In the latest issue of WAR, Metzger claims that if you state you are a White Racist that you'll likely get tossed out straightaway. But if that doesn't work (or if you just want to be sure), he says to get a small White Racist tattoo.

I did hear of a guy who was tossed out of the US military for having a "Fuck You" tattoo inked on the side of his right hand, so that when he saluted...there was the message, front and center. Maybe a updated version to our new multicult reality would have a swastika on both ends of the outer edge of the right hand, and simply but eloquently state either "Sieg Heil" or... a personalzed message for your potential nigger/spic drill instructor: "Fuck You, Nigger/Spic DI".

The F--- You salute is hilarious as can be, but what if having a racist tattoo gets us in a world of trouble if we get caught so much as looking at a non-white in a funny way.

Metzger seems to imply that a small racialist tattoo anywhere would do the trick. Surely, the more incendiary, the better. ...So a guy could have it on his torso or shoulder- just so he had one.

My cousin got out of the military during boot camp by acting as though he had a learning disability. That seems a safer way to avoid serving the enemy than advertising your "hate."

Wait for your physical and tell them that you are "hearing voices"...

Works every time!

Ohhhh, yeeaaaahh, I am sure that a racial tattoo would indeed get a young man out of the draft. Or kicked out of the service. It would also cause the Feds to start a political file on the boy involved, and if it was too visible it would ban the boy from higher education, vocational education, and any kind of decent employment for life. Just what our Movement needs more of--more embittered shaven-headed men in their 30s who never got a chance to grow out of their Skinhead phase because they defaced their bodies with tattoos and did stupid illegal things when they were 18. Guys who are now flipping burgers and pushing broom and spending their nights getting drunk and maudlin, because they listened to Tom Metzger in their teenaged years.

We already have quite enough of those, thank you, including the ones in prison. I know that Metzger makes a profit out of destroying these kids so he can sell more videotapes and toys on his website and in his puerile rag, but Jeez Louise! Does he actually sit around THINKING UP new ways to wreck White kids' lives? Does he get some kind of horrible old man's kick out of it?

-Bob Rudisill

I think that Tom's idea is a good one, for those who do not want to be sent to a far-away place to fight and possibly die for the ZOG.
Given the way that the American army is screeching to a halt in a train wreck (in terms of its operational capability) the dead hand of the ZOG will reach ever deeper into families to take white American children as blood sacrifices for the Jew.
If a white power tattoo will keep you out of the draft, I say do it . . . and I am a former armoured corps (mounted infantry) officer.
The ZOG does not want politically and racially aware white people in its military, hence the purpose of the tattoos. It wants brainwashed lemmings who will wrap themselves in the flag and fight to preserve the status quo.
The only suggestion I would make about the tattoo would be to make it fairly small and on a part of the body that was not normally on view. That way it will not interefere with future employment prospects.
By law I could still get a tap on the should to go back into uniform, but I have taken the safety precaution of establishing a record of treatment with a psychiatrist (for depression). There is no way I could pass the medical once I told them that I had been treated for depression. The military is very particular when it comes to mental illness.

I guess Im set if Canada ever tries a draft! Ive got more then one WP tat, and they arent really small by any means (oh, and Im set to get some more soon, thinking of going in on Friday to get some work done if I can scrounge a few bucks) ;) heheh

I have a Celtic Cross on my upper left arm.

I'm torn on this issue: on the one hand, fighting for zionist warlords is anathema to White Nationalists; but, man, we need people on the inside: military, law enforcement, and, yes, the upper echelons of education.

[QUOTE=Vlad]Bad idea. They could potentially set up laser tattoo removal in basic training, make a permanent note of the racist offender, make sure that offender gets hardship duty and front lines combat, screw with his/her benefits and promotions, etc.[/QUOTE]

There is no legal authority to require at tatoo removal under current US law.Its unlikely that it would pass constitutional muster as even a penalty for a crime under the 8Th Amendment's "Cruel and Unusual " Punishment clause, let alone as amilitary fiat for draftees.Any court would tell the military that it would either have to take the draftees with their tatoos or not take them at all.

diablo

[QUOTE=Heinrich Himmler SS]I have a Celtic Cross on my upper left arm.[/QUOTE]

Then welcome to the army, son.

http://www.rotc.monroe.army.mil/helpdesk/enrollments-1/tattoo%20policy.htm

"Patently racist/extremist tattoos/brands include such language or symbols as "KKK" and swastikas."

During the early and mid-80s, Glenn Miller's White Patriot Party was recruiting so many active duty Marines from Camp Lejeune and Army soldiers from nearby Fort Bragg (both large military bases in North Carolina), that the Reagan administration was forced to take a stand on the issue, which I believe is still in force. Then Sec. of Defense Caspar Weinberger issued a policy directive to the Armed Forces to discharge (Usually under General Conditions) any serviceman who was actively involved, or a member, of any pro-white organization.

Numerous active-duty soldiers and Marines regularly marched with Rounder and the White Patriot Party during their many public marches, and they provided security at rallies and meetings. During these public marches these active duty servicemen wore their White Patriot uniforms, not their respective military uniforms. But military intelligence agents routinely observed the WPP's marches looking to identify active-duty servicemen.

So if it comes to another draft, young whites can thank Glenn Miller for providing them an automatic escape hatch from forced military service.

I want a swastika tattoo but the local tat shop thinks he's hot shit and charges a ton of money for even the most simple tattoo. I refuse to get ripped off again by him. hahaha

[QUOTE=diabloblanco92]There is no legal authority to require at tatoo removal under current US law.Its unlikely that it would pass constitutional muster as even a penalty for a crime under the 8Th Amendment's "Cruel and Unusual " Punishment clause, let alone as amilitary fiat for draftees.Any court would tell the military that it would either have to take the draftees with their tatoos or not take them at all.

diablo[/QUOTE]

Sure, but right now the Army will do the removal for free.

Yes, the Army conducts tattoo checks. Yes, they are very invasive. Yes, you will get some nigger NCO looking between your toes and telling you to peel back your eyelids in case you've got any swastikas in there.

And you know where they get their list of "hate symbols?" Straight from the ADL. I saw a printout of this site (http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/) slide across more than one CO's desk.

If it's any consolation, they don't like gang tattoos, either.

[QUOTE=Chain]In the latest issue of WAR, Metzger claims that if you state you are a White Racist that you'll likely get tossed out straightaway. But if that doesn't work (or if you just want to be sure), he says to get a small White Racist tattoo.[/QUOTE]

Makes more sense to spend time at a local Buddhist temple getting acquainted with the doctrine of non-violence, and then mention at the interview that you think the USA is run by "fundamentalist Christians and Jews." That ambiguous phrase isn't legally attackable, but provides a reason to keep you off the force outside of your CCO status.

[QUOTE=Bogatyr]And you know where they get their list of "hate symbols?" Straight from the ADL. I saw a printout of this site (http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/) slide across more than one CO's desk.[/QUOTE]

In this society, an organization that dedicates itself to a cause becomes an "authority" on the topic.

[QUOTE=Fritz Kuhn]Then welcome to the army, son.

http://www.rotc.monroe.army.mil/helpdesk/enrollments-1/tattoo%20policy.htm

"Patently racist/extremist tattoos/brands include such language or symbols as "KKK" and swastikas."[/QUOTE]
Interesting, informative info, Fritz Kuhn.

(b) Tattoos/brands that prejudice good order and discipline may include depiction of genitals, sex acts, excretion, or other offensive language that refers to these things. Patently racist/extremist tattoos/brands include such language or symbols as "KKK" and swastikas. Commanders must articulate how the tattoo/brand is interpreted, or is likely to be interpreted, in the unit, and how this prejudices good order and discipline to substantiate removing/modifying the tattoo or disenrolling the cadet.
Bob Rudisill, I hardly think a White Racist tattoo is going to ruin one's life. LOL

Yeah, Bob. :) Getting a swazi on the shoulder or somewhere thats usually covered up isn't gonna ruin anyone's life. And don't talk shit about Terrible Tommy, the guy has gone through legal hell, and HAS to sell that stuff so he has SOME money he doesn't have to give right over to those Morris Dees bastards. Tom Metzger has prolly done more than most of us ever will, so give the man the respect he deserves.

[QUOTE=SheerTerror]Yeah, Bob. :) Getting a swazi on the shoulder or somewhere thats usually covered up isn't gonna ruin anyone's life. And don't talk shit about Terrible Tommy, the guy has gone through legal hell, and HAS to sell that stuff so he has SOME money he doesn't have to give right over to those Morris Dees bastards. Tom Metzger has prolly done more than most of us ever will, so give the man the respect he deserves. [/QUOTE]
Exactly. Just so.

[QUOTE=EdbergEdberg]During the early and mid-80s, Glenn Miller's White Patriot Party was recruiting so many active duty Marines from Camp Lejeune and Army soldiers from nearby Fort Bragg (both large military bases in North Carolina), that the Reagan administration was forced to take a stand on the issue, which I believe is still in force. Then Sec. of Defense Caspar Weinberger issued a policy directive to the Armed Forces to discharge (Usually under General Conditions) any serviceman who was actively involved, or a member, of any pro-white organization.

