Jesus was not a jew.........he was the product of a divine immaculate conception.

The conception was of a devine ovum and divine seed and of no human particulates, pure and uncorrupted of original sin.

God chose a jewish family to come to earth incarnate and Mary was merely the vessel. No genetic part of Mary or Joseph comprised the body of Jesus.

Jesus took on the trappings of a jewish family because he was raised in one, but he was not a biological jew. His sermons explained that he was not jewish and the Disciples’ Books repeat this message.

The jew wants us to believe that Jesus was a jew so they could claim him for themselves. This helps them “claim the moral high ground”, just as their phony claim to being the chosen people puts them above criticism.

But in reality the jew hates Jesus. The jew has always hated Jesus, that’s why they killed him. The jew is the spawn of Satan and the Bible calls them Pharisees. And this is why the jews went crazy over Mel Gibson’s movie, The Passion. They do not want people to know the real story of the crucifixion and that they are the anti-Christ.

Early Christians knew the evil nature of the jew from the very beginning. From when they killed Jesus right-up until the jew took over the media of the western world in the last century around 1950.

Modern Christians have been following a jewish bastardization version of Christianity.

This new Christian insanity and anti-White sentiment is what we, White Nationals, recognize as the evil jewish influence cast over most modern Christians.

The Bible prophesized in Revelations Chapter 2 the fate of the Seven Christian Churches of Asia and how the jews would destroy them.

And it describes the jews in Rev 2:12-13, “them that hold the doctrine of Balaam (Satan worship) who taught Balak to cast a stumblingblock before the children of israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols (kosher-foods), and to commit fornication.” (sex perverts)

FYI

PROTOCOL No. 14
1. When we come into our kingdom it will be undesirable for us that there should exist any other religion than ours of the One God with whom our destiny is bound up by our position as the Chosen People and through whom our same destiny is united with the destinies of the world. We must therefore sweep away all other forms of belief. If this gives birth to the atheists whom we see to-day, it will not, being only a transitional stage, interfere with our views, but will serve as a warning for those generations which will hearken to our preaching of the religion of Moses, that, by its stable and thoroughly elaborated system has brought all the peoples of the world into subjection to us. Therein we shall emphasize its mystical right, on which, as we shall say, all its educative power is based .... Then at every possible opportunity we shall publish articles in which we shall make comparisons between our beneficent rule and those of past ages. The blessing of tranquility, though it be a tranquility forcibly brought about by centuries of agitation, will throw into higher relief the benefits to which we shall point. The errors of the GOYIM governments will be depicted by us in the most vivid hues. We shall implant such an abhorrence of them that the peoples will prefer tranquility in a state of serfdom to those rights of vaunted freedom which have tortured humanity and exhausted the very sources of human existence, sources which have been exploited by a mob of rascally adventurers who know not what they do .... USELESS CHANGES OF FORMS OF GOVERNMENT TO WHICH WE INSTIGATED THE "GOYIM" WHEN WE WERE UNDERMINING THEIR STATE STRUCTURES, WILL HAVE SO WEARIED THE PEOPLES BY THAT TIME THAT THEY WILL PREFER TO SUFFER ANYTHING UNDER US RATHER THAN RUN THE RISK OF ENDURING AGAIN ALL THE AGITATIONS AND MISERIES THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH.

WE SHALL FORBID CHRIST

2. At the same time we shall not omit to emphasize the historical mistakes of the GOY governments which have tormented humanity for so many centuries by their lack of understanding of everything that constitutes the true good of humanity in their chase after fantastic schemes of social blessings, and have never noticed that these schemes kept on producing a worse and never a better state of the universal relations which are the basis of human life ....

3. The whole force of our principles and methods will lie in the fact that we shall present them and expound them as a splendid contrast to the dead and decomposed old order of things in social life.

4. Our philosophers will discuss all the shortcomings of the various beliefs of the "GOYIM," BUT NO ONE WILL EVER BRING UNDER DISCUSSION OUR FAITH FROM ITS TRUE POINT OF VIEW SINCE THIS WILL BE FULLY LEARNED BY NONE SAVE OURS WHO WILL NEVER DARE TO BETRAY ITS SECRETS.

5. IN COUNTRIES KNOWN AS PROGRESSIVE AND ENLIGHTENED WE HAVE CREATED A SENSELESS, FILTHY, ABOMINABLE LITERATURE. For some time after our entrance to power we shall continue to encourage its existence in order to provide a telling relief by contrast to the speeches, party program, which will be distributed from exalted quarters of ours .... Our wise men, trained to become leaders of the GOYIM, will compose speeches, projects, memoirs, articles, which will be used by us to influence the minds of the GOYIM, directing them towards such understanding and forms of knowledge as have been determined by us.

Jesus was not a jew.........he was the product of a divine immaculate conception.

The conception was of a devine ovum and divine seed and of no human particulates, pure and uncorrupted of original sin.


Humans cannot be created without human male sperm and human female eggs. Whence does this "holy DNA" come from?

Science and religion are like oil and water.




...

RE: Anima Eternae

If a woman were to have another woman’s fertilized egg implanted within her womb, she would bear a child who is different from herself, genetically.

The Bible explains this same type of event, in simplistic language, called the immaculate conception.

If one were to believe that the Creator of the universe wanted to walk among his creation as one of them, this seems like a very plausible way to do it.

If the Creator used the laws of physics to make the universe, whipping-up an ovum and sperm in a divine petre dish and implanting it within a peasant girl named Mary, shouldn't be too difficult a task, relatively speaking.

Maybe he was just the creator of “our universe”.

Anyone with the capacity to “create a universe” is entitled to the distinction of being called “divine“, don’t you think?

I've got some questions for a god who can create divine sperm and egg, yet allows jews to exert influence. And I haven't even mentioned coons.

I am not bothered about religion as ptaying will not save the white race.

Mohammed was a jew :eek:

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] Christ-kill-me, here we go again, another load of xtian crap. Why is it that these fucking loony xtians cannot restrain themselves here and instead continue to try to poison this forum with their goddamned christinsanity? Why? Why can't you take your blathering bullshit out to the lemming masses [/SIZE][/QUOTE]



If this is another load of "xtian crap" as you say, why did you feel the need to read it? It seems to me you are the one trying to poison the forum with attacks such as these.

The only thing I'll give to Jesus is that he was the first Christian and therefore a symbol of rebellion from the jews/hebes/whatever rule.

Christians are like bums staggering around in tattered old 1970's polyester lesiure suits in 2004 america.

It aint coming back in style.

The sun has dipped below the horizon on the rebranded form of judaism.

Thank gawd.

Whites pretending to be jews by another name is just sick.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2]This has to be the most asinine question I've ever encountered on this forum: "...why did you feel the need to read it?", and , not surprisingly, the question came from another loony xtian. Silly xtian girl, I didn't "feel the need to read it" as you say, I read a very large proportion of what people post on VNNF for many reasons and because that's what a forum is for: a forum is a discussion of ideas put forward by a variety of individuals. People post things here for other people to read and discuss, i.e., make responses to. People who post here know damn well that nobody else "feels a need to read" what they wrote, on the contrary, people like Brutus post here because they ACTUALLY WANT OTHERS TO READ WHAT THEY POSTED! Nobody is forcing me to read anything here, I read things because, like a real White man, I'm naturally curious and I'm always on the lookout for Pearls of Wisdom, a concept that you xtians obviously don't need, because for you, the Bible says everything that ever needs be said, forever and ever. The Bible says it and that's good enough for you, hahahahaha. Christ, what imbeciles! Are you really that stupid that you don't know the purpose of a forum like this? I will assume you weren't born stupid but I seriously believe your so-called xtian religion has enstupidated you. Stupid is as stupid does. Don't you even know what comes out of your mouth and is posted here is so stupid? If not, then christinsanity is the perfect religion for idiots like you. BTW, I have read quite a few posts by Brutus, and I used to think he was sane, but after reading this post, I've changed my mind. He is as asinine as your question. Christ-kill-me, you xtians are a fucking stupid lot. Well, at least you've got each other to wallow in your stupid misery together, after all, misery loves company, don't it? I'm actually thankful that you ask such stupid questions, as it shows, perhaps better than anything else, how christinsanity enstupidates otherwise sane folk. Thanks again!! Keep up the stupidity. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]


Maybe I am just paranoid, but every time I read a post that is so filled with hatred for christians I automatically think about Jews.

I was born/raised Roman Catholic....Am I reglious? No. Am I practicisng? HARDLY!

I think religion in general is tool used for societal control in devious ways. It is sick to go to hell for being human, for one example. Ugh....I don't even want to get worked up on this one. :o

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] Yeah well, when I think about idiots like you, I think about what Colonel Kurtz said to that actor Sheen in Apocalypse Now: When asked by Kurtz who and what Sheen was, Sheen said he was a U.S. soldier, but Kurtz replied that Sheen was no soldier, that he was, in fact, little more than an errand clerk, sent to collect on a bill. In my life, I will say that stupid xtians have caused me more DIRECT harm than the slimy jews. At least the jews place a high regard on being educated, unlike the xtians, who seem to feel that their Bible is all anybody ever needs to read. I pity you fucking imbeciles, and I will spare no mercy if any of you ever cross my path, you are the scourge of the White Race. May your bodies rot along with your closed, rotting minds. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]


That is the problem with people like you. There is something seriously wrong if you dislike white christians more then you dislike Jews. I do not feel a need to even continue this conversation, Colonel Goldberg.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] I will say that stupid xtians have caused me more DIRECT harm than the slimy jews.


WWWWWWWAAAAAAAA those mean old Christians are picking on me again. Nothing I do can stop them. They beat me up they hurt me and they just plain pick on me. Now a girl is picking me on what’s next? I am so weak and defenseless and can’t defend myself against those valiant and brutal Christians.

Now when my arch nemeses SDM replies to this I will follow him around the forum crying about those Christians. WWWWWAAAAAA. Somebody stop them please.
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The Mighty Col Klutz

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] Christ-kill-me, here we go again, another load of xtian crap. Why is it that these fucking loony xtians cannot restrain themselves here and instead continue to try to poison this forum with their goddamned christinsanity? Why? Why can't you take your blathering bullshit out to the lemming masses who are stupid enough to believe this unmitigated shit?
Here's a question for you:
If your almighty god is so powerful, why would he even bother to go through all the trouble of creating a human-but-divine son only to get crucified later just so he could preach about his great dad? Why doesn't your omnipotent god just somehow punish those who don't believe in "HIM"? For instance, your god could just zap a few non-believers with lightning bolts, and that would be quite enough for everyone else to begin believing in "Him", wouldn't it? Christ-kill-me, don't you fucking xtian idiots see the insanity of your beliefs? What's it going to take for you morons to wake up and smell the fantasy you've created for yourselves? [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Christ was a Jew, just another semite! His mother was a Semite, his father was probably some hooked nose sand kicking semite or a randy Roman who wanted to fuck a jew bitch for an extra kick!

Either way Jesus was born a semite jewboy and died a semite (a none white) all the rest is just shit made up by the hook noses. How many Aryan heros are their in the Bible and how many Semite heros?

Hitler and Jesus are the same.

http://www.jesusishitler.com/images/jesus1.jpg

http://www.jesusishitler.com/images/crosstika1.gif

Col. K, it looks like your reputation is shot here. Hitler goddess seems to strongly insinuate that you are a jewish person. Why else would you be so mean to poor simple christians?

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Originally Posted by Colonel.Kurtz
[size=2]Yeah well, when I think about idiots like you, I think about what Colonel Kurtz said to that actor Sheen in Apocalypse Now: When asked by Kurtz who and what Sheen was, Sheen said he was a U.S. soldier, but Kurtz replied that Sheen was no soldier, that he was, in fact, little more than an errand clerk, sent to collect on a bill. In my life, I will say that stupid xtians have caused me more DIRECT harm than the slimy jews. At least the jews place a high regard on being educated, unlike the xtians, who seem to feel that their Bible is all anybody ever needs to read. I pity you fucking imbeciles, and I will spare no mercy if any of you ever cross my path, you are the scourge of the White Race. May your bodies rot along with your closed, rotting minds. [/size]



Originally Posted by hitler goddess
Maybe I am just paranoid, but everytime I read a post that is so filled with hatred for christians I automatically think about Jews.





That is the problem with people like you. There is something seriously wrong if you dislike white christians more then you dislike Jews. I do not feel a need to even continue this conversation, Colonel Goldberg.

He is either a Jew or he has some deep psychological problems, or he likes to "play" on the internet I am not sure which is correct.

I try to stay out of religious issues, as much as I can. But I am just disturbed by comments like this:


[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] I will spare no mercy if any of you ever cross my path, you are the scourge of the White Race. May your bodies rot along with your closed, rotting minds. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]


Have you ever expressed this much dislike for Jews, Colonel? Probably not.

[QUOTE=hitler goddess]He is either a Jew or he has some deep psychological problems, or he likes to "play" on the internet I am not sure which is correct.

I try to stay out of religious issues, as much as I can. But I am just disturbed by comments like this:





Have you ever expressed this much dislike for Jews, Colonel? Probably not.[/QUOTE]

Colonel Cartoon is just another example of the types that gravitate to the political extremes, superfluous of the ideological stance. For every sane, balanced person here, e.g., AE, Doppel, Momus, you have 3 loonies or children, e.g., Kurtz, Dr. Antichrist, etc. I doubt he's a kike, though I, too, am leary of anyone who has a need to attack the faith of Whites for the last 2000 years with more vehemence than our racial enemies. With rare exception, the Christians here don't resort to such gutter-like tactics against non-Christians. I'd venture to say it's more a matter of class than religion - some folks have it, others don't.

Originally Posted by Colonel.Kurtz
In my life, I will say that stupid xtians have caused me more DIRECT harm than the slimy jews. At least the jews place a high regard on being educated, unlike the xtians, who seem to feel that their Bible is all anybody ever needs to read.

Nice defense of the Jew, Kurtz. I must have imagined all of the Christian-inspired tracts I've read throughout my life. You've no empiracal data to substantiate such a ludicrous claim. God, in your insane universe, you'd eliminate Christian statesman-warriors like Franco, Verwoerd, Salazar, Pinochet of the last century.

I pity you fucking imbeciles, and I will spare no mercy if any of you ever cross my path, you are the scourge of the White Race. May your bodies rot along with your closed, rotting minds.

Well, I imagine you meet these imbeciles daily, so why the need for all the vitriolic spittle? That is, you must cross the path of White Christians daily - indeed, it would be impossible not to - so where are the stories of you "sparing no mercy" on us all, you poor, impotent fool?

