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sean(doc)martin
10-09-2004, 01:54 AM
I know this Nazi that goes by the screen name of A. White Man and he believes the holocaust really happened. As a matter of fact he basks in the holocaust when talking to Jews or the like he says something like “Hitler may be dead but he got six and a half million before he died”.

It seems common to people now that Adolf Hitler has another last name and it is “killed six million Jews”.

I noticed David Duke is not recognizing that the holocaust happened.

So if it did happen then The Great One took Six Million Vermin with him, but if it didn’t happen then the Jews have hijacked the world on a complete lie.

I haven’t seen enough evidence to prove it actually happened.

Anima Eternae
10-09-2004, 01:57 AM
I know this Chinese girl who thinks it happened, and says its one of the best things that happened. :confused:

6 million is definately bullshit. I'd put the number maybe at around 2 million, and I don't really buy the gas chamber things...


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Heinrich Himmler SS
10-09-2004, 02:12 AM
This is how I see it. The NSDAP saw the Jewish threat in their land and did something about it. They asked other countries to take Germany's Jews and the countries wouldn't co-operate because they wanted the Jews sent to kosher only countries like Poland but Germany said no. Germany was trying to take Poland back as their own land so why send Jews to the newly added land of Deutschland? :rolleyes: Sinse nobody would take these German-Jewish citizens the German government rounded them all up and sent them to concentration camps to do labour. WW2 started around this time and so did a depression you could say. There was a shortage of supplies & food for the German soldiers fighting the war in harsh winter conditions so they made sure the soldiers got what little there was before the Jewish prisoners did. Because of this Jews, Poles and Gypsies starved to death. When you bunch up dirty people into small shacks, like they did at Auschwitz etc, you have a bunch of dirty people really close together so head lice spread. The germans shaved their prisoner's heads to fight lice. They got Zyklon-B to clean the prisoners and their clothes which explains the so-called "gas chambers". They couldn't bury all of these bodies that started to pile up but they tried their best by cremation to burn the diseased bodies to stop the disease from spreading. Sometimes prisoners broke the law or tried to escape so they were executed. Some people WANT to believe the Holocaust happened but that doesn't mean they really believe in it. It's more of a 'haha Hitler killed kikes" mentality. Germany had all of it's Jewish citizens in those camps which is millions of people when you think an entire race of a nation it's going to add up in the millions. The count right now is that 1.5 million Jews died which is a pretty low number if you think about it and even that number hasn't been proven to be fact. Jews born today consider themselves Holocaust survivors!

Anima Eternae
10-09-2004, 02:18 AM
Jews born today consider themselves Holocaust survivors!


Yes, the holocaust allows even the most wealthy and sublime of jews to claim quintessential victim status.



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Franco
10-09-2004, 03:01 AM
[QUOTE=Anima Eternae]Yes, the holocaust allows even the most wealthy and sublime of jews to claim quintessential victim status.



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http://www.corax.org/revisionism/nonsense/19970813survivors.html




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8Man
10-09-2004, 04:38 AM
The jews 'holocaust' fable is useful for them in several aspects. It provides much of the rationale for the existance of the state of Israel. They use it as a blackmail tool- primarily against Germany, to extract billions in so-called reparations payments.

Many Germans are ashamed of their heritage due to incessant psychological warfare against them based on fraudulent 'holocaust' allegations. Germans accept race-mixing, massive non-white immigration, sexual deviancy, etc.. because they don't want to be accused of being 'racist' - since 'racists' killed 6M jews, etc.. Jews also use their 'holocaust' to justify their obnoxious behavior in many other areas.

The best evidence I'm aware of places the number of jews that died of all causes during WW II around 300K - 500K. Since jews have been more than amply paid for their alledged 'holocaust', it's about time that they actually get one.

If you're interested in researching the jews claim that [COLOR=Navy]Hitler personally ordered exactly 6.0M jews gassed and turned into soap bars and lamp shades[/COLOR], check out the following sites. Zundelsite (http://www.zundelsite.org), I H R (http://www.ihr.org), V H O (http://www.vho.org/)

No honest, educated person can believe the jews 'holocaust' claims.

http://www.betar.co.uk/articles/pictures/dead_jews_cart.jpg

According to the jewess, 'holocaust' promoter, Debra Lipstadt "The real purpose of holocaust revisionism is to make National Socialism an acceptable political alternative again." .. which could account for some of their antipathy against anyone who effectively questions their dogma.

sean(doc)martin
10-09-2004, 05:15 AM
Simple Arithmetic vs. the 6 Million Myth
by Liberty Bell Publications, [SIZE=3]Reedy, W. Virginia[/SIZE]

Having read emotional letters from Jewish
writers in the press, I feel compelled to
comment myself.

I am acquainted with military history and have
read substantially on the subject. One Jewish
writer stated that he was not even alive at the
time of the Second World War. As another
writer stated, there are always two sides to the
coin. Well, I was not alive at that time either,
so it follows that the only source of
information available to the post-war
generations is history as it was written down
for us.

History has not and never will be recorded
objectively, as every historian writes
according to his own subjective view and in
his own book will try to prove his own thesis.

The mass-murder of six million Jews,
however, is a myth. This is admitted and
proved primarily by British and American
authors, and while withholding my own
views, here is some information to consider:
According to evidence led in a paper entitled
"The Third Reich", three to four million Jews
were murdered in Auschwitz alone. This is
mathematically impossible. Auschwitz was in
operation for four years. Let's assume only
three million people were killed here -- in one
year, that would be 750,000 or 62,500 a
month -- or 2,083 a day!

According to the German Christian
Democratic delegate, Eric Blumenfeld of
Hamburg, who was incarcerated at Auschwitz,
killings only took place at night, for reasons of
secrecy -- a period of 12 hours. Thus, 2,082
people should have been killed every 12 hours
out of 24 for 1,460 days (four years).

Assuming the corpses were buried, and seeing
that sand is four tenths heavier than the human
body (proportionately), at an average of 50
kilograms per body, 70 kilograms of sand
would be displaced per corpse [a kilogram is
equal to 2.2 pounds for practical purposes]. At
2,083 bodies a day, with a corpse mass of
104.2 metric tons, this would be 145.8 metric
tons of soil to be removed daily!

In four years, assuming there were "only" 3
million bodies buried, this would leave
212,868 metric tons of soil piled up
somewhere. Where is it? There is also the
argument that the bodies were burned (also a
mathematical impossibility). The calculations
are based on figures and evidence from the
ultra-modern and efficient crematorium at
Dortmund in Germany. To burn one corpse
completely requires 31˝ kilograms of coal.

The 2,083 people allegedly killed in
Auschwitz daily would have required more
than 65 metric tons of coal, which was
extremely valuable to the war effort -- each
day. For Germany, this was impossible.

Burning the bodies was impossible for another
reason. In the most modern crematoriums
today, one body requires about 2˝ hours to be
completely cremated. Even if Auschwitz had
had 100 burning chambers, the 3 million
corpses would have taken 15 years to cremate,
burning only in the 12-hour period each day.

Each body produces on average 2 kilograms
of ash. Three million corpses would create
6,000 metric tons of ash. This ash, all 6,000
metric tons of it would make quite a heap.

Where were all these ash-heaps after the war?

In closing, I would like to add that all
recorded history is on paper and on paper you
can write anything, even that 6 million Jews
were killed. Paper is patient! °



Yet another fantastic thing to come from WVA.

Augustus Sutter
10-09-2004, 09:37 AM
[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]I know this Nazi that goes by the screen name of A. White Man and he believes the holocaust really happened. As a matter of fact he basks in the holocaust when talking to Jews or the like he says something like “Hitler may be dead but he got six and a half million before he died”.

It seems common to people now that Adolf Hitler has another last name and it is “killed six million Jews”.

I noticed David Duke is not recognizing that the holocaust happened.

