When I look around, what I see is 80% traitors, people who think that my way of thinking is evil, despicable, and not worth being heard.

How can I love people like that?

How am I supposed to love people who wish to cause me and my family harm?

Am I supposed to love them for electing these giant, tyrannical governments that we have in all of our countries now?

And just why did they elect these in truth Marxist governments? Because they wanted something for free, they gave the government free rule, so that these selfish wretches will not have to worry anymore, because big brother will take care of it all.

As far as I’m concerned I hate your average socialist voting soccer mom more than I hate the ghetto negro she is responsible for bringing in.

I do make the majority responsible for what has happened, for with out them things would have never gotten to where they are.

I love the way the White race used to be, I love the vision of a proud, nationalistic, enlightened White race, but I do not love what we have become in the last 45 years.

As a racialist what am I supped to think, how am I supposed to feel about what has essentially become a society of traitors?

You should listen to Dr William Pierce's broadcast about "lemmings." You dont need to be mad at the average White person. Mostly it is the responsibility of the leadership. White folks are very tractable and socially responsive to the cues that the leadership gives. Jews understand that, and they have coopted the leadership. Read about "the Frankfurt school" and how that was done in the US in the 1930s. Anyhow, if and when we put stronger, better leaders in place who have a sense of race, White people will come around.

But that wont be easy.

Dont wear yourself out with emotions. Just make up your mind what you can best do to help move WN along, such as by ordering some VNN tabloids from Rounder and maybe passing them out, and do it. Meantime, be friendly to the people you come in contact with, love your friends and family, and save hate for the common Enemy of all mankind: _________________.

Well, we were all lemmings at one point. I used to be really anti-racist. Why? Guilt complex. Once I learned I had nothing to be guilty, and that it was morally okay to be proud of my race, I started on the road to WN. Oddly, it was a Japanese I knew that made me start to question ZOG and my anti-racist stance (with more than a little help from VNN and Skrewdriver), but my point is that we're all inherintly racist. Some of us are more hateful about it than others, and some like me, had a really hard time admitting to ourselves that we're racist, because we're big softies. I know the racial situation is extremely disheartening, and it will be EXTREMELY difficult to overcome. But lead, and THEY shall follow. Be a winner, and lead by example. Don't worry about the lemmings, they'll follow. There never was a mass awakening, and there never will be. Just look at Bush. He's a limp-wristed f****t who thinks he's Texan. He creates a strong persona, though, and it works. Thats why he can lie and get thousands of young Americans killed, and people will STILL follow. He creates the illusion he's a strong-willed individual. Just imagine of Bush actually had decent morals and ethics.

EDIT: Ooops, forgot it was the Civil Forum. I took care of it myself. Sorry!

You should listen to Dr William Pierce's broadcast about "lemmings." You dont need to be mad at the average White person. Mostly it is the responsibility of the leadership. White folks are very tractable and socially responsive to the cues that the leadership gives. Jews understand that, and they have coopted the leadership. Read about "the Frankfurt school" and how that was done in the US in the 1930s. Anyhow, if and when we put stronger, better leaders in place who have a sense of race, White people will come around.

But that wont be easy.


I have listened too many of Mr. Pierce’s broadcasts, but I worry things are almost past the point of return, especially in Europe.

Dont wear yourself out with emotions. Just make up your mind what you can best do to help move WN along, such as by ordering some VNN tabloids from Rounder and maybe passing them out, and do it. Meantime, be friendly to the people you come in contact with, love your friends and family, and save hate for the common Enemy of all mankind: _________________.

I know, I know, but it’s damn difficult in the face of all this stupidity.

It really does break my heart when I look at a group of Whites and I know that 80% or more of them are fundamentally against me, and even worse against themselves.

Some days I can handle it, but on others after once more being surprised by what level of filth is being produced I simply fall into disgust, and a heavy dosage of unhealthy hatred.

You should come live in the US for a while. Then you will think Deutschland is Nirvana. Seriously.