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz]Quote:


[SIZE=2] Bullshit, you're so simple-minded, you don't even realize this bald-faced lie! If you really tried to stay out of religious issues, why did you chime in with your idiot two cents on this religious thread started by Brutus? Are you really that stupid? [/SIZE]

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I was just saying that I do, most of the time, try to stay out of religious issues. Anyone who has read my posts should be able to see this. I liked the original topic of the thread and Brutus's post, but then, as usual, the attacks on Christianity had to begin. And I just get a little annoyed with it at times. There are always a lot of in-fighting on here, nord-med, bullshit, etc. and lots of flame wars, that I admit to taking part in at times. But the anti-Christian stuff is some of the worst, and very counter-productive.

As to the direct harm part, I've been treated worse for not being a christian, than I have for not being a jew. He no way has implied we should discount the achievements of Whites who happened to be christians. Merely that we should see the error in their choice of beliefs. Many brave men died in WWII, shooting the wrong way. That they were brave cannot be denied. But they were wrong.
Continuing to believe in something that is wrong is doubly harmful as it prevents investigation of what is real.

Originally Posted by Colonel.Kurtz
Oh yeah, I see that your sane and balanced Doppel has gathered his marbles and has left the playpen, I guess he couldn't take the heat here, hahahaha. Christ-kill-me, if folks like Doppel can't take the heat in here, just imagine how they'll wilt when the SHTF for real!! As regards your observation regarding xtianity as the faith of Whites, we all know how brutal the xtians were in wiping out anything other than their semitic ideas. Plus, I'd venture to add that the current majority of Whites only embrace xtianity because mommy and daddy and grandmommy and grandaddy did, hahahaha. Your precious xtianity, like smoking cigarrettes, is a dying habit, hahahaha. Oh, and spare me with your crying about "gutter-like tactics". Anyone stupid enough to believe in the sorry jewsus fairy tales deserves no mercy.... (more Jew-like blather).


What is this? A response perhaps, or do you really enjoy rattling off your precious little polemic that no one gives a shit about? You offer nothing but low-brow insults that only suit a small minority of your similar-minded dysgenic compatriots. You, by your marginalizing our of cultural history, epitomize why there isn't any viable amount of racially conscious Whites today.

Do continue, however, as I'm sure your double-digited pals enjoy your Jewsus cigarette analogies. Yuck, yuck...

Originally Posted by Colonel.Kurtz
Come now, Interrupted, don't take your precious lord's name in vain, hahahahaha. Oh I'm sure you've read plenty of jew/xtian crap in your pitiful life, but I've actually lived and experienced the things of which I speak. In my various businesses over the years, I've hired and fired plenty of jews, xtians and jigs, so please spare me of things you may have read in jew-published books.
And your pitiful comment about last century's xtians; how exactly shall I travel back into time and affect them? You have to admit, that was quite a stretch, don't ya' think?

You're a funny one, Kurtz, that you are. What constitutes "jew/xtian crap" exactly, Kurtz? Western history written by Christian Whites, or does it have to deal specifically with Christian tomes?

As far as my comments regarding Christian patriots, well, apparently, I've not taken into account your mind never progressed after the age of eleven. Deeply sorry, old chum. How's this: The men I mentioned were stanch Christians, admired by more than a few on this forum regardless of their faith; so I, as examplified by your putrid vernacular against their faith, would assume you'd hold them in disdain, as well. Correct?

Sorry, I don't "meet" xtian imbeciles daily. Today, for instance, I haven't had any contact whatsoever with any xtians. Why do you pose such easily refuted claims, are you really that stupid? As regards my statement about crossing paths: if you did not already know, that phrase is synonymous with someone "crossing you", meaning that someone takes the initiative to irritate you or to "get in your face". It doesn't mean that someone literally, physically crosses my path before me, are you really that stupid? Where do you fucking idiots come from, anyway? When you say ' "sparing no mercy" on us all', I'll take that to mean that you count yourself as a white xtian (lower case, of course). This I believe, as your stupidity level matches that of the other two christlings chiming in on this thread. Don't you have better things to do, like reading some more of your precious bible or fantasizing about being crucified like your precious jew-on-a-stick? And to think that the symbol of your worm-religion is a Roman torture device, hahahahaha, now that's the real joke, ain't it ?

This should be saved and framed, Kurtz. I sure it would look splendid upon your mantle. I've got to hand it to you, you're a class act: from the lowest socio-economically, morally envisioned one imaginable, of course.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=138420#post138420

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Christ-kill-me, here we go again, another load of xtian crap.[/QUOTE]

From the Gospel of John:

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
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Ok, Colonel.Katz, after reading the above, please explain how Jesus could possibly have been a jew? After rendering even a cursory contemplation of the above Scriptural Excerpts, one can only divine (pun intended) that He didn't hold the juden in very high reverence.

So if Y'Shua Himself was a jew, how then would you explain His description of the juden as being pure evil? Was He perhaps suffering from a paucity of self-esteem? Quite possibly He would have benefited from a few sessions of positive affirmation with Stewart Smalley ("I'm smart enough, I'm good enough, and doggone it, people like me.")? :rolleyes:

Use your head, Katz, and I don't mean the frothy one which drips out of your breakfast keg tap like the 16 which preceeded it this morning: Jesus was NOT a jew! ;)

Bleh. This is stupid bullshit. Atheists are just as fucking zealous as hardcore Christians, and just as self-righteous and close-minded. Kurtz, you're a real smug bastard.

Originally Posted by AJ Balfour
Use your head, Katz, and I don't mean the frothy one which drips out of your breakfast keg tap like the 16 which preceeded it this morning: Jesus was NOT a jew!

Rather funny there, AJB, I must admit. My money, however, is on the Maneshivitz version. As I can't see Colonel Katzembaum drinking a non-Kosher Guinness in the morn'. I can almost imagine the bottles clinking together as he lets out more hatred against Whites. That is, to lament the fact he wasn't able to participate with his Marxist brethren in our persecution in the ispravitel'no-trudovaya koloniyas.

One lesson learned here: there can't be any form of rational discussion with this piece of human flotsam.

The world would be a better place if even 1% of Christians believed that Christ was not a Jew/that race mixing is evil/that the White race is chosen race etc. etc. But sadly, Christians love thy jewish neighbors, worship at the house of Zion and sing the praises of diversity. Thats the reality Whites have to deal with - at this point in time Christianity is poison to our race and tonic to our enemies and all the bible stories in the world aren't going to change that fact.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] You know what's really funny, old scum? Your avatar is about as ridiculously funny as it gets. Why don't you tell the good Folk here at VNNF just which Bolsheviks you've hunted down lately. I can just imagine you telling the average Joe on the street that you hunt down Bolsheviks, heh-heh, and I can just imagine Joe's mind going back to 1917 and wondering what the fuck you're talking about. As to your asinine comment about alleged "marxist brethren...", I've nothing to fear from your loony musings, as, unlike you pussyboy, I've actually marched in the mean streets alongside proven White fighters like White Will, Ron Doggett, Billy Roper, Byron Calvert, Fred Streed, Chester Doles, etc, etc, etc. You're the nothing-nobody here, silly xtian boy, hahahahaha. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]


Golly, I've got your dander up. Ahh, how fuckin' special is that? Keep typing, Colonel Inbred, as you're nothing in anyone's eyes except your own glazed pair. Talk about avatars & monikers.... *lol * Is that really you, Colonel Dipshit.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] Ahh, you're not fun anymore, I'm tired of playing with you. It's the same old, same old. I wish you'd talk more about your precious jewsus and liven things up a bit. Whenever I hear about your jewsus this and your god that, at least there's some tragicomedy in the air! You know, something to bite into and chew a bit. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Alas, you are the victor, Colonel Kurtz. Please do show mercy on the vanquished, though. I should have known better not to match wits with a man of your stature. How could I possibly compete with the likes of such rhetorical & original gems as: jewsus.... hahahahaha.....kike-on-stick......hahahahaha....christlings......hahahahaha...goyboy...

You, obviously, are a modern Tacitus. Now, akin to an 88mm going through a T-34 like butter, I've learned why no one dares to exchange barbs with such a mental giant. :(

[QUOTE=brutus]Jesus was not a jew.........he was the product of a divine immaculate conception.

The conception was of a devine ovum and divine seed and of no human particulates, pure and uncorrupted of original sin.

God chose a jewish family to come to earth incarnate and Mary was merely the vessel. No genetic part of Mary or Joseph comprised the body of Jesus.

Jesus took on the trappings of a jewish family because he was raised in one, but he was not a biological jew. His sermons explained that he was not jewish and the Disciples’ Books repeat this message.

The jew wants us to believe that Jesus was a jew so they could claim him for themselves. This helps them “claim the moral high ground”, just as their phony claim to being the chosen people puts them above criticism.

But in reality the jew hates Jesus. The jew has always hated Jesus, that’s why they killed him. The jew is the spawn of Satan and the Bible calls them Pharisees. And this is why the jews went crazy over Mel Gibson’s movie, The Passion. They do not want people to know the real story of the crucifixion and that they are the anti-Christ.

Early Christians knew the evil nature of the jew from the very beginning. From when they killed Jesus right-up until the jew took over the media of the western world in the last century around 1950.

Modern Christians have been following a jewish bastardization version of Christianity.

This new Christian insanity and anti-White sentiment is what we, White Nationals, recognize as the evil jewish influence cast over most modern Christians.

The Bible prophesized in Revelations Chapter 2 the fate of the Seven Christian Churches of Asia and how the jews would destroy them.

And it describes the jews in Rev 2:12-13, “them that hold the doctrine of Balaam (Satan worship) who taught Balak to cast a stumblingblock before the children of israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols (kosher-foods), and to commit fornication.” (sex perverts)

FYI

PROTOCOL No. 14
1. When we come into our kingdom it will be undesirable for us that there should exist any other religion than ours of the One God with whom our destiny is bound up by our position as the Chosen People and through whom our same destiny is united with the destinies of the world. We must therefore sweep away all other forms of belief. If this gives birth to the atheists whom we see to-day, it will not, being only a transitional stage, interfere with our views, but will serve as a warning for those generations which will hearken to our preaching of the religion of Moses, that, by its stable and thoroughly elaborated system has brought all the peoples of the world into subjection to us. Therein we shall emphasize its mystical right, on which, as we shall say, all its educative power is based .... Then at every possible opportunity we shall publish articles in which we shall make comparisons between our beneficent rule and those of past ages. The blessing of tranquility, though it be a tranquility forcibly brought about by centuries of agitation, will throw into higher relief the benefits to which we shall point. The errors of the GOYIM governments will be depicted by us in the most vivid hues. We shall implant such an abhorrence of them that the peoples will prefer tranquility in a state of serfdom to those rights of vaunted freedom which have tortured humanity and exhausted the very sources of human existence, sources which have been exploited by a mob of rascally adventurers who know not what they do .... USELESS CHANGES OF FORMS OF GOVERNMENT TO WHICH WE INSTIGATED THE "GOYIM" WHEN WE WERE UNDERMINING THEIR STATE STRUCTURES, WILL HAVE SO WEARIED THE PEOPLES BY THAT TIME THAT THEY WILL PREFER TO SUFFER ANYTHING UNDER US RATHER THAN RUN THE RISK OF ENDURING AGAIN ALL THE AGITATIONS AND MISERIES THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH.

WE SHALL FORBID CHRIST

2. At the same time we shall not omit to emphasize the historical mistakes of the GOY governments which have tormented humanity for so many centuries by their lack of understanding of everything that constitutes the true good of humanity in their chase after fantastic schemes of social blessings, and have never noticed that these schemes kept on producing a worse and never a better state of the universal relations which are the basis of human life ....

3. The whole force of our principles and methods will lie in the fact that we shall present them and expound them as a splendid contrast to the dead and decomposed old order of things in social life.

4. Our philosophers will discuss all the shortcomings of the various beliefs of the "GOYIM," BUT NO ONE WILL EVER BRING UNDER DISCUSSION OUR FAITH FROM ITS TRUE POINT OF VIEW SINCE THIS WILL BE FULLY LEARNED BY NONE SAVE OURS WHO WILL NEVER DARE TO BETRAY ITS SECRETS.

5. IN COUNTRIES KNOWN AS PROGRESSIVE AND ENLIGHTENED WE HAVE CREATED A SENSELESS, FILTHY, ABOMINABLE LITERATURE. For some time after our entrance to power we shall continue to encourage its existence in order to provide a telling relief by contrast to the speeches, party program, which will be distributed from exalted quarters of ours .... Our wise men, trained to become leaders of the GOYIM, will compose speeches, projects, memoirs, articles, which will be used by us to influence the minds of the GOYIM, directing them towards such understanding and forms of knowledge as have been determined by us.[/QUOTE]

Of course not, He was a Chinese Aviator

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Tell ya what, AJ Bitch, let's toss the coin and make a deal, heads: you grow a brain and tails: I ignore you. You can take your jew-written bible and shove it up your ass, hmmmmK?[/QUOTE]Oh, yeah, baby: within the body of the Missing Link lives Don Rickles! But what the hey, Rickles is every bit as jewish as the good Colonel. Smooth comeback, nonetheless, Colonel.Kopectate!

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]My sane German woman and I were going to begin heckling the idiot...[/QUOTE]That she should have had no concern whatsoever for being seen in public with a 'tard like you seems to negate any possibility of her being sane (or German, one can only hope).

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]In my life, I will say that stupid xtians have caused me more DIRECT harm than the slimy jews.[/QUOTE]Maybe the reason is that they find you to be completely repulsive and without any socially redeeming features whatsoever, you know, in common with most jews.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]At least the jews place a high regard on being educated, unlike...[/QUOTE]...Colonel.Kurtz who has now demonstrated how being born with only 38 chromosomes is not a good thing.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Oh yeah, I see that your sane and balanced Doppel has gathered his marbles and has left the playpen...[/QUOTE]Now, now, you're just jealous because Doppel has all his marbles, unlike you. As for leaving the playpen, well, maybe if you'd do that and shove the six inch nose hairs back up your hook-shaped proboscis, you might be able to get a sane (possibly German) female OVER the age of 10, unlike the ones you normally court from the playpen. Aaaaaah, who am I kidding? A female 'groid is about as good as you'll ever be able to do. Be sure to carry plenty of bananas and Ripple along with you when you get horny.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]I pity you fucking imbeciles...[/QUOTE]Hey, Mr. T, what have you fucked lately that didn't have cloven hooves and four stomachs? At least carnal assignations with imbeciles won't put one in danger of contracting either Lyme or Mad Cow Disease. Sooo, THAT'Z why your brain has turned to mush, eh?

