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heaven above
October 13th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Religious Jews, among them yeshiva students, customarily spit on the ground as a sign of disgust on seeing the cross.

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Israel, Monday, October 11, 2004 Tishrei 26, 5765


Armenian archbishop quizzed over spat with yeshiva student

By Amiram Barkat

THE Armenian archbishop in Israel, Nourhan Manougian, was questioned under warning by police yesterday after he slapped a yeshiva student during a procession marking the Exaltation of the Holy Cross in Jerusalem's Old City.

The archbishop slapped the student after the latter spat at the cross the Armenians were carrying and at Manougian himself. The incident developed into a brawl during which Manougian's ceremonial medallion, which has been used by Armenian archbishops since the 17th century, broke. The yeshiva student was also detained for questioning.

Police are now considering whether to initiate criminal proceedings against the Armenian archbishop and to charge him with assault. Meanwhile, the incident has sparked much anger among the clergy of the small Armenian community in Jerusalem.
Religious Jews, among them yeshiva students, customarily spit on the ground as a sign of disgust on seeing the cross. The Armenians, who live adjacent to the Jewish Quarter of the Old City, suffer from this phenomenon more than any of the other Christian sects in the Old City.

Manougian says he and his colleagues have already learned to live with it. "I no longer get worked up by people who turn around and spit when I pass them by in the street; but to approach in the middle of a religious procession and to spit on the cross in front of all the priests of the sect is humiliation that we are not prepared to accept," he notes.

A policeman is customarily posted to guard the Armenians' religious processions, but doesn't generally do anything to prevent the spitting. The Armenians took the matter up with Interior Minister Avraham Poraz some seven months ago, but nothing has been done about till now. "The Israeli government is anti-Christian," Manougian charges. "It cries out in the face of any harm done to Jews all over the world, but is simply not interested at all when we are humiliated on an almost daily basis."

Lawmaker Rabbi Michael Melchior (Labor Party) says the phenomenon should be tackled through educational means. "I would expect prominent figures among the religious and ultra-Orthodox sectors, such as the chief rabbis, to denounce this phenomenon," he says.

heaven above
October 13th, 2004, 08:14 PM
Should have given him a 'scouse kiss' :D

heaven above
October 14th, 2004, 06:25 PM
What you mean nicked his false teeth? :confused:


Nah, headbutted him :D

That's what a 'scouse kiss' is .

My Mum is a 'scouser' but she keeps it quiet .

heaven above
October 14th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Israel's Christians spitting mad DAILY TELEGRAPH
By Inigo Gilmore in Jerusalem
(Filed: 13/10/2004)

Christians in Jerusalem have attacked what they say is the
increasingly common phenomenon of ultra-orthodox Jews spitting on
them.



The statement followed a brawl between an orthodox Jewish yeshiva
(religious school) student and an Armenian archbishop.

They clashed in Jerusalem's Old City after the student spat at a
cross being carried by the clergyman during a procession near the
Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

Archbishop Nourhan Manougian slapped the student and in the ensuing
scuffle, his 17th century ceremonial medallion was broken.

Both were questioned by police and the student is facing charges. He
has been banned from the Old City for 75 days. The Armenians say the
action was inadequate.

Archbishop Manougian told an Israeli newspaper that Israeli leaders
must speak out about the "daily" abuse. "When there is an attack
against Jews anywhere, the Israeli government is incensed, so why
when our religion and pride are hurt, don't they take harsher
measures?" he asked.

His critique has encouraged other Christian leaders to speak out,
including a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman who has disclosed that he
was recently approached by an elderly man wearing a skullcap who spat
in his face.

Daniel Rossing, the director of a Jerusalem centre for Christian-
Jewish dialogue, said there had been an increase in such incidents
recently as "part of a general lack of tolerance".
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Spandau
October 14th, 2004, 06:33 PM
Should have given him a 'scouse kiss' :D

Right. Like a "Glasgow Kiss". I tell ya. Any kike who spits at me will have a hard time digging the teeth out of his throat.