Numerous active-duty soldiers and Marines regularly marched with Rounder and the White Patriot Party during their many public marches, and they provided security at rallies and meetings. During these public marches these active duty servicemen wore their White Patriot uniforms, not their respective military uniforms. But military intelligence agents routinely observed the WPP's marches looking to identify active-duty servicemen.

So if it comes to another draft, young whites can thank Glenn Miller for providing them an automatic escape hatch from forced military service.[/QUOTE]

No need to mutilate one's body, shoot oneself in the foot or declare oneself a faggot to stay out of the giant social experiment: just tell JOG that you're a racist and can't stand to be around Jews and other non-Whites. Racism is not a crime just yet.

I remember like yesterday when the demi-Jew Secretary of War under Ronnie Raygun, Casper Weinberger, issued his specific illegal edict that no active duty military personnel could also be a member of our White Patriot Party. They sure were worried about the number of active duty Marines and soldiers who had joined our legitimate pro-White organization. Of course there was no prohibition whatsoever against soldiers being members of organizations which advance the interests of colored people, to the detriment of the White majority.

I immediately took out an ad in the local weekly tabloid here, The Spectator, pointing out the transparency of the Jew's hypocritical double standard:

"Don't fight in foreign wars, join the White Patriot Party and fight communism here at home. Write POB XXX, Raleigh, NC for details and an application."

Seven people bothered to write to me in response to my $7 ad. There were a couple of knee-jerk hostile responses from niggers and do-gooder Xians who saw nothing but hatred in my simple words, but I sent out several packets and remember that at least one of the respondants joined the Sanford den of the WPP. I recall thinking at the time that if we only had to spend $7 for each new recruit, it would only be a matter of time before we had an army of thousands of White men and women who had had a bellyful of arrogant Jews like Weinberger. Of course that was before JOG and Morris Dees effectively banned the WPP and scattered us to the wind, making it a crime if we communicated with one another.

It's funny how such indigestible morsels as Glenn Miller -- they can't chew him up or spit him out -- return to fight another day and to inspire another generation of race-fighters to take it to the Jew.

[QUOTE=Screaming Peacock]The F--- You salute is hilarious as can be, but what if having a racist tattoo gets us in a world of trouble if we get caught so much as looking at a non-white in a funny way.[/QUOTE]
Might have you scrubbing toilets in the winter on the coldest military base they can find. Stuff like that can sometimes backfire.

Jerry Abbott

[QUOTE=Jenab]Might have you scrubbing toilets in the winter on the coldest military base they can find. Stuff like that can sometimes backfire.

Jerry Abbott[/QUOTE]


"I'm a racist neo-nazi, Sir!"

"Well done, Private. You just joined the "Involuntary Kamikaze Brigade."

"Oh shit, Sir!"

[QUOTE=White Will]No need to mutilate one's body, shoot oneself in the foot or declare oneself a faggot to stay out of the giant social experiment: just tell JOG that you're a racist and can't stand to be around Jews and other non-Whites. Racism is not a crime just yet.

I remember like yesterday when the demi-Jew Secretary of War under Ronnie Raygun, Casper Weinberger, issued his specific illegal edict that no active duty military personnel could also be a member of our White Patriot Party. They sure were worried about the number of active duty Marines and soldiers who had joined our legitimate pro-White organization. Of course there was no prohibition whatsoever against soldiers being members of organizations which advance the interests of colored people, to the detriment of the White majority.

I immediately took out an ad in the local weekly tabloid here, The Spectator, pointing out the transparency of the Jew's hypocritical double standard:

"Don't fight in foreign wars, join the White Patriot Party and fight communism here at home. Write POB XXX, Raleigh, NC for details and an application."

Seven people bothered to write to me in response to my $7 ad. There were a couple of knee-jerk hostile responses from niggers and do-gooder Xians who saw nothing but hatred in my simple words, but I sent out several packets and remember that at least one of the respondants joined the Sanford den of the WPP. I recall thinking at the time that if we only had to spend $7 for each new recruit, it would only be a matter of time before we had an army of thousands of White men and women who had had a bellyful of arrogant Jews like Weinberger. Of course that was before JOG and Morris Dees effectively banned the WPP and scattered us to the wind, making it a crime if we communicated with one another.