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]...and I will spare no mercy if any of you ever cross my path, you are the scourge of the White Race.[/QUOTE]And wouldn't you just like to be of the White Race as we are, Colonel.Katz?

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]I have to question the racial loyalties of anyone who capitalizes the word "jew" or the word "xtian".[/QUOTE]I have to question the racial loyalties of anyone who hates White People as much as you do, Kurtz. Oh, I forgot: you're not White.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Hitler was right, with the steady advance of science and technology, the need for such silly superstitions will eventually diminish.[/QUOTE]Unlike you, Hitler didn't seek to annihilate White Christians. Of course, unlike you, Hitler was a Christian. And unlike you, Hitler was White.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]...we all know how brutal the xtians were in wiping out anything other than their semitic ideas.[/QUOTE]We all know how the Christians (actually the chruch hierarchy) gave up doing those things quite a long time ago, unlike the JUDEO-ATHEISTS (your people, Kurtz), who have "wiped out" far more people in the last century than all other conquerors combined ever did throughout recorded history.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kazt]I say crush the weak and the weak-minded, as is Nature's Law.[/QUOTE]Well, dude, then you'd better requisition a combat helmet and some sandbags from OSHA, 'cause you're goin' down, baby!

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]I won't even bother to respond to DuckMartin[/QUOTE]When somebody is as intellectually outgunned as you are against Doc II (or anyone over the age of 3), I can't blame you.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Oh I'm sure you've read plenty of jew/xtian crap in your pitiful life,[/QUOTE]Well, having read plenty of "jew/xtian crap" is something you'll never be accused of. Actually, the accusation of having read anything other than the directions to your inflatable German woman is something which you'll never, ever be burdened with.

And "jew/Christian" is an oxymoron, whereas you are a regular moron.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]In my various businesses over the years, I've hired and fired plenty of jews, xtians and jigs...[/QUOTE]Yes, but then they all grew up and pursued more mature vocations after leaving you to run your lemonade stand all by yourself. What'z your point, moron?

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]And your pitiful comment about last century's xtians; how exactly shall I travel back into time and affect them?[/QUOTE]I know an auto dealer here on the East Coast who would be more than happy to give you a great deal on a pre-owned DeLorean with rusted brake lines. And there are a number of people on this forum who would gladly take up a collection for you so that you may buy it, and more importantly, use it.

But hey, there are more than a few of us here who would love to travel Back To The Future so that perhaps your parents could be prevented from having ever met. Unless, of course, we can figure out a way for Dr. Kevorkian to earn a 24 hour pass out of the klink to make a house call.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Sorry, I don't "meet" xtian imbeciles daily. Today, for instance, I haven't had any contact whatsoever with any xtians. [/QUOTE]Probably because nobody wants to even be within ten feet of a greazy, slimy, oleaginous, porcine, malodorous cretin such as you.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]This I believe, as your stupidity level matches that of the other two christlings chiming in on this thread.[/QUOTE]This, coming from a guy who has well over 500 posts to his credit, and not a one has ever caused a single person on this forum to have to consult a dictionary.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Now, go fetch, lay-down, roll-over, turn the other cheek, sell all that thou hast and give to the poor, be meek and inherit the Earth, fear god's Chosen, turn the other cheek again,[/QUOTE]While I'm quite certain that you're intimately familiar with the proactive need to turn the other cheek, I'm equally convinced that in your case, it has nothing to do with religious conviction, and everything to do with your perverted desire to experience hamster-induced titillation to the fullest extent imaginable. And WHITE PEOPLE are "God's Chosen", you dumbass. Oh, I forgot. You wouldn't know that because you're not White. Which is why you hate White people.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Unbelievable power, hahahahaha, that's what I crave, hahahaha. Faster than a speeding bullet, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound..... yes, I've done it all, and done it all alone...[/QUOTE]...and you have the thick calluses all over your fingers to prove it. Dude, you really need to get yourself a German woman. Sorry, I forgot: a big, fat, black, boot-lipped mammy would be the best a Wes Craven casting call reject like you could ever hope for.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Now, how did you know that I have a mantle? Hmmm, maybe you xtians aren't so stupid after all.... that kinda gives me the creeps, if you know what I mean. Well, but then, I bet you can't tell me what I've got on my mantle, can you, goyboy?[/QUOTE]Let me guess: big boxes of candy which you distribute freely everyday to any of the kindergarten boys or girls (we know you prefer boys) who are willing to climb into your back seat with you, you sick bastard.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]I've actually marched in the mean streets alongside proven White fighters like White Will, Ron Doggett, Billy Roper, Byron Calvert, Fred Streed, Chester Doles, etc, etc, etc. [/QUOTE]Yes, but carrying the spittoon for them to use while they march doesn't count, moron. Maybe you'll be promoted to "piss boy" one of these days.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]However, these xtian are so inexplicably insecure...[/QUOTE]Yeah, right. That'z why on EVERY WN forum I've seen, with NO exceptions, the only hostilities I ever encounter flow in ONE direction: from Pagan/Atheist to Christian, NEVER THE OTHER WAY AROUND (at least not initially)! So tell me, Colonel Katz-enjammer-Yid: who's REALLY insecure here?

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]...they just cannot let go that warm, fuzzy feeling that their jewsus gives them...[/QUOTE]"Warm, fuzzy feeling", eh? Just like those hamsters that try to shimmy their way back out of your ass every night? Interesting choice of words, Colonel.Katz-enjammer-Yid.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Oh my, what fun!! There should be a law.[/QUOTE]For you there is: it'z called Megan's Law. And it WILL catch up with you one of these days.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Ahh, you're not fun anymore, I'm tired of playing with you. It's the same old, same old.[/QUOTE]Well, you could aggravate your calluses and go back to playing with yourself. Better yet, as I said above, you REALLY need to get yourself a German woman. But since you cannot (and it'z well known you have charges of interstate pederasty piling up against you), you'll have to settle for dat big, black mammy. Maybe Daryle Lamont Sanford can fix you up with his sister (if he has one), or maybe even HIS mammy instead!

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Whenever I hear about your jewsus this and your god that, at least there's some tragicomedy in the air! You know, something to bite into and chew a bit.[/QUOTE]Guntermensch88 can help you out there. He'll drop trou and give you "something to bite into and chew a bit". His phone # and home address are both readily available (BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA).

[QUOTE=Intrepid]You, obviously, are a modern Tacitus.[/QUOTE]Modern Crassus maybe. However, modern DUMBASS would be better still.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]That's OK, my poor little xtian mush mind, you may leave, no one will molest you.[/QUOTE]I'm sure you wouldn't say that to Intrepid if he was only 5 years old.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Katz]Ordinary men like us could never comprehend god's will anyway...[/QUOTE]A profoundly cretinous dolt like you could never comprehend the deeper meaning contained within a fire, let alone God's will. What'z your point, pinhead?

Well, as much of a morbidly retarded dumbass as you may be, Colonel.Katz-enjammer-Yid, at least you now know that Jesus was not a jew!


Praise Yahweh!

Heil Rockwell!

Impeach Bush!

Ignore HAAAAAAnity!

Convict/Deport AIPAC!

Nuke It'z-A-Fake!

Plenty of niggers, spics and other assorted muds are xtians. What's the percentage of White xtoids who DON'T believe jewsus kikez was a White man? -1/10th of 1%? - You ci's gonna convert them all? THEN we'll have a holy war against the kikes! With the newly arrived, second coming White jeebo leading the charge!!! halliejewliah!!! - Wow! And these people use computers too?!

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] I've actually marched in the mean streets alongside proven White fighters like White Will, Ron Doggett, Billy Roper, Byron Calvert, Fred Streed, Chester Doles, . [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Not to mention how he drooled at the site of Elisha in a see through shirt. How many times have you mentioned that site here Klutz? So detailed I would say he even remembers the date. Oh hard was you looking anyway? You big pervert.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=8300&page=10&pp=10&highlight=elisha
post #95

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz]Quote:
Originally Posted by Elisha Strom
Shall I post your picture from the same rally?
http://www.elishastrom.com
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel.Kurtz
"Actually, there is a image of you that I will never forget that of you waltzing into Chuck's bar in Marlinton after an LC and you wearing a see-thru white shirt sans bra.

Dang, it's been a week since my post, and no response from Elisha. The suspense is killin' me.[/QUOTE]

Let's look at the object of the perverts lust.

http://www.splcenter.org/images/dynamic/intel/report/8/ir111_stromelisha_200x315.jpg



[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz] I won't even bother to respond to Duck[/QUOTE]



And hey perv don't get into a sick perverted fantasy about me or your duck. What is the deal about a duck anyway.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] That's just it dufus, you just ain't got a duck at all! Nor balls, hahahahahaha. I just couldn't let that one pass, it was there for the pickins'. Thanks again, idiot!! Hahahahahaha [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Wow I haven't heard anything like that since 6th grade. Dufus and duck. Yeah I put that there to prove that you are an adolescent and would give a juvenile response. You should have quoted me correctly though. Another lie on top of many.

Now I know beyond any shadow of a doubt you never marched with doles or anyone else for that matter. How about you prove it. You won’t because you can’t. Since you are so famous produce one picture of you with any WN leader. You can even chop the head off if you are terrified of some VNNF’er.

BTW I never claimed to march with Roper or any else for that matter so I don’t have the pictures before you ask. You are a liar and I have just proven it. Hey notice the Klutz is now sporting a M L Coon quote below his avatar. He is showing his true colors. You may have really marched but it was the Coon instead of any white leader.

You are like Gunter all these big claims about being around WN leaders and absolutely no proof. Gunter claimed to have had documentaries filmed in his living room and no one ever saw them. You schizophrenic warped little insect you need to seek counseling, if for nothing else than to help you cope with the fact Elisha won’t give you the time of day.

I am through with you pervert you have shown what a pathetic liar you truly are. Now go play with a duck since you are so fond of them.

RE: Paul Drake

Welcome to VNN

Let’s get this out of the way first........I am not a follower of any Christian Church or any other type of organized religion. My own personal opinion is based somewhat on the intelligent design theories of the universe.

Having said this, I have studied the Bible as well as many other books, and I can say unequivocally, that the Bible is an incredible book loaded with wisdom of the ages. There are some things in the Bible that many people have problems with, so they reject the book entirely........but to use an automobile as an analogy...........It would be like saying , “I junked my car, because it has some dents in the fender“.

Simply because there are some hokey-sounding things in the Bible, is that a reason to completely trash a book that some of the world’s greatest minds have devoted their lives to studying?

Try reading Proverbs and tell me why that isn’t a useful guide for people to use in their day to day living?

Plenty of niggers, spics and other assorted muds are xtians. What's the percentage of White xtoids who DON'T believe jewsus kikez was a White man? -1/10th of 1%? - You ci's gonna convert them all? THEN we'll have a holy war against the kikes! With the newly arrived, second coming White jeebo leading the charge!!! halliejewliah!!! - Wow! And these people use computers too?!

"Plenty of niggers, spics and other assorted muds are xtians. "

Unless niggers and muds are under the direct tutelage of Whites, they will invariably revert back into primitive fetish worship. Countless White missionaries have lost their lives trying to convert the un-convertible in the mistaken notion that niggers and muds are the same as White people.

"What's the percentage of White xtoids who DON'T believe jewsus kikez was a White man? -1/10th of 1%?- You ci's gonna convert them all?"

You make a good point by what you say here with the inference that most Christians believe that Jesus was a jew. Because they believe the jew lie to that effect. This is the bastardization of Christianity that I was referring to in my first post. The jew has twisted Christianity just as he twists everything else. The jew has fucked-up the western world and White culture on numerous levels, not just on the religious level of our culture. The jew has twisted our government, our women, but his twisting of our religions must rank as his principle victory.

But you are going in the wrong direction when you infer that I want White people to believe that Jesus was a White man.......because Jesus was not White either. Go back to the first post for the explanation. Jesus was God incarnate. He was neither a jew nor White nor any other race, he was God in living flesh. That flesh may have resembled a Semitic-looking human, but by Biblical accounts he was .....“of the Holy Ghost". Matt 1:20

You asked.......... “You ci's gonna convert them all?”

The jews have convinced Christians that Jesus was a jew, but this is not what the Bible says. Just like the jews and their obsession with homosexuals, they churn-out movies and TV sitcoms loaded with fags and yet the Bible calls homosexuals “an abomination”. I point this out because it is so obvious that the jew doesn’t give a shit what the Bible says or who Jesus really was, because they are the anti-Christ according to the Bible and utterly evil people........Why do you think we, White Nationals hate the jews so much?......Just because they pick on White people?......It goes much deeper then that. Why is the connection so hard to see?

When placed in a Biblical sense...............It makes sense...............How could so many lemmings, blindly follow the jew, when everything that the jew does is toxic to them?

We are White Nationals and we can plainly see the diabolical nature of the jew. And we are here screaming from the rooftops that jews are lying, filthy, perverted bastards with mountains of “documented and blood-dripping proof“...........And we are the ones called haters and evil? What kind of power is that over the minds of men? Sometimes when I hear lemmings speak, I feel as though I’m watching a horror sci-fi flick. And many of them are Christians as well as atheists. They are mind controlled robots who’s minds are not their own................The Bible calls Satan "The Great Deceiver“....I know of no more appropriate name for the jew...........do you?

Intelligent design sounds good. Too bad it's being used as a foil by creationists. The Earth is more than 5765 years old. There may be intelligent design, but you'll never discover it by using the bible as an investigative tool.

All people believe only what they want to believe. Whatever makes you happy. Whatever it takes for you to get through the day.

There's lots more wrong with your car than dented fenders, Mr. brutus. You might want to junk it because it won't run. No drivetrain. The bible is presented as the Ultimate Truth and I say that if the 'ultimate truth' contains so much as one falsehood, one misleading fact, one concept that does not square with reality, not only is it not the ultimate truth, it is the Ultimate Lie.
If proverbs is or is not a useful guide for people means nothing to me. I keep honest effort for my 'useful guide'. That's all I need and it's not in any Book!
If your car with no drivetrain has ok tires doesn't matter. I'm still not buying it. Your spook in the sky isn't real. Hello?!
niggers and spics have taken up xtoidism precisely because it IS a primitive fetish worship! Let's see, jewsus kikez was xified for the 'sins' of all mankind
if I'm not mistaken. What is that if not voodoo?
OK, I get it. You don't want White people to believe that jewsus was a white man. You want them to believe he was some divinity incarnate. Fine. You can clear up their errors in thinking from now until forever if you like. It certainly will take you that long to convince me. In the meantime I will be Hating my neighbor. With Passion. I didn't get that from a book either. Living next door to yammering spic filth has made my Revised Handloading Guide my 'Bible'!

