Now we see that the Jews are moaning about Iran:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20041022/ts_latimes/israelmayhaveiraninitssights [this link is also posted at VNN main page].

It should be noted that only one country in the Middle East has even come close to using nuclear weapons: Israel, in the Fall 1973 Middle East war. Israel almost used nukes against the Arabs in a non-nuke war.

So, let us ask: who is the real threat to peace in the Middle East?


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Main relevent points as I see them:

1. Iran's push for nukes is real.

2. I don't think airstrikes by Israel or the US could stop Iran's nuke program. Quote: "Iran's nuclear development sites are widely scattered, in many cases hidden underground and heavily fortified."

3. Economic sanctions and a US blockade could definitely be the stick in a stick/carrot approach, but I suspect that the world would not give us the required support. The world is already irked at our unilateral invasion of Iraq. Moreover, the economic carrot of such a plan would ultimately lead to a stronger Iran, with increased resources to develop nukes if it decided so in the future. That's the last thing the Jew wants.

4. The bottom line is that an invasion would be required to keep Iran permanently nukefree. Such an invasion would require US conscription. The cost of such an invasion and occupation, not to mention the political and possibly economic fallout both domestic and foreign, would be immense. There are also attendent risks of wider war and political upheaval in the US caused by conscription and economic stress.

For these reasons, I am guessing that ZOG will flinch. It already flinched in the battle of Faluja. There will be no invasion of Iran or even airstrikes. The Jews will simply learn to live with a nuclear Iran. This is actually good because it will tend to keep typical Jew arrogance and aggression in check for the time being.

[QUOTE=Franco]Now we see that the Jews are moaning about Iran:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20041022/ts_latimes/israelmayhaveiraninitssights [this link is also posted at VNN main page].

It should be noted that only one country in the Middle East has even come close to using nuclear weapons: Israel, in the Fall 1973 Middle East war. Israel almost used nukes against the Arabs in a non-nuke war.

So, let us ask: who is the real threat to peace in the Middle East?


http://www.rense.com/general30/down.htm




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The stakes are indeed high for Israel and for the US.

I think you are right. The US has about hit its limits with the war in Iraq. Anything bigger will force us out of our comfort zone and into a real war mode... and there just is not the broad-based public support for total war.

There are indeed many thousands of gullible but patriotic young white men who will continue to join the volunteer military... but a draft! It would be hard to impose this upon everyone when it is our government who keeps invading and occupying one foreign country after another without provocation. Plenty of people can see this today, but they don't make an issue out of it because there is no draft.

KC-135's and KC-10's from McGuire AFB, NJ have been shooting touch 'n' goes for 2 days now on a constant basis. These planes gas the bombers and fighters midair during operations. The last time I saw this much around the clock action in the area, the 'shock n awe' bombing lit up the jewtube a few days later. Iran soon?

My money says Iran is a go. If, IF, Dubya wins. If not, forget it.

The Zionists have decreed Iran must go: hence Dubya will likely win. And then American blood and money will do the dirty deeds to benefit Israel. It wong go badly provided Iran seeks into anarchy like Iraq. Jews especially Israelis are OK with anarchy in the Middle east. They thrive on it.

But there will be political fallout for Republicunts. They will be swept out of office in Congress, presidency, everything. Hillary will be president and a new era of Roosevelt scale Jewish and nonWhite influence will take over at all levels of government and the average White person will be more miserable than ever.

The best opportunity we have is to recruit, recruit, recruit. It hardly matters which way events turn, we can benefit from anything, we can spin anythng, provided we are alert and work hard and keep our eyes on the ball.

Action, organization, building assets resources and networks, is everything. The turn of events is not the decisive factor, it is our work based on will that will carry us to victory or in lack thereof, to oblivion.

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]My money says Iran is a go. If, IF, Dubya wins. If not, forget it.

