Please accept my humble apologies for spamming, trolling, and generally causing a ruckus here at VNN? I have been selfish, rude, disrespectful, and knuckleheaded. I especially owe White Will an apology for doubting his character and his true intentions for "our" people.

Tom has assured me that White Will is on "our" side. One of my mistakes was mis-understanding a harmless comment that Will made toward me. I incorrectly assumed he was making a violent threat. I was wrong. He was just joking the whole time. I have had problems with threats in the past and maybe I'm a bit on edge these days.

I understand now, why White Will, has been ignoring me, why he thinks I'm a covingtonista, or worse just a juvenile hobbyist. To tell you the truth, I don't really blame him. With the particular circumstances happening to him, now in his life (battlling with covington) and all of the very strange coincidences concerning my identity(from northwest, similar writing style as covingtons?, seems to agree with covington on "some" issues?, covington just happened to be spamming the board with 10 aliases, during the same time that I became a member?) Who really knows why we didn't recognize each other as friends? Other members have hinted at the problem. Explaining that this Medium in General doesn't lend to much "trust". If every body is a "troll" then what really is the point?

I have tried to be as open and honest as I can be. Maybe that's a mistake?
I have always loved reading and I will of course take White Will's advice to keep reading. How could I not?
No more secret codes on the board.
No more controlling the codes on the Front Page.
No more slandering other members, even if slandered first. Well, I'll try!
No more inciting trolls.
No more spamming, trolling, or annoying other members.

I, Billy Bob, Do Solemnly sware.
I would love to be a part of your growing community.
If you will have me?
Thanks to Tom for taking "personal time" off from "his life" to help me understand.
That is greatly appreciated Sir.

Spoken like a real man, and I think this will put a lot to rest. Billy Bobs heart's in the right place, and I think he can be an asset to the forum. Thanks for posting, Billy Bob.

-Tom


Please accept my humble apologies for spamming, trolling, and generally causing a ruckus here at VNN? I have been selfish, rude, disrespectful, and knuckleheaded. I especially owe White Will an apology for doubting his character and his true intentions for "our" people.

Tom has assured me that White Will is on "our" side. One of my mistakes was mis-understanding a harmless comment that Will made toward me. I incorrectly assumed he was making a violent threat. I was wrong. He was just joking the whole time. I have had problems with threats in the past and maybe I'm a bit on edge these days.

I understand now, why White Will, has been ignoring me, why he thinks I'm a covingtonista, or worse just a juvenile hobbyist. To tell you the truth, I don't really blame him. With the particular circumstances happening to him, now in his life (battlling with covington) and all of the very strange coincidences concerning my identity(from northwest, similar writing style as covingtons?, seems to agree with covington on "some" issues?, covington just happened to be spamming the board with 10 aliases, during the same time that I became a member?) Who really knows why we didn't recognize each other as friends? Other members have hinted at the problem. Explaining that this Medium in General doesn't lend to much "trust". If every body is a "troll" then what really is the point?

I have tried to be as open and honest as I can be. Maybe that's a mistake?
I have always loved reading and I will of course take White Will's advice to keep reading. How could I not?
No more secret codes on the board.
No more controlling the codes on the Front Page.
No more slandering other members, even if slandered first. Well, I'll try!
No more inciting trolls.
No more spamming, trolling, or annoying other members.

I, Billy Bob, Do Solemnly sware.
I would love to be a part of your growing community.
If you will have me?
Thanks to Tom for taking "personal time" off from "his life" to help me understand.
That is greatly appreciated Sir.

Please accept my humble apologies for spamming, trolling, and generally causing a ruckus here at VNN? I have been selfish, rude, disrespectful, and knuckleheaded. I especially owe White Will an apology for doubting his character and his true intentions for "our" people...

Words are cheap, Billy Bob, but I'll accept your apology. Even though I don't want to have to sift through your 400 prior posts to find good commentary from others, I'll "unIgnore" you, for now. Consider yourself on probation with me.

Now grovel and fawn some more and tell us about your silly "experiment" with this board. I'm all ears.

