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heaven above
10-31-2004, 03:51 PM
AN OPEN LETTER TO NICK GRIFFIN FROM EDDY MORRISON --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Nick,

I am taking the liberty of writing you an open letter in the certain knowledge that I am putting myself in the dock too by doing so.

Firstly, regarding myself. I first met you in the late 1970’s when we shared a platform together with Joe Pearce in launching the Young National Front. I found you both intelligent and enthusiastic and would describe you at that time as a British Nationalist who was just starting out on the long road to discovering the truth about the deeper meaning of our then joint ideology. When the NF split in 1982, I went with the New National Front and a little later was a founder member of the British National Party, becoming its first Yorkshire Regional Organiser.

To be fearfully honest, my impatience then got the better of me and whilst in London I let John Tyndall down (I was then running the Young BNP in London), and launched the short lived National Action Party – though I NEVER changed one jot of my principles in doing so; looking back this was a mistake, but was rectified that we wound up the NAP and its members returned to the BNP rapidly. For the eighties and nineties I spent my time bringing up a family back in Yorkshire but all the time supporting JT and the BNP, as Yorkshire Organiser and as a national speaker travelling many miles over the years to the BNP – until your ascension to leadership, the vast policy changes you then brought in and my being squeezed out because I would not go along with the dropping of repatriation from the party agenda. On this note I would call to mind the fact that my last speech was to the home Branch of your number two man – Tony Lecomber at his Redbridge BNP branch when I finally realised the extent of your conspiracy, not just against John Tyndall, but also against the very raison d’etre of the BNP.

Tony Lecomber had my friendship for many years, which included putting him up at my family home many times, and taking him on family outings – his repayment after I would not go along with your new way? The spreading of the most abysmal lies about myself; just in the way he repaid John Tyndall who took him back into the BNP after his release from prison, with betrayal and vituperation. However, this is not about Mr.Lecomber or me but about your own activities Nick, though I have to add your choice of him, as your chief hatchet man does not rebound well upon you.

Since you took over the BNP from its Leader and Founder, John Tyndall in 1999, you have had more than five years to put the BNP firmly on the map and carry on the rapid growth, which was already taking place under JT’s leadership. The electoral successes would have come anyway for the White people of Britain; had already reached the point where they were more than ready to start electing BNP councillors. Your leadership, the so-called “Griffin factor” has had no positive effect on the BNP, and I firmly believe that had John Tyndall won the 1999 election, the votes and council seats would have come rolling in anyway –but in even greater numbers!

There are many things I could say about your stewardship of the BNP, but these are and have been said by many other people. What gets to me most is that the BNP since its inception was a party of unity and comradeship. We were a united family of White Nationalists who apart from the odd misfit, fought together in a great army of workers who were struggling round the clock to make the BNP the real threat to the System that it should and can be. What we have now is a Party split almost down the middle because of your poor leadership, highly dubious decisions and the continual witchhunt and expulsion from the BNP of anybody who would criticise you. John Tyndall has thrown down the gauntlet for leadership for the BNP in a correct and honest fashion – your reaction? To ban him and Richard Edmonds from speaking at meetings and now to suspend Mr. Tyndall pending his almost certain expulsion from the party he founded (his second expulsion!), so he could no longer mount a challenge.

Nick, how can you live with yourself after this rank dishonesty to John Tyndall who took you in to a party in 1996, previous to which you had spent most of your time in a variety of groups and where you spent your time constantly running down the BNP. When you found that it was going somewhere, you applied to join the BNP (14 years after it was founded and contributing nothing in all those years but negative attacks on it). You were given a responsible position editing Spearhead with a salary, and we backed you up to the hilt, all during your trial under the Race Act, which I acknowledge was unfair and in which you did acquit yourself with courage. That courage you must now call upon again Nick. The BNP is not at the moment a party of winners but a party, much like the Communist party under Stalin in 1930’s Russia when fear and expulsions ruled and the cult of the personality “Leader above all” rules instead of honest and frank debate about policy and tactics, together with long term strategy.

Nick, use your commonsense now and do the ONE thing you can do to save the BNP and reunite all the forces of White Nationalism under one banner. Resign now from the leadership of the BNP. Admit your mistakes as many of us have had the sense to admit ours. You will regain respect if you return to the principles of White Nationalism, which I thought we once shared. I speak for myself but I am sure that a new leadership of the BNP would NOT conduct a witch hunt of your current supporters, but would put this silly opportunist experiment behind us and get on with winning back a future for our race and our nation in the limited time we have available – and time Nick is fast running out for us all!

Yours faithfully,
Eddy Morrison
National Secretary,
Spearhead Group.

heaven above
11-01-2004, 04:05 PM
Today, 08:50 AM #19
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Re: An open letter to Nick Griffin from Eddy Morrison

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I disagree with Eddy in his letter when he said this;

`What we have now is a Party split almost down the middle because of
your poor leadership'.

That observation is just plain wrong. Unfortunately many people don't
know its wrong because they listen to other people who themselves
haven't attended BNP meetings and don't know the full shape the BNP
is in.

When some people do attend BNP meetings and tell the other people the
reality of the situation they refuse to believe them.

The party is not split down the middle.

STORMSOLDAAT
11-01-2004, 04:11 PM
[QUOTE=heaven above]Today, 08:50 AM #19
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Re: An open letter to Nick Griffin from Eddy Morrison

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I disagree with Eddy in his letter when he said this;

`What we have now is a Party split almost down the middle because of
your poor leadership'.

That observation is just plain wrong. Unfortunately many people don't
know its wrong because they listen to other people who themselves
haven't attended BNP meetings and don't know the full shape the BNP
is in.

When some people do attend BNP meetings and tell the other people the
reality of the situation they refuse to believe them.

The party is not split down the middle.[/QUOTE]

So what is the split in the BNP? I have no idea, I hear many things from many people. 60%/40% ?

SouthCoastNationalist
11-01-2004, 04:19 PM
[QUOTE=heaven above]Today, 08:50 AM #19
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: An open letter to Nick Griffin from Eddy Morrison

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I disagree with Eddy in his letter when he said this;

`What we have now is a Party split almost down the middle because of
your poor leadership'.

That observation is just plain wrong. