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Bob Rudisill
10-21-2004, 05:43 PM
Greetings,

I just spent half an hour rooting around in my files, and I confirmed what I was afraid I remembered correctly, that some years ago I tossed all my White Patriot Party news clippings, and I gave away my WPP tabloids and literature to various friends and collectors. The only thing I still have on file that I can lay hands on immediately is Miller's infamous 1987 "Declaration of War" which he mailed me at the time in Fayetteville; I won't bother to quote the ridiculous thing, except that he seems just as intoxicated in that as he does in his VNN posts. I wish now I'd saved that stuff, but jeez Louise, who ever figured Glenn Miller would have the gall to pop up again and try to come back?

So I am laying all this on you folks by way of background, from memory only, but it's accurate memory. I'm not making anything up. That's the weird thing about this whole Glenn Miller episode--you don't NEED to make anything up. The truth is bad enough. The crux here is that nobody seems to be bothered by the truth, which I have to admit freaks me out.

When Glenn was arrested in April of 1987 after his "Declaration of War" and his "revolutionary underground" phase--which consisted of stumbling around the countryside hitting bars at night getting drunk and screaming "I'm Glenn Miller and guns, Gods and guts made this country" and getting thrown out by bouncers--he was in a trailer near Springfield, Missouri along with two other men, Doug Sheets and Robert Eugene "Jack" Jackson. These men were charged with all kinds of gun possession charges and sent to Federal prison, as part of Miller's informer deal. Miller walked right into the Witness Protection Program.

There are a number of questions about exactly how that arrest came about, and indeed about that whole "Declaration of War" interlude, but we'll stick to the main facts.

At some point later on, I can't remember when, Sheets and Jackson were also charged with multiple homicides in relation to an attack on a homosexual book and porno store in Cleveland County, North Carolina in January of...'86, if memory serves. Four faggots were laid out on the floor and shot execution-style. Again if memory serves, there was no robbery, although I may be wrong about that.

The bookstore was reputed to have Mob connections and be a center for homosexual prostitution and blackmail; prominent North Carolinians would come in and get their dick sucked by a male whore and be photographed in the process, and the photos would then be used for blackmail purposes by various lowlifes and the FBI and other Federal law enforcement. Remember, this was in the time of Ron and Ed's House of Sleaze and Ed Meese was Attorney General, and all kinds of weird crap was going on.

The alternate theory of the crimes developed by the defense, but never fully presented at the trial, was that the petty criminals at the store tried blackmailing the wrong people and the killings were a Federally-sanctioned "termination with extreme prejudice." Sheets and Jackson were just the fall guys: convenient "White supremacists" who had no alibis for the time period and were being used to clean up the case and close it. The real killers in this alternate theory were allegedly...well, it is fifteen year-old speculation and I admit, the whole thing is probably way beyond proof now, one way or the other.

The case against Sheets and Jackson was very, very weak. There was no physical evidence of any kind connecting either Doug or Jack to the bookstore slayings, so the prosecutors separated the trials and tried Doug Sheets first, when it turned out that Jack Jackson did in fact have a fairly convincing alibi, witnesses who put him back home in Oklahoma that night. There seems little doubt that Sheets and Jackson were both in fact innocent.

So, who do they come up with in court against Doug? Two snitches. One a NIGGER jailhouse snitch, and the other one FRAZIER GLENN MILLER, who emerged from the Witness Protection Program long enough to get up on the witness stand and try and send his former friend to the gas chamber.

Before Glenn starts yapping about how no one was ever sent to prison on his word, yes, Doug Sheets was acquitted. But not for want of Miller's trying. He was acquitted largely because (A) Southern juries hate faggots, the local people hated that porno store, and thought whoever did it did a good job; and (B) Glenn Miller was such a shady, shifty, palpable liar that they didn't believe a damned word he said. The charges against Jackson were eventually dropped.

But where it gets interesting is in (A) Miller's cross-examination and (B) the pre-trial discovery material relating to the circumstances of Miller's arrest in Missouri and details of the subsequent deal. The discovery is probably sealed in some lawyers's office and beyond the reach of anyone in the Movement, but if someone wants to take the time to go to the courthouse in Shelby, North Carolina and track down a transcript of the Doug Sheets trial and the original newspaper coverage, it should make very interesting reading. You might also try researching the files of the Charlotte Observer. The trial date was April-May of 1989, maybe on into June as well, I can't recall exactly.

If anyone ELSE wants to do it, that is. I would suggest that we not believe anything Miller presents as an alleged "transcript"; he has a vested interest in certain details not coming out.