The results will be forthcoming. The analysis is almost complete. Be patient, it will be well worth the wait. I'll even try to use a "schpeel" checker before I post it.

White Will,
Thanks for your willingness to give old Billy Bob a second chance.
I'll try not to blow it, and strike out.

I have learned a lot from the "words" of Ben Klassen and Dr. William Pierce.

Their writings were not mere "words" however, to me, but the expression of what was important in their lives.

Their writings, to me, represent their convictions, goals, and true intentions concerning the future survival of our race.

Words are indeed cheaply used,
Actions always speak much louder
to determine a person's true intentions!

Sometimes words are actions, depending on how the words used.
Example, Witness testimony.

Voluntary action to Speak, Write, or express an Idea, that may result in the dispossession, incarceration, and ultimate destruction of the individual..

Didn't Martin Luther use his words, nailed to the church door, to change the course of history?

Some would argue he did?

Let's argue for the survival of our white children's children.
It's their future that is important to me.

wouldn't you agree?

Words are cheap, Billy Bob, but I'll accept your apology. Even though I don't want to have to sift through your 400 prior posts to find good commentary from others, I'll "unIgnore" you, for now. Consider yourself on probation with me.

Now grovel and fawn some more and tell us about your silly "experiment" with this board. I'm all ears.

...tell us about your... "experiment" with this board. I'm all ears.

Nothing life-shattering, so don't get your hopes up. As you probably know I approached Tom about a week ago inquiring about his webhosting service. He sold his service to us and offerred the same software that runs the Vnn forum, to moderate a few forums of "our" own. In an attempt to see if the format via Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. would be suitable for our purposes, which are very similar to Alex's purposes, as stated in his welcome and introduction, on the main home/index page, we proceeded to attempt to "try out" the software from a user/members perspective. I made some very interesting observations concerning what a member could and could not do, given, the current level of moderation presently at the VNN forum.

The fact that a person, with a crappy dial-up internet connection, could cause such a ruckus, with out even trying very hard, is not encouraging. New members are being driven away by spammers and that doesn't help our organization to grow. Allowing anonymous repitition of alias "poseurs" certainly wouldn't be of any use to us. I could see How the yahoo-dies would use this unmoderated format for their purposes.

I would prefer full-time professional moderation so that every new person could be properly guided to where he needs to be according to his unique gifts and characteristics. Maybe we need to refer people to job placement services so their time and contributions can be effectively utilized.

The software allows for this, which is good.
It remains to be seen at VNN.

Contrary to the would-be detractors of moderation, the VNN forum can remain uncensored and free as long as standards of decency are accepted by members. These standards can be decided by Alex or by senior members if he wishes to delegate.

After seeing pictures of Roper's Bloodied Face, I wonder if privately secured gatherings wouldn't be safer for our young children when we have Family gatherings. Having Family gatherings in public, due to the violent nature of the jewish communities, may not be the wisest decision for white men.

What good can come from being publicly bloodied? Martyrdom?
Sure, bad publicity can be seen by some, to be better than no publicity.
I would disagree. In my opinion bad publicity sucks most of the time. Sometimes it can be good, if it has been planned correctly.

The ability to welcome and greet each Guest properly is very important.
There are many watcher's, detractors, and enemies who just don't want us to help our own racial brethren.

All we want to do is help our people to be able to;
Honor Our Heritage, Ideals, and Culture,
Encourage Pride in the Raising of Our Families,
and Realize Our Dreams for our Children's Children's Bright Future.

Some members of this forum believe total security is a dream that will never be realized. This is true most of the time. But where there is WILL, there is a way.

Of course one must not assume that every keystroke of every monitored computer has been, carefully analyzed, categorized, databased, and has been placed, ready for use, when necessary, by our enemies. They do have access to the best technology. Sheckels may not buy you Love, but they sure buy lots of Information Technology. It's better to know these things.

Has technology advanced with regards to those types of surveillance capabilities and more? Of course they have. Do we have any privacy left? Only if you work really hard at it! You know, "go the extra-mile", kind of thing! This may not be relevant or important to you, as you may have already voluntarily given up all of your privacy like I have. Let's face it, being a part of this system requires a voluntary submission which allows no privacy. Be rest assured those who have been in-side the system for a long time have little or no privacy. This can work to our advantage, in the proper circumstances, however.

We can only demonstrate specific advantages, to using this software for our puposes, in a hands on environment, one on one, in a physically personal way. Somethings, unfortunately, just have to be shown. You know, monkey see, monkey do! How can I explain with words "RED" or "BLUE" unless you have "seen the colors firsthand" to be able to understand "what the words mean." Though many advantages of using this software for our purposes can "only be shown", suffice it to say, that the seven best points should be enough for you to decide whether or not you think we can work with the existing format here at VNN.


Seven Good points to consider about our current software.
All post's deleted by the members can be retrieved and databased.
All threads deleted by the administrators can be retrieved and databased.
All editing of posts can be chronologically databased for later analyzation.
All members actions, for example who is viewing who's actions at any given time, can be chronologically databased and accessed for later use.
All new members can be pre-screened for sincerity.
All un-screened users/members, trolls, or sincere members who roll-over, who engauge in alias-spamming, alias-trolling, or other malicious alias-activities can be traced to point of origin with regards to initial contact points. This means their true identities can be effective warned, and or prosecuted publicly, if necessary.
All sincerely enlightened members can use this software in such a way to communicate with each other semi-privately, to totally privately, depending on which methods are employed. This is of course requires outside of the box methodologies.

This, hopefully, harmless experiment was selfish in some ways, testing out a software package to further our own personal goals. It certainly was helpful for us though. I'm confident Vnn will survive the juvenile hobbyist-like molestation perpetrated by Billy Bob. I think our goals can be achieved here, if the forum has pro-active moderators who can sincerely guide our people.

Words are indeed cheaply used,

The most precious things tend to be characterized by scarcity. This might be applicable to a persons words. Let Sparta be your role model; make every word count.

Nothing life-shattering, so don't get your hopes up. As you probably know I approached Tom about a week ago inquiring about his webhosting service. He sold his service to us and offerred the same software that runs the Vnn forum, to moderate a few forums of "our" own.

I still advocate a test run of the Kuro5hin "scoop" software for web forums. It is free, and has been hammered on and refined by several large online communities and a team of crack programmers for three years now. It works pretty damn skookum.

I think "scoop" would be ideal for running VNN. It is easy to set up, configure, maintain, and it has been built for the past three years to almost automatically handle crap-flooders, trolling, etc. It is a community moderated board software, but the admins still have full override power. It minimizes the admins work, without decreasing any of the admins power.

White men collaborate best when they empower each other. Kuro5hin empowers like a fruitcake on fire. Play with it for a week. It has a lot of subtleties that seem minor, but that have a big impact on the nature of the communities it hosts... and for the better.

Is that brief enough for you?

Yeah. Don't use bold so much though. Your signature is also pretty spammy looking, even when you don't say much in your post. And it is almost always better to put your comment below the quoted text, not above it.

To avoid being taken for a spammer, it is not enough to not spam. One must also avoid the APPEARANCE of being a spammer. Things like using lots of !!!! are frequent indicators of spam, as are things like top posting (putting your comments above the quoted text) and signatures that take up more than two lines.

Where can I review those guidelines, decribing the proper method of posting?

RFC 1855 is the internet standard for posting. The whole thing is recommended reading: http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html

To read more about the general principles, as opposed to the specific recommendations above, click here: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html

With a little practice, you can have polish and poise in your posts, and it will boost your credibility and the pleasure with which others read your posts 100 percent. Good luck!

I tried. The water is in front of you. Drink as thou wilt.

Most water that is freely given to the masses contains poisons too numerous to list. I generally distill my water to 100% purity before drinking. I'm kind of funny that way! But certainly, I will take it for what it is. Thanks again Linc!
I tried. The water is in front of you. Drink as thou wilt.