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Chad Wentworth
March 2nd, 2010, 11:30 AM
Ex-Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic has dismissed as myths the alleged two worst atrocities of the 1992-95 Bosnian war and denied his involvement.

Mr Karadzic told his trial at The Hague that Sarajevo, where some 12,000 people died in 44 months, was "not a city under siege" by Bosnian Serb forces.

He said claims of the 1995 Srebrenica massacre of more than 7,000 Muslim men and boys were based on "false myths".

He is accused of genocide and war crimes committed during the conflict.

The 64-year-old insists he is innocent of all 11 charges.

“ He should be given the Nobel Prize for lying ”
Sabra Kolenovic, Mothers of Srebrenica

On Tuesday, the trial was adjourned, pending a decision on Mr Karadzic's appeal for it to be delayed until June on the grounds that he needed more time to prepare to defend himself.

Last week, the trial chamber rejected his first request and had planned to start hearing prosecution witnesses on Wednesday.

On Monday, during the first day of trial, Mr Karadzic described the conflict as "just and holy", blaming Bosnian Muslims for starting it.

'False victims'

On the second day of his opening statement at the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), Mr Karadzic said that Sarajevo was "not a city under siege, it was a city divided".

THE CHARGES
# Eleven counts of genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and other atrocities
# Charged over shelling of Sarajevo during the city's siege, in which some 12,000 civilians died
# Allegedly organised the massacre of up to 8,000 Bosniak men and youths in Srebrenica
# Targeted Bosniak and Croat political leaders, intellectuals and professionals
# Unlawfully deported and transferred civilians because of national or religious identity
# Destroyed homes, businesses and sacred sites

He said that Bosnian Serb gunfire and shelling of Bosnia's capital was restricted to legitimate targets.

And he accused Bosnian Muslims and Croats of turning the city's kindergartens, schools and hospitals into military facilities by setting up command posts and sniper positions there.

"We can prove that they [Bosnian Serb enemies] did shell their own people and killed all their own people," Mr Karadzic said.

He said Muslims and Croats had used terror attacks in Sarajevo in an attempt to bring Nato and Western countries and troops on their side.

The 44-month siege of Sarajevo ended in November 1995.

Referring to Srebrenica, Mr Karadzic said claims that Bosnian Serb troops committed a massacre there in July 1995 were based on "false myths and false victims".

He added: "It is going to be easy from me to prove that I had nothing to do with it."

Earlier on Tuesday, Mr Karadzic said he had been seeking to defend Bosnian Serbs from "state-sponsored terrorism" and had tried to prevent the war.

Reaction from some of the survivors of the Srebrenica massacre, who were in The Hague to attend proceedings, was indignant.

"He should be given the Nobel Prize for lying," Sabra Kolenovic of the Mothers of Srebrenica was quoted as saying by Reuters.

Correspondents say Mr Karadzic is trying to show that there was no joint criminal enterprise to carry out the genocide or "ethnic cleansing", but that Serbs were only defending themselves from perceived Muslim aggression.

'Ethnic cleansing'

Mr Karadzic faces two charges of genocide, as well as nine other counts including murder, extermination, persecution and forced deportation.

Prosecutors say he orchestrated a campaign of "ethnic cleansing" against Muslims and Croats in eastern Bosnia to create an ethnically pure Serbian state.

In his opening statement last October, prosecutor Alan Tieger said Mr Karadzic had "harnessed the forces of nationalism, hatred and fear to pursue his vision of an ethnically segregated Bosnia".

Mr Karadzic had boycotted earlier proceedings, insisting on more time to prepare his case.

In November, the court appointed British lawyer Richard Harvey to take over the defence if he continued his boycott.

Mr Karadzic was arrested in Belgrade in 2008 after nearly 13 years on the run.

During his time in power, he was president of the self-styled Bosnian Serb Republic and commander of its army during the Bosnian conflict which left more than 100,000 people dead.

He is the most significant figure to face justice at this tribunal since the former Yugoslav President, Slobodan Milosevic, who died of a heart attack in 2006 before his own trial was concluded.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8545188.stm

Thomas de Aynesworth
March 2nd, 2010, 11:37 AM
“ He should be given the Nobel Prize for lying ”
They already gave that one out to Obama.

Serbian
March 4th, 2010, 08:24 PM
Karadzic: Serbs were targets of state terror

Wartime leader Karadzic insists Bosnian Serbs were targets of Muslim state-sponsored terrorism

ARTHUR MAX
AP News

Mar 02, 2010 07:33 EST

Wartime Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic told war crimes judges Tuesday that Serb gunfire and shelling during the siege of Sarajevo was restricted to legitimate targets, but accused his enemies of setting up command posts and sniper positions in schools, hospitals and the city museum.

