putz!