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R MacDonald
10-26-2004, 03:11 PM
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Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

prozak
10-26-2004, 04:14 PM
I can't wait to indoctrinate my children in a Jewish religion so they can turn on my culture, and me, someday.

999
10-29-2004, 05:44 AM
The Bible is one of the most anti-jewish books in existance, as the judeo-christians would find out if they'd bother to read it.

AJ Balfour
10-29-2004, 06:50 PM
[QUOTE=PRxozak]I can't wait to indoctrinate my children in a Jewish religion so they can turn on my culture, and me, someday.[/QUOTE]Your "culture" IS a jewish (lower case "j", there) religion. It'z called "ATHEISM" a/k/a, "COMMUNISM"!

Regardless of religion (or lack thereof), your beautiful mind just may be enough of an impetus all by itself for your children to turn on you, though I suspect that you've been "turned on" by enough hallucinogenic substances at this point that you're only a few track marks away from being able to sire not a boy or a girl, but rather, an "it".

[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]This is the funniest thing I have read in awhile! LOL[/QUOTE]And probably the first and only thing, as well. :D

[QUOTE=999]The Bible is one of the most anti-jewish books in existance, as the judeo-christians would find out if they'd bother to read it.[/QUOTE]Amen. That'z because Jesus was NOT a jew! ;)

Bragi
10-29-2004, 07:03 PM
[QUOTE=AJ Balfour]Your "culture" IS a jewish (lower case "j", there) religion. It'z called [I]"ATHEISM"...[/QUOTE]

The lack of religion is not a religion. The fact that jews pretend to worship the father of the Christian god, whose name is Yhwh, Jehovah, yashuva, whatever, while in fact they are Atheists who don't believe in any god does not make them somehow like those who practice no religion at all and don't pretend to.

Atheism is not a belief system in the sense that there is something to believe. It is the lack of a belief. An atheist believes there is no God.

In fact, it's rather absurd to have to be categorized on the basis of whether or not you believe there's a man in the sky keeping an eye on the puny insignificant humans.

My point is that atheism is not something related in any way to jews. Beliefs mean nothing. It's just neurons firing off in your brain. You're all the same living organic matter in an indifferent universe and your life is just presence of mind, which will one day cease. Grow the fuck up you death-fearing coward religionists. Bunch of pussies, can't handle the fact that your life is going to end someday, and that the world will go on spinning for an eternity with or without your meaningless beliefs.

Bragi
10-29-2004, 07:10 PM
As for this bibble shit (that's what they call it), did anyone notice the spokesperson's last name: Hyman? Haven't met too many white folks with a surname that sounds like something you'd find in a vagina.

Looks to me like a posse of jews got together to fleece the flocks by issuing a new edition of the same old jew book. Wonder if Duc Nuttin will get himself a copy so as to keep up to date with all the latest developments in the gospel interpretations. Un-fucking-believable. Talk about culture of critique. Now we're looking at culture-of-bible-reinterpretation. Notice jews are incapable of creating anything. They simply take something and then shit all over it and then mark it up and pawn it off to christian loons.

Guess they're going to make it even more kosher, not to mention charging lemmings 129 bucks for something they can get for free in any motel room across the country. Stupid dumb christian bastards, they'll pay anything to have jew writers fuck them up the ass while destroying their minds as a bonus.

AJ Balfour
10-30-2004, 10:09 PM
[QUOTE=Bragi]The lack of religion is not a religion.[/QUOTE]From the New World Dictionary Of The American Language, 2nd College Edition, 1978:

religion, n. , 1. a) belief in a divine or superhuman power or powers to be obeyed and worshiped as the creators(s) and rulers(s) of the universe
[like the all powerful communist government, and more specifically, the HEAD of that all powerful government, whether it be Josef Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot or Robert Mugabe]
b) expression of such a belief in conduct and ritual [yes, like when they systematically slaughtered all who DIDN'T believe that as heads of their respective states, they were/are the only GODS anyone unfortunate enough to live and suffer under their respective tyrannies, was allowed to worship. Politics generally only covers the government, the state, or the political parties themselves, but at the level practiced by the above named murdering scumbags, you'd better believe that it then became a perverted form of religion.]
2. a) any specific system of belief, worship, conduct, etc., often involving a code of ethics and a philosophy {the Christian religion, the Buddhist religion, etc.} b) any system of beliefs, practices, ethical values, etc. resembling, suggestive of, or likened with such a system {humanism as a religion}.
[or one's strident belief that there is no God, and that those who do believe in Him are to blame for all of the world's ills and should be dealt with harshly, or even exterminated. On the basis of this dictionary's definitions, particularly #2, atheism in various forms, certainly qualifies, to at least a lesser extent, as a form of religion.]