Kirk Lyons was second chair at the defense table and Harold Covington assisted Lyons and the defense lawyer in various ways, and I am sure now that I think about it that Harold mentioned to me long ago that some of the material in the defense discovery file on Miller was really raunchy and eye-popping. I intend to ask him about it tonight. I think now we know why the very mention of Covington's name sends Glenn Miller into screaming hysterics.

-Bob

Steve B
10-21-2004, 06:11 PM
[QUOTE=Bob Rudisill]Greetings,

I just spent half an hour rooting around in my files, and I confirmed what I was afraid I remembered correctly, that some years ago I tossed all my White Patriot Party news clippings, and I gave away my WPP tabloids and literature to various friends and collectors. The only thing I still have on file that I can lay hands on immediately is Miller's infamous 1987 "Declaration of War" which he mailed me at the time in Fayetteville; I won't bother to quote the ridiculous thing, except that he seems just as intoxicated in that as he does in his VNN posts. I wish now I'd saved that stuff, but jeez Louise, who ever figured Glenn Miller would have the gall to pop up again and try to come back?

So I am laying all this on you folks by way of background, from memory only, but it's accurate memory. I'm not making anything up. That's the weird thing about this whole Glenn Miller episode--you don't NEED to make anything up. The truth is bad enough. The crux here is that nobody seems to be bothered by the truth, which I have to admit freaks me out.

When Glenn was arrested in April of 1987 after his "Declaration of War" and his "revolutionary underground" phase--which consisted of stumbling around the countryside hitting bars at night getting drunk and screaming "I'm Glenn Miller and guns, Gods and guts made this country" and getting thrown out by bouncers--he was in a trailer near Springfield, Missouri along with two other men, Doug Sheets and Robert Eugene "Jack" Jackson. These men were charged with all kinds of gun possession charges and sent to Federal prison, as part of Miller's informer deal. Miller walked right into the Witness Protection Program.

There are a number of questions about exactly how that arrest came about, and indeed about that whole "Declaration of War" interlude, but we'll stick to the main facts.

At some point later on, I can't remember when, Sheets and Jackson were also charged with multiple homicides in relation to an attack on a homosexual book and porno store in Cleveland County, North Carolina in January of...'86, if memory serves. Four faggots were laid out on the floor and shot execution-style. Again if memory serves, there was no robbery, although I may be wrong about that.

The bookstore was reputed to have Mob connections and be a center for homosexual prostitution and blackmail; prominent North Carolinians would come in and get their dick sucked by a male whore and be photographed in the process, and the photos would then be used for blackmail purposes by various lowlifes and the FBI and other Federal law enforcement. Remember, this was in the time of Ron and Ed's House of Sleaze and Ed Meese was Attorney General, and all kinds of weird crap was going on.

The alternate theory of the crimes developed by the defense, but never fully presented at the trial, was that the petty criminals at the store tried blackmailing the wrong people and the killings were a Federally-sanctioned "termination with extreme prejudice." Sheets and Jackson were just the fall guys: convenient "White supremacists" who had no alibis for the time period and were being used to clean up the case and close it. The real killers in this alternate theory were allegedly...well, it is fifteen year-old speculation and I admit, the whole thing is probably way beyond proof now, one way or the other.

The case against Sheets and Jackson was very, very weak. There was no physical evidence of any kind connecting either Doug or Jack to the bookstore slayings, so the prosecutors separated the trials and tried Doug Sheets first, when it turned out that Jack Jackson did in fact have a fairly convincing alibi, witnesses who put him back home in Oklahoma that night. There seems little doubt that Sheets and Jackson were both in fact innocent.

So, who do they come up with in court against Doug? Two snitches. One a NIGGER jailhouse snitch, and the other one FRAZIER GLENN MILLER, who emerged from the Witness Protection Program long enough to get up on the witness stand and try and send his former friend to the gas chamber.

Before Glenn starts yapping about how no one was ever sent to prison on his word, yes, Doug Sheets was acquitted. But not for want of Miller's trying. He was acquitted largely because (A) Southern juries hate faggots, the local people hated that porno store, and thought whoever did it did a good job; and (B) Glenn Miller was such a shady, shifty, palpable liar that they didn't believe a damned word he said. The charges against Jackson were eventually dropped.

But where it gets interesting is in (A) Miller's cross-examination and (B) the pre-trial discovery material relating to the circumstances of Miller's arrest in Missouri and details of the subsequent deal. The discovery is probably sealed in some lawyers's office and beyond the reach of anyone in the Movement, but if someone wants to take the time to go to the courthouse in Shelby, North Carolina and track down a transcript of the Doug Sheets trial and the original newspaper coverage, it should make very interesting reading. You might also try researching the files of the Charlotte Observer. The trial date was April-May of 1989, maybe on into June as well, I can't recall exactly.

