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Chad Wentworth
February 26th, 2010, 09:04 AM
A court in Moscow has sentenced nine members of a neo-Nazi skinhead gang to prison terms of up to 23 years.

The gang members, most in their late teens, were found guilty of a string of brutal and very public murders.

The skinheads targeted people of Central Asian origin and posted videos of their attacks on the Internet.

Russia has seen a surge of racially-motivated attacks in recent years. In 2009 alone, neo-Nazis are believed to have killed more than 70 people.

'Wrong accent'

The nine neo-Nazis called themselves "The White Wolves".

They sought out Central Asian migrants, and attacked them in Moscow's back streets.

They clubbed some of their victims to death with wooden planks and killed others by repeatedly stabbing them with knives and screwdrivers.

In one case, a glazier from Kyrgyzstan was stabbed 73 times, as the gang members shouted "Russia for the Russians!" and filmed the murder on their mobile phones.

The jury heard the gang was responsible for at least 11 killings, possibly even more.

And so - after five months of deliberations - came the prison terms: Twenty-three years for the gang leader and up to nine years for the others - the maximum prison term allowed in Russia for underage criminals.

Human rights activists have welcomed the sentencing.

They admit that the police are now cracking down on skinhead gangs.

But even so, last year alone, dozens were killed, and hundreds injured simply for not looking Slavic, and for speaking with a foreign accent.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8537861.stm

Marvin Nash
February 26th, 2010, 04:30 PM
I have to laugh whenever I hear about Russian "neo nazis". Hitler said slavics were subhumans who deserved to be slaves. Huge parts of Russia are populated with Central Asians and Siberians, and they have been there for thousands of years.

Russian "neo nazis" have nothing to do with National Socialism, and neither do any other bald beer swilling sadistic soccer hooligans who get their jollies killing random people for kicks.

Joe_J.
February 26th, 2010, 04:39 PM
Maybe so, Marvin, but Russia has a problem with non-White invaders. The Central Asians and Siberians are moving into the cities. Maybe you confuse Russia proper with the Near Abroad?

Hitler indeed had a problem with the Slavs. OTOH, a reading of the history of the Wermacht in WWII finds that in Russia many German units had Russian volunteers fighting. This was particularly true for the 6th Army which had some units with more than half of its fighting strength attributable to Russian "Hiwis" as they were called. Not everything that went on in NS Germany revolved around Hitler.

National Socialist doctrine could be applied to any nation.

Marvin Nash
February 26th, 2010, 05:09 PM
Maybe so, Marvin, but Russia has a problem with non-White invaders. The Central Asians and Siberians are moving into the cities. Maybe you confuse Russia proper with the Near Abroad?

Hitler indeed had a problem with the Slavs. OTOH, a reading of the history of the Wermacht in WWII finds that in Russia many German units had Russian volunteers fighting. This was particularly true for the 6th Army which had some units with more than half of its fighting strength attributable to Russian "Hiwis" as they were called. Not everything that went on in NS Germany revolved around Hitler.

National Socialist doctrine could be applied to any nation.

There was a crew of these guys who were torturing animals for fun, I don't know if these are the same ones but they were also from Russia. The fact that the Russians are convicting them, it just means they have no tolerance for sadistic criminals roaming their streets murdering at random.

I think what people perceive as Russians are actually descendants of Aryans/Germanics who adopted Slavic language and customs, but are only partially Slavic, if at all. That's why you will see pictures of some Poles and Russians who look Aryan/Germanic, but others who are definitely not.

About the Russians fighting under German command, during the early weeks of Barbarossa there was fraternization between Germans and Russian civilians, who hated Stalinism. The Ukrainians especially welcomed the Germans as liberators from Stalin and like you said, fought for the Germans.

Joe_J.
February 26th, 2010, 05:48 PM
The fact that the Russians are convicting them, it just means they have no tolerance for sadistic criminals roaming their streets murdering at random.

Actually, were that true, they would be deporting the non-Whites out of Russia proper.

I think what people perceive as Russians are actually descendants of Aryans/Germanics who adopted Slavic language and customs, but are only partially Slavic, if at all. That's why you will see pictures of some Poles and Russians who look Aryan/Germanic, but others who are definitely not.


As in Scythians?

Think about the whole idea of Russian Nazis for a minute. Their society has the harmful jewish parasite in it which has led to the adoption of Nazism with some of the younger people there. I consider that an extreme symptom of the jewing of Russian society in light of the destruction and death that Russians suffered at the hands of Germany in the war. Of course, Russia, at that time, was under the jew government of Communism with jews at the helm.

Marvin Nash
February 26th, 2010, 06:04 PM
I wish WN would make up their mind. When a non-white kills, its a crime. When a Russian does it, its revolutionary activity. Adolf would have rounded these guys up first thing, just like he did with all the other sadistic criminal types in Germany.

