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Ryan S.
10-30-2004, 11:15 PM
I have been lurking around here and SF for a few months.
I sympathize with you all, because I know that the threat you feel from minority groups is very real to you all. I understand because some are substanciated, such as the Jew influence on the media.
A lot of anti's think and say that they are better than racialists because they "love" everyone. Although I am not a racialist, I don't think that automatically makes me a better person than you. Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too.
My point is, that although I sympathize with your position, I am very disturbed at some of the comments I see posted here. They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered. Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared.
What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?
Anima Eternae
10-31-2004, 01:03 AM
This is probably the most hardcore WN site in existence.
Take what you read, especially involving genocide and murder with a grain of salt. It's a place for venting.
...
Old White Goat
10-31-2004, 01:46 AM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.] They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered. Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared.
What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?[/QUOTE]
Would you save a cute baby tiger from drowning, feed him, take care of him till he got big and strong, then kept living with the tiger till he ate you for a snack? Cause thats exactly what your doing. Ask Roy, from Siegfried & Roy.
HoaxThis
10-31-2004, 07:58 AM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]I have been lurking around here and SF for a few months.
I sympathize with you all, because I know that the threat you feel from minority groups is very real to you all. I understand because some are substanciated, such as the Jew influence on the media.
A lot of anti's think and say that they are better than racialists because they "love" everyone. Although I am not a racialist, I don't think that automatically makes me a better person than you. Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too.
My point is, that although I sympathize with your position, I am very disturbed at some of the comments I see posted here. They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered. Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared.
What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?[/QUOTE]"....horrified and somewhat scared", you say? Tell ya' what there, Sport, why don't you check out what the Talmud has to say in regards to how jews should treat Gentiles - betcha it sends you scurrying under your bed faster than any cruel or derogatory remarks you may have seen posted on this board, or any other WN board for that matter. Their most learned sages consider us goyim to be "animals in human form, condemned to serve the jew day and night." If a jew murders another jew, he is to be called to account and punished accordingly. If he murders a Gentile, no action is to be taken against him - in fact, it's considered a righteous act ("Even the best of the goyim should be killed.") An adult male is permitted to have sex with little girls - as young as three years old. Jews are encouraged to fuck the goyim over in any business dealings. If a jew just so happens to find something of value another jew has lost, he is to return it. But if this money/property belongs to a goy.....yeah, you guessed it - all of a sudden it's finders-keepers. Gentile women are filthy sluts, and their men like nothing more than to have sex with animals. We're also condemned to boil in excrement for eternity. Look, I can sit here all morning pecking out little gems from that roll of asswipe, but I suggest that you personally examine what the 'Mud has to say in regards to its suggested treatment of its most despised enemies - anyone not of the Chosen Race. Venomous indeed.
And we have'nt even touched on the subject of Israeli treatment of Palestinian men, women, and children - have we?
BTW - you say you've been lurking here for several months? Have you only been reading posts, or have you checked out the links to various sites and articles VNNers put up. Sounds like you need to crank it up a notch and bury your nose in the occasional book or article suggested by this board's contributors.
Kievsky
10-31-2004, 08:23 AM
Primal Aryan-Speak
by Luke LaVellian
"It is natural to wish to eat your enemy"
-- Anthony Hopkins as Dr. Hannibal Lecter
..... Last night I rented "Hannibal" on DVD and while viewing this destined-to-be-classic film, I was struck by the cold, historically Aryan manner in which Dr. Lecter disposes of his victims. I actually highly recommend the film and would remind you to be sure to have a note-pad and pen handy.
..... I especially appreciated the "hit and run" stabbing in the street, as well as the wild throat-slashing of another pursuer, both of which were accomplished with an approximately three-inch folding knife. I am sure that you'll all love the hanging/disembowelment of the police detective who was out to collect the three million dollar bounty that is on the head of the good doctor. Truly great cinema! There are actually a lot of films that have stuff that we could learn from. Does anyone remember the scene in "Scarface" where the government informant is drop-hung out the side of a helicopter above the cartel-leader's palace?