Everbody is not a leader. We have a saying here, "too many chiefs and not enough indians" when there is an organization with a lack of coordination. So for effectiveness social units need some people who are docile, herd mentality folks who will take orders and move out. Whites have a high level of natural responsiveness to authority. Some people believe this was evolved during the Ice Ages when community coordination was essential to survival.

Maybe you have too much time and not enough work. I know unemployment is high in Europe and many jobs for young people suck. I have a friend who got offered a job because he speaks English, Italian, and German. The job: answer customer complaints at a calling center for $800 euros a week. UGH.

Maybe if you want a good project, you could print yourself a copy of the VNN Tabloid, and start translating articles into German. I dont know how good your English is, but anytime you hit a bump in the road just come on here and ask, there are many bilingual VNNers.

What do you say to that project? Bitte?

You should come live in the US for a while. Then you will think Deutschland is Nirvana. Seriously.

Actually, I mostly grew up in the US and went to college for a while in Ventura County, CA.

I just recently came back to Europe, and it really disgusts me how negatively it changed in those four years.


Everbody is not a leader. We have a saying here, "too many chiefs and not enough indians".

True words to live by.

Maybe you have too much time and not enough work. I know unemployment is high in Europe and many jobs for young people suck. I have a friend who got offered a job because he speaks English, Italian, and German. The job: answer customer complaints at a calling center for $800 euros a week. UGH.

No problems in that department.

Maybe if you want a good project, you could print yourself a copy of the VNN Tabloid, and start translating articles into German. I dont know how good your English is, but anytime you hit a bump in the road just come on here and ask, there are many bilingual VNNers.

What do you say to that project? Bitte?

If you ever have anything that needs translating just PM me, just please don’t expect me to translate pages upon pages of stuff, I really don’t have that much time.

I thought it would be nice to have a German addition of the tabloid. There is a pdf of it here:

http://www.vnnforum.com/vnntabloidissue1.pdf

If you want to take do something, here's a project. If you dont, that's fine too. Just know that there are plenty of things to do besides comisserate over our fate. There is concern and there is action. Action means not so much glory as hard work to be done climbing a very big mountain. But it starts one foot in front of the other.

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I thought it would be nice to have a German addition of the tabloid. There is a pdf of it here:



http://www.vnnforum.com/vnntabloidissue1.pdf (http://www.vnnforum.com/vnntabloidissue1.pdf)



If you want to take do something, here's a project. If you dont, that's fine too. Just know that there are plenty of things to do besides comisserate over our fate. There is concern and there is action. Action means not so much glory as hard work to be done climbing a very big mountain. But it starts one foot in front of the other.



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Hey, not bad, I’ll read it tonight. Thanks.

Maybe if you want a good project, you could print yourself a copy of the VNN Tabloid, and start translating articles into German. I dont know how good your English is, but anytime you hit a bump in the road just come on here and ask, there are many bilingual VNNers.

I'm not sure this is such a great idea. Correct me if I'm wrong but this guy lives in Germany, rite? Whats gonna happen when Right is Right translates VNN Tabloid into German and then trys to distribute it a country with the most draconian "anti-semitism" laws on the planet?

Don't do it, kid!

When I look around, what I see is 80% traitors, people who think that my way of thinking is evil, despicable, and not worth being heard.

How can I love people like that?

How am I supposed to love people who wish to cause me and my family harm?

Am I supposed to love them for electing these giant, tyrannical governments that we have in all of our countries now?

And just why did they elect these in truth Marxist governments? Because they wanted something for free, they gave the government free rule, so that these selfish wretches will not have to worry anymore, because big brother will take care of it all.

As far as I’m concerned I hate your average socialist voting soccer mom more than I hate the ghetto negro she is responsible for bringing in.

I do make the majority responsible for what has happened, for with out them things would have never gotten to where they are.

I love the way the White race used to be, I love the vision of a proud, nationalistic, enlightened White race, but I do not love what we have become in the last 45 years.

As a racialist what am I supped to think, how am I supposed to feel about what has essentially become a society of traitors?
