So if it did happen then The Great One took Six Million Vermin with him, but if it didn’t happen then the Jews have hijacked the world on a complete lie.

I haven’t seen enough evidence to prove it actually happened.[/QUOTE]

I never met a Christian who did not believe in the Holohoax, but I suppose if you believe in Jewish fairy-tales about a Jew who could walk on water you'll buy the Holohoax yarn.

Odin
10-09-2004, 05:07 PM
Millions died during WWII, and a few of them were jews.The jews that died did so either through starvation/disease in the camps, or were executed for insurrection. Most jews died of the former. A relatively small number of jews in Poland and Russia died of the latter (one or 2 of such executions were filmed and are now played on tv ad nauseum, to the point where most lemmings actually believe they have seen video footage of a million murders). The total number of dead jews during hitlers reign was likely no more than half a million.

Jason
10-09-2004, 07:35 PM
I picked "Around two hundred thousand Jews died in WWII" because it was closest to the conclusion I've drawn from the data I've seen, which is that the figure was somewhere around the neighborhood of 400,000.

Spandau
10-09-2004, 07:51 PM
VNN folk,

I have just wrote a website devoted to the German Army in the Second World War.

In the preamble of the site He wrote this:

"In the final anaylysis, the German nation was responsible for the Second World War. Whatever harsh penalties may have been meted out at Versailles, there is no escaping this. The German people are responsible for the deaths of some 10 to 12 million innocent civilians in gas chambers and mass shootings. Many of these deaths were accompanied by public humiliation, torture, and inhumane medical experiments."

I responded to this preamble with this;

"Dear Mr. Dorosh,

Just taking the time to write and say great job on the LANDSER website! I have learned some new things from it. Especially about NCO and Officer Canidates. A great resource all around!

I have some questions concerning the preamble of the site. It has to do with these sentences;

"The German people are responsible for the deaths of some 10 to 12 million innocent civilians in gas chambers and mass shootings. Many of these deaths were accompanied by public humiliation, torture, and inhumane medical experiments."

1. 10-12 Million civilians murdered by the Wehrmacht? Do You have proof of this? Where did You get these numbers?

2. Do You have proof that the so-called "Gas Chambers" actually existed in the early 40's?

I write this as a student of history. I'm not here to give You a bad time. I just thought those were bold statements for things that have yet to be proven.


Thank You for Your time,"

To which He responded;

"You need to read the sentence you quoted. I did not say the Wehrmacht, I said the German people are responsible for the Holocaust. The Wehrmacht's guilt was largely indirect and, to a large degree, hard to determine with any accuracy. What cannot be doubted is the overall responsibility of the German people, in other words, the entire nation, who have acknowledged this guilt since the end of the war.

The gas chambers were admitted to on the stand by Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz, at Nuremburg, and I would recommend you visit the online transcripts of the War Crimes Trials held by the International Tribunal in 1946. There is plenty of other evidence among the trial transcripts.

These are matters of historical fact, unless you can point me to a sensible refutation of same. The numbers may be in some doubt and are a matter of some controversy, but again, this is a minor quibble given the admissions at Nuremburg of the grand scale of the killing operations; Hoess alone admitted to the extermination of persons in his charge numbering in the 7 digit range.

Thanks for the interest."

I wanted to pick peoples brains here and see if anyone here has any good links etc. to help me with this. Any thoughts?

Cracker oftheWhip
10-09-2004, 08:15 PM
http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/zionist_silencing_machine.htm
[color=black][font=Verdana]Linking to sites that deal with that topic are almost overwhelmingly WN type sites and he'd likely dismiss them outright. This one though, may help you out if you follow his links as well as take the information on the page listed.[/font][/color]

Intrepid
10-09-2004, 08:24 PM
[QUOTE=Spandau]VNN folk,

I have just wrote a website devoted to the German Army in the Second World War.