..... As I was watching Hannibal "do his thing", it occurred to me how "primal" this behavior truly was. I was reminded of the many accounts I have read of sessions of bloody dismemberment and horror visited upon the enemies of our Aryan ancestors. I am sure when our Northern Barbarian forefathers had a defeated people lined up before the chopping block, that their mind-set was not one strictly of "business". No, I am quite certain that it was very pleasurable to them to separate the head from the body of a vanquished man, while the next in line was bug-eyed crazy awaiting "his turn".
.....What of expressions like -- "I'll rip your f'n face off!" Where do you suppose this comes from? I would submit that this is instinctual and represents race memories of what healthy, sane White men did to those who presented a threat to their community. The "taking of souls" via peeling the faces from off the skulls of the enemy- at one time this must have seemed, "science"!
..... Let us not forget one of my all-time faves -- "I'm going to tear his heart out!" This too, strikes me as primitive Aryan science. What could be more natural than to yank out that which is responsible for pumping the blood through the system that animates something that poses a danger to one's Folk?
..... Far from running from such a "horrific" heritage, we should look it squarely in the face until we accept that THIS was racial health, NOT what we (for the most part) are today. THIS represented our people's fitness for life, NOT the emasculated, butt-goy, "charitable" (read: contemptible cur) mentality that we see today. Does the "cosmopolitan", "enlightened" "tolerant" small w "white" of today, REALLY represent anything more than a species in self-imposed decline? In all reality, who is more historically Aryan, Jimmy Carter OR Hannibal Lecter? The next time you say something in anger that involves bodily dismemberment or the infliction of extreme pain, just realize that this is your Aryan blood crying out to be heard in a world that exalts its spiritual castrates and demonizes the sane.
--Luke LaVellian
.
"Remember, It's a ZOG eats dog world, so don't be one of their servile curs".--LL
Para
Ryan S.
10-31-2004, 08:46 AM
[QUOTE=HoaxThis]"....horrified and somewhat scared", you say? Tell ya' what there, Sport, why don't you check out what the Talmud has to say in regards to how jews should treat Gentiles - betcha it sends you scurrying under your bed faster than any cruel or derogatory remarks you may have seen posted on this board, or any other WN board for that matter. Their most learned sages consider us goyim to be "animals in human form, condemned to serve the jew day and night." If a jew murders another jew, he is to be called to account and punished accordingly. If he murders a Gentile, no action is to be taken against him - in fact, it's considered a righteous act ("Even the best of the goyim should be killed.") An adult male is permitted to have sex with little girls - as young as three years old. Jews are encouraged to fuck the goyim over in any business dealings. If a jew just so happens to find something of value another jew has lost, he is to return it. But if this money/property belongs to a goy.....yeah, you guessed it - all of a sudden it's finders-keepers. Gentile women are filthy sluts, and their men like nothing more than to have sex with animals. We're also condemned to boil in excrement for eternity. Look, I can sit here all morning pecking out little gems from that roll of asswipe, but I suggest that you personally examine what the 'Mud has to say in regards to its suggested treatment of its most despised enemies - anyone not of the Chosen Race. Venomous indeed.
And we have'nt even touched on the subject of Israeli treatment of Palestinian men, women, and children - have we?
BTW - you say you've been lurking here for several months? Have you only been reading posts, or have you checked out the links to various sites and articles VNNers put up. Sounds like you need to crank it up a notch and bury your nose in the occasional book or article suggested by this board's contributors.[/QUOTE]
If a dog scratched his ass, and ate his own vomit, would you? If you consider the Jews to be as such, why would you use their actions as justification for your own position?
To answer your last question, I have not followed links because I have only recently gotten a home computer. Before, I checked out posts on your message boards only because I was using my College's computer.
HoaxThis
10-31-2004, 10:39 AM
[QUOTE=Kievsky]
..... I especially appreciated the "hit and run" stabbing in the street[/QUOTE] Nasty stuff, eh? Just bought the dvd myself a couple weeks back. Loved that part - "He tried to get me in the balls, but he missed.....(gasp, spurt.....thud!)"
"What's it to be....bowels in, or bowels out? Perhaps you'll permit me to decide for you." - H. Lechter
kabinger
10-31-2004, 01:31 PM
[QUOTE=Kievsky]Primal Aryan-Speak
by Luke LaVellian
"It is natural to wish to eat your enemy"
-- Anthony Hopkins as Dr. Hannibal Lecter
..... Last night I rented "Hannibal" on DVD and while viewing this destined-to-be-classic film, I was struck by the cold, historically Aryan manner in which Dr. Lecter disposes of his victims. I actually highly recommend the film and would remind you to be sure to have a note-pad and pen handy.
..... I especially appreciated the "hit and run" stabbing in the street, as well as the wild throat-slashing of another pursuer, both of which were accomplished with an approximately three-inch folding knife. I am sure that you'll all love the hanging/disembowelment of the police detective who was out to collect the three million dollar bounty that is on the head of the good doctor. Truly great cinema! There are actually a lot of films that have stuff that we could learn from. Does anyone remember the scene in "Scarface" where the government informant is drop-hung out the side of a helicopter above the cartel-leader's palace?
..... As I was watching Hannibal "do his thing", it occurred to me how "primal" this behavior truly was. I was reminded of the many accounts I have read of sessions of bloody dismemberment and horror visited upon the enemies of our Aryan ancestors. I am sure when our Northern Barbarian forefathers had a defeated people lined up before the chopping block, that their mind-set was not one strictly of "business". No, I am quite certain that it was very pleasurable to them to separate the head from the body of a vanquished man, while the next in line was bug-eyed crazy awaiting "his turn".
.....What of expressions like -- "I'll rip your f'n face off!" Where do you suppose this comes from? I would submit that this is instinctual and represents race memories of what healthy, sane White men did to those who presented a threat to their community. The "taking of souls" via peeling the faces from off the skulls of the enemy- at one time this must have seemed, "science"!
..... Let us not forget one of my all-time faves -- "I'm going to tear his heart out!" This too, strikes me as primitive Aryan science. What could be more natural than to yank out that which is responsible for pumping the blood through the system that animates something that poses a danger to one's Folk?
..... Far from running from such a "horrific" heritage, we should look it squarely in the face until we accept that THIS was racial health, NOT what we (for the most part) are today. THIS represented our people's fitness for life, NOT the emasculated, butt-goy, "charitable" (read: contemptible cur) mentality that we see today. Does the "cosmopolitan", "enlightened" "tolerant" small w "white" of today, REALLY represent anything more than a species in self-imposed decline? In all reality, who is more historically Aryan, Jimmy Carter OR Hannibal Lecter? The next time you say something in anger that involves bodily dismemberment or the infliction of extreme pain, just realize that this is your Aryan blood crying out to be heard in a world that exalts its spiritual castrates and demonizes the sane.
--Luke LaVellian
.
"Remember, It's a ZOG eats dog world, so don't be one of their servile curs".--LL
Para[/QUOTE]
Exactly. This is our nature. By ruthlessness we reign with power.
If every Aryan had free reign, and was racially aware, we could solve this whole crises with a whole lot of death. Dead jews and dead minorities will never come back to haunt us.
hitler goddess
10-31-2004, 02:23 PM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]I have been lurking around here and SF for a few months.
I sympathize with you all, because I know that the threat you feel from minority groups is very real to you all. I understand because some are substanciated, such as the Jew influence on the media.
A lot of anti's think and say that they are better than racialists because they "love" everyone. Although I am not a racialist, I don't think that automatically makes me a better person than you. Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too.
My point is, that although I sympathize with your position, I am very disturbed at some of the comments I see posted here. They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered. Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared.