Interesting, this little religious war on VNN. As have many of us, I have observed the undermining of Christian churches in this country over the years. I have witnessed the promotion of integration and miscegenation that comes from the modern-day pulpit. In general, I really don't care what or who someone worships, if anything, as long as he has his head screwed on RIGHT ABOUT RACE. For example, Pastor Butler was a religious man, but he had his head straight about RACE. Therefore, I don't care if the man wanted to worship frog hair. However, Christianity has done our race much harm. Charlemagne slew the Saxons for the Roman Church. His imperial armies lopped the heads off of many fine Saxon warriors, and those he did not kill, the armies took as slaves. (Perhaps all persons of Saxon blood should seek reparations from Rome?) It was a sad day in history when Wittukind, the Saxonfurher, knelt before the "Holy" Roman Emperor to receive the sacrament of baptism. Wittukind had hidden in the Frankish forests for over 22 years prior to his surrender to the emperor. What a man he must have been! How many of us could survive for 22 years or more hiding out in a forest? He was apparently sickened by the slaughter and enslavement of his people. I drove by a local church today and saw several beautiful white families entering the building. Then, I saw a mulatto family entering the building as well. Unfortunately, many Christians put religion above race. I don't really care about an individual's religous beliefs, but I do care about where his loyalties lie in regards to our racial well-being.

I think many people go to churches in order to be part of a community and to feel they belong to a somewhat cohesive group of like-minded people. Churches used to be "a good place to raise your children." But now, white community is being destroyed in the churches as well. In my own hometown, a local Methodist church has provided a fine example of genocidal action against the white race. Many congregants in that old church had been born into that community, raised their families within that church, and were planning to be buried by that church. Of course, over the decades, the older folks had supported that church financially. Within the last few years, they got a new minister. He and his lovely wife, both white, adopted a child of Mexican origins. Then, they started an after-school program for Mexican immigrant children there. They opened the floodgates to the Mexican invaders who are swarming into this town. Ultimately, they told the congregation that ALL services would be in Spanish, and if they didn't like it, they could leave. So, some of the older folks raised a fuss with the church hierarchy. The response? They were ignored. Mainstream churches today tout multi-cult universalist-egalitarian theories and doctrines without a thought for the morrow. Amazing these short-sighted clergy have even no concern for the fate of their faith if it falls into the hands of non-whites.

[QUOTE=brutus]Jesus was not a jew.........he was the product of a divine immaculate conception.[/QUOTE]

*Sigh....*

Ok, so you've made your point. Let us assume for a minute that this is true. So what?! If I'm not mistaken that was a few years ago. What has he done for me lately?!!!

Mainstream xianity has been nothing but destructive for the last two-thousand years for Whites.

Give me 3 generations of selective breeding with Aryans and I'll show you a divine masterpiece!

By the way, I'm not religious or anything, but I think his name is Jeebus.


I think that you'll find that it does not matter what one's religion is (or is not), if you are a racially aware White person, then we will have more in common than not.

Get over it.

RE: Paul Drake

There's lots more wrong with your car than dented fenders, Mr. brutus. You might want to junk it because it won't run. No drivetrain.
Why not tell me about your car, I’d like to give it an appraisal, also? Or better-yet, why not show me a better model and I’ll go out and test drive it today?


The bible is presented as the Ultimate Truth and I say that if the 'ultimate truth' contains so much as one falsehood, one misleading fact, one concept that does not square with reality, not only is it not the ultimate truth, it is the Ultimate Lie.
This is true. There is that fine line between gullibility and being aware that we cannot ever know everything. The Bible uses metaphor and is loaded with allegory. These two literary devices can be extremely difficult to prove their content’s point with 100% accuracy and it’s always open to interpretation. That is one of the Bible’s interesting attributes, it keeps one guessing and that is where the value of one’s faith is judged....and that, apparently is the message of the Bible.


If proverbs is or is not a useful guide for people means nothing to me. I keep honest effort for my 'useful guide'. That's all I need and it's not in any Book!
That’s fine. But I’m not ashamed to say, that I’ve gotten most of my learned knowledge from books.


niggers and spics have taken up xtoidism precisely because it IS a primitive fetish worship!
This is wrong. niggers and muds have taken-up Christianity because some misguided Christians have shoved it down their throats because they wrongly assumed that niggers and muds are the same as Whites. And arguably, monotheism is quite a bit more cerebral then praying to a rock.


OK, I get it. You don't want White people to believe that jewsus was a white man. You want them to believe he was some divinity incarnate. Fine.
This is not “my” personal opinion.........I was merely stating the differences between the distorted jew version of Christianity followed by most of today’s modern Christians and what the Bible actually says.


You want them to believe he was some divinity incarnate.
Again, this was stated because this is what the Bible presents as a fact. You can believe what you like.


You can clear up their errors in thinking from now until forever if you like. It certainly will take you that long to convince me.
I realize that most so-called Christians are lost causes and that they will continue to participate in the destruction of the White race and I too, have contempt for them.
But don’t you think that it would be easier to teach a Christian to actually know the real words and meaning that is written within in their own Bible......then it would be to try to persuade them to become atheists and denounce their god?


Hating my neighbor. With Passion. I didn't get that from a book either. Living next door to yammering spic filth has made my Revised Handloading Guide my 'Bible'!
Actually, I can relate to what you say here.

RE: Lightening and Sun

Mainstream xianity has been nothing but destructive for the last two-thousand years for Whites.
I respectfully disagree with you here. The fact is, that the destruction caused but the “jew -distorted” version of Christianity is a relatively recent phenomenon, and commencing about 1960. Prior to this time, Christians were taught that jews were liars and evil. Christianity was seen as a “White religion” with a system of codified morally that aided the White race in dominating the world.

In other words, White Christians used the principles of good and evil as defined in the Bible to guide them in their day to day activities.

Wouldn’t you rather deal with a businessman who actually believed that God would punish him if he cheated you.....then a business man who didn’t know the difference between right and wrong? That’s the difference between a Biblically trained altruist and an inherently selfish person.

It was this trust, uncalculated by Biblical teaching that allowed great cooperation between Whites on all levels of interaction and that contributed greatly to our success.


Give me 3 generations of selective breeding with Aryans and I'll show you a divine masterpiece!
That is something that I’d love to see. I am with you 100% with this statement.

[QUOTE=brutus]Having said this, I have studied the Bible as well as many other books, and I can say unequivocally, that the Bible is an incredible book loaded with wisdom of the ages. [/QUOTE]

"She really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife." (Gen 20:12)

"The name of Nahor's wife was Milcah; she was the daughter of Haran, the father of both Milcah and Iscah."

"so both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father." (Gen 19:36)

"Amram married his father's sister Jochebed, who bore him Aaron and Moses." (Exod 6:20)

"He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him," (John 6:55)

"kill without pity; spare no one. Kill and destroy them all, old men and young, girls, little children and women. . . ." (Ezekiel 9:1-7)

"I myself will punish you seven times over for your sins. Instead of meat you shall eat your sons and your daughters." (Leviticus 26:27-29)

"I will execute judgment in your midst for the nations to see. . . . Therefore, O Jerusalem, fathers will eat their children and children their fathers in your midst. . . ." (Ezekiel 5:8-10)

"O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us -- he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." (Psalm 137)

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts." (Malachi 2:3)

"But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own urine with you? " (2 Kings 18:27)

Uh, incest, eating shit, eating human flesh, and breaking kids heads open on rocks. Great wisdom! Clearly thought up by White minds. Idiots.

Christianity comes from this place:

http://travelers.israel.net/image/mideast.gif

The Middle East is not Europe. This is Europe:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/europe_ref802637_1999.jpg

I know it's hard, but...

Asia Minor is not Europe.

Things that come from Asia Minor are not meant for European consumption.

Its pure schizo jew drivel.

[QUOTE=Paul Drake]Plenty of niggers, spics and other assorted muds are xtians. What's the percentage of White xtoids who DON'T believe jewsus kikez was a White man? -1/10th of 1%? - You ci's gonna convert them all? THEN we'll have a holy war against the kikes! With the newly arrived, second coming White jeebo leading the charge!!! halliejewliah!!! - Wow! And these people use computers too?![/QUOTE]
Ok Jarl made the claim that there were 200,000,000 Christians. I believe there are more but I will take his figures since he despised Christianity.
That comes to a grand total of TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND of us white people that believe Jesus was white. That is 200,000 and that is a very concretive estimate. Christianity was started with one person and we have 200,000 whites that believed Jesus was white.

That is quite an army. What other organized pagan or atheist white racist group can make such a boast? I don’t think any of you can come close to our numbers. Who’s side do you want to be on if it hits the fan? We have 200,000 how many do you have? A few chapters with 20 in each club at the very most.

How many white Lemmings exist? You pagans/atheists going to convert them all? I didn’t think so.

[QUOTE=Babycakes]However, Christianity has done our race much harm. [/QUOTE]
Ok why is it when a Christian does something great like invents something or is an accomplished musician or artist, they just HAPPEN to be a Christian but when someone claiming to be a Christian sees some land he wants and says “I will accuse the owner of being pagan or witch and burn them at the stake and take their land”, it is Christianity has done bad things to our race.

Now to ask you another question, was it Christianity has done bad things to our race or people claiming to be Christians have done bad things to our race? There is a HUGE difference.

Seems to me to be a double standard here?

Charlemagne slew the Saxons for the Roman Church.
I think you answered it here, it was one person using Christianity. So one person using Christianity can nearly wipe pagans off the face of the planet and you don’t thing many of us can take this world back? What kind of logic are you using?

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] The following quotation comes from Elisha Strom, who offered to post a picture of me from the same rally as the photo of her was taken from:[/SIZE]

Quote:
[COLOR=Magenta]Originally Posted by Elisha Strom

"Shall I post your picture from the same rally? "[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
I don't have her ISP how do we know you didn't make a name up and post to make yourself look good? She, it or a figment of your imagination hasn't been back yet. It is amazing she only showed up to verify you attended a rally and nothing else. She wouldn't have recognized you unless she knew you by Col Kurtz, so it is unlikely that username was her. I notice that he, she, it never followed through on the threat, so that was a lie. You can’t even tell the truth through a sock-puppet.

[SIZE=3]Who knows you are such a sick pervert you may have created it, kind of like your own Elisha sock puppet. That is truly sick. [/SIZE]

And Duckless just posted that quotation only a few posts back, thanks Duckless, you've opened the door to your own doom!! Do you see that, Duckless:
the tables are turned on you, eh Duckless?
That is 4 on the Duckless count. I don't mind you insulting me when you can't disprove your lies, but at least act like a man. At least when Intrepid used to insult me I believed he was an Aryan at least in his mid twenties. When you try to insult me I fell like I have been wasting my time arguing with some grade school girl.

Have some dignity. When you insult others what do you call them? Cowless, or catless how about dogless? If you are not going to contribute get off this thread and go back to your bar with your Elisha fantasies.

[QUOTE=Babycakes] But now, white community is being destroyed in the churches as well. [/QUOTE]
Was it the Church or the minister? The congregation I preach at hasn't destroyed any white communities.
In my own hometown, a local Methodist church has provided a fine example of genocidal action against the white race. Within the last few years, they got a new minister. He and his lovely wife, both white, adopted a child of Mexican origins. Then, they started an after-school program for Mexican immigrant children there. They opened the floodgates to the Mexican invaders who are swarming into this town. Ultimately, they told the congregation that ALL services would be in Spanish, and if they didn't like it, they could leave.
It looks like it was the minister you all hired not the Methodist religion (and I don't like the Methodists either so I am not defending them) or the church, it was the work of the two individuals you people chose to hire. They are reliant on the congregation just make a new one or fire those two misfits. Problem solved.
[QUOTE=Lightning and Sun]
Ok, so you've made your point. Let us assume for a minute that this is true. So what?! If I'm not mistaken that was a few years ago. What has he done for me lately?!!!
[/QUOTE]
What have you done for Him lately and why should He do anything for you?
[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]One of the major jewish like things of christinsanity besides, is it's focus on suffering and guilt and persercution.[/QUOTE]
Aside from your atrocious misspellings you did bring up a good point. This is a problem that has nothing to do with Christianity but the Jewish perversion of it.

If you are baptized your sins are washed away and you SHOULD be guilt free. This is what I teach, this is what the bible teaches. However individuals calling them selves Christians do not teach this. This came from the Catholics (perhaps the Jews were involved as it involved money), and they did this for the purpose of using one’s guilt to extort finances for penance. Forgiveness is between the individual and Jesus and there should be no guilt in a Christian. Someone that understands Christianity and how it operates will not have any guilt either.

[QUOTE=brutus]The Bible uses metaphor and is loaded with allegory. These two literary devices can be extremely difficult to prove their content’s point with 100% accuracy and it’s always open to interpretation.[/QUOTE]
That is the result of following traditional beliefs and lack of study. Actually lack of study is the major problem because the more you study (with an open mind) the more traditions you will scrap and the more nonsense being pumped into modern Christianity you will reject. The problem with the study habit of most is they begin in Revelation or Matthew either is confusing if you have not read all the preceding books of the bible.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz]but suffice it to say that with xtian ministers like that, who needs jews to hate?[/QUOTE]
Typical bait and switch Jewish tactics. Take the focus away from the Jew and put it on a white man (assuming you only do business with whites). I am sure the Jew owes you a gratitude of thanks for taking the focus away from him.

Don't you have an Elisha fantasy you need to be getting back to?

Ther is no point in arguing with Doc about jeebus, Doc knows all about him. He even has a picture of him that proves he is a White man.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=108245&highlight=picture#post108245
http://www.ldstaiwan.com/english/images/jesus.jpg

Originally Posted by sean(doc)martin
That was the picture they had in the college I attended. Thanks I have been looking for that. :)
Notice how white and Aryan, basically non-Jewish Jesus is?


Originally Posted by IronWorker
[size=4]Dude, no one knows what Jesus looked like.[/size] His appearance is not described in the jewish Bible.


Originally Posted by sean(doc)martin
You saw the picture didn't you? Jesus was white.

Notice how quick everyone comes flocking to the DOC? So you answered a few Elisha allegations now about answering everything else I said in that post. Not just you but anyone who would like to.



Momus I am actually surprised you knew where to find that post. Klutz should be half as smart as you. See Klutz how Momus does it? And he is the lowest of the low. Now if you had one fifth the flame skills of Intrepid or Dop perhaps you could get some respect on this board.