In the preamble of the site He wrote this:

"In the final anaylysis, the German nation was responsible for the Second World War. Whatever harsh penalties may have been meted out at Versailles, there is no escaping this. The German people are responsible for the deaths of some 10 to 12 million innocent civilians in gas chambers and mass shootings. Many of these deaths were accompanied by public humiliation, torture, and inhumane medical experiments."

I responded to this preamble with this;

"Dear Mr. Dorosh,

Just taking the time to write and say great job on the LANDSER website! I have learned some new things from it. Especially about NCO and Officer Canidates. A great resource all around!

I have some questions concerning the preamble of the site. It has to do with these sentences;

"The German people are responsible for the deaths of some 10 to 12 million innocent civilians in gas chambers and mass shootings. Many of these deaths were accompanied by public humiliation, torture, and inhumane medical experiments."

1. 10-12 Million civilians murdered by the Wehrmacht? Do You have proof of this? Where did You get these numbers?

2. Do You have proof that the so-called "Gas Chambers" actually existed in the early 40's?

I write this as a student of history. I'm not here to give You a bad time. I just thought those were bold statements for things that have yet to be proven.


Thank You for Your time,"

To which He responded;

"You need to read the sentence you quoted. I did not say the Wehrmacht, I said the German people are responsible for the Holocaust. The Wehrmacht's guilt was largely indirect and, to a large degree, hard to determine with any accuracy. What cannot be doubted is the overall responsibility of the German people, in other words, the entire nation, who have acknowledged this guilt since the end of the war.

The gas chambers were admitted to on the stand by Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz, at Nuremburg, and I would recommend you visit the online transcripts of the War Crimes Trials held by the International Tribunal in 1946. There is plenty of other evidence among the trial transcripts.

These are matters of historical fact, unless you can point me to a sensible refutation of same. The numbers may be in some doubt and are a matter of some controversy, but again, this is a minor quibble given the admissions at Nuremburg of the grand scale of the killing operations; Hoess alone admitted to the extermination of persons in his charge numbering in the 7 digit range.

Thanks for the interest."

I wanted to pick peoples brains here and see if anyone here has any good links etc. to help me with this. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Spandau,

For the "gas-chambers" look up Fred Lecther on the subject. Here's a snippet of his infamous report: http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5XdUfGhBjjoA51xrCqMX;_ylu=X3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=1141iq4sk/**http%3a//www.mfhr.org/lechter.htm

Most of the testimonies of the SS men involved in the camps was acquired through torture & various forms of deprivation, just as they did to Leibstandarte members for Malmedy. Irving has a slew on the subject in his index: http://www.fpp.co.uk/mainindex.html

The best overall resource is, of course, the IHR: http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5XN2fmhBs0sAmCRrCqMX;_ylu=X3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=10ou4sois/**http%3a//www.ihr.org/ Pick this one up: http://www.noontidepress.com/catalog/0687.html as it will show you what we are up against here in trying to deal with the subject matter honestly. Also: http://www.noontidepress.com/catalog/0389.html I found of interest.

All in all, the subject is rather boring to me; however, it's worth looking into the methods - other than thought crimes - that been employed to shut off meaningful discourse on the subject.

Further, the gentleman who you spoke with, might be in Europe ( I don't know) and thought you were baiting him on the subject, as it's a crime to discuss it there. Just a thought...

Spandau
10-09-2004, 09:50 PM
Hey Cracker and Intrepid!

Thanks so much for the links! This helps me greatly. I'll let You know how it goes...........

Ps. He is in Canada. For all I know they have the same Semitically Correct laws. The whole "Holohoax" theme bores my pants off. However when I see Semitically Correct horseshit such as this I rebel.

Intrepid
10-09-2004, 09:57 PM
Ps. He is in Canada. For all I know they have the same Semetically Correct laws.

Yep. Thank god for 1776.

