I have been in contact with several members here in Kansas, and just wanted to know what others think.

viable for embarrassing other Whites? or what?

I guess I was wondering if people feel they help the movement or hurt it. I know they hold Rallies, and I have been to a few. But is holding rallies the way they do, productive or counter-productive.

[QUOTE=kansas14]I have been in contact with several members here in Kansas, and just wanted to know what others think.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=3]The micro-"fuehrer" Jeff Schlepp is a felon, and an all-around degenerate.[/SIZE]

[QUOTE=norcalnative1971][SIZE=3]The micro-"fuehrer" Jeff Schlepp is a felon, and an all-around degenerate.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Prove it.

It is real easy to sling mud. I have yet to see anywhere on this forum any proof of these allegations.

Prove it. It is real easy to sling mud. I have yet to see anywhere on this forum any proof of these allegations.The mods don't believe in requiring a VNN member to prove his rotten slanders. On a regular basis, members are slandered as "Jews" without a single micron of proof, just "opinion". I know, since I'm currently in Moderation Cell Block 1488 for daring to defend myself against the slanderous sputum spit up by some homo-looking asshole named "JohnAFlynn".

All I can say, VB, is don't hold your breath.

I am not asking the mods to make them prove anything. The posters of this drivel haven't proved the allegations. The burden of proof is on them. I suppose they are just going to make allegations until people just accept it as truth. No, not going to hold my breath either. :D

The NSM goes about it with a different approach from all the PC ass kissing groups. They have the balls to go out in public with news cameras filming to march and give speeches in full stormtrooper uniform! I respect that! I respect almost all W.N. orgs. The only good diversity is the diversity of W.N. groups!

Done.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=127561&postcount=1

If I recall correctly convicted felons cannot run for public office. I guess this leaves the "commander" out of the Presidential race! :D

[QUOTE=VONBLUVENS]Prove it.

It is real easy to sling mud. I have yet to see anywhere on this forum any proof of these allegations.[/QUOTE]

It's not like he sent 1,000 troops to their deaths for a lie. Try using some perspective. While I would not encourage illegality, I would expect someone swimming against the tide to incur some penalties along the way. Real or imagined.
I hope when that Knight in Shining Armour that everyon's waiting for arrives, you'll recognize him.

[QUOTE=Whirlwind]It's not like he sent 1,000 troops to their deaths for a lie. Try using some perspective. While I would not encourage illegality, I would expect someone swimming against the tide to incur some penalties along the way. Real or imagined.
I hope when that Knight in Shining Armour that everyon's waiting for arrives, you'll recognize him.[/QUOTE]

I am not convinced he did anything wrong. Hitler was arrested and placed in jail, had the stigma of being a so-called criminal. He was accused of all sorts of things.

I get the feeling if the net was around during the 20s and 30s someone like gutterball would be calling Hitler a criminal/felon and maybe even a Jew.

I am glad the NSM is rid of him. Which reminds me:
more dead wood like gutterball is going to be expelled*requiring resignation if you don't know what I mean* from the group soon.


:)

[QUOTE=VONBLUVENS]I am not convinced he did anything wrong. [/QUOTE]

A classic sign of someone who is mentally ill (like Levins is), deny the facts, claim a frame-up etc, classic sign of paranoia denial. Schoep has been convicted of several crimes which Schoep admitted to in a local newspaper. Schoep simply defended his criminal past by saying "it was in the past, doesn't matter today". Schoep's arrest record according the same paper list him as being "umemployed" Oh, he was the leader of the NSM while committing these crimes.

Proof:
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4999507.html

So Levins is basically calling Schoep a liar since Schoep acknowledged his crimes. But remember folks, Levins has never shown up at a single rally even the DC one held by Roper that was a 3 hour drive from his house.

Schoep is a convicted criminal. Multiple times. His crime rate at 100% is higher than any ethnic group in America including blacks & hispanics.

Wow, I guess that's pretty convincing proof:

"...While Schoep says he promotes clean living and responsibility, he has a string of misdemeanors, including for fifth-degree assault, which was dropped; driving violations, and a charge of placing obscene materials on cars, also dropped. The most serious charge, a 1998 felony arrest in Sherburne County, was for aiding and abetting a burglary. Schoep pleaded guilty and was given probation.

At the time he was listed as unemployed and living with his girlfriend and her four children. He was commander of the NSM then. According to court documents, Schoep was with the mother of his daughter when she stole $4,000 worth of computer equipment from a home. Four children, one of them Schoep's, were in the back seat of the car.

Though Schoep's daughter said her father had gone into the house with her mother, he denied it. He asked the judge to lower his crime to a misdemeanor.

Concluding Schoep's hearing, District Judge Sharon Hall admonished him for accusing minorities of the very behaviors he was engaged in.

"I know that [your] organization does not condone lying under oath," Hall said. "It does not condone fathering children around the countryside and taking no financial responsibility for them. And it does not condone the commission of crimes. I also know that your organization believes that there are various minority groups in this country that do that on a regular basis."

I was never much impressed with Commandante Skip much to begin with, now I can see why he doesnt mind registered sex offenders being part of the crew either.

