Preface paragraph to this thread: This true account of what just happened at my store is so bizarre that I am writing it down longhand Thursday night, and will drive to the Green Bank library tomorrow to post.
I feel as if I need the input from fellow VNNers. Truly, this encounter startled me. I hope to recount everything accurately enough that you will feel some of the same perplexing emotions as I did just a few minutes ago.
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There was a rush of customers, for a remote country store, this weekday evening. In the middle of the mini-deluge, two White men and a woman walked in. One man I recognized as a 38 year old happy-go-lucky, personable fellow who is popular and likes his beer. I had never met the couple with him. They were somewhat younger, the man about 34 and the woman perhaps 25-30. She was very clearly the brightest of the three, as I quickly learned from conversing.

So right off the bat, she asks me, as I stood behind my counter in my little study-alcove if I have "seen Eric lately". My mind is racing because I've been trying to memorize all the locals' names for the last month since I opened (Gray's Store, Aryan Autographs and 14 Words, L.L.C.). I'm thinking to myself- "Eric, Eric, Eric", and embarrassingly- I came up empty. So she says "Gliebe".

Well, as some of you know, I originally moved here because of my admiration for the past works of the NA (and more minorly, cause of the high elevation, the fact that there are only 72 muds in the county, no building codes etc.)...so I was pleased in the moment to meet a fellow racist. (I should know better. Not all NA people are racists- by a looooong shot!). In any case, I figured she was at least "White politically aware", else Eric Gliebe wouldn't be hanging out with her.

....So I bantered a friendly bit about how I'm not in NA, am, rather, a Creator and in White Revolution- both memberships of which I am proud and never hide. I explain how some in the NA don't like me cause of my White Revolution membership and the Strom-Linder thing. I mention I'm a VNN mod, and she nods knowingly (actually looks "appreciative") and that I used to post a lot on Stormfront etc. She mentions that she "talks to Eric a lot", "sees him all the time", and "is going to call him later tonight". So I ask if he is presently in Pocahontas County. Because I understand that he resides in Ohio, and last year I had his home phone number from up there. I even explain the fallout I had with Jamie Kelso (CAL). I ask her if she knows Jamie, and she nods slowly with lighted eyes and a demure smile showing all surety.

She then apprised me that "they'd just had a big meeting in Marlinton last week". I said, "Oh, I didn't know that. You're in the NA?"

"No", she answered, "but I'm friends with a lot of them."

"That's good", I say, genuinely and guilelessly pleased to meet one who I think is racially conscious, politically aware- a bright local White girl...she was clearly more sophisticated than any other local female I've met in her age bracket. After some more racialist conversation during which I lament the mud murder/rape rates of White women and show her my color photos of Eugene Terre Blanche behind the cash register together with the cadaver shots of White Boer farmers, she suddenly says to me: "You have some black in you too. We all do".

This causes immediate, serious pause. I knew a racialist would be highly unlikely to state with pat certitude such a pronouncement (and I have blondish-brown hair and light blue-gray eyes, so she obviously was not getting any visual clues from my being). I immediately mentioned my direct paternal lineage to Plymouth, 1632; to Kent, England, 1154; and the fact that Howell Cobb, the head of the Montgomery Convention which essentially founded the Confederacy, shares his 5th great grandfather as I do my 8th.

"How is it you have 'lots of friends' in the NA, and you say something like that? That sounds like something an anti would proclaim."

"I'm Elizabeth", she sweetly says, extending her hand.

"I'm Craig. Nice to meet you." Then, get this!...the instant after I just end my quick "I'm Craig, nice to meet you", she properly ends the normal handshake, brings her hand and arm back to her side and adds, as if she were still back making her original intro without the segway of my six words, [COLOR=Red]"..One of Eric's Jewish friends." [/COLOR]

Right here I have to state a few facts. I've said them before. But I'll restate them. I still greatly admire the flyer work of many NA members in the field. And I don't personally have any problems with the NA top guys, apart from being aware that Strom doesn't like me due to my VNN-Linder association. (Kelso is not a "top guy" in the NA). It does bother me that friends, acquaintances and posters whom I admire and who certainly know more than I do about (past or present) upper level NA goings-on...guys like Billy Roper, Alex, Fred Streed, White Will, Tom Martin, Ben Vinyard, Chris Quimby etc. I admit that it's impossible for me to believe that the past public and private statements of so many fine racialist leaders are totally berift of any veracity, merit or accuracy.

And another thing must be stated: Being an admitted Jewess, she could have been manipulatingly lying or exaggerating. My personal feeling, my "take" is that she was not. I know at least one of the guys with her is local (too), and he didn't gainsay a word of hers. I did finally notice that she had a semitic look which many Whites are unfortunately, coincidentally cursed with by fate. Had I met her in NYC instead of in the far flung White outpost, I'd have suspected her Jewishness from the outset.

Well, if her other "racialist friends" might perhaps have overlooked explaining the White perspective to her, she certainly wasn't going to get past me. "I have a lot of 'Jewish things' in my store", I quickly boast to her. "See? I was working on this whiteboard sign: 'God's Chosen Kohn-Kerry- Because Worse Is Better To Wake Up White People', and I'm listening to Michael Weiner Savage's maniacal ravings and kvetchings for Israel, as you can hear." Then I showed her my framed 'NY Times' of Monday, August 7th, 1933 in which Jew Samuel Untermyer, the author of the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, declares holy war on Hitler, calls the Jews the "aristocrats of the world", and calls Jews who ride on German ships "race traitors". I point out how Whites are currently villified by Jews as being "haters" for simply stating that WE are the "aristocrats of the world", hate "race traitors" and, at least in the case of Creators, recognize that we are currently engaged in an ongoing, vicious "holy war". My place is a veritable public temple of White Supremacy (and I have a beer license to...har, har, har!). She gets the tour.

LMAO. By the time I got round to laying a Panzerfaust Schoolyard Project CD on her taller local companion who was known to me- and I specifically recommended "Bound For Glory's" "Hate Train Rolling"- and proudly stated that Jeff Schoep, the head of the American Nazi Party was a friend of mine, "Eric's friend" was turning red, either choking or having great difficulty swallowing, and clearly exhibiting histrionic signs of wanting to take flight. I'm afraid it put her over the top when I calmy made some inflammatory (but here unrepeatable) personal opinion upon the morality of "group murder"..."executed similarly to how it is now being done to Whites by the Jewish press and powers".

Eric's girlfriend's sputtered and choked parting words, as she sidelong exited the door were: "White people are just jealous because we Jews stick together, and they don't".

I suppose she'll perhaps have to try and continue her ruminations on that topic and others with Eric via his private phone number. I don't think she likes me, and I don't think she'll be back. Good riddance, tricking, sticking-together jude vermin. No quarter. Fini.

Dammit, its too early in the morning for bizzaro crap like this! :) My brain is trying to process it...buts its TOO WEIRD.

[QUOTE=Chain]Preface paragraph to this thread: This true account of what just happened at my store is so bizarre that I am writing it down longhand Thursday night, and will drive to the Green Bank library tomorrow to post.
I feel as if I need the input from fellow VNNers. Truly, this encounter startled me. I hope to recount everything accurately enough that you will feel some of the same perplexing emotions as I did just a few minutes ago.
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There was a rush of customers, for a remote country store, this weekday evening. In the middle of the mini-deluge, two White men and a woman walked in. One man I recognized as a 38 year old happy-go-lucky, personable fellow who is popular and likes his beer. I had never met the couple with him. They were somewhat younger, the man about 34 and the woman perhaps 25-30. She was very clearly the brightest of the three, as I quickly learned from conversing.

So right off the bat, she asks me, as I stood behind my counter in my little study-alcove if I have "seen Eric lately". My mind is racing because I've been trying to memorize all the locals' names for the last month since I opened (Gray's Store, Aryan Autographs and 14 Words, L.L.C.). I'm thinking to myself- "Eric, Eric, Eric", and embarrassingly- I came up empty. So she says "Gliebe".

Well, as some of you know, I originally moved here because of my admiration for the past works of the NA (and more minorly, cause of the high elevation, the fact that there are only 72 muds in the county, no building codes etc.)...so I was pleased in the moment to meet a fellow racist. (I should know better. Not all NA people are racists- by a looooong shot!). In any case, I figured she was at least "White politically aware", else Eric Gliebe wouldn't be hanging out with her.

....So I bantered a friendly bit about how I'm not in NA, am, rather, a Creator and in White Revolution- both memberships of which I am proud and never hide. I explain how some in the NA don't like me cause of my White Revolution membership and the Strom-Linder thing. I mention I'm a VNN mod, and she nods knowingly (actually looks "appreciative") and that I used to post a lot on Stormfront etc. She mentions that she "talks to Eric a lot", "sees him all the time", and "is going to call him later tonight". So I ask if he is presently in Pocahontas County. Because I understand that he resides in Ohio, and last year I had his home phone number from up there. I even explain the fallout I had with Jamie Kelso (CAL). I ask her if she knows Jamie, and she nods slowly with lighted eyes and a demure smile showing all surety.

She then apprised me that "they'd just had a big meeting in Marlinton last week". I said, "Oh, I didn't know that. You're in the NA?"

"No", she answered, "but I'm friends with a lot of them."

"That's good", I say, genuinely and guilelessly pleased to meet one who I think is racially conscious, politically aware- a bright local White girl...she was clearly more sophisticated than any other local female I've met in her age bracket. After some more racialist conversation during which I lament the mud murder/rape rates of White women and show her my color photos of Eugene Terre Blanche behind the cash register together with the cadaver shots of White Boer farmers, she suddenly says to me: "You have some black in you too. We all do".

This causes immediate, serious pause. I knew a racialist would be highly unlikely to state with pat certitude such a pronouncement (and I have blondish-brown hair and light blue-gray eyes, so she obviously was not getting any visual clues from my being). I immediately mentioned my direct paternal lineage to Plymouth, 1632; to Kent, England, 1154; and the fact that Howell Cobb, the head of the Montgomery Convention which essentially founded the Confederacy, shares his 5th great grandfather as I do my 8th.

"How is it you have 'lots of friends' in the NA, and you say something like that? That sounds like something an anti would proclaim."

"I'm Elizabeth", she sweetly says, extending her hand.

"I'm Craig. Nice to meet you." Then, get this!...the instant after I just end my quick "I'm Craig, nice to meet you", she properly ends the normal handshake, brings her hand and arm back to her side and adds, as if she were still back making her original intro without the segway of my six words, [COLOR=Red]"..One of Eric's Jewish friends." [/COLOR]

Right here I have to state a few facts. I've said them before. But I'll restate them. I still greatly admire the flyer work of many NA members in the field. And I don't personally have any problems with the NA top guys, apart from being aware that Strom doesn't like me due to my VNN-Linder association. (Kelso is not a "top guy" in the NA). It does bother me that friends, acquaintances and posters whom I admire and who certainly know more than I do about (past or present) upper level NA goings-on...guys like Billy Roper, Alex, Fred Streed, White Will, Tom Martin, Ben Vinyard, Chris Quimby etc. I admit that it's impossible for me to believe that the past public and private statements of so many fine racialist leaders are totally berift of any veracity, merit or accuracy.

And another thing must be stated: Being an admitted Jewess, she could have been manipulatingly lying or exaggerating. My personal feeling, my "take" is that she was not. I know at least one of the guys with her is local (too), and he didn't gainsay a word of hers. I did finally notice that she had a semitic look which many Whites are unfortunately, coincidentally cursed with by fate. Had I met her in NYC instead of in the far flung White outpost, I'd have suspected her Jewishness from the outset.

Well, if her other "racialist friends" might perhaps have overlooked explaining the White perspective to her, she certainly wasn't going to get past me. "I have a lot of 'Jewish things' in my store", I quickly boast to her. "See? I was working on this whiteboard sign: 'God's Chosen Kohn-Kerry- Because Worse Is Better To Wake Up White People', and I'm listening to Michael Weiner Savage's maniacal ravings and kvetchings for Israel, as you can hear." Then I showed her my framed 'NY Times' of Monday, August 7th, 1933 in which Jew Samuel Untermyer, the author of the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, declares holy war on Hitler, calls the Jews the "aristocrats of the world", and calls Jews who ride on German ships "race traitors". I point out how Whites are currently villified by Jews as being "haters" for simply stating that WE are the "aristocrats of the world", hate "race traitors" and, at least in the case of Creators, recognize that we are currently engaged in an ongoing, vicious "holy war". My place is a veritable public temple of White Supremacy (and I have a beer license to...har, har, har!). She gets the tour.