It's funny how such indigestible morsels as Glenn Miller -- they can't chew him up or spit him out -- return to fight another day and to inspire another generation of race-fighters to take it to the Jew.[/QUOTE]

always enjoy these reminiscences, thanks.

I think Will is absolutely right, and what I heard recently from a VNNer a few months back confirms it. Former paratroop to be reactivated under the IRR, got called in and he laid it out pretty much just like that. They cut him loose.

and then there are the people who hate Jews and are in the military, and arent telling anybody............. LOL......... dont you kikes wonder how many of them there are?

And there's more and more every day. :)

You forgot to add "Itz coming!" at the end, man. :p



[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]and then there are the people who hate Jews and are in the military, and arent telling anybody............. LOL......... dont you kikes wonder how many of them there are?

And there's more and more every day. :)[/QUOTE]

15 yaers ago I got a irish pagan tat with a partially hooked swastika and I carried it to ets. 3/66 2nd ad, hell on wheels. no problem...mostly.

One recruiter told me that it wasn't a big deal and another one at the recuiting station told me that, oh yes, it was a very big deal. Maybe I am as dumb as I look because the guy then tells me to just get it taken off.

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]and then there are the people who hate Jews and are in the military, and arent telling anybody............. LOL......... dont you kikes wonder how many of them there are?

And there's more and more every day. :)[/QUOTE]

They filter out the White racists pretty effectively now before we ever join. Remember, the military is now less than 50% White males.

Racists ARE created in the military, however. I remember that I was not explicitly racist until thrown into close proximity with 100 impudent boolies from the bowels of Pittsburgh at Ft. Jackson, SC. Basic training was like culture shock for a sheltered kid like me, just a week out of high school. It wasn't long before I naturally metriculated to progressively Whiter and Brighter branches of the Army: first to the infantry, then Infantry Officer Candidate School, then to Special Forces. I managed to insulate myself somewhat from the general "Black Power" nigger mess by being surrounded by a bunch of hard-nosed professional soldiers -- no Affirmative Action nonsense tolerated, no insane lowering of standards to "darken" SF. No nigger "made it" in my unit if he couldn't stand being called "the nigger." We were implicitly racist, especially in our dealings with the untrustworthy Vietnamese. I couldn't get out of the niggerized military fast enough after doing my tour. I can't see a very rewarding military career in the "new" Army for your stealth racist, AE. Honest, open, unapologetic racism is the best policy. Hell, racial separation is a natural instinct, Nature's survival mechanism. Why apologize or make up a lie?

[QUOTE=White Will]They filter out the White racists pretty effectively now before we ever join. Remember, the military is now less than 50% White males.

........... I couldn't get out of the niggerized military fast enough after doing my tour. I can't see a very rewarding military career in the "new" Army for your stealth racist, AE. Honest, open, unapologetic racism is the best policy. Hell, racial separation is a natural instinct, Nature's survival mechanism. Why apologize or make up a lie?[/QUOTE]

I think you're right. People who dont shine up to the pro-Israeli horseshite of today lack the right political attitude to bag promotions. That helps, as there are more and more including officers who see the "real deal" and have tried to get out, and get on with life. The stop loss thing has had an effect of taking the "stealth racist" who has lately come around to his senses, and making him somewhat bitter about continued forced service to the federal taskmaster. They make good comrades when they're out from under the heel.

Still I dont rule out that there are those who may stay in, and find a way to scratch their way up however slowly. Jews know coup d'etat may spell their doom in this country and in Israel and we can thank them for pushing things that way hard and fast. Today's bootlicker may be tomorrow's boot-kicker. I dont rule it out as a possibility.

[QUOTE=SheerTerror]Yeah, Bob. :) Getting a swazi on the shoulder or somewhere thats usually covered up isn't gonna ruin anyone's life. And don't talk shit about Terrible Tommy, the guy has gone through legal hell, and HAS to sell that stuff so he has SOME money he doesn't have to give right over to those Morris Dees bastards. Tom Metzger has prolly done more than most of us ever will, so give the man the respect he deserves.[/QUOTE]

[Sigh...] We have two things, an Idea and a so-called "Movement." Two completely different things. I wondered how long I could post to this board without getting dragged into the so-called "Movement" in all its groady glory. Not even for a week, it appears. Evidently there's no escape. That's why Forums such as these are basically exercises in futility. You can't have any kind of sane, much less civil and constructive discourse, in a madhouse.