Karadzic's description of the 44-month siege and the escalation toward the outbreak of Bosnia's civil war in 1992 give a uniquely Serb view of events. He depicted Bosnia's Serbs as victims of "state-sponsored terrorism" by Muslim authorities who rushed toward independence from Yugoslavia and who sought to draw international forces into the conflict.

On the second day of his defense statement, Karadzic addressed issues at the heart of his indictment, denying Serb culpability and claiming that key events in the 1992-95 war — the siege of the capital and the mass murder of 8,000 Muslims at Srebrenica — were stage managed or fabricated to vilify the Serb community.

Prosecutors say Karadzic was the "supreme commander" of a campaign to kill or expel Muslims and Croats from eastern Bosnia and create an ethnically pure Serbian state. He is charged with two counts of genocide and nine other counts of murder, extermination, persecution, forced deportation and the seizing of 200 U.N. hostages. He faces possible life imprisonment if convicted.

Karadzic, referring frequently to maps and speeches flashed onto the courtroom's computer screens, spoke of an inexorable breakdown of trust between Bosnian Muslim and Serb leaders, the division of the country into ethnic entities and the march toward war.

He cited provocative attacks on Serbs in early 1992: the shooting of a wedding party and the bombing of a church. "The shocks didn't come every day — they came every hour," he said.

Serb leaders tried to "protect the Serb people from their own state, from their own police, from the state-sponsored terror of their own country."

The start of the Bosnian war is generally marked by the beginning of the bombardment of Sarajevo on April 5, 1992, from the surrounding hillsides.

Karadzic asserted that Sarajevo was "not a city under siege." Instead it was "a divided city, like Beirut." Serb forces also were surrounded, both inside and outside the city, he said.

Karadzic rose twice from his chair at the defense table to walk over to a large map of Sarajevo. "This is my city. I spent 50 years of my life living in it," he said, pointing to the front lines that ran through neighborhoods he knew well.

He accused Muslim and Croat forces of "the abuse of hospitals, schools, kindergartens turned into military facilities." On his computerized map he pointed to sniper positions, rooftop bunkers and firing points from the museum.

When Serb troops responded to fire, he said, "we were accused of firing indiscriminately at Sarajevo."

The Yugoslav tribunal already has delved into the siege in detail and convicted two commanders of the Bosnian Serb army for relentlessly raining shellfire on the city, in a horror that was played out in front of international television cameras.

Gen. Stanislav Galic who commanded the 18,000-man Romanija Corps that encircled and bombarded the city, was sentenced to life imprisonment and his successor Gen. Dragomir Milosevic was sentenced to 33 years.

Source: AP News

Serbian
March 6th, 2010, 06:21 AM
The Show Goes On

by Nebojsa Malic, March 06, 2010

The show trial of former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic continued on March 1 before the Hague Inquisition, but also in the media. Both in the West and in the Muslim world, Karadzic and the Bosnian Serbs have been convicted by the press of vilest atrocities long ago. One could almost feel the frustration of the commentators and reporters that there even has to be a trial in the first place, so strong are their convictions about Karadzic and the Bosnian War. Evidence? Facts? True believers need no such things. Nor do the Hague prosecutors, apparently.

Challenging Cherished Myths

Reading through the coverage of the trial inevitably reveals that reporters and editors aren’t so much telling what happened in the courtroom, but trying to argue with Karadzic’s defense. Take, for example, Ian Traynor of the Guardian, who "reports" from the trial as if he were the prosecutor rebutting Karadzic’s opening statement. Other journalists took a similar approach, typically presenting the accusations as indisputable facts then saying that Karadzic "denied" war crimes.

He did, in fact, challenge the Official Truth about several key episodes of the Bosnian War, saying that there was no genocide in Srebrenica, and that Sarajevo was divided rather than besieged. The Bosnian Muslims, he argued, used civilian buildings as fortifications, and often shot at their own people for propaganda purposes. Moreover, he also claimed the war was a result of Muslim desire to establish dominion over all of Bosnia, driven by a radical Islamic agenda. He says he has evidence to back all of this up. If he does, that is more than the prosecutors, the Tribunal itself, or the media have produced so far.

