rounder,
i have read your responce to m.lindstedt and i know you have given a lot to our cause.i dont say movement because its a joke. but heres my question to you howdo you defend the mix breed kid you have??????????

[QUOTE=jebstu88]rounder,
i have read your responce to m.lindstedt and i know you have given a lot to our cause.i dont say movement because its a joke. but heres my question to you howdo you defend the mix breed kid you have??????????[/QUOTE]



You make that post as your first post? Ok...

Why not try another forum if this one does not suit you?



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[QUOTE=jebstu88]rounder,
i have read your responce to m.lindstedt and i know you have given a lot to our cause.i dont say movement because its a joke. but heres my question to you howdo you defend the mix breed kid you have??????????[/QUOTE]

I believe Glenn's official line on all of the ghastly and unconscionable things he did is either 1) "I was young and foolish" and/or 2) "The devil made me do it" in various devilish forms, the Feds, Harold Covington, those awful [sic] Order guys, etc. Everyone is responsible for Glenn Miller crumpling like an empty beer can, licking Federal boots, betraying the cause and betraying basic human decency, except of course Glenn Miller.

Miller's excuses aren't important. What is significant is the complete loss of anything remotely resembling a moral compass by the White racial resistance movement. No one seems to give a damn. As near as I can figure, there is no more right or wrong in the Movement.

There are other examples, for example the "Revisionist Conference" hosted in April by open homosexual Walter Mueller, to which Jewish "Revisionist" Barry Chamish was invited, two of whose more prominent promoters were Jamie Kelso of the NA and..ah, well, as a courtesy we'll let a discreet silence fall here.

And of course that appalling, dumbfounding mass act of solipsism in New Orleans on May 29th, where a couple of hundred middle-aged Double Diamond groupies drank the grape kool-aid of forgetfulness, with the crowning hypocrisy of the so-called "New Orleans Procotols", otherwise known as the "Protocols To Let David Duke Off The Hook."

Apparently, in the Movement it's now OK to:

*Inform on your comrades in return for a bottle of whisky. (Miller)

*Testify in court for a prosecution seeking the death penalty against ones' comrades. (Miller, twice.)

*Live for many years in the Witness Protection Program, taking Federal money. (Miller, James Ellison)

*Be a race-mixer and have mixed-race children. (Miller, plus that guy at NA whose name escapes me.)

*Advocate feminism. (several NA examples you all will be familiar with)

*Advocate tolerance of homosexuality (Edgar Steele, Tony Clifton, somebody in charge at NA who has altered the application form and booklist)

*BE a homosexual (Walter Mueller, Martin Webster, Tony Clifton, and frankly, too damned many other examples to mention)

*Hobknob with Jews (that entire Revisionist conference crew including Jamie Kelso from the NA)

*BE a Jew (Barry Chamish viz. above)

*Gamble away donation money (David Duke)

Oh, hell, you guys all know damned well what I'm talking about. The whole so-called "modernization" trend.

Makes you kind of wonder what is the purpose of our whole effort?

Or is there one any more?

-Bob

This is completely off topic, but I think David Duke's dad (re?)married an asian woman. I met him long time ago...

Oh, irony...


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*Inform on your comrades in return for a bottle of whisky. (Miller)


Oh, come on. Who paid in whiskey? That was the payment?? Give a concrete answer, with a source.

I await your answer.





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[QUOTE=Anima Eternae]This is completely off topic, but I think David Duke's dad (re?)married an asian woman. I met him long time ago...

Oh, irony...


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Why do you even post at VNNF?




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[QUOTE=Rounder]
You might also click on my signature below and read posts # 171, 174, and 176 to learn my verifiable activisms for the past 11 years, or so.
[/QUOTE]
Takes you here Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans What happened it worked fine the other day?

I don't think that post is going to help anyone understand you better Miller. :p

List of forgetfull VNN'ers post #171 (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=134004#post134004)

I see what happened now you left out a 4
you typed 13400#post134004 instead of 134004#post134004
Here is your URL and the second one will be the right one
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=13400#post134004
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=134004#post134004

See the differance in the first one yours and the second one the right one.

I noticed you badmouthed just about everybody but Harold Covington.
you piece of chicken snot, couch potato, anonymous coward you.
Those two lines about cracked me up.



BTW I am sure Dean Roberts likes the way we switched his thread subject. LOL

you piece of chicken snot, couch potato, anonymous coward you. (Watch him slither away like a whipped puppy yaw'll and refuse to answer my questions, while changing the subject, firing pot-shot half-truth innuendos, all designed to forment diviseness and demoralizations of VNN'ers, to give aid and comfort to our racial enemies.

Yes unlike your comrade and his well substantiated record of activism. Your comrade who only yesterday was mocking Dr. Pierce and his record of accomplishment. It must be great to stand taller than everyone else like your valiant comrade.

[QUOTE=Franco]Oh, come on. Who paid in whiskey? That was the payment?? Give a concrete answer, with a source.

I await your answer.





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The source is Glenn Miller himself, answering under cross-examination at the Shelby murder trial of Doug Sheets in 1989. There were a number of extensive articles in the North Carolina newspapers at the time regarding Miller's "flipping"; it might be worthwhile for someone who still lives down there to try and look them up.

[QUOTE=Bob Rudisill]The source is Glenn Miller himself, answering under cross-examination at the Shelby murder trial of Doug Sheets in 1989. There were a number of extensive articles in the North Carolina newspapers at the time regarding Miller's "flipping"; it might be worthwhile for someone who still lives down there to try and look them up.[/QUOTE]

You seem to know quite a lot about Glenn Miller. Have you met and worked with him before?

[QUOTE=Rounder]Gee Rudisill, you obviously know alot about WN leaders - [/QUOTE]

No, Glenn, just about you.

Do you honest to God not remember me? Christ almighty, you poor wretched SOB, you really WERE so damned drunk you don't remember, weren't you?

[QUOTE=Rounder]
I noticed you badmouthed just about everybody but Harold Covington.
[/QUOTE]

Speaking of whom, I understand Covington is banned here, and that's a pity. Someone might get around to asking him what he thinks of you, Glenn..including your turning all of your correspondence with Covington when he was in South Africa and Ireland over to the FBI in 1983, four years before your major trouble.

(Source: eyewitness who watched Miller hand over documents to two agents at his farmhouse in Johnston County, and files Covington himself obtained from the Freedom of Information Act years later which he photocopied and distributed)

Yep, folks, that's right. Glenn Miller was informing on his friends and comrades YEARS before his so-called crisis and "Declaration of War" and arrest in 1987.

[QUOTE=Rounder]Meantime, I don't suppose you'd muster an iota of actual courage/guts and tell us your real name.[/QUOTE]

My name is Bob Rudisill, you whisky-sodden, pathetic old lush.

Jesus. It's true, isn't it? You really WERE so goddamned drunk you don't remember the dozen or so times we met at your house and at marches?

[QUOTE=Rounder][/QUOTE]

God, you're pathetic.

You're drunk now, aren't you?

[QUOTE=Bob Rudisill]My name is Bob Rudisill, you whisky-sodden, pathetic old lush.

Jesus. It's true, isn't it? You really WERE so goddamned drunk you don't remember the dozen or so times we met at your house and at marches?[/QUOTE]

Hmm, you live in the Pacific Northwest, have met Miller dozens of times at marches and at his house. Seem to know all about Miller.

It is you, Tubby! Welcome back!

[QUOTE=Steve B]Hmm, you live in the Pacific Northwest, have met Miller dozens of times at marches and at his house. Seem to know all about Miller.

It is you, Tubby! Welcome back![/QUOTE]

[chuckle] No, but I certainly have no objection to being taken for HAC. It's an honor I share with a lot of people. He's kind of like a Movement Robin Goodfellow, a mysterious sprite who allegedly haunts the internet.

In point of fact, I know Covington and he no longer participates in internet forums like this at all. He has his own Yahoo group and that's about it.

Oh, and he does a regular chat room on Sunday nights.

They seek him here,
They seek him there,
They seek him nearly everywhere.
Is he in heaven, is he in hell?
This damn'd elusive Pimpernel?