Regardless of their motives, the majority of Russians probably see these guys as more of a destabilizing influence on their community than some non-white factory workers who had not committed any crime, which is why they were convicted. I doubt all the courts in Russia are jewed, more likely they assessed the facts of the case and determined they were guilty.

Joe_J.
February 26th, 2010, 06:20 PM
There is no making up of the mind. Whites don't harbor criminals. That's what niggers do (Marion Barry, for example).

That said, I consider ethnic cleansing by Russians to be proper and a survival mechanism. What business do asians and africans have in Russia? They have none.

I speak some Russian and have gotten along pretty well with some of the Russians I have met. Still, I don't suspect that I would be welcome to live in Russia. I can understand that they want Russia for Russians and have no problem with it.

Marvin Nash
February 26th, 2010, 06:46 PM
There is no making up of the mind. Whites don't harbor criminals. That's what niggers do (Marion Barry, for example).

That said, I consider ethnic cleansing by Russians to be proper and a survival mechanism. What business do asians and africans have in Russia? They have none.

I speak some Russian and have gotten along pretty well with some of the Russians I have met. Still, I don't suspect that I would be welcome to live in Russia. I can understand that they want Russia for Russians and have no problem with it.

Well I think many Whites do harbor criminals. And many of the non-whites in Russia have lived there for centuries, so how are they invading exactly?

This is the problem I have with WN. Too much of it is cobbled together. Too much of it is self-contradictory.

There's a difference between a thug and a soldier. A soldier does his duty and takes no particular pleasure in killing. Its his job. Sadistic thugs belong in prison, or maybe better dead.

Pat Healey
February 26th, 2010, 07:34 PM
Well I think many Whites do harbor criminals. And many of the non-whites in Russia have lived there for centuries, so how are they invading exactly?

This is the problem I have with WN. Too much of it is cobbled together. Too much of it is self-contradictory.

There's a difference between a thug and a soldier. A soldier does his duty and takes no particular pleasure in killing. Its his job. Sadistic thugs belong in prison, or maybe better dead.

No disrespect intended - however, soldiers take pleasure in killing. Trust me on that.

Joe_J.
February 26th, 2010, 07:53 PM
Well I think many Whites do harbor criminals.

Evidence, please? In my area, if there is some wanted guy on the loose, most would pick up the phone and call a kwap if they knew something. The jury system is a good example. White juries convict all the time. Nigger juries refuse to convict a nigger defendant. That's why Detroit, for example, had to pull in suburban folk for juries in the city.

And many of the non-whites in Russia have lived there for centuries, so how are they invading exactly?

I speak of invasion in reference to recent migrations of Chechens, Afreakans, etc. I am well aware of the tartars, etc. that have been around a long time. Also, when we speak of Russia, we speak of vast territory but I think of Russia itself, not the old USSR republics or Near Abroad areas.

This is the problem I have with WN. Too much of it is cobbled together. Too much of it is self-contradictory.


Not at all. WN-in its essence-is preservation of White DNA and homelands. That's it. Governmental structures, etc. are something else altogether.

There's a difference between a thug and a soldier. A soldier does his duty and takes no particular pleasure in killing. Its his job. Sadistic thugs belong in prison, or maybe better dead.

Sadists are something else.

Marvin Nash
February 26th, 2010, 09:34 PM
Evidence, please?

Criminal thug funded and supported by white taxpayers.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3180/jewthug.jpg

WN-in its essence-is preservation of White DNA and homelands. That's it. Governmental structures, etc. are something else altogether.

I agree with those principles. But I think it weakens the position when we don't apply the same standards we expect from others to ourselves.

Marvin Nash
February 26th, 2010, 09:37 PM
No disrespect intended - however, soldiers take pleasure in killing. Trust me on that.

Perhaps they take pleasure in doing their duty, but not the act of killing. Why else do so many come back with PTSD?

An inordinate percentage of US troops coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan are addicted to heroin, and commit domestic violence and suicide.

Doesn't look like they're taking too much pleasure in their work there.

Thomas de Aynesworth
February 26th, 2010, 10:08 PM
Sorry Marvin, whether those Russians like killing or not, it's not our right to chastise them for it.
I agree with those principles. But I think it weakens the position when we don't apply the same standards we expect from others to ourselves.
We, being the proverbial Western "WN" don't have the authority to apply these standards to the proverbial Eastern "WN". What are you going to do? Send an angry letter to Dmitry over the Slavic Union's tactics?

What Russian Ultranationalists do in Russia works within the framework that they are given. Every day Russian whites convert more and more of their countrymen in mind, body and soul. If you don't like the way these soldiers operate on a day-to-day basis, then go ahead and distance yourself from the Russian Ultranationalist scene, I can almost guarantee they won't mind, or even notice.