I know that we as a community seem to have an almost intolerable aversion to truth, accompanied by a complete inability to face up to our own past mistakes and our own fatal weaknesses of character. Nonetheless, it is time that someone stated out loud what we all know to be true about Tom Metzger. The fact that we don't like to say these things out of fear of what I will politely call "peer pressure" from the dysfunctionals and white trash we call "comrades," does not make it any the less true.

Tom Metzger is not and never was any kind of "leader." At best, at the top of his game, he was a passably interesting and effective street agitator who might have accomplished something had he been working for a truly major figure like Commander Rockwell, but on his own Metzger always was very small potatoes, and he wasn't at the top of his game for very long--late 70s and early 80s, after which a slide began, starting with the period in which he became involved with the Jew Barry Minkow.

The ultimate verdict of history on Metzger will most likely be that he was an alcoholic dead end whom we would have done far better to avoid. The amount of time, money, effort, and young White lives he has wasted and destroyed beggars the imagination. That he is still hanging on to the Movement like grim death, ten years after the exposure of his obscene "arrangement" with Morris Dees, is something I still have difficulty wrapping my mind around--but, as has been made clear on this Forum, apparently we as a community have no objection to betrayal of ones' comrades so long as a sufficient amount of time has gone by to allow the immediate dust to settle. I think we all need to stop being surprised by the comebacks of people like Tom Metzger, Dewey Tucker, Glenn Miller, Frank Collin, Martin Webster, and Jeff Downs. So far as I can observe, we don't seem to have any moral or ethical standards at all.

Metzger's newspaper and (last time I checked) his web site consists of very little except two things: inciting young White people to violent illegal acts which Metzger himself clearly has no intention of committing, and selling videos and other toys which more or less leech off those violent and illegal acts under the pretense that it constitutes some kind of "White revolution." It doesn't. Metzger has no program, no strategy, and is incapable of formulating either with his brain constantly pickled in vodka. It's simply pointless petty crime that sends young White men to prison for no other purpose whatsoever than to fill Tom Metzger's bank account. I have nothing but contempt for someone who incites others to do the crime and do the time while he sits back nice and safe, at a distance, behind a computer, and collects money for their suffering.

I will freely concede that Metzger's victmization by Morris Dees was a legal and constitutional abomination and that he deserves some personal sympathy for what Dees did to him, especially the death of his wife. That sympathy is canceled out by the vile and contemptible arrangement, documented by Rick Cooper many years ago, whereby a legally appointed agent of Morris Dees collects Metzger's mail from P. O. Box 65 on foot of the Portland civil judgement, takes out half of the money to give to an Ethiopian nigger, and then gives half to Metzger himself, making Tom Metzger effectively an employee of Morris Dees.

Please note that there is no doubt at all that this is occurring. Tom Metger himself now admits it--because, like a certain other prominent poster to this forum, he has found that it does not matter what he did. We have no intention of enforcing any kind of standards of moral behavior or accountability on anyone. We are too busy viciously sliming and attacking those who point out that the Emperor has no clothes.

I happen to believe that there is some hope for the Movement, because I am participating in a program which I believe does, if correctly and intelligently applied, hold the solution. But we need to make a complete break from our ridiculous and revolting past, and the self-appointed quasi-Leaders who have led us into this race-destroying, poisonous swamp and left us here. And while we're at it, we need to break with a very large percentage of our so-called "comrades" as well, who in many cases are simply too badly mentally and emotionally damaged by the things the leaders have done to them and the things they've done to themselves to be of any use in any serious, adult movement.

One of the worst things about this Judaized society we live in is that young White men are allowed to think that they can live the whole of their lives in one long, extended adolescence, one long Porky's movie in which they chase chicks and guzzle brew and act like Animal House (pardon my mixed movies) and never be required to grow up. Unfortunately, the Movement, which has a desperate need for White males to grow up and accept serious responsibilities, is the same way. We have never demanded of our young men that they GROW UP--as witness many of the posts on this forum. Metzger and a few others like him capitalize on that and make a living off it, which is utterly contemptible.

Look, the Movement is a joke, and everybody reading these words knows it. It's just some are more willing to admit it than others. Is there still hope? Yes. But it won't be found either in Tom Metzger's vodka bottle, or here on VNN.

Now, having said all this, I will tell you straight out that I will not respond to any replies, or even to read this thread again. I'm not going to get into one of these stupid pissing contests. I have stated my opinion and having done so, that's it. If I wanted to play with retards, I'd be on Usenet. You Metzgerite guys want to rant and rave and scream, fine. Knock yourselves out. But you'll be ranting and raving and screaming to yourselves. I just don't have the time, and I damned sure don't have the inclination.

-Bob