[QUOTE=Rounder]I hereby SWEAR I will pay ANYONE $10,000 cash to anyone who can present to this forum, [drunken gibberish snipped][/QUOTE]

Christ, you ARE!

You're drunk right now, aren't you, Glenn?

You know, Glenn, you shouldn't challenge people like that..has it occurred to you that someone might actually GET curious enough to go back to Cleveland County, North Carolina and look up the Shelby case and the documentation. The Fort Smith Sedition trial was bad enough, to be sure, but Shelby is your Achilles heel...what if someone takes the time to track down Bob Stonor? (Unless he's drunk himself to death since 1989, which he may well have done.)

[QUOTE=Rounder]Go one-on-one and man-to-man with me on your chat forum then, and I kick you ass there just like I'm kicking it here. I dare you. What's the website address? Come on. Here's your chance to drum up some WNs for your idiotic, go-run-and-hide-from-the-jews-and-niggers "Northwest Migration" surrender-and-run-with-your-tail-between-your-leg "plan".[/QUOTE]

Oooooh, looks like I hit a nerve, didn't I?

Comes the dawn, people, comes the fucking DAWN!! Oh, YEAH!!!

That's it, people. All you VNNers out there who are disturbed by this whole creepy Miller/Linder thing? That's his weak point--the Shelby, North Carolina trial of 1989.

You see, Doug Sheets had a pretty good lawyer, and that lawyer did a lot of what was called pre-trial discovery, especially about the state's "star witness," Frazier Glenn Miller. I know because I was still there.

Two of the people who assisted the defense of Doug Sheets were attorney Kirk Lyons, a name which will be familiar to many of you, and--Harold Covington, who handled some Movement contacts for the defense. And you know, weird as it seems, I had forgotten about that until just now! So no sweat, Glenn, you're not the only one with a memory getting senile.

THAT'S why the very mention of Covington's name sends you into the heebie-jeebies, isn't it, Glenn? Because COVINGTON SAW SOME OF THE DEFENSE DISCOVERY MATERIAL at the Shelby murder trial in 1989?

What has he got on you, Glenn?

Damn, I wish I WERE Covington!!!

But you know what? I think I'm going to ask him.

:)

you two can duke it out on http://www.vnnlive.com .. vnn's 24/7 live chat

[QUOTE=Bob Rudisill][chuckle] No, but I certainly have no objection to being taken for HAC. It's an honor I share with a lot of people. He's kind of like a Movement Robin Goodfellow, a mysterious sprite who allegedly haunts the internet.

In point of fact, I know Covington and he no longer participates in internet forums like this at all. He has his own Yahoo group and that's about it.

Oh, and he does a regular chat room on Sunday nights.

They seek him here,
They seek him there,
They seek him nearly everywhere.
Is he in heaven, is he in hell?
This damn'd elusive Pimpernel?[/QUOTE]

Well "Bob" since you know the Tub-man personally could you pass along a few questions to him for me?

1) Did Covington really say that Pierce voluntarily handed over to the FBI and Cool Mo' the NA's mailing list on at least 3 occasions?

2) Did Covington really say Gliebe is now under Federal investigation for allegedly "embezzling" $30,000 of receipts from Eastern European distributors for Resistance Records?

3) Did Covington really say Gliebe has been under increasing pressure since Dr. Pierce's death to reveal or at least publicly to discuss the clearly known fact that there was a high level informant in the NA?

4) Did Covington really say that Roper's group, WR is probably next up on the ZOG "hit list"?

5) Does Covington really owe Will Williams 200 grand for a lost libel case?

5) Is there any WN's group or individual that Covington doesn't smear?

Kirk Lyons, the lawyer who helped spirit German Andreas Strassmeir out of the country, the guy with kin at the highest levels of the German puppet state, who was allegedly at Elohim city teaching people to use explosives with other fedgov informants such as Carol Howe? The guy that was reportedly followed by suspicious "survivalists" to a federal building which he entered from a secure entrance? And allegedly looks like "John Doe Number 2?"

Oh boy folks looks like we've got quite a pissing match at hand. Maybe Danny Coulson will start ready VNNF for notes for his next crappy book.

[QUOTE=Anima Eternae]This is completely off topic, but I think David Duke's dad (re?)married an asian woman. I met him long time ago...