I agree with you 100%. I am so tired of, what I see as a worship of so-called negroid culture. Everywhere I go, and even among people I know, all I see is stupid white lemmings trying to dress like blacks, act like blacks, listening to black crap/rap and idolizing ignorant black sports "heroes". And of course, if you say anything negative about their "heroes" you are an "evil racist". And most of them can't even see the hypocrisy in labeling you as a "racist" while at the same time laughing at the jokes of some black comedian who is attempting to make fun of white people. Seeing this stuff day-to-day leaves me with very little hope that anything is ever going to change. I know that is very negative, but that is how I feel. I also do generally find myself disliking these race-traitor type of white people more then I do blacks,mexicans etc, for the simple fact that they are traitors. And yes, a lot of these people are brainwashed, but why are these people so easily manipulated? Why are they so incapable of seeing the truth?

I'm not sure this is such a great idea. Correct me if I'm wrong but this guy lives in Germany, rite? Whats gonna happen when Right is Right translates VNN Tabloid into German and then trys to distribute it a country with the most draconian "anti-semitism" laws on the planet?



Don't do it, kid!



No worries, I know better. The stuff in that tabloid would send me to jail for five years, at least.:(

No worries, I know better. The stuff in that tabloid would send me to jail for five years, at least.:(

maybe for distributing it, not for anonymously translating it and mailing the translation back to the us where we clould have it printed, and then posted on the internet, free for non-English speaking Germans to read. HMM?

See we dont need to go and get pinched smuggling literature like Gary Lauck. Now we have THE INTERNET.

I agree with you 100%. I am so tired of, what I see as a worship of so-called negroid culture. Everywhere I go, and even among people I know, all I see is stupid white lemmings trying to dress like blacks, act like blacks, listening to black crap/rap and idolizing ignorant black sports "heroes".

In Europe, they are starting to act the same, worshiping the negro sports heroes, dressing wiggerish, rap becoming a common music choice amongst the trendy youth.

And of course, if you say anything negative about their "heroes" you are an "evil racist".

It is astounding how brutally hateful some react.

I also do generally find myself disliking these race-traitor type of white people more then I do blacks,mexicans etc, for the simple fact that they are traitors.

Yes, lemming hood alone does not cut it for all people, some are simply traitors.

And yes, a lot of these people are brainwashed, but why are these people so easily manipulated? Why are they so incapable of seeing the truth?

Our culture has been allowed to be fundamentally changed. The ones most responsible were those who were alive during the 1960s, the premier F***ed up, scumbag generation if there ever was one. These selfish, losers, bought the leftist filth with out a question, and those who did not, let them get away with it.

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In Europe, they are starting to act the same, worshiping the negro sports heroes, dressing wiggerish, rap becoming a common music choice amongst the trendy youth.



It is astounding how brutally hateful some react.



Yes, lemming hood alone does not cut it for all people, some are simply traitors.



Our culture has been allowed to be fundamentally changed. The ones most responsible were those who were alive during the 1960s, the premier F***ed up, scumbag generation if there ever was one. These selfish, losers, bought the leftist filth with out a question, and those who did not, let them get away with it.


Hello!

I recently visited Munich, and you, the Germans, have the right to be most angry of all, for your ancestors actually fought the good fight, while ours collaborated with the enemy.

Something about German wiggers seems really sad.

By the way, what was with the lottery guy on TV? It was some manic-hyper host, and people would call in for like .40 eurocents a minute to answer like math questions to win prizes. What the hell was that?

Your cousins in Österreich seem to be faring much better though, saw almost no non-whites, and zero race-mixing there.

Something about German wiggers seems really sad.


That disease is everywhere, You should see the French.

By the way, what was with the lottery guy on TV? It was some manic-hyper host, and people would call in for like .40 eurocents a minute to answer like math questions to win prizes. What the hell was that?

Sorry, I don’t know, haven’t watched German TV in a while.

Your cousins in Österreich seem to be faring much better though, saw almost no non-whites, and zero race-mixing there.