What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?[/QUOTE]
What "line" is it that anyone has crossed? What is wrong with being concerned ONLY with the survival of your own race? I did, also disagree with the people who said that they would abandon a mixed child that they fathered. But I think saying that someone who would, seems "not quite human" is a bit harsh. If someone abandons their child for any OTHER reason, does that make them more "human" in your eyes :confused:
HoaxThis
10-31-2004, 06:10 PM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]If a dog scratched his ass, and ate his own vomit, would you? If you consider the Jews to be as such, why would you use their actions as justification for your own position?
[/QUOTE]No comment - I just thought this jewel deserved a re-post. Thanks for showing me the error of my ways and putting me back on the straight-and-narrow, Ryan.
Hell Raising Woman
10-31-2004, 06:27 PM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]I have been lurking around here and SF for a few months.
I sympathize with you all, because I know that the threat you feel from minority groups is very real to you all. I understand because some are substanciated, such as the Jew influence on the media.
A lot of anti's think and say that they are better than racialists because they "love" everyone. Although I am not a racialist, I don't think that automatically makes me a better person than you. Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too.
My point is, that although I sympathize with your position, I am very disturbed at some of the comments I see posted here. They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered. Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared.
What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?[/QUOTE]
I can tell that you are very young and very much naïve about the world – about human nature that is. Human nature is about conflicts – who can out-do whom. There are two kinds of humans – one kind is for improving mankind, striving to better society and who are determined to improve life by honest means by any means necessary. The other worships greed & money, who are selfish and apathetic and who makes wars to fill the pockets of the rich by any means necessary – exploits the poor and the middle class – destroys a society by accepting certain rights of those who are less deserving, preaches that non-Whites are the same as Whites in every way and in the same breath allows atrocities against the host of a nation – Whites, just so they can move much further along than the host. These people are destroyers. They are destructive in every way. Their mission is to destroy the host nation so they can become richer, better, and more powerful. This is the only life they know. This is the only life they want. I ask you – who can these people be? Who are they? What are their names? Are they politicians? Are they influential multi-million dollar business owners? Are they a group of non-Whites? Are they a secret government society?
If you are a White person, wouldn’t you think that your survival is threatened by these destroyers? If you have children, wouldn’t you think that your ‘White’ children’s existence, your grandchildren’s existence, your great-grandchildren’s existence be threatened by these destroyers that permeate in this nation? Since these people are doing a fantastic job of destroying societies and pushing the White people out of existence by suppressing our rights to live freely and allowing non-whites to multiply like rabbits, wouldn’t you begin to think that you better start fighting? What is scarier - fighting for your own survival or be taken over by destroyers?
If you think we are scary, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
Hell Raising Woman
10-31-2004, 06:29 PM
[QUOTE=Anima Eternae]This is probably the most hardcore WN site in existence.
Take what you read, especially involving genocide and murder with a grain of salt. It's a place for venting.
...[/QUOTE]
You really think you know it all, eh asswipe? You are a typical non-White piece of shit who knows NOTHING!
[COLOR=DimGray]Posted by Ryan S
I have been lurking around here and SF for a few months.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=Red]I sympathize with you all, because I know that the threat you feel from minority groups is very real to you all.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=DimGray]I understand because some are substantiated, such as the Jew influence on the media.
A lot of antis think and say that they are better than racialists because they "love" everyone. Although I am not a racialist, I don't think that automatically makes me a better person than you.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=DimGray]My point is, that although I sympathize with your position, I am very disturbed at some of the comments I see posted here. They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=DimGray]What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?[/COLOR]
Ryan, I suggest that you keep a bit of that sympathy for yourself and your loved ones. Nobody is safe from the jew, not even innocents like you. Especially innocents like you. You obviously haven't had a moment of enlightenment yet, but when you do, I think you'll look back on this post and wonder how you could have been so naive.
Yet I think you're a bit more subtle than you seem to be. Your remark, "Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too." comes across as a thinly-disguised put-down of WNs. On the one hand, you seemed to be asking an innocent question about WNs, but on the other it is evident that you had already made up your mind about what motivates us. You're mistaken, by the way. One doesn't need to have an "authoritarian personality" in order to fight a threat to one's existence. One just needs courage and personal conviction. That's what you're reading at this forum, and it is not disturbing.
I'd suggest that you clear your mind of prejudices before you try to understand White Nationalism. I think you'll learn that you have no reason to be "horrifed and somewhat scared".
HoaxThis
10-31-2004, 07:35 PM
Yeah, I know, Sieg - he's almost as tough a challenge as Marky....
Can we get some real antis in here? Please!! :mad:
HoaxThis
10-31-2004, 09:11 PM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]If a dog scratched his ass, and ate his own vomit, would you? If you consider the Jews to be as such, why would you use their actions as justification for your own position?[/QUOTE]Aaaannnnd, one more time, for the road -
(Sorry, folks - this just kills me!! :D )
Draco
10-31-2004, 09:19 PM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]I have been lurking around here and SF for a few months.
I sympathize with you all, because I know that the threat you feel from minority groups is very real to you all. I understand because some are substanciated, such as the Jew influence on the media.
A lot of anti's think and say that they are better than racialists because they "love" everyone. Although I am not a racialist, I don't think that automatically makes me a better person than you. Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too.
My point is, that although I sympathize with your position, I am very disturbed at some of the comments I see posted here. They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered. Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared.
What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?[/QUOTE]
Racism formed in biological determinism(my particular "flavor" of it) requires a numerical advantage.
Logic rules me, not emotions.
The speeches, dissertations, and parades of say, 1930's Deutschland are all well and good, but they have to go simply because they are here, and in my living space.
I said I'd let the NW child drown, and I meant it.
They do grow up you know, and consume resources meant for the only race who deserves them, and has the will to fight for them.
Exterminance
11-01-2004, 05:54 AM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]My point is, that although I sympathize with your position, I am very disturbed at some of the comments I see posted here. They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered. Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared.
What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?[/QUOTE]
Perhaps you should expand your mind. I've been where you're at - easily horrified by the callousness towards the lives of other beings - but there are times when emotion serves no purpose other than to hinder you. Try approaching the same question out of pure, rational logic, without allowing your emotion to interfere:
If you saw a non-White child drowning, would saving him be a good idea?
Remember, this being exists for itself, as do all living beings by their most basic inherent nature. As a member of another race, but the same species as yourself, this being represents competition. Competition for living space, competition for resources; competition for survival.
Rescue the child, and it will grow big, take up space, consume resources, and do its bit to crowd you and your kin out of the picture.
Personally, I probably would save such a child from drowning, just as I'd be inclined to save a cat or a dog. But my having such an inclination does not make it the correct thing to do. The White race's tendency to exhibit compassion for aliens is one of our greatest flaws, and indeed a large part of the reason that we have allowed non-White immigrants to flood into our lands.
Anima Eternae
11-01-2004, 08:32 AM
[QUOTE=Hell Raising Woman]You really think you know it all, eh asswipe? You are a typical non-White piece of shit who knows NOTHING![/QUOTE]
Hell Raising Sow, it's been a while. I know I'm irresistible to chicks, especially dysgenic whales such as yourself.
Come here, you.
...
Ryan S.
11-01-2004, 08:36 AM
[QUOTE=Anima Eternae]This is probably the most hardcore WN site in existence.
Take what you read, especially involving genocide and murder with a grain of salt. It's a place for venting.
...[/QUOTE]
Thanks. This sounds the most truthful of all my replies.
Anima Eternae
11-01-2004, 08:39 AM
I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered. Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared.
What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?
Why? In my honest opinion, because it's the internet. Whoever can be the most "hardcore" wins.
Me personally, I couldn't sleep at night if knowingly let a child drown. But I guess that's because I was just probably raised to be a decent human being. But then again, it should be fairly obvious I don't represent anyone's views but my own.