Oh, irony...


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Two of GLR's Icelandic children married Mongoloids.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=157450

[QUOTE=Steve B]Well "Bob" since you know the Tub-man personally could you pass along a few questions to him for me?
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Hey Steve, I wonder who this Bob would be if not Covington, seeing as how every other "movement" person with whom Covington has associated, hates his guts! Could it really be possible that there is one guy out there who has known covington since the late 70s who is still, er, "hooked up" with him so to speak? LOL

[QUOTE=Steve B]Well "Bob" since you know the Tub-man personally could you pass along a few questions to him for me? [snip]
[/QUOTE]

I've no idea. But it sounds like you're trying to slide in a few barbs of your own there. [chuckle]

Here "Bob Rudisill" whines about having to care for his elderly kin:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=10997

http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=120129&postcount=15

[quote=Torcher88]I make this post with a basic disposition against censorship on this board. Photon Torpedo didn't seem like HAC to me. But if he was HAC, then he deserves to be banned summarily.

For those who wonder why HAC should be summarily banned, here's something from the memory hole. I have seen HAC's disingenuous tactics on the old WR Yahoo group forum. That board was systematically disrupted by several sock puppets over a period of weeks, until someone noticed that all the pro-HAC posters were originating from the same IP. At that point, HAC took the time to make one last unwelcome plastering of the board.

There have been other examples. Whenever HAC is given a chance to say his piece in a respectful way non-anonymously, he abuses it. Basically Tubby has emotional problems and he isn't going to change. He is a special case that should always be banned, even from VNN.[/quote]

Sounds familiar, huh?

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]Hey Steve, I wonder who this Bob would be if not Covington, seeing as how every other "movement" person with whom Covington has associated, hates his guts! Could it really be possible that there is one guy out there who has known covington since the late 70s who is still, er, "hooked up" with him so to speak? LOL[/QUOTE]

LOL! Eyup! "Bob" isn't Tubby and I can sing the Mongolian national anthem back to front! :D

[QUOTE=Bob Rudisill]

That's it, people. All you VNNers out there who are disturbed by this whole creepy Miller/Linder thing?

:)[/QUOTE]


This reveals the root of all the criticism of Rounder. No offense to Rounder who has worked hard for white people, but I don't think anybody really cares about his personal failings of many years ago. He is not important, or dangerous enough, to warrant all the attention he has been receiving.

All this criticism is designed to destroy a great project (the tabloid) which could give a larger voice to the greatest threat to jewish tyranny in zogusa, Alex Linder. The jews truly fear Alex. There isn't a more brilliant, talented writer today capable of bringing the truth about jews to the white masses. Consequently, we see the hysterical efforts to destroy support for the tabloid in the guise of bashing Rounder.

White Nationalists who are serious about awakening whites to the reality of the jewish agenda to disempower and disappear the White race won't let any of this nonsense deter them from supporting this or any other WN projects.

The jews who rule us are a very flawed people, yet they support each other and their common interests without hesitation. Anyone who tells us we shouldn't support one another and our common interests is doing the work of our ancient enemy, the jews.

you know I read something HAC said about the NA long time ago, about WLP giving the members list to the feds. Said he had proof from the FOIA. Well there is a huge FOIA file on NA available to the public. I will dig out the URL. I read the whole thing, and it says agents fished the membership list out of the trash, a good ways back, early 80s or so. Nothing did I find about WLP giving it to them. I think that is a lie. How would Tubby know, even if he did?

So it is one thing to refer generally to a FOIA and another thing to identify specifically where the "smoking" gun sits. As if the fedgov didnt blackline most of the smoking guns in the first place. LOL

Go ahead Bob, produce the evidence. Scan it into a pdf if you are that clever and put it up right here at this forum if you've got it. Put up or shut up.

Sounds like a load of shit to me.

here's info on foia, since we've mentioned it

http://www.usdoj.gov/oip/foi-act.htm

[QUOTE=Bob Rudisill]God, you're pathetic.

You're drunk now, aren't you?[/QUOTE]




Ok, I have heard enough......if you don't like VNNF or its posters, why do you post here?





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