[QUOTE=Bragi]The fact that jews pretend to worship the father of the Christian god, whose name is Yhwh, Jehovah, yashuva, whatever, while in fact they are Atheists who don't believe in any god does not make them somehow like those who practice no religion at all and don't pretend to.[/QUOTE]When those who "practice no religion at all and don't pretend to" unceasingly besmirch, belittle and attack the belief system of those with whom they disagree, in this case Christians, and with a single-minded determination which is quite similar in itz virulence to that of the atheistic jews, then yes, the White Atheists make themselves VERY MUCH like the judeo-atheists.

Madelyn Murray O'Hare certainly regarded her dedicated opposition to religion (read that, "Christianity") in America as a form of "religion", to the point that she was successful in completely removing the Lord's Prayer, along with any other manifestations of Christianity from the nation's public schools (and have public school students been better educated in the years since?). With the dominant religion of the White Man being so successfully attacked at that time, is it any wonder that Vati-kahn II helped to further erode Christianity two years later, along with that horrible "Civil Rights Act" becoming a reality during the same year, and the Supreme Court ruling against all state miscegenation laws two years after that? I guess it was just dumb, bad luck that that American universities started going downhill, what with student protests and riots at around that same time, eh? Is it any coincidence that abortion was legalized less than a decade hence as well? "Religion" means different things to different people. It'z no accident that during the period in history when our nation still stood on a solid, moral foundation, the nation was not only White, but largely Christian and RACIST as well. As soon as one attribute diminished, the others soon followed.

[QUOTE=Bragi]Atheism is not a belief system in the sense that there is something to believe. It is the lack of a belief.[/QUOTE]Wrong. If someone asks you if you believe that God exists, and you reply that you do not know, or do not have an opinion, that is a "lack of a belief". If someone asks you if you believe that God does not exist, and you reply that you do not know, or do not have an opinion, then again, that is a "lack of a belief". Remember, "zero" (0) is just as much of a number as is "12,525", "199", ".517", "88" or "14" because it expresses a numerical value just as the previous five also do.
[QUOTE=Bragi]An atheist believes there is no God.[/QUOTE]Ok. If an atheist believes there is no God, that is a tangible belief, as well as a bona fide opinion. Other than the example of a noncommital opinion which I illustrated above, there is no such thing as a lack of a belief. If you are a sentient human being, and you have an unimpaired brain with normally functioning synapses, and you have definite thoughts and opinions, then you have beliefs. The belief that there is no God (or gods) qualifies as a BELIEF. Atheism most definitely IS a single "belief", if not a complete belief system. They believe there is no god, that the existence of every single atom in the universe, as well as the way they coalesce, are merely examples of random happenstance with no intelligent forethought, design or purpose, and they ridicule and deride anyone else who DOES believe in God (well, at least those Atheists who populate the VNNF do). And there are Atheists on this forum who have expressed the opinion/belief that Christianity and Christians are the single biggest problems facing White Nationals today, or/and the world would be a better place if Christians were to be exterminated, again in much the same way Christians were by the judeo-atheists in communist Russia, Poland, and Hungary, and whose BELIEF SYSTEM they helped export to China where Chairman Mao proceeded to exterminate somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 million of his own people with his "lack of a belief" as well.

[QUOTE=Bragi]In fact, it's rather absurd to have to be categorized on the basis of whether or not you believe there's a man in the sky keeping an eye on the puny insignificant humans.[/QUOTE]I completely agree, and yet, the White Pagans and Atheists do this over and over again to White Christians on not only this forum, but others as well. However, I don't see the White Christians making issues of the belief systems of Pagans and Atheists in a similar fashion.

[QUOTE=Bragi]My point is that atheism is not something related in any way to jews.[/QUOTE]You wouldn't have said that had you lived in the Ukraine during the late '20s and early '30s. I guess there's no correlation between the diminution of Christianity over the last 40 years, and the concomitant increase in laws passed for the benefit of jews in the United States either, right? (http://www.rense.com/general58/sig.htm)