Spandau
10-09-2004, 10:13 PM
[QUOTE=Intrepid]Yep. Thank god for 1776.[/QUOTE]

Amen Brother!

sean(doc)martin
10-09-2004, 11:28 PM
[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]I never met a Christian who did not believe in the Holohoax, but I suppose if you believe in Jewish fairy-tales about a Jew who could walk on water you'll buy the Holohoax yarn.[/QUOTE]
Who said I believe it happened? What are you talking about and what does Christianity have to do with this thread?

Are you drunk or something?

Didn’t you even read the post you quoted it refutes the holohoax.

bizmark
10-10-2004, 01:56 AM
I pretty much take the David Duke stance on the subject. I know he didn't come up with it, but I think it's where I first read it. Anyway, basically I think that 1) a lot of Jews died, possibly over a million; 2) they often died under miserable conditions in labor camps; 3) they were rounded up and removed from their homes in Europe to be placed in these camps.

I do NOT believe that there were ever any large gas chambers, or any planned mass killings of any kind. There might have been occasions when a few hundred were shot at one time and their bodies pushed into mass graves, but this was rare. There might have even been experimental gas chambers that held small numbers of people. But I believe that the majority of Jews who died in the camps in WWII died from disease, starvation, Allied bombings, etc. which is not at all surprising since Germans, Poles, Czechs, Romanians, French etc. were all dying of the same things, if not in the same numbers.

Augustus Sutter
10-10-2004, 08:55 AM
[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]Who said I believe it happened? What are you talking about and what does Christianity have to do with this thread?

Are you drunk or something?

Didn’t you even read the post you quoted it refutes the holohoax.[/QUOTE]

I did not say YOU believed it. I said I never met a Christian who did not believe it. You act as if this is big news. I don't need your post to fill me in on the Holohoax. It has relevance because grinning, dumb-ass Christians accept with glee any ass-reaming the Jews chose to give them. The Churches openly teach the Holohoax lie. If I am drunk, I'll eventually sober up. You on the other hand will always be dim-witted.

Spandau
10-10-2004, 03:59 PM
Ok, I wrote our man Mike back with some further information. Here is my letter and his response:

"Thanks Mike for writing back,

On the subject of the Gas Chambers, here is a link to part of the Leuchter Report on said subject:

http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5X...org/lechter.htm

As for Kommandant Hoess, I have read that he was tortured by Allied Intelligence to extract that confession, as were many others. I will try to get a link to that shortly. Also I personally believe that it is impossible for a whole nation to have guilt for what is done in war. By the same token every Man, Woman and Child in the United States, of which I am a citizen, is directly responsible for war crimes say in Viet-Nam.

Further, may I direct You to the book "SS Panzergrenadier" written by Hans Schmidt. An eyeopener to say the least. It deals in small part with the Eisenhower POW camps where possibly 50,000 German Soldiers died after the war. I could go on but I will await Your response. I hope I'm not taking too much of Your time.

Thanks Mike!"

And here is his response:

"Hi S; I don't wish to discuss this further with you. Please don't contact me again; I am having your email address blocked from my server.

Mike"

If anyone is interested, here is the website address:

http://www.deutschesoldaten.com/

sean(doc)martin
10-10-2004, 04:25 PM
[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]I did not say YOU believed it. I said I never met a Christian who did not believe it. You act as if this is big news. I don't need your post to fill me in on the Holohoax. The Churches openly teach the Holohoax lie. If I am drunk, I'll eventually sober up. You on the other hand will always be dim-witted.[/QUOTE]
Who is talking about churches, I am talking about the holocaust. Did you come to this thread for the sole purpose of talking about Christianity?

I don't come to your threads and bother you, it is not like I was posting in another thread either. You saw my name you should have simply passed it up if you didn’t have anything to contribute.

bizmark
10-10-2004, 04:41 PM
[QUOTE=Spandau]
"Hi S; I don't wish to discuss this further with you. Please don't contact me again; I am having your email address blocked from my server.

Mike"[/QUOTE]

Ahaha what a pussy. Run and stick your head in the sand, Mike! You say you want the truth, but you can't handle the truth!