I agree with the basic tenets of ethnic nationalism, I really do. But I feel there's an overabundance of misinformation, or just lack of information. Granted, it's closer to the truth compared to what the media shovels us, but there's definately a tendency for oversimplification. People tend to get swept away...
And by pseudo-scholarship and misinformation, I am obviously not referring to people like Kevin MacDonald or others, but rather the chain-mail like items you see in proliferation.
...
Ryan S.
11-01-2004, 08:40 AM
[QUOTE=Exterminance]Perhaps you should expand your mind. I've been where you're at - easily horrified by the callousness towards the lives of other beings - but there are times when emotion serves no purpose other than to hinder you. Try approaching the same question out of pure, rational logic, without allowing your emotion to interfere:
If you saw a non-White child drowning, would saving him be a good idea?
Remember, this being exists for itself, as do all living beings by their most basic inherent nature. As a member of another race, but the same species as yourself, this being represents competition. Competition for living space, competition for resources; competition for survival.
Rescue the child, and it will grow big, take up space, consume resources, and do its bit to crowd you and your kin out of the picture.
Personally, I probably would save such a child from drowning, just as I'd be inclined to save a cat or a dog. But my having such an inclination does not make it the correct thing to do. The White race's tendency to exhibit compassion for aliens is one of our greatest flaws, and indeed a large part of the reason that we have allowed non-White immigrants to flood into our lands.[/QUOTE]
This is understandable. You have answered my question, fully and without malice. Thank you.
Btw, for the rest of you, I am a female, not a man.
kabinger
11-01-2004, 10:09 AM
[QUOTE=Keystone]You are a bloodthirsty young man, aren't you?
Internet Stormtroopers like yourself constantly undermine any real progress white patriots gain inch by inch.
Go back to your gaming console, child.[/QUOTE]
You're just a neo con Keystone, what do you care?
Chain
11-01-2004, 10:28 AM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]I have been lurking around here and SF for a few months.
I sympathize with you all, because I know that the threat you feel from minority groups is very real to you all. I understand because some are substanciated, such as the Jew influence on the media.
A lot of anti's think and say that they are better than racialists because they "love" everyone. Although I am not a racialist, I don't think that automatically makes me a better person than you. Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too.
My point is, that although I sympathize with your position, I am very disturbed at some of the comments I see posted here. They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered. Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared.
What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?[/QUOTE]
Funny you should say that; a number of us consider congoloids sub-humans.
Ryan S.
11-01-2004, 03:47 PM
[QUOTE=Sieg][COLOR=DimGray]Posted by Ryan S
I have been lurking around here and SF for a few months.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=Red]I sympathize with you all, because I know that the threat you feel from minority groups is very real to you all.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=DimGray]I understand because some are substantiated, such as the Jew influence on the media.
A lot of antis think and say that they are better than racialists because they "love" everyone. Although I am not a racialist, I don't think that automatically makes me a better person than you.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=DimGray]My point is, that although I sympathize with your position, I am very disturbed at some of the comments I see posted here. They make you seem, I don't know, and I hate to say this, not quite human. I believe there was a thread where the original poster asked if WN's would save a NW child if the child were drowning. Many of you responded saying that you would not save the child. In another thread, many said they would abandon a mixed child that they had fathered.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]Needless to say, I was horrified and somewhat scared. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=DimGray]What I am asking is, why do racialist views have to cross that line?[/COLOR]
Ryan, I suggest that you keep a bit of that sympathy for yourself and your loved ones. Nobody is safe from the jew, not even innocents like you. Especially innocents like you. You obviously haven't had a moment of enlightenment yet, but when you do, I think you'll look back on this post and wonder how you could have been so naive.
Yet I think you're a bit more subtle than you seem to be. Your remark, "Maybe a mixture of authoritarian personality and experience could have an effect on me, too." comes across as a thinly-disguised put-down of WNs. On the one hand, you seemed to be asking an innocent question about WNs, but on the other it is evident that you had already made up your mind about what motivates us. You're mistaken, by the way. One doesn't need to have an "authoritarian personality" in order to fight a threat to one's existence. One just needs courage and personal conviction. That's what you're reading at this forum, and it is not disturbing.