Jails are full of people who didnt do it ya know.

"I know that [your] organization does not condone lying under oath," Hall said. "It does not condone fathering children around the countryside and taking no financial responsibility for them. And it does not condone the commission of crimes. I also know that your organization believes that there are various minority groups in this country that do that on a regular basis."


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[QUOTE=kansas14]I guess I was wondering if people feel they help the movement or hurt it. I know they hold Rallies, and I have been to a few. But is holding rallies the way they do, productive or counter-productive.[/QUOTE]

Rallies are a not a tool, they are an action. The actions we use should be well thought out and for pushing our White issues forward. What the NSM does is setting us back because they are not carrying out the rallies with any specific reason behind them other than free publicity. Counter-Productive is all I can think on this because I've seen how it is carried out from the permits to the final speakers.

At times it will be helpful to our Cause if we have rallies, they shouldn't be ruled out. They should be used to whip the enemy. What I see is that it's like an armed soldier running around shooting into the air. That wastes ammunition and isn't going to hit anything vital unless it's by luck. What we need are snipers. The types of rallies that can make a difference. So far we have a simple issue like rallies or no rallies. That's not even reasonable because we can't rule out any weapon against ZOG, but we sure can't go out and hold rallies for no reason every month just to demand our people show up and waste money on travel and everything else, not to mention the surveillance they are exposed to by ZOG. It's like showing off our soldiers before the battle. Even in Iraq they know enough to wear masks at rallies. What the NSM is doing is a mockery to real activism and should be discouraged. Truely advocating on behalf of our race is welcomed and we need a lot more of it.

Vote NO on the NSM Show.

[QUOTE=VONBLUVENS]I am not convinced he did anything wrong. Hitler was arrested and placed in jail, had the stigma of being a so-called criminal. He was accused of all sorts of things.
[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=3]Hitler was accused of treason, which is a POLITICAL "crime."

Jeff Schlepp pled guilty to a common felony.[/SIZE]

Yes, it is clear. To get out our message we must hide and wait. FOR WHAT?! When the gov't. says "don't cross that line", and our survival is on the other side of it, some are going to get clipped. Because we must cross it.
Seriuosly, a shotgun approach to getting out our message is what we have available. Till we get that "elephant gun" of momentum, it would be foolish to not to use what is available. These groups are voluntary. Awfully presumptious to tell them what to do. If they refuse your oversight, what will be your recourse?

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes] According to court documents, Schoep was with the mother of his daughter when she stole $4,000 worth of computer equipment from a home. Four children, one of them Schoep's, were in the back seat of the car.[/QUOTE]

This is as low as it gets. Committing a crime is one thing but to bring along CHILDREN while doing it is totally (can't think of a bad enough word). This is the type of shit Vonbluvens has been reduced to having as "friends". A Schoep had to call his own child a liar in court. Regardless if you are a nazi, Jews, black, etc, you have to admit, this is total shit for a human being.

Admittidly that sounds bad. So bad in fact as to be out of character. Which makes me suspect there are aspects to this conviction that are not straight-up. Like a personal matter.

They have a costume fetish, and barely speak of an true NSDAP ideology whatsoever, I think White Revolutions biggest flaw is aligning themselves with such freaks.

Why does all this agitation strike me as bench-warmers envy of the quarterback? Use all that energy to build your own model. Right now you are taking the debate position of sworn enemies. Did you go to Valley Forge to stand with the opposition, since you feel so strongly about it? " No, that would be ridiculous, not the same as me bitching here."

The swastika alone holds negative value for the entire movement. It is a symbol misrepresented by history, plagued by controversy, and deemed extremist by many whites who would otherwise be supportive of the cause. The symbol should be dropped from banners and flags during public rallies and protests.

Because it has been misrepresented by jews, is not a good reason to abandon one of our most potent symbols. With one breath you say it has great strength. With the next you say it should be cut loose. Do you see the contradiction there?

The primary cause of failure in every racial organization that I’ve observed is the lack of a strong message. I’ve met very few racists that haven’t run afoul of the law in one way or another. Although I have not, I know many that have – more that have violated some law than haven’t.

The other side of the equation is that most of those I’ve observed that have stayed out of jail are inevitably cowards. More than the jailbirds, it’s the cowards who’ll always drag down an organization. From what I’ve seen, the backstabbing comes from the cowards.

If the racial message is strong enough, then any leader will only run afoul the political correctness laws. Our purpose should not be to persecute leaders for past behavior but rather to ensure that future behavior is RACIALLY CORRECT.

The NSM has been putting out very RACIALLY CORRECT messages. Fielding RACIALLY CORRECT rallies can only be conducted by viable strong leaders. It takes a whole lot more guts to wear your belief on your sleeve, in the full light of day, in the open, in the direct presence of the enemy, than simply yacking through a computer keyboard. From what I’ve been seeing Commander Jeff Schlepp has been very much putting good racial message on target. The fact is that his website looks cool and is frequently updated. Go take a look. http://www.nsm88.com/

My apologies. It should be “Schoep.” The bust is mine, beat me with a wet noodle, and all that. I'm sorry I mispelled Commander Schoep's name.