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=jacknich.mp3

Odin
10-10-2004, 04:43 PM
[QUOTE=Spandau
And here is his response:

"Hi S; I don't wish to discuss this further with you. Please don't contact me again; I am having your email address blocked from my server.

Mike"[/QUOTE]

Predictable response from someone thoroughly indoctrinated in their beliefs and unwilling to investigate the possibility that opposing views may have merit.

Intrepid
10-10-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by Spandau
..."Hi S; I don't wish to discuss this further with you. Please don't contact me again; I am having your email address blocked from my server.

Methinks he doesn't want to spend anytime with Zundel in a Canuckistan 12 x 12. If I lived in thought-crime land, I'd watch my backside, too.

Spandau
10-10-2004, 05:14 PM
[QUOTE=Intrepid]Methinks he doesn't want to spend anytime with Zundel in a Canuckistan 12 x 12. If I lived in thought-crime land, I'd watch my backside, too.[/QUOTE]

I thought about that too. If I were in his shoes I'd have been man enough to say so, as in: "I do not want to go into this any further as I am subject to Soviet Canadian Thought Crime Law SC#666-1. Thank You". or something like that.

Intrepid
10-10-2004, 05:37 PM
[QUOTE=Spandau]I thought about that too. If I were in his shoes I'd have been man enough to say so, as in: "I do not want to go into this any further as I am subject to Soviet Canadian Thought Crime Law SC#666-1. Thank You". or something like that.[/QUOTE]

On second thought, maybe he's just a collector geek. I checked out his site & it looks as if he's simply one of those uniform specialists. If his only books are on the Canadian military, I highly doubt he has any nationalist sympathies. The Canuck probably realized that the only books that sell are - duh - the cool krauthead stuff. Odd though, he mention Goldhagen in a slightly negative light, though.

My friend in Russia, sent me a couple of really slick uniform books with tons of pics I'd never seen before. One has all the various White Russian uniforms from their civil war, & the other has all the Ruskie volunteers from WWII. I wish I had a flatbed scanner, as I'm sure some of you all would enjoy it, but I don't.

Spandau
10-10-2004, 06:18 PM
[QUOTE=Intrepid]On second thought, maybe he's just a collector geek. I checked out his site & it looks as if he's simply one of those uniform specialists. If his only books are on the Canadian military, I highly doubt he has any nationalist sympathies. The Canuck probably realized that the only books that sell are - duh - the cool krauthead stuff. Odd though, he mention Goldhagen in a slightly negative light, though.

My friend in Russia, sent me a couple of really slick uniform books with tons of pics I'd never seen before. One has all the various White Russian uniforms from their civil war, & the other has all the Ruskie volunteers from WWII. I wish I had a flatbed scanner, as I'm sure some of you all would enjoy it, but I don't.[/QUOTE]

I think this little episode shows once again that there is no intellegent opposition to WN, or actual history.

Doppelhaken
10-10-2004, 06:22 PM
[QUOTE=Intrepid] I wish I had a flatbed scanner, as I'm sure some of you all would enjoy it, but I don't.[/QUOTE]

You do have a flatbed truck though, don't you? I was hoping you'd help me move that sofabed next weekend...

Intrepid
10-10-2004, 06:38 PM
[QUOTE=Doppelhaken]You do have a flatbed truck though, don't you? I was hoping you'd help me move that sofabed next weekend...[/QUOTE]

*obligatory yuck, yuck *

Nope, I've had Hondas since '87. Damn things are near indestructable.

Made in Ohio to boot, unlike much of the big 3's crap. Rice-burners forever, I say.

Hadding
10-10-2004, 10:30 PM
Before saying whether there was or was not a Holocaust, one has to say what this word is supposed to mean. It used to mean the deliberate and systematic attempt to kill all the Jews of Europe. For this, there is no evidence. Uninformed speculation about numbers lower than 6 million that might have "died in the Holocaust" is not helpful. Why concede that any number were victims of a systematic effort that is itself unproven? To say that some Jews "died in WorldWar II" is to say nothing about the Holohoax, which is not about merely dying in war or dying from typhus while incarcerated in a camp.

