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heaven above
10-23-2004, 09:35 PM
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HENRY HEPBURN

09:00 - 23 October 2004

Scores of football hooligans from throughout the UK are intent on causing chaos on the day that the National Front plans to march in Aberdeen, according to Grampian Police.

Its findings effectively give councillors a way out of the Catch 22 situation they were in and could allow them to refuse permission for the march without putting their jobs on the line.

The force has learned that hooligans from the north-east and elsewhere plan to turn up for the march.

But the organiser of the proposed November 28 procession says that is "absolute nonsense".

The force contends that a rival march of objectors against the National Front would be "purely confrontational", and says the two marches need to start three hours apart if they are to be policed effectively.

The police comments are in a report to go before Aberdeen City Council's licensing committee on Monday.

Councillors were warned previously that they could not refuse permission for the march unless there was a legitimate public order concern. If they did so, they could lose their roles as councillors and be barred from serving in public office for five years.

The Grampian Police observations - the force cannot make a recommendation - would appear to give them legitimate grounds to turn the National Front application down.

The report points out that Andrew MacIntosh, organiser of a third proposed march by the anti-English Scottish Patriots, has died, meaning that application cannot proceed.

He killed himself in Craiginches hours before he was due in court on firearms charges linked with a security alert on the day Holyrood opened.

A council spokesman said: "Grampian Police has confirmed in its comments that it is in receipt of intelligence that suggests that a group of locally-based football hooligans, or casuals, intend showing support to the planned march. This would, it is believed, include plans to cause some sort of disturbance in the city centre if the procession is cancelled or postponed.

"The intelligence also indicates that they would be bolstered in number by similar groups from throughout the UK who frequently show support for the National Front."

Police also indicate that the National Front march would be less of a "family event" than the applicant, Dave MacDonald, originally suggested.

Mr MacDonald's initial insistence that only members of National Front Scotland would be involved has also proved misleading, as he has since stated in the organisation's magazine, The Flame, that the parade would be open to all, including National Front members from across the UK.

Grampian Police are said to be investigating a number of allegations that comments made by Mr MacDonald in the Press and Journal in August were racially motivated.

Yesterday he described the suggestion that football hooligans would be taking part in the National Front march as "absolute nonsense". Mr MacDonald added: "We've got no links whatsoever with football hooligans - we don't allow them in our party for a start."

The trades council march was described as "purely confrontational" in a police letter.

The trades council application was made in the name of Sultan Feroz. He said organisers had complied with every request of the police, even managing to get the 100 stewards required to monitor the planned procession of 1,000 people.

heaven above
10-23-2004, 09:36 PM
The police are as big a liars as the criminals today. :(

SouthCoastNationalist
10-23-2004, 09:44 PM
Bloody typical! Aberdeen would be a great place for an NF demo. I have spent a lot of time in that city, and am convinced there would be much local support. It is very anti English, so I doubt it would involve many English WN's. But the Scotts are just as pissed off with the non white invasions, let them get on with it!

White Dragon
10-23-2004, 11:18 PM
Nothing special here... just the coppers looking for an excuse to ban a perfectly legal political march and demonstration.

Par for the course :rolleyes:

heaven above
10-23-2004, 11:53 PM
It's all down to pensions with the Police.

They are as gutless as the rest, and even more so.

Pensions come first. More anon.

DSMRD
10-24-2004, 02:27 AM
[QUOTE=White Dragon]Nothing special here... just the coppers looking for an excuse to ban a perfectly legal political march and demonstration.

Par for the course :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Indeed, and nothing special about the media trying to whip up tensions in various groups and to get them to join in and thereby cause confusion and a good chance of a fracas.

Actually shame it’s so far away – might be a good laugh :D

White Dragon
10-25-2004, 08:47 PM
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Councillors in Aberdeen have voted unanimously to ban a National Front march in the city next month.
The city's licensing committee took legal advice in private before making the decision on Monday afternoon.

Earlier, members had heard a police report which said football casuals were planning to support the march, planned as a celebration of St Andrew's Day.

The Scottish Trades Union Congress and the Grampian Senior Citizens Forum had asked the council to reject the move.


The National Front's Dave MacDonald applied earlier in the year for a licence to hold the march on 28 November.

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