Consider a feature (video) by Al-Jazeera reporter Rageh Omar, which opened with the images of the grieving Muslims at the Srebrenica memorial and a video montage implying that the Bosnian Serb forces rounded up eight thousand or more Muslim civilians and executed them in broad daylight. Yet actual forensic evidence has found around 3800 bodies, 3600 of which were men aged 15 to 65 — legal age of conscription into the Bosnian (Muslim) Army. And less than five hundred had blindfolds or bindings, indicating executions. But the ICTY and the media continue to claim that the Serbs killed eight thousand people, and declare this to be genocide, based on questionable testimonies and badly mishandled evidence.

A Different Tune

The very same day Karadzic appeared in a Hague courtroom, one of his former adversaries was detained at Heathrow airport. Ejup Ganic, once the right hand of Muslim leader Alija Izetbegovic who styled himself the "vice-president" of Bosnia, was arrested by British police acting on a Serbian warrant.

Belgrade is charging Ganic with responsibility in the May 1992 ambush of the retreating Yugoslav Army column in Sarajevo. The crumbling federal army had made a deal with Bosnian and Macedonian authorities to depart unhindered. Izetbegovic’s forces violated that deal, and the resulting massacres of retreating Army columns ensured the bitter enmity of many Army officers, who then joined Karadzic’s nascent military.

One would think, then, that an opportunity to examine these events in a court of law would be greeted with enthusiasm by the politicians and the press that keep talking about the need for "justice, truth and reconciliation" in the Balkans. Yet the response in the very same media that have covered the Karadzic trial with so much zeal and emotion this week has been completely different when it came to Ganic.

The Economist, for example, dismissed the ambush as a matter of "forty rifles" and bemoaned the damage allegedly done to "Serbia’s attempts to rejoin the European fold" by "dragging up the past." Others focused not on what Ganic may or may not have done back in the 1990s, but on the "tensions" and "muddled ties" his arrest may cause, "feeding Balkans hysteria" in a year when Bosnia is having a general election.

What are they implying, that the Karadzic trial has no effect on Balkans relations, or tensions or ties? That the incessant propaganda about the Serbs as genocidal aggressors is good, perfectly normal and desirable while a mere mention that a Muslim could have been responsible for an atrocity is a cause for panic? Talk about a partisan press…

Just Cause?

The Tribunal and the media maintain that the Bosnian Serbs, and Karadzic as their leader, sought to occupy Bosnia and destroy Croat and Muslim populations as part of some grand conspiracy to create an ethnically pure "Greater Serbia." Even a cursory look at the facts indicates that these charges are absurd. Alija Izetbegovic never denied being an Islamic revolutionary. He openly stated that he would "sacrifice peace for a sovereign Bosnia." Karadzic may have mishandled the Bosnian Serb war effort, both strategically and tactically, but there is no doubt that it was the Muslims who sought dominion over the Serbs and Croats, not the other way around.

One of the things Karadzic said in his opening statement was that the Bosnian Serb cause was "just and holy." He didn’t actually call the war itself holy — though the distinction escaped many reporters. ICTY translations have been notoriously unreliable. For example, a phrase attributed to Karadzic — "marble evidence" — does not actually exist in Serbian. He could have called evidence concrete, but never marble. So it isn’t surprising that Karadzic’s description of his "holy" cause — freedom from a Muslim government bent on dominance — is being miscast as some sort of crusade. The Tribunal and the media have twisted words before.

Exercise in Futility

Given that the countries sponsoring the Tribunal have also played a major role in supporting Izetbegovic’s drive for a centralized Bosnian state – before, during and after the war — and occupying a portion of Serbia to carve out an "independent," ethnically cleansed "state" of Kosovo, there is no chance of Radovan Karadzic getting anything even remotely resembling a fair trial. Too much political capital has been invested in the Bank of Collective Serbian Guilt for the investors to admit the error of their ways now.

But the persecution of Radovan Karadzic and other Serb leaders isn’t going to help the Empire any. Least of all will it inspire gratitude in the Muslim world, a goal several policymakers have openly alluded to in the past. Back in the 1990s, to an Empire in search of a cause it seemed like a no-brainer: claim a "genocide" through hysterical propaganda about the evil Serbs slaughtering innocent Muslims, step in to save the day, and emerge as a knight in shining armor. Over and over the Western leaders, from Bill Clinton to Tony Blair, have repeated this trope. The world’s Muslims didn’t buy it. Instead, the Muslim public opinion chose to regard the West as an evil, conniving force that stood idly by and watched the slaughter.