999
10-12-2004, 06:49 AM
Systematically murdered only because they were jews: 0

I voted for 200,000 though, because jews are not immortal and a number of them died prematurely in the war.

El Duce
10-12-2004, 09:42 AM
Whether 666, 666, jews were killed , or just 1" , propaganda machine foccus on the jews" , sentimentally". -don't fall for it.

Since ZOG had libeled the defeated Germans with their own Holohoax, to cover up the real atrocities of their making SWATKWP (second war at killing white people)


Use the Chinese aproach: ah so! 6 million? we lost 30 million of our brethern!

Antiochus Epiphanes
10-12-2004, 11:15 AM
[QUOTE=bizmark]I pretty much take the David Duke stance on the subject. I know he didn't come up with it, but I think it's where I first read it. Anyway, basically I think that 1) a lot of Jews died, possibly over a million; 2) they often died under miserable conditions in labor camps; 3) they were rounded up and removed from their homes in Europe to be placed in these camps.

I do NOT believe that there were ever any large gas chambers, or any planned mass killings of any kind. There might have been occasions when a few hundred were shot at one time and their bodies pushed into mass graves, but this was rare. There might have even been experimental gas chambers that held small numbers of people. But I believe that the majority of Jews who died in the camps in WWII died from disease, starvation, Allied bombings, etc. which is not at all surprising since Germans, Poles, Czechs, Romanians, French etc. were all dying of the same things, if not in the same numbers.[/QUOTE]

That is my view as well. Irving says maybe a million or a little more. If you look at the population stats for Axis controlled areas, before 39 and after 45, no way can you get 6 million. That is a load of crap; the gas chambers are fakes. but they sure in hell segregated and deported Jews to labor camps where under the stress of wartime conditions they caught typhus and died like flies.

There were massive liquidations of Jews in the east, but mostly because they were massive liquidations of Communist infrastructure who were mostly Jews. Calling that genocide is like calling the Pheonix program in South Vietnam genocide. It was aimed at VC infrastructure like the einsatzgruppen aimed their efforts at the boshevik infrastructure.

El Duce
10-12-2004, 11:56 AM
When the War broke out, many Jews were placed in camps, "Communist sympathizer" in order to protect the War effort, and the general population- just like the American -Japanese .BTW I think Hitler did a great service to the Jews by placing them in confinement centers from the angry mob when Judea declared war on Germany in 1933 , and the Japanese -American when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

El Duce
10-12-2004, 12:17 PM
At the end of the war, POW'S , jews, and others died from disease, typhus, starvation, malnutrition from lack of goods do to Allies bombing Infrastructures which the greater population of Germany and Europe suffered the most.

Bragi
10-12-2004, 01:40 PM
The jews claiming six million casualties is like a job-seeker making a two month job he was fired from into a six year experience when he goes to write up and present his resume.

A couple hundred thousand of them croaked because they were WEAK. The Holoco$t is a joke. A really bad jewish joke. Poo on them and poo on the Holohoax.

And this is my 1,000th post. I'm officially a senior member. Yippee.

sean(doc)martin
10-12-2004, 11:34 PM
[QUOTE=Bragi]
And this is my 1,000th post. I'm officially a senior member. Yippee.[/QUOTE]
I am honored you would make your 1,000th post on my thread while waving the confederate flag. :D

Heinrich Himmler SS
10-13-2004, 09:26 AM
[QUOTE=Spandau]And here is his response:

"Hi S; I don't wish to discuss this further with you. Please don't contact me again; I am having your email address blocked from my server.

Mike"

If anyone is interested, here is the website address:

http://www.deutschesoldaten.com/[/QUOTE]
How typical! :rolleyes: When antis/lemmings know we are right and they have nothing left to say they try to silence us. They run crying to mommy. Good work!