AJ Balfour
10-30-2004, 10:17 PM
[QUOTE=Bragi]Beliefs mean nothing. It's just neurons firing off in your brain. You're all the same living organic matter in an indifferent universe and your life is just presence of mind, which will one day cease. Grow the fuck up you death-fearing coward religionists. Bunch of pussies, can't handle the fact that your life is going to end someday, and that the world will go on spinning for an eternity with or without your meaningless beliefs.[/QUOTE]So Christians are "coward religionists" and a "bunch of pussies", eh? Nice. I have yet to log into this forum or any other WN forum to find Christians proselytizing to anybody, yet I frequently encounter a steady deluge of preemptive opprobrium and contumely in the form of childish and petulant attempts at wordplay eminating from posts by Atheists and Pagans against Christians. Can you imagine the rapturous euphoria the ACLUden, Southern Poverty Lawless Center and One Primates' Project must feel when their moles log onto White Nationalist forums and see WNs cutting each other off at the knees like that? "Morris the Katz" Dees, Abe Foxperson and that guy who calls himself "Schwartz" can all retire to Miami Beach tomorrow what with the competition you're giving them because you guys do their work better than they do!

After having listened to Pastor James Wickstrom for over a year, I don't believe I ever heard him ONCE criticize White Pagans or Atheists. The reason for this is that he's perspicacious enough to know that we're really all on the same side, fighting the same enemy, or at least, we're supposed to be! I know some of you really think that you're clever when you come up with lame attempts at word play along the lines of "jebew kikus", "dead jew on a stick", "christinsanity", etc., but the reason why you don't see the same bullshit katzapulting in the opposite direction is because most White Christians really don't give a bat's bung hole whether every WN believes in Jesus or not! It'z far more important to know that the White Atheists/Pagans are working WITH White Christians and not AGAINST us.

And BTW, if Christians are such "cowards and pussies", then why is it that the Pagans/Atheists constantly bitch, moan and whine about how many of your people were wiped out during antiquity by Christians (which I admit is an unfortunate fact of history). It doesn't say very much for the intestinal fortitude of your spiritual/ideological ancestors then, does it? On the one hand, Pagans/Atheists opine that Christians are a nopareil force of nature able to overwhelm and consume anything in their path, and on the other, the Christians are meek "cowards and pussies", who ironically and miraculously just happen to have had the stones to bring about the near extinction of all non-Christians. Well, which is it? Do you want to have it both ways?

It'z sort of like the juden and It'z-A-Fake: you can fire up your am radio and listen to various kikenvermin hosts kvetch about how poisecuted It'z-A-Fake is, and how that litter box in the Middle East is constantly fighting for itz survival and is on the eve of destruction because the wretched Palestinians want to push them into the sea, and then you can flip the dial and hear yet another hebe host gloat over how that shitty little country has soundly defeated the Arabs in every conflict (not entirely true, btw) which has broken out between them since 1948. So, is It'z-A-Fake the victim or the aggressor? Do the Pagans/Atheists consider Christians the victims or the aggressors? You can't have it both ways, gentlemen.

[QUOTE=Bragi]Grow the fuck up you death-fearing coward religionists.[/QUOTE]Hey Bragi, let me tell you something: I've put forth ample evidence of my facility for flames and insults in other parts of this forum, so trust me when I tell you that it would be sooo easy to come up with a cornucopia of insults and put downs for Pagans and Atheists in a fashion similar to what your people hurl tirelessly at Christians. But I, as well as most of the other Christians expressly avoid doing so. Why? Because we understand that as White Racialists, you're not the enemy, at least you're not supposed to be. Additionally, we're secure in and comfortable with who we are, along with our belief system, as well as our place in the world. Maybe if the Pagans and Atheists could find some way to reinforce their belief systems to a degree such that they would enjoy the same levels of self-respect as White Christians (and I DON'T mean the ERSATZ, i.e., JUDEO-Christians, either), maybe then the aggregate of the White Nationalist movement might just have a decent chance at defeating our jewniversal enemy.

In the Manheim translation of "Mein Kampf", on page 561, der Fuhrer said:

"In any case the Jew (sic) reached his desired goal: Catholics and Protestants wage a merry war with one another, and the mortal enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom laughs up his sleeve."

Uncle jewey laughs his kikenkeister off just as hard when White Pagans and White Atheists "wage a merry war with" White Christians. So please, listen to Adolph and don't play into the talons of the spawns of satan. It emboldens them and weakens us. ALL of us!

Lastly, I for one don't need to "grow the fuck up", Bragi, so why don't you take that tired, cliched platitude and serve it up to the man in the mirror instead, even though, unfortunately, I don't think he'z going to listen to you.