LMAO. By the time I got round to laying a Panzerfaust Schoolyard Project CD on her taller local companion who was known to me- and I specifically recommended "Bound For Glory's" "Hate Train Rolling"- and proudly stated that Jeff Schoep, the head of the American Nazi Party was a frind of mine, "Eric's friend" was turning red, either choking or having great difficulty swallowing, and clearly exhibiting histrionic signs of wanting to take flight. I'm afraid it put her over the top when I calmy made some inflammatory (but here unrepeatable) perosnal opinion upon the morality of "group murder"..."executed similarly to how it is now being done to Whites by the Jewish press and powers".

Eric's girlfriend's sputtered and choked parting words, as she sidelong exited the door were: "White people are just jealous because we Jews stick together, and they don't".

I suppose she'll perhaps have to try and continue her ruminations on that topic and others with Eric via his private phone number. I don't think she likes me, and I don't think she'll be back. Good riddance, tricking, sticking-together jude vermin. No quarter. Fini.[/QUOTE]

Face it, this chick was not exactly David Irving. Slightly closer to Jewess Natalie Portman.

LOL

This greezy jewess was fucking with you, I get this type of stuff myself from time to time. When one of ‘em gets wind of your racialist beliefs, seems they always have to make some kind of comment to you. This scenario was a little more elaborate than most that I get, usually its some kind of inane remark in a public setting with plenty of ‘witnesses’ incase of litigation. Hahaha its not any real bravery on their part these ‘confrontations’ (I note she had a large, well known White citizen accompanying her, which is usually the case in a face to face like this LOL) and they also well know they have the full weight of the law backing their position, and more often than not Johnny Law is physically only a few steps away from an incident like this as well. I call this ‘jewish courage’ …the jew is today’s ‘establishment’ and likes to get in whitey’s face and rub it in, I commend you for playing the situation as cool as you did when she tried to rattle you …jewish cunts end up in therapy for less than your little ‘tour’ of your place BTW Chain, muwahahaha! :D
Cheers

TG

[QUOTE=T.Garrett]LOL

This greezy jewess was fucking with you, I get this type of stuff myself from time to time. When one of ‘em gets wind of your racialist beliefs, seems they always have to make some kind of comment to you. This scenario was a little more elaborate than most that I get, usually its some kind of inane remark in a public setting with plenty of ‘witnesses’ incase of litigation. Hahaha its not any real bravery on their part these ‘confrontations’ (I note she had a large, well known White citizen accompanying her, which is usually the case in a face to face like this LOL) and they also well know they have the full weight of the law backing their position, and more often than not Johnny Law is physically only a few steps away from an incident like this as well. I call this ‘jewish courage’ …the jew is today’s ‘establishment’ and likes to get in whitey’s face and rub it in, I commend you for playing the situation as cool as you did when she tried to rattle you …jewish cunts end up in therapy for less than your little ‘tour’ of your place BTW Chain, muwahahaha! :D
Cheers

TG[/QUOTE]
That sounds as if it well may be the case. I haven't been around too many jews since I grew up in the midwest (where there were too many in my city), and attended prep school in the east. I'd forgotten the nerve they have to, as a matter of day to day course, deceive face to face.

Thanks, T. Garrett.

she may be fucking with you for fun, lying to create disinformation and disruption, who the hell knows its possible? or maybe she's a jewcunt who wants a piece of your white bone TG knows about that eh? Transgressive little freakniks!

You've got real stones to open up a physical location, Chain, congratulations. Make sure you have good cgl insurance.

You should have asked this 'Elizabeth' "Oh, I didn't know Eric had any jewish friends???"
Then see what she says.

Doesn't sound like rurual WV has too many jews anyway, so she could be messing with you at the behest of someone else.

Btw, Your store sounds pretty interesting Chain.

I wouldn't lose too much sleep over this episode. Probably just a bored jewish girl trying to come across as tough or just another NA story.
The NA seems so trite and immature now. Whatever quality was ever there is now all but gone.
It reminds me of some sort of highschool clique full of self important weirdos.

She could have been one of those people that wanted to see you backtrack in the actual face of a Jew and got red faced when you manned up and showed her you was an Aryan.