Hadding
10-15-2004, 06:26 AM
"Systematically murdered only because they were jews: 0

I voted for 200,000 though, because jews are not immortal and a number of them died prematurely in the war."

Dying as an indirect result of war, or being shot as a guerrilla or hanged as a saboteur, is not the same as being holocausted. Not at all. This is a confusion that allows the Holohoax to continue. Don't be a sucker by de facto conceding that there was a Holocaust by merely quibbling about the number of alleged Holocaust-victims.

El Duce
10-15-2004, 08:23 PM
http://www.exterminationist.com/glitchmatrix.jpg

El Duce
10-15-2004, 08:57 PM
http://www.heretical.com/ohrdruff/eternal3.jpgOne of the traits of the kike aside from extorting money from Whites is that they love to complain. This hooknosed shyster is moaning to the German officials that his bagels were not up to standard at breakfast.
Bad bagels at breakfast mean that the yid will be in a foul mood all day and God help any gentile forced to do business with the thieving parasite for he will attempt to rip them off more than usual as the kike feels it will compensate him for having a bad day.
It is truly remarkable that the kikes of today feel so much hatred for the Third Reich which attempted to do so much for them during the 1930's and 1940's. It just shows how twisted the reasoning this race of sub-human parasites are. Any normal race would have been very grateful for free holidays and bagels.

El Duce
10-15-2004, 09:20 PM
http://www.heretical.com/ohrdruff/jwbanned.gif

Proud White Guy
10-15-2004, 09:43 PM
Lets say the figure of 6 million was correct,and we are giving them the benefit of the doubt,but there were over 22milllion Russians that died in that war,and do you hear them crying like the jews???

I personally don't think there were 6 million jews on the planet at that time,so i think its bullshit

El Duce
10-15-2004, 09:56 PM
http://www.heretical.com/ohrdruff/schillng.jpgThis is Dr Klaus Karl Schilling, a wonderful Doctor who helped to keep the kikes healthy at Dachau. As more and more hebes arrived at Dachua to begin their wonderful free holiday they brought with them typhus infected jewish bodylice. This was a danger to the other holidaymakers and so Dr Schilling organized for the new arrivals to be deloused before the hooknoses could begin their holidays. The kikes resented this as the bodylice were jewish and as such no gentile had the right to fumigate them.

El Duce
10-15-2004, 10:07 PM
http://www.heretical.com/ohrdruff/hitler.jpgWelcome to the Heroes of the Third Reich Page. This image is of Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler reviewing SS troops who had the difficult task of making sure that kikes and other visitors to the Reich's Holiday resorts were well looked after as well as fighting a war against scumbag Zionist forces. They fought in all theatres of the war and really distinguished themselves on the Eastern Front where they gave the yid bolsheviks a lesson in fighting.

Cracker oftheWhip
10-15-2004, 10:11 PM
[size=4][color=blue]El Duce[/color][/size] I see you found the original. Where was it? That's the one to which I was refering to here. (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=116384#post116384)

El Duce
10-15-2004, 10:18 PM
[QUOTE=Cracker oftheWhip][size=4][color=blue]El Duce[/color][/size] I see you found the original. Where was it? That's the one to which I was refering to here. (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=116384#post116384)[/QUOTE] Right here, mate. http://www.heretical.com/ohrdruff/main.html check out the rest of the link, pretty interesting, and comical.

Cracker oftheWhip
10-15-2004, 10:45 PM
[QUOTE=El Duce]Right here, mate. http://www.heretical.com/ohrdruff/main.html check out the rest of the link, pretty interesting, and comical.[/QUOTE] I like his questions on the irony issues, comical indeed.
Funny, I've cruised through that site numerous times but never encountered that page.
Thanks El Duce.

El Duce
10-15-2004, 10:59 PM
http://www.heretical.com/holohoax/hoax01a.gif

Hadding
10-16-2004, 01:12 PM
Proud White Guy: "I personally don't think there were 6 million jews on the planet at that time,so i think its bullshit."

Thanks for your totally uninformed and worthless opinion.