That may be, but they also have their fair share of non-whites. According to what one reads on Stormfront the only place that is still somewhat pristine is Finland.

maybe for distributing it, not for anonymously translating it and mailing the translation back to the us where we clould have it printed, and then posted on the internet, free for non-English speaking Germans to read. HMM?

See we dont need to go and get pinched smuggling literature like Gary Lauck. Now we have THE INTERNET.

Sure, but how could one possibly translate something like the report on the Survivor show (LOL haven’t laughed like that in ages), it just would not sound the same in German.

Sure, but how could one possibly translate something like the report on the Survivor show (LOL haven’t laughed like that in ages), it just would not sound the same in German.


EXCELLENT observation. Some elements of style simply do not translate. However, Linder and Wolzek both have studied the German language if I am not mistaken, and I think that they would be glad to assist in developing stylistically appropriate translations.

VNN-- a collaborative effort.

Maybe you could pick an easy one and post it. If you dont want it traced back to your IP you could drop it into a mailbox for Alex, with a false return address.

Originally Posted by Right is Right

When I look around, what I see is 80% traitors, people who think that my way of thinking is evil, despicable, and not worth being heard.

How can I love people like that?

How am I supposed to love people who wish to cause me and my family harm?

Am I supposed to love them for electing these giant, tyrannical governments that we have in all of our countries now?

And just why did they elect these in truth Marxist governments? Because they wanted something for free, they gave the government free rule, so that these selfish wretches will not have to worry anymore, because big brother will take care of it all.

As far as I’m concerned I hate your average socialist voting soccer mom more than I hate the ghetto negro she is responsible for bringing in.

Don't worry about these people my friend.

They will turn out alright after they have been reprogrammed in the re-education camps. The lists are being compiled as we speak.

After the war and when the White race is divested of the jew, there will be plenty of money to finance and run the ten's-of-thousands of re-education camps in the various western countries.

We estimate a postwar need for the camps to range from 5 to 15 years and after that they will be assimilated into the White public school systems and become part of the primary education buget funds within their respective nations.

brutus

I know how right is right feels about many whites.I mean how many robberies, rapes and murders do these thugs have to commit before these whites will ever wake up? I see so many whites in stores and other places falling all over blacks to ingratitate themselves, it's sickening. I often think if we had a president and entire congress that were made up of other races many whites would be fine with it. That's why you have to be careful speaking to other whites that you don't know very well, they might be on the other side and let you know it right quick. I know cause it's been done to me enough now that I'm careful what I say.


" They have drawn the line in the sand, it's time to stand up and fight....... I say segregation today, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever".
George Wallace

Cheer up, dammit! They're lemmings, they're following like they're supposed to. Don't worry about the lemmings, they will come around. Right now we need to wake up leaders. The lemmings wouldn't know what to do if you shattered their world view right now. They will come around, when the time is right. There never will be a mass uprising. There never has been. Its always been just a few people that change the course of history. The lemmings will follow the winners like they always have. Just gotta be winners. :) And trust me, there are tons and tons of closet racists out there. Anyone ELSE wanna help me out here? Don't tell me I'm the only optimistic one here!! :p

I know how right is right feels about many whites.I mean how many robberies, rapes and murders do these thugs have to commit before these whites will ever wake up? I see so many whites in stores and other places falling all over blacks to ingratitate themselves, it's sickening. I often think if we had a president and entire congress that were made up of other races many whites would be fine with it. That's why you have to be careful speaking to other whites that you don't know very well, they might be on the other side and let you know it right quick. I know cause it's been done to me enough now that I'm careful what I say.


" They have drawn the line in the sand, it's time to stand up and fight....... I say segregation today, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever".
George Wallace

As for the many "closet racists", I don't know if there are truly that many out there. There may be many people who in their heart do not really support the slow degeneration of healthy White Aryan society.
But to me, 'racism' is really about aesthetics. Aryan society is just better - no doubt about it.
That is why I'm starting to think that the term 'closet racist' is becoming an oxymoron. One has to eventually make a conscious decision to be a racialist - this is not really easy to do.

