View Full Version : The Future of Metal
prozak
October 20th, 2004, 05:57 PM
Over time metalheads gain enough experience and insight to realize that, with a few exceptions, the metal genre is unthinking slobs slashing out three chord rock and pretending that somehow it is more "profound" than other rock music. This has reached its peak in black metal, where the crowd who believe that socialization is more important than music content now impress each other with new aesthetic recombinations of the same old, same old.
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(Art and Romanticism, in the Indo-European style.)
TheGreenMan
October 21st, 2004, 06:43 AM
'Metal' is dying out?.
Does it reflect the wider avaialabity or greater effectiveness of public education? as fewer numbskulls are 'out there' as fans of 'Metal'.
:confused:
prozak
November 15th, 2004, 10:11 PM
Does it reflect the wider avaialabity or greater effectiveness of public education? as fewer numbskulls are 'out there' as fans of 'Metal'.
Of all the mainstream music genres, metal - at its best - is the most classical in spirit.
I exclude from the list of metal bands the hard rock (AC/DC) and truly degenerate garbage (Cannibal Corpse).
You want Indo-European popular music? The best I've heard so far:
Ambient/Industrial:
Einsturzende Neubauten
Tangerine Dream
Kraftwerk
Metal:
Emperor
Burzum
Immortal
Enslaved
Incantation
Gorgoroth
Antiochus Epiphanes
November 16th, 2004, 02:52 PM
I have a burzum cd. I think its a worthwhile sort of project, and I'm happy to have listened to it a few times, but in my view it rates pretty low for entertainment. While I find ACDC incredibly entertaining, exhilarating, enervating music.
Music as art that is not entertaining, I dont have much patience for. I regard my own tastes as tastes alone. Chacun a son gout. But ideally I believe art should hold one's attention. Burzum wanders perilously close to boring incoherent drivel at times. To me it is chaotic and nihilistic while ACDC for example is life affirming if only in the hedonistic sense. I would embrace life affirming hedonism over nihilistic inward turned depressing resentment any day of the week.
I get a very distinct impression of resentment in Burzum. Rather than being the exemplery kind of Aryan music so many folks suggest, it kind of reminds me of the very ressentiment that Nietzsche accused the Jews of having in Genealogy of Morals.
heaven above
November 16th, 2004, 03:00 PM
Hard Rock/Greebo or heavy metal ,hasn't changed since the very late 1960's . It's just another generation of mainly white disaffected youth following some long haired screaming twanging layabouts, with a loud drum in the background.
These generations just 'grow up' and out of that sort of electric twanging screeching rubbish.
Air guitars ? Just about sums these idiots up methinks :rolleyes:
Antiochus Epiphanes
November 16th, 2004, 03:12 PM
"greebo" I've never heard that one before. I love that British slang! Cool word, "greebo." Any clue where that term came from?
heaven above
November 16th, 2004, 04:06 PM
It's an old term we used to use for the bikers/long haired rockers types. It was commonly used by skinheads from 1968/1969 era.
Football hooligans were all skinheads at that time. :cool:
prozak
November 16th, 2004, 09:32 PM
I get a very distinct impression of resentment in Burzum. Rather than being the exemplery kind of Aryan music so many folks suggest, it kind of reminds me of the very ressentiment that Nietzsche accused the Jews of having in Genealogy of Morals.
Interesting, but I don't get any of that from it; it takes a degenerate genre and makes it into something ambitious, heroic in my view. But I don't like "entertaining" art. Entertainment is like a mental diaper.
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