If anyone ELSE wants to do it, that is. I would suggest that we not believe anything Miller presents as an alleged "transcript"; he has a vested interest in certain details not coming out.

Kirk Lyons was second chair at the defense table and Harold Covington assisted Lyons and the defense lawyer in various ways, and I am sure now that I think about it that Harold mentioned to me long ago that some of the material in the defense discovery file on Miller was really raunchy and eye-popping. I intend to ask him about it tonight. I think now we know why the very mention of Covington's name sends Glenn Miller into screaming hysterics.

-Bob[/QUOTE]

Translation: You don't have jackshit on Miller other than your so-called "memory"!

Antiochus Epiphanes
10-21-2004, 06:43 PM
OK, "Bob," go ahead and tell us who "really" capped the faggots store owners. Was that Miller too? LOL

Two more questions "Bob," who was first chair lawyer in that case?

Second, if you are not Harold Covington, why are you carrying water for him? He sounds like he's dicktating this to you right over your shoulder.

Just curious as to your reply.

Todd in FL
10-21-2004, 07:19 PM
[QUOTE=Bob Rudisill] But where it gets interesting is in (A) Miller's cross-examination and (B) the pre-trial discovery material relating to the circumstances of Miller's arrest in Missouri and details of the subsequent deal. The discovery is probably sealed in some lawyers's office and beyond the reach of anyone in the Movement, but if someone wants to take the time to go to the courthouse in Shelby, North Carolina and track down a transcript of the Doug Sheets trial and the original newspaper coverage, it should make very interesting reading. You might also try researching the files of the Charlotte Observer. The trial date was April-May of 1989, maybe on into June as well, I can't recall exactly.

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"Discovery" is the sole invention of the prosecutor. In pre trial the prosecutor tries to make up as much shit as possible in order to scare the defendant into testifying. Most is half truths and much is pure lying by investigators or the prosecutor. The prosecutor tries to throw as much shit as possible on the wall... some sticks... some doesn't. The pre trial "news clippings" are just the jew news media reporting what the prosecutor made up... reporting it as factual.

The reason "discovery" never makes it to trial is because most is bs and the judge knows it and won't allow it in a courtroom during trial because it takes up too much time.

If you are trying to slam Miller you need to be specific and not so vague. If you think his arrest is so interesting why don't you tell us about those "cicumstances" yourself instead of sending us on a wild goose chase?

Todd in FL
10-21-2004, 07:25 PM
[QUOTE=Rounder] And please remember that during 8 months of questioning about my association with The Order, I have even once be proven to lie about anything I said about it. [/QUOTE]


Just a question...

Don't you mean "I have never once been proven to lie...."

Rounder you gotta stop posting so much. :D Feeding the trolls causes grammar dislexyia. ;)

Glowbox Opus
10-24-2004, 01:13 PM
Just logged in to find some private messages waiting from rudisil about one of hac's favorite assumed personalities h. markwalder... thanks but no thanks.

Here is an email I got last year with some recent personal notes about hac:

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:48:01 -0000
Subject: Employers down in Texas...


Mary McDonald, Harold's "team manager" on the job down in Texas was
able to report that his behavior is somewhat erratic and wasn't
shocked to hear that his family was concerned about his well-being.

Most recent phone number she had on file for him?

Bryan / College Park, Texas (XXX) XXX-XXXX

Your curator, Sam Armstead, hasn't verified whether the number is
still in service or belongs to the same subscriber as it did when
Harold filled out his employment papers a couple of years ago, but it
most certainly WAS a good number for him and anyone so disposed to
investigate further might find that his trail is still warm around
there.

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and this profile is still on the web at an anti site:

PUBLISHER OF THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST (NS) NET,

Harold A. Covington
P.O. Box 550
Texarkana, TX 75504
US
Domain Name: HAROLD-COVINGTON.ORG
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
Covington, Harold (HCN349) Nordicist@HOTMAIL.COM
P.O. Box 550
Texarkana , TX 75504
903-792-0912

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Fact is, there is no immediate hint at his actual whereabouts in <wa which rather seem to contribute to the suspicion that he is still in tx... white will might want to look into this stuff... dated by a couple of years perhaps, but if legit at least points to some employment and might give a shot at docking his pay for that judgement against him.

Harold Armstead Covington, soc.sec.# XXX-XX-XXXX

Astarte
10-24-2004, 05:53 PM
I live in Shelby, North Carolina. I am too young to recall anything about this but have heard people talk about it around here. I guess I could go to the court house.