I knew he was a fan but I didn’t imagine he was such a fan though. That earns him an autograph.

When I finish my book do I make that autograph out to Momus or do you prefer another name?






[SIZE=3]Attention Moderators notice Col Kurtz’s new signature. It violates the codes of conduct of VNNF as it advocates violence to others and encourages criminal acts. What him change it now like the coward he is.

Col Kurtz’s Signature.

Want to help the white race? Murder a Christian.)" Quote from Prozak[/SIZE]


Also notice his bait and switch, help the white race bring harm to a white Christian but don't hurt his precious Jews.

[QUOTE=Keystone]Jesus (Yehoshua ben Yosef) was a nice Jewish boy. He had a bris. His skin was most likely middle brown.[/QUOTE]

Jesus was a half-Jew, thus mostly (84-98%) Caucasian. He was also a Buddhist-wannabe. He created a religion, and then Europeans reinvented it. However, they haven't gotten over the disease with which it is most closely associated. If the white race is to survive, it must leave behind dualistic Christianity and self-centeredness.

Yes, Doc, I'm one of your many fans. Any time you post we are trained by you to respond, right? Like dogs fetching a ball, remember? That was awfully clever of you to say- the first few dozen times. We've heard all of your scintillating witticisms; heard most of them back in junior high, as a matter of fact. Now it just makes you seem like nothing but a fool with nothing much to say when you repeat the same lame cheapshots, like a jew yelling "antisemite!" again and again.
Sign your latest tract, "To MOMUS, foolstalker, my nemesis."

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]Notice how quick everyone comes flocking to the DOC? So you answered a few Elisha allegations now about answering everything else I said in that post. Not just you but anyone who would like to.

Momus I am actually surprised you knew where to find that post. Klutz should be half as smart as you. See Klutz how Momus does it? And he is the lowest of the low. Now if you had one fifth the flame skills of Intrepid or Dop perhaps you could get some respect on this board.

I knew he was a fan but I didn’t imagine he was such a fan though. That earns him an autograph.

When I finish my book do I make that autograph out to Momus or do you prefer another name?
QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Keystone]A bris is short for "bris milah"---circumcision.


You should know more about jews the way you go on about them. hahahaha.

Know your obsessions.[/QUOTE]



He doesn't really say too much about Jews, only Christians.

[QUOTE=GHETTOFABULOUS ]heard most of them back in junior high[/QUOTE]
And you think Duckless is brilliant? You are low and pretty much useless scum like a dog begging for a bone. But compared to Kurtz you are a good flamer.

See Rounder I can point out a good point no matter how worthless the vermin is.


Well here is your bone now go fetch it. Before you bring it back go pay your land lady your back rent.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] Thanks Keystone, and yeah, you're right, I don't know much about the jew obsession with ducks, but I'm sure that that ol' DucklessMartin sure does. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
If I am duckless wouldn't it mean I don't have anything to do with ducks? You have gone off the deep end. Just like Jarl, Ironworker, Aryan Lard, NukeCal, Gunter88 and his fat sister Panzer88 and a host of others I have feuded with they are either banned or left with their tails between their legs. You will be no different.


You are the one with the sick duck and Elisha perverted dreams or whatever it is you do.

Keep me out of your perverted daydreams you sick freak.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] Plus, Jesus had a brother, imagine that! Archaeologists found Jesus brother's bone burial box fairly recently. I'd wager that Keystone even knows the fancy word for "bone burial box", if not, The Great Doc Martin surely does. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
That was proven to be a hoax. The box is called an ossuary.

I researched it in my sermon on Ezek 37.

Sean Martin Sermon # 21 Ezekiel 37 excerpt
With regards to burials, the dead were, in effect, buried twice. Here's how the process worked. when an individual died, his or her body was placed in a large family tomb, typically on a tomb cut out of rock, in one of the many chambers lining the walls of the tomb. then the family of the deceased sealed up the tomb and left it alone, perhaps until such time as someone else in the family was buried. When the family reentered the tomb, they would find the body desiccated-dried up, with skin, flesh, and sinews gone-in other words a skeleton. The skeleton was then taken form the wall chamber where it resided and placed in a common bone coffin located typically in the middle of the tomb. This common coffin, called an ossuary, held the bones of many persons, sometimes dozens of people. the bones were often separated from their usual skeletal positions in order storage in the ossuary efficient and allow the maximum number of bones in a single ossuary.
Only when the bones were dry would they be moved to the ossuary. The purpose of the ossuary was to group everyone as a family awaiting the resurrection.

[QUOTE=J.P. Slovjanski]Actually many Protestant preachers talk about Jesus' brother.[/QUOTE]
I was refering to the bone box. That was proven to be a hoax and nothing more than some old shoes with a name on them. They didn't belong to Jesus's brother.

What a lot of old tut! These two thousand year old fairy stories should be told by court jesters not priests. And even if that Jesus Christ was an immaculate conception, he still came out of that Jewess's pussy! :eek:

[QUOTE=Keystone]They love to talk about it. Especially the Reformed preachers.

Stickin' it to the catholic Perpetual Virgin every chance they get.

Intra-faith feuds are the weirdest things imaginable.[/QUOTE]

hmm, are you still here? What's with the small-case catholic? Have you dumped this aspect of your onscreen persona? Just curious.

[QUOTE=brutus]RE: Lightening and Sun


I respectfully disagree with you here. The fact is, that the destruction caused but the “jew -distorted” version of Christianity is a relatively recent phenomenon, and commencing about 1960. Prior to this time, Christians were taught that jews were liars and evil. Christianity was seen as a “White religion” with a system of codified morally that aided the White race in dominating the world.

In other words, White Christians used the principles of good and evil as defined in the Bible to guide them in their day to day activities.

Wouldn’t you rather deal with a businessman who actually believed that God would punish him if he cheated you.....then a business man who didn’t know the difference between right and wrong? That’s the difference between a Biblically trained altruist and an inherently selfish person.

It was this trust, uncalculated by Biblical teaching that allowed great cooperation between Whites on all levels of interaction and that contributed greatly to our success.



That is something that I’d love to see. I am with you 100% with this statement.[/QUOTE]

Your two statements (in bold) are the smartest thing written in this thread. You took my criticism leveled toward you and your beliefs and handled it perfectly.

Yes, we obviously disagree on some things, and agree on others.

HOWEVER, we (all WN) have a lot more in common than not.

When will our good people understand this? When will our good people put aside this destructive bickering?

The god-damned jews want us and our children dead. Fuck them all!

Our infighting MUST cease, at least temporarily. We Must focus on naming the jude. Yes, niggers and spics are a thorn in my side, but it's the jude who makes this so.

Every word we waste attacking each other is a thousand words that the jude does not have to say.

White transcends religion.

(Please excuse the long delay in replying, moderation sucks, but is necessary.)

[QUOTE=Lightning and Sun].

Yes, we obviously disagree on some things, and agree on others.

HOWEVER, we (all WN) have a lot more in common than not.

When will our good people understand this? When will our good people put aside this destructive bickering?

{QUOTE]




I agree with you on this completely. This is so much bickering between certain people on here, and their is nothing that is remotely constructive about this. I, also at times have been guilty of this, but I usually try not to start anything myself. It seems some people do not know how to disagree without resorting to stupid insults.

I believe some of you here would readily morph into a nigger if it ment the destruction of Christianity.

[QUOTE=VONBLUVENS]I believe some of you here would readily morph into a nigger if it ment the destruction of Christianity.[/QUOTE]


Yes, I think that could be true with a few of them. Colonel Kurtz says Christians have caused him more "harm" then Jews, and he even has praise for the jews.


In my life, I will say that stupid xtians have caused me more DIRECT harm than the slimy jews. At least the jews place a high regard on being educated, unlike the xtians, who seem to feel that their Bible is all anybody ever needs to read.
:rolleyes:

At least the jews place a high regard on being educated, unlike the xtians, who seem to feel that their Bible is all anybody ever needs to read

Actually agree with him there. Though it's unfair to lump all Christians into that category, I wouldn't say it's an inaccurate statement.

One of my christian relatives (not on the asian side) refused to let her children watch national geographic because of it was teaching "the devilry of evolution". She also thought everything one needs to know is in the bible.



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RE: Draco

Things that come from Asia Minor are not meant for European consumption.

You have a point, but there is a difference between being a race traitor and eating a plate of chinese food. And for the record...........atheism also, traces it’s roots back to the Middle East.

It seems that you and a few others have mistaken me for a Christian or Christian apologist.

The information stated in my prior posts concerning the Bible was given to help distinguish between what the Bible actual says and what today’s Christians say that they believe.

If one has a problem with Christian hypocrisy or the self-destructive nature of Christianity, it is better to understand the Christian creed as it’s written vs. the way it’s practiced by the charlatans, hypocrites and apostates, thereby, one would be better equipped to debate the topic without having to resort to ad hominem remarks.

One of the most common non-rational appeals is an "argumentum ad hominem"......or, as the Latin phrase suggests, an "argument against the person" (and not against the ideas he or she is presenting). Our decisions should be based on a rational evaluation of the arguments with which we are presented, not on an emotional reaction to the person or persons making that argument.

We are fighting the jew............in the world of ideas...............and for the time being our weapons are words, we must learn to make the strongest and most logical argument possible........otherwise our appeals will fall on deaf ears.

[QUOTE=Anima Eternae] Though it's unfair to lump all Christians into that category,[/QUOTE]



That is exactly what he is doing, and that is the problem I have with what he said.

[QUOTE=Anima Eternae]One of my christian relatives (not on the asian side) refused to let her children watch national geographic because of it was teaching "the devilry of evolution". She also thought everything one needs to know is in the bible.

...[/QUOTE]



Fair enough statement, Anima. But those attitudes run both ways.

If and when the jews are wiped from the earth, it will then be the christ-insanes holding back Aryan progress, like they had been doing before these jews were able to pull off their great banking pyramid scheme (begun in 1694 which is still in effect to this day) and wrestle away power from the Pope and that symbolic hat thats supposed to be a fish on his head.

They didnt call the rise of European Christianity "The Dark Ages" for no reason whatsoever.

Relign is a rather difficult topic. I have NO problem with racially-conscious White Chrisitians, and I truly do not wish to ruffle their feathers. There are many good points to be made about the role Christianity has played in promoting White Civilization, as Pat Buchanan and Robert Bork will tell you. However, Christianity has not been some unadulterated blessing for our race. God would that all Christians were Richard Butler! Unfortunately, these days, I see Lutherans proudly sending their children to be missionaries to Africa....and some of these children bring African wives back to America. I encountered an elderly Lutheran neighbor who was so proud that her daughter and son-in-law were making a missionary trip to Africa. I could only think, "I hope they get their BELLIES FULL OF AFRICA!" Then, I made my annual pilgrimage to the Lutheran Rummage Sale, and thus sat the lovely negroid daughter-in-law of a White Lutheran woman. Lutheran Granny, upon seeing the look of disgust on my face, held up her beloved Shimalinga-Jinga-descendent and announced, "THIS is my grandson!" I then sat me bargains upon the counter and walked out, slamming the door behind me. That particular congregation also had a bake sale for their missions to India. Those of us WNs who are critical of Christianity also note that organizations such as the World Council of Churches are by no means friendly to the White Race. But, it is obvious that the WN Christians on these forums are most certainly not of the common, "Love thy nigger" version of Christianity.

When someone cries foul in the face of attacks on christianity "because lots of brave men accomplished noble deeds under that banner, so to slam the religion is to negate their contributions", they should keep in mind countless generations accomplished noble deeds before that religion "rose". To accept this religion is to negate their contributions. Their deeds may be largely unwritten but surely occured.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz]


[SIZE=2]
I steered the conversation to the horrible treatment of Palestinians by their jewish occupiers, thinking Bill would be up to speed on current events in his "Holy Land". Hoooeeee, to my amazement, I soon found out how wrong I was. He didn't know the first thing about Israel, jews, muslims, or for that matter, anything substantial concerning any current world problems. But here's the kicker: he actually didn't care!! . [/SIZE][/QUOTE]



Again, I feel the need to say that, your right, there are some so-called Christians who are like your friend "Bill" But when you talk about people who do not know anything about current world problems or care, do you not realize that there are plenty of people who are also just like what you describe, and many of them are not Christians?

[QUOTE=Lightning and Sun]When will our good people put aside this destructive bickering?[/QUOTE]

I agree, in theory, but here's the rub: if there's a Jewish poison among us, and we can't eliminate it, the cause is lost anyway and we should self-destruct. At least in my view, if the white race can't leave behind Christianity it will be correct that it is destroyed and no trace of it left - it will be a failure.

[QUOTE=prozak]I agree, in theory, but here's the rub: if there's a Jewish poison among us, and we can't eliminate it, the cause is lost anyway and we should self-destruct. At least in my view, if the white race can't leave behind Christianity it will be correct that it is destroyed and no trace of it left - it will be a failure.[/QUOTE]
One step at a time grasshopper. The poison among us is the jude. Get rid of it first, then the rest will follow.

Let's not throw out the baby with the water.

This religion discussion is a red-herring for WN. Irrelevant to to our success. We are bigger than religion. We collectively transcend religion.

I could give a shit if Jesus was or was not a jude. I don't really care if Hitler was or was not a Christian, or believed in God/Gods.

I don't care if this hooked-nosed band of unterkiken are actual descendants of the biblical “Judeans" or not.

All I know is these fuckers that call themselves "Jews" want you and me and our offspring to die, or at least not pro-create, which means death to the White race eventually.

It is sometimes easy to overestimate the jude. Yes, it is powerful, but in what way? It (the jude) holds places of influence, it makes ridiculous laws that are contrary to common sense, it pushes one agenda for itself and another agenda for everyone else. Summary: the jude is deceitful, and it (the jude) derives it’s power from deceit.

This in turn is the kikes weakness, it is impossible to deceive 100% of the time and they often trip up, and overextend themselves. We have to train ourselves to capitalize on exposing them when this happens.

Conversely, it is sometimes easy to underestimate ourselves. I know that the juden fear me. I, one White man that is racially aware can strike fear into hundreds of jews. They fear me. They know that their days are numbered when I’m in charge. The very thought of a few hundred White activists shakes millions of juden to their very core. This is why they are so utterly venomous towards us, they know it.

Hold your head high Aryan volk. White is bigger than religion. For our folk, past, present, and future.

[QUOTE=Keystone]Jesus (Yehoshua ben Yosef) was a nice Jewish boy. He had a bris. His skin was most likely middle brown.