The Zionists have decreed Iran must go: hence Dubya will likely win. And then American blood and money will do the dirty deeds to benefit Israel. It wong go badly provided Iran seeks into anarchy like Iraq. Jews especially Israelis are OK with anarchy in the Middle east. They thrive on it.

But there will be political fallout for Republicunts. They will be swept out of office in Congress, presidency, everything. Hillary will be president and a new era of Roosevelt scale Jewish and nonWhite influence will take over at all levels of government and the average White person will be more miserable than ever.[/QUOTE]So, if W wins, we have a friendly wager on the likelihood of war. What W has to do with it I can't imagine; I myself don't see aught of difference between Kohn and Bush on the middle east.

The kikes do want war, and they will try hard to get one. I will say this: if war does come, I think it will be only in the wake of another major terrorist strike on the US mainland. If such a strike happens, it'll be a pretty safe bet that our "reliable ally" had a hand in it: either by doing it or facilitating it or allowing it. I am not given to conspiracy theories, but this is something I really think the kikes would do. They are bound to push their luck too far one of these days.

Information Clearing House just published a long piece that says the US is getting lured into a trap over Iran. Hope it's fiction, but it's an interesting read.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7147.htm

Excerpt:

Iran: A Bridge too Far?

by Mark Gaffney...

...If a showdown over Iran develops in the coming months, the man who could hold the outcome in his hands will be thrust upon the world stage. That man, like him or hate him, is Russian President Vladimir Putin. He has been castigated severely in recent months for gathering too much political power to himself. But according to former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, who was interviewed on US television recently by David Brokaw, Putin has not imposed a tyranny upon Russia –– yet. Gorbachev thinks the jury is still out on Putin.

Perhaps, with this in mind, we should be asking whether Vladimir Putin is a serious student of history. If he is, then he surely recognizes that the deepening crisis in the Persian Gulf presents not only manifold dangers, but also opportunities. Be assured that the Russian leader has not forgotten the humiliating defeat Ronald Reagan inflicted upon the old Soviet state. (Have we Americans forgotten?) By the mid-1980s the Soviets were in Kabul, and had all but defeated the Mujahedeen. The Soviet Union appeared secure in its military occupation of Afghanistan. But then, in 1986, the first US Stinger missiles reached the hands of the Afghani resistance; and, quite suddenly, Soviet helicopter gunships and MiGs began dropping out of the skies like flaming stones. The tide swiftly turned, and by 1989 it was all over but the hand wringing and gnashing of teeth in the Kremlin. Defeated, the Soviets slunk back across the frontier. The whole world cheered the American Stingers, which had carried the day.

This very night, as he sips his cognac, what is Vladimir Putin thinking? Is he perhaps thinking about the perverse symmetries of history? If so, he may also be wondering (and discussing with his closest aides) how a truly great nation like the United States could be so blind and so stupid as to allow another state, i.e., Israel, to control its foreign policy, especially in a region as vital (and volatile) as the Mid-East. One can almost hear the Russians’ animated conversation:

“The Americans! What is the matter with them?”
“They simply cannot help themselves.”
“What idiots!”
“A nation as foolish as this deserves to be taught a lesson…”
“Yes! For their own good.”
“It must be a painful lesson, one they will never forget…”
“Are we agreed, then, comrades?”
“Let us teach our American friends a lesson about the limits of military power!”

Does anyone really believe that Vladimir Putin will hesitate to seize a most rare opportunity to change the course of history and, in the bargain, take his sweet revenge? Surely Putin understands the terrible dimensions of the trap into which the US has blundered, thanks to the Israelis and their neo-con supporters in Washington who lobbied so vociferously for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, against all friendly and expert advice, and who even now beat the drums of war against Iran. Would Putin be wrong to conclude that the US will never leave the region unless it is first defeated militarily? Should we blame him for deciding that Iran is “one bridge too far”?

If the US and Israel overreach, and the Iranians close the net with Russian anti-ship missiles, it will be a fearful symmetry, indeed....