Closet racists are living a lie if you stop to think about it.

I can somewhat understand your frustration and anger at the masses of lemmings. This is understandable. At the end of the day, you have to do what you can to be the best racialist you can be.
I know it's a cliche, but you can't worry about what other people are doing.

But to me, 'racism' is really about aesthetics. Aryan society is just better - no doubt about it.

I think the white's aversion to living amongst blacks is about 50 percent repulsion with Negro aberrant behaviour and the other 50 percent aesthetics.
There are exceptions but blacks are just disturbing to look at. They tend to be a very ugly race.

Closet racists are living a lie if you stop to think about it.

I can somewhat understand your frustration and anger at the masses of lemmings. This is understandable. At the end of the day, you have to do what you can to be the best racialist you can be.
I know it's a cliche, but you can't worry about what other people are doing.

Exactly! Which is why I think anti-racists exist. They know deep down that the races are different. They're convinced its wrong and evil to think that way, however, thanks to you know who. I remember what its like to be an anti. Racism fills you with rage and you don't really know why, just thats its "wrong" somehow. Its called white-guilt, but there is a lot more to it than that. People are naturally racist (not naturally WN. But people know instinctively that different races are different breeds), I think. This is why they can know all our arguments, and STILL be jsut as rabidly anti. They just don't wanna admit it to themselves. They think racists are mindless violent freaks, people they wouldn't want to be associated with.

I don't know. It is a pretty much moot point, anyhow. I agree with your last statement! Don't let the racial situation get ya down. Just do what you can. :cool:

Our culture has been allowed to be fundamentally changed. The ones most responsible were those who were alive during the 1960s, the premier F***ed up, scumbag generation if there ever was one. These selfish, losers, bought the leftist filth with out a question, and those who did not, let them get away with it. [/color]

Whooa there RisR! Save some of that passion for your real enemy! Seems you not only hate White lemmings, but more particularly white Baby Boomers. You know, I'd guess that a very large percentage of WNs come from the ranks of "those who were alive in the Sixties" as you quaintly put it. :o Sure, we were blind to the threat, but do you think that has changed much today? Yes, White Nationalism is beginning to emerge, but the "those who are alive in the 80s, 90, and 00s" are no more aware than baby Boomers were, (which was your original point, wasn't it).

You've obviously got a lot of energy and enthusiasm, and I hope you find a proper focus for it. I like the idea of your being a translator for VNN. Go for it.

Whooa there RisR! Save some of that passion for your real enemy! Seems you not only hate White lemmings, but more particularly white Baby Boomers. You know, I'd guess that a very large percentage of WNs come from the ranks of "those who were alive in the Sixties" as you quaintly put it. Sure, we were blind to the threat, but do you think that has changed much today? Yes, White Nationalism is beginning to emerge, but the "those who are alive in the 80s, 90, and 00s" are no more aware than baby Boomers were, (which was your original point, wasn't it).



You've obviously got a lot of energy and enthusiasm, and I hope you find a proper focus for it. I like the idea of your being a translator for VNN. Go for it.

Certainly, the WWII generation also has a large responsibility for what happened in the 1960s (age of the devil), they after all were fully in charge during that time, but did very little, they were to busy enjoying their prosperity.

They could have stopped a lot of what happened by firing the communist university professors, voting the traitor politicians out of office, and generally expressing mass out rage about how society was developing.

But the main problem with that generation was that they were utter and total state worshipers, what the government said and did was akin of the word and command of god for most of this bunch.

1 - When I look around, what I see is 80% traitors, people who think that my way of thinking is evil, despicable, and not worth being heard.

Am I supposed to love them for electing these giant, tyrannical governments that we have in all of our countries now?

As far as I’m concerned I hate your average socialist voting soccer mom more than I hate the ghetto negro she is responsible for bringing in.