He was an agitator and cheesed the Sanhedrin off by claiming to be the Moshiach. They didn't believe him ( with very good reason) and had him killed. He never accomplished any of the deeds the Messiah was charged with by the old Israelite prophets. No do-overs. Sorry.

The End.[/QUOTE]

Jewboy, fucking stinker, comin on here posing as a Catholic and now you gleefully spout the kikish version of Christ. So you dont like the Panzerfaust Cd project, you make fun of skinheads, you quote the Jewish line on Christ, you lecture us on all these kikish terms like bris etc, what is it? Are you a Christkiller Keystein? Are you a fucking Jew? Come clean, Jew. Or are you that much of a liar you will deny it even now?

You couldnt just have fucked off and kept away could you? You had to return like a dog to his vomit? There is a special place in Hell for Christkillers and their handmaidens you filth.

[QUOTE=brutus]Jesus was not a jew.........he was the product of a divine immaculate conception.

The conception was of a devine ovum and divine seed and of no human particulates, pure and uncorrupted of original sin.

God chose a jewish family to come to earth incarnate and Mary was merely the vessel. No genetic part of Mary or Joseph comprised the body of Jesus.

Jesus took on the trappings of a jewish family because he was raised in one, but he was not a biological jew. His sermons explained that he was not jewish and the Disciples’ Books repeat this message.[/QUOTE]

Only someone from the lunatic fringe of the American CI camp could come up with this line.
Whether or not Jesus ben Joseph al Nazareth was a Jew or not, his followers worship the god of the Jews. That is enough for me to wash my hands of the whole filthy disgusting mess that is Christinsanity.
Christinsanity attracts people who have poor self esteem, because it preys upon feelings of guilt and inadequacy, and then adds a few more bricks to their burden.
Christinsanity teaches people to be weak and self loathing. It is spiritual poison.
The meek shall NOT inherit the earth. Such a sentiment is contrary to the law of nature. All that awaits the meek is slavery and extinction.
I am a white man. I WILL kick sand in the face of the meek.
I want no part of the yid on a stick (Jesus), nor his Jewish heavenly father.
I follow white gods. The gods who were recognised by my white ancestors before the worship of the black Hebrew was inflicted upon them at the point of a Roman sword.
Hail Wotan!

[QUOTE=Australianrage]
Christinsanity teaches people to be weak and self loathing.
[/QUOTE]
[SIZE=3]When did this start? And here I have been teaching people to be spiritual warriors and how to be guilt free.

Wow, glad I have people like you to set me straight, I better tell them tomorrow that whites don't have a chance and we just need to give up because we are Christians.

Amazing how the people that hate white Christians are always the experts on what Christianity teaches. Now I offer you a chance to correct yourself. Does Christianity teach us to hate ourselves and be weak, or do men claiming to be Christians teach that? [/SIZE]





For Christendom's sake, we'll take our revenge
On the pagans from out of the east
We Christians are coming, with swords held on high
United by faith and the cause
Saxon - "Crusader" :eek:

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin][SIZE=3]When did this start? And here I have been teaching people to be spiritual warriors and how to be guilt free.

Wow, glad I have people like you to set me straight, I better tell them tomorrow that whites don't have a chance and we just need to give up because we are Christians.

Amazing how the people that hate white Christians are always the experts on what Christianity teaches. Now I offer you a chance to correct yourself. Does Christianity teach us to hate ourselves and be weak, or do men claiming to be Christians teach that? [/QUOTE]

Instead of giving up, spend some time examining the logic of your position.
You believe that a global Jewish conspiracy is responsbile for what is wrong with the world, then on Sunday you go and sing praises to the god of the Jews.
Everyone should be able to see the contradiction within that situation.
As for knowing what Christinsanity teaches, I am familiar with the teachings.
I used to be a lay preacher for the Church of Christ and I spent years studying the Bible in considerable depth.
It was my awakening as a white man and as a National Socialist that caused me to see the contradictions in my position.
Do not abandon the struggle. Instead, explore the spiritual path of your ancestors with an open mind. They had one before Christinsanity was forced upon them at the point of a sword.
Christinsanity is based upon making people feel guilty for their natural instincts and behaviours. This is called sin.
The follower of Christinsanity then has to beg forgiveness, without ceasing, from the big angry god in the sky who, on one hand says that he is the god of love, but, on the other hand, says that he will roast alive for all eternity everyone who does not kiss his arse and beg forgiveness for these 'sins'.
From the point of view of an Odinist, the god Jehovah is a seriously evil demon that has major issues with women and sex.

[QUOTE=Australianrage]
I used to be a lay preacher for the Church of Christ and I spent years studying the Bible in considerable depth.
[/QUOTE]
I have no reason to doubt you nor do I am I fully aware of what the CofC teaches in Australia. But I do have a couple of questions.

If you were a lay preacher (a term never used in the CofC here) why did they allow you to do so if you were easily swayed?

If you studied the bible surely you would know the fallacy of your statement concerning what Christianity teaches.

Without looking on the net what is the most common teaching the CofC is known for and this teaching separates us from almost everyone else.

Did you use instruments, as this also tells a lot about what is being taught.

PM me sometime I would like to learn more of what lead you away.

[QUOTE=Australianrage]The follower of Christinsanity then has to beg forgiveness, without ceasing, from the big angry god in the sky who, on one hand says that he is the god of love, but, on the other hand, says that he will roast alive for all eternity everyone who does not kiss his arse and beg forgiveness for these 'sins'.
From the point of view of an Odinist, the god Jehovah is a seriously evil demon that has major issues with women and sex.[/QUOTE]

This is how the jewish rabbinal leaders conspired to keep the world enslaved - with the constant threat of eternal punishment from a sadistic overlord for failure to obey their every whim and fancy. Christianity added a few minor elements to the story, but left the hateful jew god in place. So it is not god that a christian worships, but the imaginary mechanism of jewish theocratic power. You may as well march naked on your knees past the synagogue every Sunday.

In Florida, a 13 year old child cannot have a hangnail removed by a doctor without notifying the parents. Nor can a child be given a Tylenol by the school nurse without letting the parents know first. If they did remove that hangnail or give the child a Tylenol without the parent’s approval, the parents could surely win a huge damage lawsuit against the doctor or the nurse for malpractice.

But, in the state of Florida, the jew has convinced people that it’s OK for their 13 year old daughter to get an abortion without notifying the parents.

Imagine, your little daughter can be given a general anesthetic and have a butcher hack-out of her womb your White grandchild, and you, as the parents can’t say a fucking word about it. let alone be informed of it !!!

This topic has been on the TV news lately and has given me pause to think.

What kind of brainwashing could ever convince a mother or father that they don’t need to know whether or not their 13 year old child is getting an abortion? How strong would that brainwashing have to be?

No, I’m not going to let it go there.............

There are varying degrees of persuasion as any marketing or sales person will tell you, but this is off the charts and beyond the scope of reality. Sure, we can find quite a few idiot parents that will go along with anything for any reason.............but I am talking about over half of the parents in Florida!

My point for bringing this up, is this..........

The jew obviously has the most powerful brainwashing apparatus ever known to mankind, and it’s been going, full tilt, on the minds of White America since the early 1950s with the introduction of the TV into every American home.

This brainwashing apparatus is working on many different aspects of our culture, such as:

The destruction of the position of the White man in American society, elevating of the nigger to god-status, celebrating homos, masculizing women, dumbing-down the schools.................and finally, bastardizing the Christian churches.

I realize that most of today’s so-called Christians are lost causes and that they will continue to participate in the destruction of the White race, therefore, I too have contempt for them.

Here’s the truth..............

Christians who were alive before the jew imposed this brainwashing apparatus upon the minds of Americans were taught to hate the jew. The historical record is full of Christian Crusaders who slaughtered jews by the thousands.
http://www.flholocaustmuseum.org/history_wing/antisemitism/crusades.cfm

Because I am older then many of you, (not necessarily smarter) I have, firsthand knowledge, of what Christianity was like before the jew and his TV took over the world and after. Most of you have only experienced the jew’ed version of Christianity as well as the jew revised historical accounts of Christianity. If you are under the age of 50..............much of your brains’ data base is comprised of jew factoids about Christianity.

I will tell you this....................you will never be able to get the Christians to give-up their God unless you have your own brainwashing apparatus and apply it to the brains of Christians for 50 years. Then you might have a chance.

By calling White Christians names and ridiculing them, we will alienate 90% of the Whites from our cause........we must rethink this strategy.

Let them have their God......................but we must make sure it is that God of the Bible that knew the jew as the Pharisee, the Crusader Christian, and not this weak and spineless cinematic/TV version of today's Jesus-type-Christian that the jew has been feeding the world since 1950.

Whoa Brutus that was chilling. As usual well said and thought out. We don’t have to agree on religion to agree on race. But when religion (or the individual) is attacked that is when the problem begins.

Brutus always has deep philosophical ideals that the rest of VNNF’ers could benefit from.

RE: Colonel.Kurtz

Sir Brutal, permission to respond to your post?

A personal and trusted confidant has informed me that we are indeed of like minds on all of the most important issues. Our differences are negligible and manageable to our mutual benefit of the promotion and securing White rule.

Therefore, I shall permit you into the inner circle of advisors who are respected for their intelligent and enlighten counsel.

Permission is duly granted.

Jesus hated the "scribes and pharisees". The jews and reporters/journalists.

So what else has changed ?

In the words of Father Jack Hackett. Feck off Mr. Antichrist!

I reckon you are aged about 20. Grow up.

As the philosophers say...it's better to live your life as if there is a God, rather than to live your life that there isn't, because when you do die.............

[QUOTE=heaven above]I reckon you are aged about 20. Grow up.

[/QUOTE]


You think he is that old? :D

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz] As is it today, there is nothing the xtian churches are doing to protect the White Race from the invading hordes, on the contrary, all xtian churches are now welcoming these invaders with open arms, even to the point of disdain for the good White Folk who establised the churches in the first place. This is totally unacceptable and must be one of our great priorities. Our Folk must be made aware that xtianity is as much a poison as judaism, after all, xtianity is just judaism light. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Aye mate, more true words have never been spoken.
The town I live near is 98.5% White. It is a very small Midwest farming town. 3 years ago it was 99.5% White, mostly conservative (I know, I'm spoiled). Now there are nigs, spics, and all kinds of mystery meat living here and more to surely come. Who might you think brought these little bastards in? Why all of the do-gooder xians did because their beloved jeebus told them to love, not hate.

However, I must point out that there are a few Klansmen around here, they profess to be christian and they utterly loathe jews. They were active around here about 4 years ago, putting on rally's etc. There is no mistake that they hared jews. They publicly announced it. They are good men and women.

So, I can deduce the following from my observations:

that christianity in and of itself is not necessarily "poison".

that race based xianity would not necessarily be inherently harmful to the White race (only race based!)

that mainstream xianity is, infact, the poison because it is not race based

that mainstream xianity is exactly the opposite of race-based, therefore it is a liability to the White race and MUST be destroyed at all costs even if that includes wiping out a few white-lemmings/race traitors.


WHITE TRANSCENDS RELIGION

Especially for you in the USA, have a dose of Father Coughlin. That guy was something else.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] in We will not be able to "turn back the clock" to the 1950's or to any "golden age" of xtianity (if there ever was one). If one wasn't alive to see how xtianity operated at that time, one could not imagine why it was described as being so wonderful. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]



Do you take this same attitute with non-Christian white lemmings? Do you think we are ever going to "turn back the clock" in regards to them and remove all the effects of their years of brainwashing?

[QUOTE=hitler goddess]You think he is that old?[/QUOTE]Bwaaaahahahahahahahaha! :D

[QUOTE=heaven above]Especially for you in the USA, have a dose of Father Coughlin. That guy was something else.[/QUOTE]A TRUE, unsung American hero who's almost (but not entirely) forgotten today. Over a decade before the great Joseph McCarthy, the equally great Charles Coughlin warned the American people of the judeo-red menace, only to be summarily relieved of his weekly, 14 year, 150 station network radio program in 1940, by the very people who don't control the media, of course.

Like 'ol Tailgunner Joe, however, Father Coughlin had the last laugh.:(

[QUOTE=AJ Balfour]Bwaaaahahahahahahahaha!

A TRUE, unsung American hero who's almost (but not entirely) forgotten today. Over a decade before the great Joseph McCarthy, the equally great Charles Coughlin warned the American people of the judeo-red menace, only to be summarily relieved of his weekly, 14 year, 150 station network radio program in 1940, by the very people who don't control the media, of course.

Like 'ol Tailgunner Joe, however, Father Coughlin had the last laugh.:([/QUOTE]

Yes, you and H.A. are quite right about those two Catholic heroes who fought Jewish Red influence to their last breath. Of course, the anti-White, anti-Christian bigots on this forum probably discount the courageous efforts. In fact, at least by their semi-literate scribblings, they would've wished for their demise & deaths, as well. :mad:

RE: Colonel.Kurtz

At some point in time, and preferably soonest before Whites extinct themselves, Whites must be shown that they don't need the inherently unnatural ideas found in their jew-written bibbles.

Please allow me to answer at length.

Modern Christians call themselves sheep which a metaphor of the Lamb or of Jesus.

Sheep are easily led to slaughter............because they are sheep. But this idea of Christians calling themselves sheep, goes against nature, whereby the laws of nature demand that a species do everything possible to ensure their survive and do nothing to purposely decrease their survival odds. Weren’t we all born with the genetic predisposition for self-preservation? Of course we were.

The New Testament (NT) or Christian Bible never refers to people as sheep or flock.............this is a jew contrivance found only in the jew torah called the Old Testament (OT) also called the Pentateuch as well as the other hebrew books of the OT. It is the jew who refers to non-jews as a heard animal....(Am 6:4 and 7:15). According to the NT Bible, it was Jesus who was the sacrificial Lamb, "not the people", as the jew would have modern Christians believe. This is the crux of the big jew lie.

Many modern Christian pastors wrongly call their congregation “flocks”. Implying that they are sheep. Most people go along with this bogus definition because every movie and TV show that they’ve ever seen, produced by the jew, that has a church-group portrayed in it, has the pastor character calling his congregation “a flock“.

Can you imagine those early White Crusaders who carried swords and battle-axes and who were hell-bent on killing every stinking jew in Europe, referring to themselves as sheep? Never happened..............Because the early Christians knew their Bible backwards and forwards and the NT told them that jews were the ones who killed their god, Jesus. And to say that they hated the jews for that, would be an understandment.

To put this into perspective..............imagine a fiction novel about the ultimate battle between good and evil..........the first half of the novel gives us basic descriptions of the multitudes of characters and where they came from. It gives an outline of who the good guys and the bad guys are, with some entertaining poetry and pithy sayings thrown in, to keep the reading entertaining. It also tells the reader that the bad guys are winning the battle and promises that a good-guy leader will come sometime in the future to kick the bad guy’s ass.