I'd suggest that you clear your mind of prejudices before you try to understand White Nationalism. I think you'll learn that you have no reason to be "horrifed and somewhat scared".[/QUOTE]
I am under the impression that you view my comment as an attack on you. Let me explain. According to my professor, I have an authoritarian personality and authoritarian political views. My personality predisposes me to stereotypical and somewhat racist thinking.
I try to hide it the best that I can, and I do feel that others who feel the same way should too. It is quite natural for one to stereotype others, it is what makes us feel comfortable, knowing that we have a working understanding of the others that surround us. However, what is a natural inclination is not always right, and a mature person knows that they have to hold off some inclinations in order to function in society.
I hope you understand where I am coming from.
Anima Eternae
11-01-2004, 03:52 PM
You should known that the most basic stereotypes are in essence, true.
The facts validate them. Not always, but usually.
...
Chain
11-01-2004, 03:55 PM
Ryan, your professor has obviously been influenced by a Jew Frankfurt School Anti-White Critical Theorist. I suggest you read up on it and confront him in front of the other students.
http://www.seanbryson.com/articles/pc_history.html
It so happens that when the Frankfurt School's book "The Authoritarian Personality" authored by (Theodor. -Chain) Adorno, et. al. and edited by Max Horkheimer was published in 1950, it was a seminal event because of its substantial impact on American social psychologists and social scientists of the day. It was one of a series of books entitled "Studies on Prejudice." It evolved from a simplified formula developed by the Frankfurt School in Europe. Christianity plus capitalism plus the patriarchal authoritarian family created a type of character that was prone to racial prejudice and German fascism.
http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/t/th/theodor_adorno.html
[SIZE=4][COLOR=Red]Theodor (or 'Teddie') was born in Frankfurt as an only child to the wine merchant Oscar Alexander Wiesengrund (1870-1941, of Jewish descent... [/COLOR] [/SIZE]
http://www.theorycards.org.uk/card07.htm
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HoaxThis
11-01-2004, 06:00 PM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]I am under the impression that you view my comment as an attack on you. Let me explain. According to my professor, I have an authoritarian personality and authoritarian political views. My personality predisposes me to stereotypical and somewhat racist thinking.
I try to hide it the best that I can, and I do feel that others who feel the same way should too. It is quite natural for one to stereotype others, it is what makes us feel comfortable, knowing that we have a working understanding of the others that surround us. However, what is a natural inclination is not always right, and a mature person knows that they have to hold off some inclinations in order to function in society.
I hope you understand where I am coming from.[/QUOTE]What could possibly be a more natural inclination than to stand up and fight for the survival of one's own species - or in this case, sub-species? Is'nt that what Nature intended - the fight for survival of one's own kind? Think about it. The White race is fast phasing itself out of existence - or did'nt you know that? Did you know that the White race will become - if something is not done soon to reverse the process - the only species of animal to ever become extinct entirely of its own accord? Sit in your classroom and be lobotomized in your jew-controlled academic environment, you Ivory Tower-ensconsed scumbag. You are totally oblivious to the reality of what's going on all around you.
I'm such a nasty, mean-spirited racist, huh? Me and my natural inclinations and all.
BTW - talk to your professor. Tell him that I challenge him to rebut anything that I, or any other WN, has said in this Forum. You think he'll have the balls?
[COLOR=SlateGray]Posted by "Ryan S"[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]I am under the impression that you view my comment as an attack on you. Let me explain. According to my professor,[/COLOR] I have [COLOR=Red]an authoritarian personality[/COLOR] and authoritarian political views. [COLOR=Red]My personality predisposes me to stereotypical and somewhat racist thinking.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=SlateGray]I try to hide it the best that I can, and I do feel that others who feel the same way should too. It is quite natural for one to stereotype others, it is what makes us feel comfortable, knowing that we have a working understanding of the others that surround us. However, what is a natural inclination is not always right, and a mature person knows that they have to hold off some inclinations in order to function in society.