Ironically, that was one of the major talking points of the whole hysterical propaganda effort.


http://original.antiwar.com/malic/2010/03/05/the-show-goes-on/

Chad Wentworth
April 21st, 2010, 04:14 PM
THE HAGUE, Netherlands – A Muslim man told judges Wednesday at the U.N. trial of former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic that he survived the Srebrenica massacre by feigning death beneath the bodies of men gunned down around him.

The witness testified under a pseudonym and with his image distorted, saying he feared Karadzic supporters could find him and exact revenge for his appearance at the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal.

Reading a summary of the man's written statement to judges as a way of saving time, prosecution lawyer Julian Nicholls said the witness was among about 1,000 Muslim men who surrendered to Bosnian Serb forces in July 1995 and was trucked to a school gym near the town of Srebrenica.

There, the men were taken to a small room, given a drink of water and blindfolded before being put on another truck and driven to a nearby meadow.

"Prisoners were lined up in rows and shot," Nicholls said. "The witness managed to survive by feigning death as he lay under the body of another victim."

The witness said more trucks loaded with prisoners would arrive every 10-15 minutes and the men would be executed in the same way.

"This killing continued for hours," Nicholls said. As night fell, the witness managed to creep away and eventually found his way back to Muslim-controlled territory.

Bosnian Serb forces gunned down some 8,000 Muslim men in fields around the U.N. safe haven of Srebrenica in late July 1995, Europe's worst massacre since the Holocaust.

Karadzic faces 11 charges, including two genocide counts. He insists he is innocent.

Karadzic, who is conducting his own defense, objected to the witness' testimony, saying prosecutors were presenting it for "dramatic effect."

Presiding judge O-Gon Kwon brushed aside the objection and told Karadzic not to interrupt.

Wednesday's testimony completed a brief overview of the worst atrocities of the 1992-95 Bosnian war — the Srebrenica massacre, the siege and shelling of the capital, Sarajevo, and the brutal "ethnic cleansing" campaign early in the war to expel Muslims and Croats from territory claimed by Serbs.

In coming weeks and months, prosecutors are expected to present dozens more witnesses to give more detail about Serb atrocities and attempt to link Karadzic to them.

The prosecution contends that Karadzic, 64, is guilty as "supreme commander" of Bosnian Serb forces responsible for the crimes. If convicted, he faces life imprisonment.

Last week a man told judges how his wife was killed by a Serb shell while shopping at a Sarajevo market and another witness described how 20 Muslim men who were forced to dig their own graves and then were shot or had their throats cut by a Serb butcher as their village was ethnically cleansed early in the war.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100421/ap_on_re_eu/eu_war_crimes_karadzic;_ylt=Apsrikr2bpzIprj2Zq5RDAd0bBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTJ0dDg2ZTRvBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNDIxL2V1X3dhcl9jcmltZXNfa2FyYWR6aWMEcG9zAzQ0BHNlYwN5bl9wYWdpbmF0ZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA3NyZWJyZW5pY2FzdQ--

Karl Lueger
April 21st, 2010, 04:48 PM
The prosecution contends that Karadzic, 64, is guilty as "supreme commander" of Bosnian Serb forces responsible for the crimes. If convicted, he faces life imprisonment.

Last week a man told judges how his wife was killed by a Serb shell while shopping at a Sarajevo market and another witness described how 20 Muslim men who were forced to dig their own graves and then were shot or had their throats cut by a Serb butcher as their village was ethnically cleansed early in the war.


Its ALL lies, and poorly told ones at that. :p
If anybody believes that drivel its a good indication of how stupid they are.

Its simply a war against National identity;
whats a "bosnian" anyway..? a fake-muslim of Serb or Croat decent,
excluding turks, squipturds, kikes and similar garbage.

One of the funniest examples of idiots trying to propagandize was the "bread-line massacre"..
which just happened to have jew-media crews ready to film, got shelled form a muslim area..
and amongst the "victims" with all the fake blood were mannequins..:rofl

maybe they were buying bread for that skinny guy in all those pics behind the barbed-wire fence
that ended 5 meters to his left and leads to a wide open field. :rolleyes:

the only crimes that occurred in bosnia were committed by jihadists and US-Sponsored terrorists.

Serbian
April 21st, 2010, 11:35 PM
All these jew media lies about Serbian concentration camps, mass rapes, genocide, ethnic cleansing and war crimes against muslims have been manufactured by Washington and the EU in order to cover up their own crimes and aggression in the region. The biggest war crimes in Bosnia were committed by NATO and their local clients the Bosnian muslims.
Karadzic is a hero and he will continue to inspire not only Serb nationalists but all true European patriots. ZOG and Islam's unholy alliance in the former Yugoslavia needs to be exposed.