Bragi
10-31-2004, 12:08 AM
[QUOTE=AJ Balfour]So Christians are "coward religionists" and a "bunch of pussies", eh? Nice. I have yet to log into this forum or any other WN forum to find Christians proselytizing to anybody, yet I frequently encounter a steady deluge of preemptive opprobrium and contumely in the form of childish and petulant attempts at wordplay eminating from posts by Atheists and Pagans against Christians. Can you imagine the rapturous euphoria the ACLUden, Southern Poverty Lawless Center and One Primates' Project must feel when their moles log onto White Nationalist forums and see WNs cutting each other off at the knees like that? "Morris the Katz" Dees, Abe Foxperson and that guy who calls himself "Schwartz" can all retire to Miami Beach tomorrow what with the competition you're giving them because you guys do their work better than they do!

After having listened to Pastor James Wickstrom for over a year, I don't believe I ever heard him ONCE criticize White Pagans or Atheists. The reason for this is that he's perspicacious enough to know that we're really all on the same side, fighting the same enemy, or at least, we're supposed to be! I know some of you really think that you're clever when you come up with lame attempts at word play along the lines of "jebew kikus", "dead jew on a stick", "christinsanity", etc., but the reason why you don't see the same bullshit katzapulting in the opposite direction is because most White Christians really don't give a bat's bung hole whether every WN believes in Jesus or not! It'z far more important to know that the White Atheists/Pagans are working WITH White Christians and not AGAINST us.

And BTW, if Christians are such "cowards and pussies", then why is it that the Pagans/Atheists constantly bitch, moan and whine about how many of your people were wiped out during antiquity by Christians (which I admit is an unfortunate fact of history). It doesn't say very much for the intestinal fortitude of your spiritual/ideological ancestors then, does it? On the one hand, Pagans/Atheists opine that Christians are a nopareil force of nature able to overwhelm and consume anything in their path, and on the other, the Christians are meek "cowards and pussies", who ironically and miraculously just happen to have had the stones to bring about the near extinction of all non-Christians. Well, which is it? Do you want to have it both ways?

It'z sort of like the juden and It'z-A-Fake: you can fire up your am radio and listen to various kikenvermin hosts kvetch about how poisecuted It'z-A-Fake is, and how that litter box in the Middle East is constantly fighting for itz survival and is on the eve of destruction because the wretched Palestinians want to push them into the sea, and then you can flip the dial and hear yet another hebe host gloat over how that shitty little country has soundly defeated the Arabs in every conflict (not entirely true, btw) which has broken out between them since 1948. So, is It'z-A-Fake the victim or the aggressor? Do the Pagans/Atheists consider Christians the victims or the aggressors? You can't have it both ways, gentlemen.

Hey Bragi, let me tell you something: I've put forth ample evidence of my facility for flames and insults in other parts of this forum, so trust me when I tell you that it would be sooo easy to come up with a cornucopia of insults and put downs for Pagans and Atheists in a fashion similar to what your people hurl tirelessly at Christians. But I, as well as most of the other Christians expressly avoid doing so. Why? Because we understand that as White Racialists, you're not the enemy, at least you're not supposed to be. Additionally, we're secure in and comfortable with who we are, along with our belief system, as well as our place in the world. Maybe if the Pagans and Atheists could find some way to reinforce their belief systems to a degree such that they would enjoy the same levels of self-respect as White Christians (and I DON'T mean the ERSATZ, i.e., JUDEO-Christians, either), maybe then the aggregate of the White Nationalist movement might just have a decent chance at defeating our jewniversal enemy.

In the Manheim translation of "Mein Kampf", on page 561, der Fuhrer said:

"In any case the Jew (sic) reached his desired goal: Catholics and Protestants wage a merry war with one another, and the mortal enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom laughs up his sleeve."

Uncle jewey laughs his kikenkeister off just as hard when White Pagans and White Atheists "wage a merry war with" White Christians. So please, listen to Adolph and don't play into the talons of the spawns of satan. It emboldens them and weakens us. ALL of us!

Lastly, I for one don't need to "grow the fuck up", Bragi, so why don't you take that tired, cliched platitude and serve it up to the man in the mirror instead, even though, unfortunately, I don't think he'z going to listen to you.[/QUOTE]

I find your arguments sound and reasonable. Like most things, I'm bitching about the leadership, not the followers.

For instance, unions form to protect workers rights in the job place. It is the eternal dichotomy of management vs. workers, government vs. citizens, officers vs. soldiers, etc.

The control elements of Christianity are what disturb me. I've got no beef with the average Christian, as long as said person doesn't try to tell me that he or she is somehow ordained and special because he or she is a worshipper of the Christ Jesus. The church leadership is an enemy of white survival.

I recognize that Christianity is fundamental to Western Civilization. I also realize that I can be flippant and over-simplistic when I make posts here on VNNF. The current policies of the Christian church are highly detrimental to the health and well being of the white race. This is indisputable. Christianity, like the other two semitic religions, is not, in it's current manifestation, something that whites should follow. It may once again (as I've said before) become something that is good and beneficial to white folks.

You cited Hitler's comments on Protestants vs. Catholics. The jew brought us both. Religion is unnecessary in the modern world. At some point religion was used as an "explanation" for that which our forebears could not explain.

Now we as a species know that the Earth is billions of years old and that the sun is the source of all life, with some help from massive oceans and a copious amount of water. The Bible makes no sense. It is a jewish tale, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

I respect your views AJ but I'm tired of Christians and I'm tired of their pious, holier than thou, all knowing egotism. Atheism and paganism are not established monoliths that extort money in exchange for saved souls. Atheists and pagans have very little to no say in culture and society. We are the have nots while the Christians and the jews are the have alots. Big difference when looked at through the lens of history and civilization. Atheists have nothing to push on people and we don't pass out collection plates and build monuments to our beliefs. Pagans don't proselytize and preach about hell and damnation to those who disagree with them. Big difference.

As for eternal life, I don't want it and I don't need it. As for a soul, I don't want one and don't need one. As for worshipping a 2 thousand year old dead jew, no thanks. You can twist and turn your words all yo want, but I prefer to rely on my 5 senses and the flesh and bone of my body. Religion be damned. I ain't scared of death an don't need any rhapsody of words to comfort me about it. Keep your cross and keep your useless beliefs.

As Linder says "Why be a Christian when you can be a man?"

Enough with it. Christians are jews in spirit because the jews gave us Christianity. It was their penultimate trojan horse. Destroyer of white souls.

AJ Balfour
10-31-2004, 07:33 PM
[QUOTE=Bragi]I respect your views AJ but I'm tired of Christians and I'm tired of their pious, holier than thou, all knowing egotism. Atheism and paganism are not established monoliths that extort money in exchange for saved souls. Atheists and pagans have very little to no say in culture and society. We are the have nots while the Christians and the jews are the have alots. Big difference when looked at through the lens of history and civilization. Atheists have nothing to push on people and we don't pass out collection plates and build monuments to our beliefs. Pagans don't proselytize and preach about hell and damnation to those who disagree with them.[/QUOTE]Neither do Christian White Nationalists or followers of Christian Identity.

[QUOTE=Bragi]As Linder says "Why be a Christian when you can be a man?"[/QUOTE]"Atheists are neither," is a tempting response, however, for reasons stated in my previous post (much of which you've ignored), I'm not willing to go that far.

[QUOTE=Bragi]Enough with it. Christians are jews in spirit because the jews gave us Christianity.[/QUOTE]Yeah, every Friday evening Pastor Richard Butler used to dance a mean hora while humming Hava Nagila, just like Pastors Wickstrom, Jones and Deigle, right? :rolleyes: Enough with it. God gave us Christianity. Christians are Christians, jews are the liars, thieves and murderers of John 8:44, and the two are as different as night and day. As for the canard that "Jesus was a jew", that'z a piece of imbecility which has been thoroughly debunked enough times in other parts of this forum for me to feel the need to do so again.

Bragi, I promise you that NOBODY here is trying to convert you (also covered in my previous post), and the predations of the phony, tax exempt 501c3 "Church" are NOT representative of the TRUE Christian religion. Pat Robertstein, Jewey Falwell, Whore-al Roberts, as well as the sodomite episcopalian bishop Gene Robinson and their ilk are a thoroughly despicable and evil group of shabbos goyim shysters who disgust Christian White Nationalists every bit as much (possibly more) as they do you, so the bottom line here is : don't conflate us with them., and stop acting as though WE'RE your enemies and let'z work TOGETHER to do everything we can to oppose the real enemy: THE KIKENVERMIN! ;)

VONBLUVENS
11-02-2004, 09:07 PM
It takes a greater leap of faith to believe the atheist doctrine than it does to believe in God.

AJ made a VERY cogent point when he said most Jews are atheist. The same lying authors of the Holohoax are the geniuses that came up with atheism.

May you idiots die in your sins.

Stormer
11-03-2004, 11:19 AM
[QUOTE=Vlad]...is like believing the holocaust with faith.[/QUOTE]

It is a faith. HolyHoax.

www.holohoax.info