I hope you understand where I am coming from.[/COLOR]
Ryan S, I didn't take your comments as an attack against myself personally. I took them as a revealing slip of the tongue which told me something about your prejudices.
And I must say that your last post is extremely revealing also. You tell us that your professor has taken the liberty of labelling you as an "authoritative personality", and you quote this fellow's remark as if it is fact, rather than just his opinion. You seem to have accepted, apparently without objection, this man's rather dismissive assessment of you. You have accepted it so totally, that you now go about trying "to hide it the best that I can". That isn't right.
He is trying to lie to you, Ryan S.
Did you notice that his gratuitous comments are themselves a gross example of stereotyping? He has stereotyped people with "authoritarian personalities" as being predisposed to "stereotypical thinking". Yet his impertinence in giving you his candid opinion of your character, without any regard for your own self-estimation, was a blatant show of authoritarianism at its worst! You do see the irony, of course?
Ryan S, if I thought you would accept one piece of advice from me, I would tell you this: Be Sceptical.
What your professor is trying to do is to nip your personality in the bud. he recognises a person who questions things, (you wouldn't be at this site otherwise), and he is concerned that you might actually begin to learn things that he doesn't want you to know.
So he tries to make you believe that, because you are a person who likes to know that there's someone in charge, you are Dangerously Flawed. And, to push your buttons, he hints darkly that People Like You Can Become Racist! By using that threat, he has successfully manipuated you.
He is working to convince you that your natural healthy inclinations are actually deviations from the norm. He, and those like him, are threatened by people like you who can see the need to take charge of life, and who dislike a mess.
What they want is a mess; a social mess, a racial mess, a political mess, and a cultural mess. It makes their job easier.
If you want to know what is meant by that last passage, keep reading the essays at VNN. And keep an open mind. I'm sure you'll learn quickly.
Ryan S.
11-02-2004, 08:42 AM
Thanks, Chain, for the link. I read Adorno's history within. My professor didn't go into Adorno fully, he just mentioned the tenets that Adorno said was manifest in an authoritarian personality.
I didn't just blindly accept my professor's opinion. The tenets of the authoritarian personality in my textbook sounded so much like myself that it was quite a bit frightening.
Antiochus Epiphanes
11-02-2004, 02:02 PM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]I am under the impression that you view my comment as an attack on you. Let me explain. According to my professor, I have an authoritarian personality and authoritarian political views. My personality predisposes me to stereotypical and somewhat racist thinking.
I try to hide it the best that I can, and I do feel that others who feel the same way should too. It is quite natural for one to stereotype others, it is what makes us feel comfortable, knowing that we have a working understanding of the others that surround us. However, what is a natural inclination is not always right, and a mature person knows that they have to hold off some inclinations in order to function in society.
I hope you understand where I am coming from.[/QUOTE]
I know where you're coming from. You need to feast on the weaker broth of gateway material young man. When you have built up your constitution and recovered somewhat from the haze of lies you have been taught, come back here and speak with people who dont need the weak and insipid false "morality" that causes you to reflexively turn away.
Here is some weaker broth, but perhaps better nourishment for you until you are strong:
http://www.amren.com/
HoaxThis
11-02-2004, 06:59 PM
[QUOTE=Ryan S.]Thanks, Chain, for the link. I read Adorno's history within. My professor didn't go into Adorno fully, he just mentioned the tenets that Adorno said was manifest in an authoritarian personality.
I didn't just blindly accept my professor's opinion. The tenets of the authoritarian personality in my textbook sounded so much like myself that it was quite a bit frightening.[/QUOTE]Pfffft! You're a poseur, my friend - nothing more. Your attempt to sound well-educated and deep-thinking is transparent to the majority of WN's here. My impression is that you're revelling in the attention you receive on this board. I'll have nothing more to add to this thread. Later -
(Hang it up, little one).
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