I have been in conversations talking about race traitors and some white woman say “she had had a white boyfriend” expecting me to back peddle but I didn’t. No matter who is a Jew or a race traitor it doesn’t make it right.

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin].....and got red faced when you manned up and showed her you was an Aryan.
[/QUOTE]

Chain, you was doin dat mah man? Was you doin dat?

Like other people have said ,it just seems like some jew sh*t stirring.

Curiouser and curiouser, it gets. Damn strange. If she really is a "friend" of the snake oil genious why flaunt it in public like that? What would it gain her? Seems to be more to gain by being kind of low key about it and pulling his strings from the shadows like kikes usually do.

Could it be that the Yiddim have decided to pre-empt the White Nationalist movement by joining it and taking it over? I understand something along these lines has happened to the BNP, maybe they are going to try it here. Hell, it worked with the Republican party. "Reasonable" Jews could be willing to go on record as opposing our lax immigration standards, after all we sure don't need any more fanatical towel heads here, they might start burning synagogs and shooting up Jew day care centers at any time. Of course there isn't much we can do about the Hispanics who are coming across our borders but hey, they do the work that no one else will do and we are lucky to have them. And of course Jewish people have through hard work and their business acumen been very successful and they are not hesitant about financially supporting causes they deem to be in their interest. Of course some of this crazy talk about secret Jewish conspiracies and stuff will have to be toned down, but that kind of stuff just turns people off anyway and you can't expect to be taken seriously by normal people when you are raving like a lunatic about holohoaxes and communism and stuff like that. Yes, tone down some of the more wild eyed radical stuff and perhaps mainstream politics might be within reach with the right candidates and proper backing.

I've talked to a few Jewish men and one Jewish woman, ALL played this trick on me! :mad: Jews LOVE to talk to racists/Nazis etc and play nice nice with you and act white. They will try to become friends with you and even ask you how you feel about them then when it's all over they tell you they are Jews. :rolleyes: I can't image how many Jewish infiltrators there are in the W.N. movement.

You'd better read "Mother Night" by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. and wise up.

[QUOTE=Chain]There was a rush of customers, for a remote country store, this weekday evening....
Eric's girlfriend's sputtered and choked parting words, as she sidelong exited the door were: "White people are just jealous because we Jews stick together, and they don't".
[/QUOTE]It would have been funny if you directed her towards the central wood stove in your country store.

[QUOTE=Cracker oftheWhip]It would have been funny if you directed her towards the central wood stove in your country store.[/QUOTE]


"And over here is the oven where we bake fresh pipin' hot Jews every mornin'"

Certainly an odd story, especially since when I drove into West Virginia, the welcoming billboard read:

Welcome to West Virginia!
"No Jews, Just Right"

[QUOTE=Jim Crowe]Certainly an odd story, especially since when I drove into West Virginia, the welcoming billboard read:

Welcome to West Virginia!
"No Jews, Just Right"[/QUOTE]
You mean you was two miles from my house and I didn't know it?
There goes the neighborhood.

Weird.

The 'I know X, do you know him?' is a classic Police/Jew line. What really interests them is not what you've got in your back room, but who you know. What they really want to discover is the network.

With regard to the question of being one of 'Erich's Jewish friends', this I am inclined to doubt. It's too glib - much too like disinformation. JA is right - they would be more likely to stay in the background and pull the strings.

You'd be surprised how many ineligible individuals try to join White groups sincerely.

When I was in the NA, I once met up with a person who had contacted the local NA unit and wanted to meet someone in the NA. I met the person and had a conversation. Not only was this person a half Jew, but he was also the son of the state director of the ACLU!

I am guessing his contacting the NA was motivated by his relationship with his very liberal Jewish father and lemming mother. It also turns out that his sister was married to some Jamaican negroid muscle-builder and he seemed to feel emasculated by that (the person was of a somewhat effete character). I even suspect he was hoping the NA would beat the crap out of the negroid whom his parents had embraced and he felt intimidated by.