And the second half of the novel tells the tale of the coming of the new leader of the good guys, who points out and tells everyone exactly who the bad guys are...........This angers the bad guys and they catch the good guy leader and kill him.

That’s the story of the Bible OT & NT in a nutshell.

What the jew has done to Christianity is much like what they’ve done to the original meaning of the Statue of Liberty. A jew woman, Lazarus, writes a shitty little poem, they place in on a bronze placard at the foot of the statue, and voila’......."The shining light of liberty" a gift, from our White Brothers from France all of a sudden becomes a welcome mat for the muds of the third world.

The early Christians had knowledge, not only from the Bible, but from actual Roman records that stated that it was jews who killed Jesus, who they believed was God, and they vowed revenge against the jews. They killed tens of thousands of jews all across Europe on their way to the Holy Land.

The Christian Crusaders also had a big problem with the new upstart religion called Islam, that around 600-700 AD took-over the homeland of their god. That’s what the Crusades were all about. Taking back the Holy Land for the glory of their god.

I am not a Biblical scholar, but as an educated guess, I’d imagine that the early Christians included the OT as part of their Bible so that they would be better able to identify the evil jew as their enemy.

My suggestion is, that we White Nationals might be better served trying to persuade White Christians to “get back to their roots” where they had an axe to grind against the jews rather then try to convince them that they believe in a fairy tale.

Maybe this is what Mel Gibson was trying to do?

The early Christians had knowledge, not only from the Bible, but from actual Roman records that stated that it was jews who killed Jesus, who they believed was God, and they vowed revenge against the jews. They killed tens of thousands of jews all across Europe on their way to the Holy Land.

This doesn't make sense. If Jesus didn't die then isn't his existence meaningless? Why are they pissed Jews killed Jesus? He was supposed to die for our sins, correct?



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[QUOTE=brutus]Can you imagine those early White Crusaders who carried swords and battle-axes and who were hell-bent on killing every stinking jew in Europe, referring to themselves as sheep? Never happened..............Because the early Christians knew their Bible backwards and forwards [/QUOTE]

I don't think so. It was against the law for anyone but authorized Bishops and priests to even own a bible back then. Disenfranchised peasants fought for their kings without a clue what they were fighting for. This is how christianity grew.

The Albigensian crusaders, especially, were just stealing land from the Cathars. They might have believed in "jesus" or maybe not, but their main concern was stealing land from other white men and killing them (This is the crusade that was against heretical French sectarians.)

As to Jesus and what color he was, the Knights Templar's thought he was a reincarnation of Osiris which means he could have looked like anything, since as a new incarnation he could have took any physical form he wanted.

The earliest representations of Jesus depict him as a blond Adonis type youth carrying a lamb. This was a very popular archetype in that era. It should be understood it was a Greek image, probably influenced by Pythagorian tradition. Pythagoras felt that "youth shall lead" and the very early depictions of JC fell right in line with that.

RE: Anima Eternae

This doesn't make sense. If Jesus didn't die then isn't his existence meaningless? Why are they pissed Jews killed Jesus? He was supposed to die for our sins, correct?

This is partially correct as the Christian creed and dogma explain..........but the fact that Jesus died by an execution murder and not by natural causes is the heart of the matter as well as the early Christian’s beef with the jews.

Imagine if you believed in a god, and he came to earth to teach you and your people the profoundest secrets of life, and then an identifiable and unrepentant group killed him in the prime of his life, wouldn’t you be slightly annoyed?

Must all sages die as martyrs for their message to be valid? Martyrdom came after the fact and the message of Jesus was most likely enhanced by that event, but had Jesus died from old age instead of murder, his message would have been just as valid to Christians who believed the creed and revered him as god. Was there really a necessity for Jesus to die on the cross for people to believe he was supernatural? Weren’t the miracles he performed enough evidence to pronounce him divine? Couldn’t he have risen from the dead after he died of a heart attack at the age of 85?

We’ll never know, because those damn jews killed him when he was only 33.

The early Christian Crusaders wanted righteous revenge, and they worked at it for centuries killing Christ-killer jews and any muslims who were squatters in their Holy Land.

You seem to have a basic understanding of the creed, haven't you ever wondered why the early Crusaders blamed only the jews, but held no grudge against the Romans and their descendents, the Italians, who also participated in the crucifixion?

[QUOTE=brutus]
We’ll never know, because those damn jews killed him when he was only 33.
[/QUOTE]


There's that number that number again....... 33. The jews just love that number dont they? And the number 13 too. They sneek it into everything as a signal. The jewboys are big on symbols, most corporate logo's have an illuminati symbol cleverly hidden in the design.


The christians single handedly erased our past when they burned down the library at Alexandria. We are a lost Aryan people because of this. Knowlege of the million year old history of the world has been forever lost because of the christ-insanes. They now tell us humans are only 10 or so thousand years old, what a crock.

RE:FranzJoseph

I don't think so. It was against the law for anyone but authorized Bishops and priests to even own a bible back then. Disenfranchised peasants fought for their kings without a clue what they were fighting for. This is how christianity grew.
This is a half truth.........those nobles and bishops who led and financed the various Crusades were well versed in the Bible. Those that they led into battle, of course, were the uneducated and illiterate commoner.


The Albigensian crusaders, especially, were just stealing land from the Cathars. They might have believed in "jesus" or maybe not, but their main concern was stealing land from other white men and killing them (This is the crusade that was against heretical French sectarians.)
As with any war there were mercenaries with selfish interests, but by pointing-out the insignificant exception of crusaders stealing land from White men leads me to believe that you have been dipping into the jew’s revised historical accounts of the crusades and regurgitating them on a WN post board.


As to Jesus and what color he was, the Knights Templar's thought he was a reincarnation of Osiris which means he could have looked like anything, since as a new incarnation he could have took any physical form he wanted.
In the early 1300’s, the Inquisitors hammered away at the Templars with trumped-up and bogus charges and accusations of heresy. These were meaningless slurs against the Templar Knights and ultimately proved false.


The earliest representations of Jesus depict him as a blond Adonis type youth carrying a lamb.
Because of those early representations, is why so many Christians feel that Jesus must have been a White man.

[QUOTE=brutus]
As with any war there were mercenaries with selfish interests, but by pointing-out the insignificant exception of crusaders stealing land from White men leads me to believe that you have been dipping into the jew’s revised historical accounts of the crusades and regurgitating them on a WN post board.[/QUOTE]

No, not the "jew's revised", the real pagan version. And why would anyone consider the genocide against the white Albigensians "insiginificant?" Destroying a white folk is not insignificant.

Christianity spread in the first place by dividing whites into various sects and letting them scream "heretic" at each other. As a killing strategy it worked (100,000 dead in Constantinople alone over reincarnation.)

The "crusades" were more of the same. How many crusaders went off to fight in the worthless holy land and came home to find themselves pushed off their own land by local barons and priests? How many got killed outright for useless Levantine dirt?

And since Pope George's crusade is working the same magic right now, why not assume that christianity really is a ruse to both steal from and kill white folks?

[QUOTE=FranzJoseph]No, not the "jew's revised", the real pagan version. And why would anyone consider the genocide against the white Albigensians "insiginificant?" Destroying a white folk is not insignificant.
[/QUOTE]
The same reason someone would consider killing two elderly [SIZE=3]WHITE[/SIZE] Christians insignificant. Or the same reason anyone would get their jollies by laughing at the slaughter of two elderly white folks trying to make a living.

RE: FranzJoseph

The "crusades" were more of the same. How many crusaders went off to fight in the worthless holy land and came home to find themselves pushed off their own land by local barons and priests? How many got killed outright for useless Levantine dirt?

I am responding to this portion of your post only, as it highlights massive misunderstanding of Medieval history to the greatest degree then do the other incorrect assertions in that post.

The Crusades is history’s epitome of “the lost cause”........and we as White Nationalists can relate to Nazi Germany in as much the same way. Does this make the causes unworthy of esteem? Come on, Brother........get with the program, you’re smarter then this.

I’ll give you a tip, source your work with historic texts printed prior to 1960.

RE: Colonel.Kurtz

Your last post is thought provoking and should prove to many that you have important things to say besides the snide remarks or insults.

If snide remarks and insults is the way you communicate, I’ll go with it.

On another thread I posted in the NEWS section an article about 9 year old girls who went to a church fair and came home with candy shaped like dicks. The fair was sponsored by a group of fags and transvestites and it turns-out the woman pastor of the church was also a lesbian.

That incident happened last weekend and there has been absolutely no backlash or concern from the Christian community in the area. No picketing or letters to the editors, nothing, every one’s quiet as a church mouse. A tacit approval? Who cares. Fuck it. A 9 year old girl has to learn about dicks someday, right? The pastor was a female so she couldn’t show the kids her dick like the rest of the pervert male pastors do on a routine basis.

Why didn’t the mother go over to the fair and “kick over the tables” where they were selling the dick candy? (what would Jesus do?) All she did was call the cops to go the fair with her. The pastor and the fags called the mother a liar and said that the kid stole the candy. The cop told the mother tough shit. He was probably sucking on a piece of the dick candy when he told the mother that their was nothing the police could do.

It is incidents like this that have made me turn my back on organized religion. What’s the point of “being an adherent” when the pastor is handing-out dick candy to 9 year olds? You might as well go down to the adult bookstore and stick your dick through a glory hole and say the Our Father Prayer............there is no difference.

I cannot defend the indefensible.

Considering that and to address your rhetorical statement :

“I can't imagine what sort of filth our xtian "leaders" will be pushing in future generations...........”

All I can say is, neither can I.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] Is xtianity really worth saving, over and above the race? [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Why does it always have to be a choice “Christianity or Race”? I am a Christian and a racist. It is the heathen trying to force us to choose rather than Christians trying to force the heathen to convert.

Nowhere does the bible say
I can’t marry white
I can’t live around white people
I can’t patronize white businesses
I can’t worship with white people
I can’t be proud of my heritage and skin


Now where is the contradiction and where is the choice. I am a Christian and a racist. I really could care the least what a bunch of usernames on a computer monitor tell me.

I defy you to come to Princeton WVA and show one thing I have done to harm the white race. I can show you many thing racists pagan/atheist leaders have done to harm the white race.

I don’t care what people did a thousand years ago or what they will do a thousand years from now. Save the history lesson for someone that cares, my main concern is what I can do to make the white race better now. Teach people how to be saved, from Hellfire, non-white invasion and self-destruction. If you can’t get with that program then that is your tough luck.


Good day Sir,

Sean Martin

Fighting for Race, Religion and Community

[QUOTE=brutus]The Crusades is history’s epitome of “the lost cause”.........[/QUOTE]

But we are in complete agreement here.

Europe lost; we sent our best to die in a vile land and allowed Oriental modes of thinking to enter Europe. If the popes wanted to kill whites, they scored a bullseye.

The worst of the damage was conceptual. The Holy Land is the European homeland, and pretending it was ever somewhere else is corrupting to the white soul.

[QUOTE=FranzJoseph]But we are in complete agreement here.

Europe lost; we sent our best to die in a vile land and allowed Oriental modes of thinking to enter Europe. If the popes wanted to kill whites, they scored a bullseye.

The worst of the damage was conceptual. The Holy Land is the European homeland, and pretending it was ever somewhere else is corrupting to the white soul.[/QUOTE]
And that has "what" to do with the non-white invasion of the USA again?

You know the one brought on by the Jews and greedy whites that worship money instead of Christianity.

This is all fine and dandy but really discussion about 500 year old crusades accomplishes what for the white race again?

Does anyone here honestly think that all this philosophizing about history is going to take our country back? It may seem nice for the think tank but unless people are active in their community and teach as many people as possible to be not only racially conscience (I believe the majority of whites are racially conscience already) but to care enough about their race to become active also, you might as well get used to speaking Spanish.

BTW why are you mentioning soul, isn’t that a Christian form of thought? Stop adopting our religious beliefs. It is all or nothing there Junior.

Sean (Prove I Lied) Martin is too damned dense to know when his childish interruptions are being ignored.

Useful information for the conceptually challenged:

...Most people and all religions share the conviction that the Soul as man's essential nature is able to survive the body since it is in essence immaterial consciousness or awareness... the origin of the teaching tells of the immortal soul in "pagan" Greek philosophy, even so the origin of that teaching goes back to Indian philosophy where the soul is called the jiva...

Jesus was a jew plain and simple and a dirty one at that. I don't think a "devine one" would have christianity run rampant and have whites killing each other for religion.

As the country goes more jewish, fewer people will be considered jews.


HA!HA!HA!HA!

Intrepid, do you really pick up wetback laborers at home depot? What do you do with them when you're done with them? Take them to one of the properties your parents own? That are only rentals, not like anyone lives there. Sounds like you and your parents are directly contributing to the downward spiral that has caused White flight in the area.
I hope, for your sake, they don't decide to get paid BEFORE the work, and they don't get drunk with that tax-free cash and rape a female member of your family. That would be tragic. As long as it happens to someone else, you've got no problem, eh?

[QUOTE=Whirlwind]Intrepid, do you really pick up wetback laborers at home depot? What do you do with them when you're done with them? Take them to one of the properties your parents own? That are only rentals, not like anyone lives there. Sounds like you and your parents are directly contributing to the downward spiral that has caused White flight in the area.
I hope, for your sake, they don't decide to get paid BEFORE the work, and they don't get drunk with that tax-free cash and rape a female member of your family. That would be tragic. As long as it happens to someone else, you've got no problem, eh?[/QUOTE]

Certain areas of SoCal are virtually brown & yellow now. My parents haven't contributed to this phenomenon whatsoever. Any claim contrary to this belies a fool. When I was a child many of these areas were not like this. Fact is, no matter what anyone spews forth on this forum, it isn't going to make these once-White neighborhoods White, again. Also, the concept of White manual labor is virtually non-existent in many of these towns & communities. Quite frankly, they - White men - are not, for the large part, even there to work. It's actually rare that this Home Depot-type labor is used, at least on my parent's property. Her properties, contrary to the screeching/fabricating "Colonel," are well-kept. Personally, I'm not up on the day-to-day specifics, as I've lived out of California for some time now.