Joe_J.
February 26th, 2010, 10:27 PM
Criminal thug funded and supported by white taxpayers.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3180/jewthug.jpg





We were talking about Whites harboring criminals. ZOG support of IDF killers is something else entirely. It's not like WNs are running anything in the Kwa or anywhere else. It looks like the first WN government that we might see could emerge in Russia. If so, then my hat is off to them even if that means that they kill every non-White in their borders instead of deporting them.

Marvin Nash
February 26th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Sorry Marvin, whether those Russians like killing or not, it's not our right to chastise them for it.

We, being the proverbial Western "WN" don't have the authority to apply these standards to the proverbial Eastern "WN". What are you going to do? Send an angry letter to Dmitry over the Slavic Union's tactics?

What Russian Ultranationalists do in Russia works within the framework that they are given. Every day Russian whites convert more and more of their countrymen in mind, body and soul. If you don't like the way these soldiers operate on a day-to-day basis, then go ahead and distance yourself from the Russian Ultranationalist scene, I can almost guarantee they won't mind, or even notice.

Russians can do what they will, but I don't think these guys represent Russia or the Russian people. Most Russians still consider Stalin to be a national hero.

I'm simply pointing out the glaring contradiction about people cheering on romper stomper room hooligans while complaining about non-whites doing the same.

Marvin Nash
February 26th, 2010, 10:52 PM
We were talking about Whites harboring criminals. ZOG support of IDF killers is something else entirely. It's not like WNs are running anything in the Kwa or anywhere else. It looks like the first WN government that we might see could emerge in Russia. If so, then my hat is off to them even if that means that they kill every non-White in their borders instead of deporting them.

The majority of conservative whites in America are christian zealots who support israel and worship moses and jewsus.

I consider that harboring criminals.

Do away with the fallacy that whites are incapable of crime or wrongdoing. I doubt most sane individuals would like to be neighbors with the kind of thugs that torture animals for fun.

Thomas de Aynesworth
February 26th, 2010, 10:56 PM
Most Russians still consider Stalin to be a national hero.
[citation needed]
I'm simply pointing out the glaring contradiction about people cheering on romper stomper room hooligans, while complaining about non-whites doing the same. These two tactics are not mutually exclusive, if whites do not assert themselves in a physical, violent way we will be wiped out. Waiting for some farce called "deportation" is waiting for your own demise.
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Marvin Nash
February 26th, 2010, 11:01 PM
Stalin is a national treasure according to modern Russians

Russian TV watchers have just finished voting for their most treasured countryman. The icon to take the crown was medieval prince Alexander Nevsky. But that's not what everyone's talking about. It's the unlikely figure looming at number three that's stolen the show.

After the Brits predictably voted Winston Churchill their 'Greatest Briton' in 2002 and the French, Charles De Gaulle Le Plus Grand Français in 2005, this year the world waited to see who Russia would select as their most celebrated icon.

But just weeks after the "Name of Russia" polls opened in May, huge numbers of votes for Soviet leaders Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin had pitched the pair to first and third places respectively. The results came as such a surprise that the project's organiser, state channel TV Russia, suspected Stalin-supporting fraudsters of having dabbled with the counter. Following media uproar, the decision was taken to scrap the online contribution to the tally and suspend internet voting.

But despite the new rules, month after month, Stalin didn't budge from second place. Even though his votes were halved when the organisers cried foul again just before the last round, he still managed to squeeze into the final 12 for the ultimate poll. When the final votes were counted on Sunday, the infamous tyrant had crept back up to take the bronze prize, beating favoured poet Alexander Pushkin. Is Stalin back in fashion? Nokia phone sellers think so, they've already lined the shelved with 'Stalin mobiles'...

Before the dust has even settled, there's already a Stalin bandwagon to get on for money-makers. The day the results were announced, Russian mobile phone retailer Ion launched a Stalin emblazoned Nokia 6500. (Nokia has already asserted that they have nothing to do with the design and that they emphatically disapprove of it.)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7637/090101stalin1mobile.jpg

http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20090102-stalin-national-treasure-modern-russians-name-russia-tv-vote

Thomas de Aynesworth
February 26th, 2010, 11:06 PM
I figured Aleksandr Nevsky would have taken 1st place.

Mr. Bowmont
March 30th, 2010, 11:22 PM
I'm simply pointing out the glaring contradiction about people cheering on romper stomper room hooligans while complaining about non-whites doing the same.


Theres no contradiction. Theres a distinct difference between animals killing humans and humans killing animals.

And as said above, when we kill (despite the motive of the person doing the killing) its outcome is furthering the survival of our species, when they kill us the outcome is there species gaining a little more hold over us.


Motives and outcomes.