Their values are broken. Therefore, they do stupid things. The ultimate reason is that they are not capable of the decisionmaking process required. In the case of most, this is because they are specialized for something other than making such types of decisions.

In the case of many, it is because they are evolutionarily devolving. All they have to do is make money, not think. Thus these bad values have bred most of the white race into subservient, self-obsessed cowards.

Obviously, the suggestion I have is to work on changing their values to something healthy, as at that point we can begin breeding smarter people again. Perhaps Andrew MacDonald's "Day of the Rope" is more eugenics than punishment.

Certainly, the WWII generation also has a large responsibility for what happened in the 1960s (age of the devil), they after all were fully in charge during that time, but did very little, they were to busy enjoying their prosperity...

You're being way too generous here.

The "greatest generation" created the 60s, destroyed the white family with divorce laws and deindustrialization, marched everywhere zog ordered them to without a moments thought or hesitation, shoved their heads in the sand from Korea through Vietnam despite the clear constitutional illegality of both wars, refused to be loyal to their own children in any way and even allowed zog to REPLACE their children by allowing the immigration laws to be changed in 1965 (long before any boomer was old enough to vote.)

You're going to have to look long and hard to find a generation of traitors as stupid and energetic as the clown act that took over during WWII. They destroyed the white race, folks. Everything else is just mopping up thanks to them.

You're being way too generous here...

...You're going to have to look long and hard to find a generation of traitors as stupid and energetic as the clown act that took over during WWII. They destroyed the white race, folks. Everything else is just mopping up thanks to them.

FranzJoseph, I take it you're a "Boomer" yourself. You know, we shouldn't forget that the generation of our fathers was born, on average, around 1914. Different time, different world then. These were people who mostly didn't even see their fathers until they were 5 years old, because their fathers were at war. These were people who lived on stale bread and lard during the Depression. We, on the other hand, spent our first 5 years being feted and coddled and indulged by fathers, mothers, and extended families, and getting whatever we wanted and needed.

When the post-war prosperity kicked in, it's no wonder that our parents' generation welcomed it with open arms. They felt they deserved it, and rightly so. They had no idea that they were throwing away their childrens' security with both hands. How could they have possibly known? As I asked Right-Is-Right, how many of today's generation are aware of the danger of television, movies, and all the distracting entertainments of today? They just accept it and wallow in it, without a second thought.

I think we should always try to understand our own peoples' actions in light of their situation and circumstances. Let's face it, no White generation ever has managed to detect or eject the jew so far, (well, one generation of one great Nation did, but that's another story). But it does no good to villify our forefathers post mortem. Better to give them credit for what they did do right. It's what you'd expect for yourself, after all.

It's obvious that if one can't see a hazard, one can't avoid it. They simply didn't see it.

You're being way too generous here.

That might be.

[QUOTE]The "greatest generation" created the 60s, destroyed the white family with divorce laws and deindustrialization, marched everywhere zog ordered them to without a moments thought or hesitation, shoved their heads in the sand from Korea through Vietnam despite the clear constitutional illegality of both wars, refused to be loyal to their own children in any way and even allowed zog to REPLACE their children by allowing the immigration laws to be changed in 1965 (long before any boomer was old enough to vote.)

True, I never really thought about that, it was the “greatest generation” that started the immigration ball rolling.

You're going to have to look long and hard to find a generation of traitors as stupid and energetic as the clown act that took over during WWII. They destroyed the white race, folks. Everything else is just mopping up thanks to them.

True, they voted for “jew whore” Roosevelt three times in a row. Got into bed with Uncle Joe and then when the grudge pork was done let Uncle Joe take over those parts of Europe that the war was started over in the first place i.e. Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe, and these idiots thought they won the war, the commies won, no one else.

Got into bed with Uncle Joe and then when the grudge pork was done let Uncle Joe take over those parts of Europe that the war was started over in the first place i.e. Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe, and these idiots thought they won the war, the commies won, no one else.

Our society is construed as tradition versus the utopian influence of liberalism. We will soon see how liberalism as a social construction is a failure.