Whatever he was, at least he was honest. I politely informed him that his half-Jew status disqualified him from NA membership but that the C of CC might well be right up his alley and that he should contact them.
[QUOTE=Heinrich Himmler SS]I've talked to a few Jewish men and one Jewish woman, ALL played this trick on me! :mad: Jews LOVE to talk to racists/Nazis etc and play nice nice with you and act white. They will try to become friends with you and even ask you how you feel about them then when it's all over they tell you they are Jews. :rolleyes: I can't image how many Jewish infiltrators there are in the W.N. movement.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]Chain, you was doin dat mah man? Was you doin dat?[/QUOTE]

AE picking on the Doc's grammar seems a little out of character for you. I guess we all have our breaking point.

Funnily enough, I have heard rumors of Erich having a "jew girl" fetish. I believe there was an Alliance member, who was married to some white guy, but she was a jew, but self hating, or some such rubbish. At any rate, I'd heard that Erich had broken them up by sleeping with this jew alliance member. Could just be a rumor, but who knows. It was a little before my time, perhaps Billy can name names and elaborate a bit...

-Tom

[QUOTE=Derrick Beukeboom]You should have asked this 'Elizabeth' "Oh, I didn't know Eric had any jewish friends???"
Then see what she says.

Doesn't sound like rurual WV has too many jews anyway, so she could be messing with you at the behest of someone else.

Btw, Your store sounds pretty interesting Chain.

I wouldn't lose too much sleep over this episode. Probably just a bored jewish girl trying to come across as tough or just another NA story.
The NA seems so trite and immature now. Whatever quality was ever there is now all but gone.
It reminds me of some sort of highschool clique full of self important weirdos.[/QUOTE]

There's no telling what kind of "friends" a man who is led by his genitals might have.

www.whitedate.org is now defunct, I believe. The site charged a ridiculous amount of money for the alleged opportunity to meet quality White women, of whom very few participated in the forum because of the ridiculous price.

"Elizabeth Bennett" was that person's moniker. I have always doubted that it really was a female behind the name, since the overt phallic fixation is more typical of male queers than of normal women. On the other hand, if "Elizabeth Bennett" were a Jewess, it would account for the completely unladylike conduct.

Why does it always have to be the jews who manipulate the Whites?

Is it possible that Gliebe's manipulating a jew?

Why not?

[QUOTE=brutus]Why does it always have to be the jews who manipulate the Whites?

Is it possible that Gliebe's manipulating a jew?

Why not?[/QUOTE]


I have absolutely no doubt that the Gleebster THINKS he is manipulating the kikess. Just like he used to manipulate Lawrence Meyers.

brutus: "Is it possible that Gliebe's manipulating a jew? Why not?"

Fred Streed: "I have absolutely no doubt that the Gleebster THINKS he is manipulating the kikess. Just like he used to manipulate Lawrence Meyers."

Hadding: This illustrates the axiom that it is a lot easier to swindle a man who is a little bit crooked himself, who can be lured into doing something inadvisable thinking that he is the real swindler.

[QUOTE=Hadding]This illustrates the axiom that it is a lot easier to swindle a man who a little bit crooked himself, who will be lured into doing something inadvisable thinking that he is the real swindler.[/QUOTE]
Very true.

[QUOTE=Hadding]www.whitedate.org is now defunct, I believe. The site charged a ridiculous amount of money for the alleged opportunity to meet quality White women, of whom very few participated in the forum because of the ridiculous price.

"Elizabeth Bennett" was that person's moniker. I have always doubted that it really was a female behind the name, since the overt phallic fixation is more typical of male queers than of normal women. On the other hand, if "Elizabeth Bennett" were a Jewess, it would account for the completely unladylike conduct.[/QUOTE]

Think maybe that was Lizzie Bennet hub? If so......

Chain, you could have told her you are "uncut" and then she might have wanted to toss you right there! LOL

[QUOTE=Chain]There was a rush of customers, for a remote country store, this weekday evening. In the middle of the mini-deluge, two White men and a woman walked in. One man I recognized as a 38 year old happy-go-lucky, personable fellow who is popular and likes his beer. I had never met the couple with him. They were somewhat younger, the man about 34 and the woman perhaps 25-30. She was very clearly the brightest of the three, as I quickly learned from conversing.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying the local guy you knew came in with the couple, as if they were friends? Who's to say the couple weren't spies and had paid the local to bring them there? In any case, I would now be suspicious of this "local" guy!