If you, like other extremely challenged forum members have suggested, would recommend the units should be left empty, rather than be rented to Asians & Mexicans, I can't help you. That is, bankruptcy isn't a viable option for most sane individuals.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz]Originally Posted by Whirlwind
Intrepid, do you really pick up wetback laborers at home depot? What do you do with them when you're done with them? Take them to one of the properties your parents own? That are only rentals, not like anyone lives there. Sounds like you and your parents are directly contributing to the downward spiral that has caused White flight in the area.
I hope, for your sake, they don't decide to get paid BEFORE the work, and they don't get drunk with that tax-free cash and rape a female member of your family. That would be tragic. As long as it happens to someone else, you've got no problem, eh?




[SIZE=2] Translation:
"Yes, I, race-traitor Decrepit, have, on many occasions, knowingly and actively sought out cheap and illegal spic laborers instead of seeking out decent White workers because I was raised by cheap, greedy, slumlord parents. They taught me to never offer a decent wage to fellow Whites who may actually need the money to live and remain in southern California. No, as your typical rich bastard, I was taught to be as cheap as possible when it came to my own race, and to prefer instead to enrich the enemies of my race and even provide cheap housing for them, at taxpayers' expense, of course. Besides, since I live nowhere near southern California, I could give a flying fuck whether my parents are surrounded by illegal aliens or whether high-priced White help finds work. I'll be damned if I have to spend one dime more than is necessary to do "brain-dead maintenance work" on my parents slum projects. After all, there are no Whites whatsoever in southern California, and if you don't believe me, then you must be a Marxist, Communist scumbag. And so, as my mother's slums are in the very midst of brown scum and all her tenants are all Section 8 scum, you can just imagine the run-down, awful mess these spics make out of our rebtal properties. That's why I don't even bother to look for or hire decent White help, it just isn't worth spending good money trying to fix this god-awful mess, the muds will only destroy it again within the month, just like the niggers do. Don't listen to sensible Whites here on VNNF who want me to leave the slum units empty, the government assisted rent payments are just too sweet, and have actually paid for not only my entire upbringing (and in style, I might add) but my college education and grad school to boot. And yes, I eagerly look forward to the day when mommy hands down the "family business" to me, after all, I've grown accustomed to living in high style, why should I quit now just because the rest of you so-called White Nationalists are such poor bastards, hahahaha. I could never imagine declaring bankruptcy, why, that would mean that I might be regarded as a failure in my rich buddies' eyes, no that's simply out of the question. Yes, I'm quite pleased to be counted among other famous slumlords like my jewish pal Leona Helmsley and rightly believe, like her, that "only the little people pay taxes". You know, like you "guys", hahahaha. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Keep typing, Colonel Jobberknowle. I'm sure others are enchanted with your literary efforts. :rolleyes:

Have a nice evening with your cheap beer, porn mags & rodents in your charming little hovel, though.

All the best,

Intrepid

[QUOTE=Intrepid]Keep typing, Have a nice evening with your cheap beer, porn mags & rodents in your charming little hovel, though.

All the best,

Intrepid[/QUOTE]



Hey, there is nothing wrong with cheap beer, or having a few nice rodent pets. :D

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[SIZE=2] Yeah, you tell 'em HG, after all, you should know. Harharhar. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]


I was just trying to tell him that the rats, that you are forced to share space with are "pets" A place that doesn't have a bathtub is sure to come with built in "pets" of all kinds.

Jesus was a jew. Then his tribe offed him. After that he rose from the dead, according to the scriptures.

So, technically speaking, he's a jewish zombie.

http://www.flyingbuffalo.com/gifs/zombie.jpg

Happy Halloween suckers!

I am appalled. So it went like this: my folks bought up the neighborhood when it was going brown/cheap, with their nice White wages. Upon realizing the neighborhood they bought was no longer White, and the value was plummeting, they figured the only way to make their "investment" pay was to rent to whoever remained.
I am sure this is a story often repeated. The plight shared by those Whites at the tail end of White Flight.
Covered by an old Pennsylvania Dutch (German) saying: too soon old, too late smart.
You see the bigger picture, so what would you do with it if you inherited it tomorrow?

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] Unlike you and your "charming little hovel", I own my "charming little hovel". Again, I'm real sorry about your mortgage and your interest payments to jew bankers, poor little rich boy, harharhar. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Touche', Herr 'Tard. Let me guess: you, like the old Jewish goat, paid for it outright, eh? I imagine you've never, ever taken out a loan, eh? Never used a bank? Harharharharharharhar..... I wonder if they make them any dumber?

What a fuggin' Marxist smuck!

[QUOTE=Whirlwind]I am appalled. So it went like this: my folks bought up the neighborhood when it was going brown/cheap, with their nice White wages. Upon realizing the neighborhood they bought was no longer White, and the value was plummeting, they figured the only way to make their "investment" pay was to rent to whoever remained.
I am sure this is a story often repeated. The plight shared by those Whites at the tail end of White Flight.
Covered by an old Pennsylvania Dutch (German) saying: too soon old, too late smart.
You see the bigger picture, so what would you do with it if you inherited it tomorrow?[/QUOTE]

No, Sir. Your statements are full of misconceptions. Whether is was your intention to be "smart" or not, I'll attempt to respond to your question a bit: The areas in question have been "brown" for quite some time. The areas were never that highly valued to begin with. I could be wrong, but I don't recall any plummeting value, per se. But, yes, the properties are an Investment, as you inferred.

As far as your query of what I would do with them if I inherited it (lest I give fodder to the retarded, stalking "Colonel"): To be honest, I haven't thought about much. While I share your disdain for the concept of White flight - as I've seen entire areas of SoCal changed for the worse, & I'm sickened by the fact - I don't know. I'd prefer to sell them, but I'd have to look at the tax consequences. California, all in all, is becoming a brown socialist hell-hole that I'd prefer never deal with again. However, in reality, they're not mine. So any thoughts on the subject are purely hypothetical, of course.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz]Originally Posted by Colonel.Kurtz
"Unlike you and your "charming little hovel", I own my "charming little hovel". Again, I'm real sorry about your mortgage and your interest payments to jew bankers, poor little rich boy, harharhar. "




[SIZE=2] Uh-oh, do I detect a bit of Marxist envy, Mr. MortgageSlave? Hahahahahaha. Poor little spoiled rich boy, harharhar. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Colonel Mentally Mangled,

I repeat:

1.) Let me guess: you, like the old Jewish goat, paid for it (edit: your hovel) outright, eh?

2.) I imagine you've never, ever taken out a loan, eh?

3.) Never used a bank?

Do tell. Perhaps some of the unlobotomized VNNers might like to know how you've magically acquired a home without the use of a bank. Could it be... a Miracle? Harharharhar...

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz]Originally Posted by Colonel.Kurtz
"Unlike you and your "charming little hovel", I own my "charming little hovel". Again, I'm real sorry about your mortgage and your interest payments to jew bankers, poor little rich boy, harharhar. "

Uh-oh, do I detect a bit of Marxist envy, Mr. MortgageSlave? Hahahahahaha. Poor little spoiled rich boy, harharhar




[SIZE=2] Hey Decrepit here's a riddle just for you: How do you keep a Pollock in suspense?
Answer: Keep guessing!!!
Harharhar!!!! [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

I see, Colonel von Braun. No doubt the brilliant retorts of, "I know you are, but what am I..." or, "I'm rubber, you're glue" will be far behind. :rolleyes:

I repeat, again:

1.) Let me guess: you, like the old Jewish goat, paid for it (edit: your hovel) outright, eh?

2.) I imagine you've never, ever taken out a loan, eh?

3.) Never used a bank?

Do tell. Perhaps some of the unlobotomized VNNers might like to know how you've magically acquired a home without the use of a bank. Could it be... a Miracle? Harharharhar...

. BTW, whatever happened to your little goofy xtian pal HG, who always seemed to be coming to your rescue? Do you think she finally realized she was supporting a losing cause and quickly abandoned you?



I just don't see much reason to continue with you. Your posts are getting quite boring and repetitive.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz]Quote:
1.) Let me guess: you, like the old Jewish goat, paid for it (edit: your hovel) outright, eh?

2.) I imagine you've never, ever taken out a loan, eh?

3.) Never used a bank?

Do tell. Perhaps some of the unlobotomized VNNers might like to know how you've magically acquired a home without the use of a bank. Could it be... a Miracle? Harharharhar...

[SIZE=2] Excellent, he actually took the bait. OK, Decrepit, that makes three consecutive inquiries about my "charming little hovel", so, I will assume you are serious. (And now the trap closes on the unwary little idiot). Praytell the good Volk here on VNNF why a poor little spoiled rich kid like you, Mr. MortgageSlave, is so suddenly interested in a "roach-infested, strewn with porn mags and cheap-beer" (as you insist) hovel without a bathtub? Could it be, perhaps, that your little hovel leaves you with Marxist envy for mine? Hahahahahahahaha. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Let's burn a few of the precious brain cells you've remaining, Colonel. Okay?

Are you afraid of answering my queries of your magical acquistion of your hovel?

Did Odin give it to you, Klink?

Did you find it in the woods abandoned?

Did you finally empty your piggy bank?

Just how did the 7/11 clerk get himself a Fleetwood without that "Jew" bank involved?

Hmm....

Fifth time is a charm, Katz:

1.) Let me guess: you, like the old Jewish goat, paid for it (edit: your hovel) outright, eh?

2.) I imagine you've never, ever taken out a loan, eh?

3.) Never used a bank?

Do tell. Perhaps some of the unlobotomized VNNers might like to know how you've magically acquired a home without the use of a bank. Could it be... a Miracle? Harharharhar...

I'm not taking sides in this slug fest, I'm content to eat popcorn and watch from the bleachers.

But I will note this comment:

......."provide housing (and probably at taxpayer assisted rates) to thousands of ever-multiplying spics and niggers."

This is the reason why, way back in the early 1970s, we got out of the multi-unit real estate management/ownership business...............The first reason was the discrimination laws were changed and enforced and secondly because we couldn't morally justify the money, nor did I personally have the stomach for the perpetual renovation and destruction cycle of the units at the hands of the animals. That career gave my racist attitude the firm and deep foundation of bedrock that it has today.

BTW, this industry is where the jew thrives, just like the roaches and rats that inhabit their tenement hellholes.

Developing new upscale housing and new commercial real estate for Whites has been so much more rewarding. IMO, It’s the only way to go, for Whites who want to be in this business.

[QUOTE=Keystone]Does your priest know you talk like that? :eek: John Paul II finds the jews pretty much copacetic. You use "Christ" as a sort of archetypical voodoo doll against jews, but in reality he was a jew in every respect---even his Gospel- inspired human half was said to be descended from the Davidic line of kings. Pretty damn jewish, there. How can you even keep up appearances when most posters here and Linder himself have about as much respect for Christ and Christians as they do for crumbs under your sofa cushions. You're not even that slippery anymore.[/QUOTE]

Hey Gimp, did you come back for another whipping?

Tell me. Are you:

a- a kike? Kikestein?
b- a pathetic has been White mongrel from Philly, low on your blood sugar so you are temporarily mentally incapacitated to come back here and fuck with us again, tacking a short break from pissing away your meager savings on pull tab gambling in a drunken stupor with your old navy buddies down at the cinderblock VFW post? bragging about how you hang with the racists, for fun?

When I need a sorry old fucker like you to give me theology lesson I will be a freakin veg in need of unplugging. Get over yourself. I still think you are a fucking kike. Only a kike would be anything but embarassed by Karol Wojtyla's abject and slavish bootlicking of the Judes. I dont know a single Catholic that has ever said anything good to me about that. That is what some jackass of a rapture bunny puts on the back of his car, Jewish carpenter and all that.

I wont explain myself for the hundredth time you fucking weasel. SLither on back under a rock Judas. The Jews have thirty shekels waiting for you in hell.

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[QUOTE=Cracker oftheWhip]Jesus was not a Jew (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm)[font=Arial]Benjamin H. Freedman, Jewish Historian - Researcher - Scholar.[/font]
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http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/ is a good site also check out www.av1611.org.

They have a college in Kentucky I would like to attend some day. I am not Baptist but they have some excellent material on the afterlife and the difference between translations.

Even thought I don’t agree with about 30% of their doctrine they are certainly worth checking into.

James Melton is involved with them and he is fairly sharp also but he hates the Church of Christ. So I count him among the heathen.

[QUOTE=hitler goddess]That is the problem with people like you. There is something seriously wrong if you dislike white christians more then you dislike Jews. I do not feel a need to even continue this conversation, Colonel Goldberg.[/QUOTE]

HAHA Colonel Goldberg!! Hey HG, People like Colonel Klutz and Aryan boy and Invisible penis, they aren't interested in unity or working together, they are only interested in doing the work of the jew. The Jews hate Christians, not Odinists or atheists. Remember that and don't even reply back to these losers.

VNN's motto should be:

"No Christians, Just right"

Might as well be anyway.

[QUOTE=VONBLUVENS]VNN's motto should be:

"No Christians, Just right"

Might as well be anyway.[/QUOTE]
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[SIZE=6]BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!![/SIZE]

[QUOTE=Anima Eternae].............
Science and religion are like oil and water.
...[/QUOTE]

I thought you said you were a junior or something because you sound like a freshman. You should have learned in philosopy 101 the following:

1) science is a practical methodology that employs logic.
2) the logic is based on certain premises which are taken as presumed or axiomatic
3) if the presumptions are erroneous, the conclusions may be true or false, but they are not certainly true.

In fact, the "science" of the west emerges from a worldview of Christianity that is the fusion of Greek philosophy and metaphysics which, like it or not, was more compatible with the notion of an invisible monotheistic God than a pantheon of deitys frolicking on Mt Olympus.

As Oswald Spengler explained * the "Faustian" west has a metaphysical viewpoint that is uniquely the product of both the Greco-Roman classical word view and the Semitic "Magian" world view. That is not true merely of Christianity-- it's also true of science.

In case you want to follow up on this theme, I recommend Thomas Kuhn's Structure of Scientific Revolutions. For all I know Kuhn is a kike but it's a good read in the history of science nonetheless especially for arrogant brats like our half-caste friend here who so resolutely BELIEVES in "science."

If you take that book in and want to follow up on some "anomolies" that exist under current scientific disciplines-- meaning factual data that suggest something contrary to the prevailing theories-- I recommend "Patterns of the Past" by Rupert Sheldrake which also explores the authors proposal of a new paradigm of metaphysics underlying science called "morphic resonance."

*this book I have often recommended and have probably just as often been ignored. I dont know that anyone here has read this cornerstone of German conservative revolutionary thought based on exposure at this forum-- but anyhow, the book is Decline of the West, it is significant and carried on about at length by Revilo Oliver and William Gayley Simpson, both atheists by the way, and Spengler was held in high regard by the Nazis. But what do I know am I not a self deluded Christling?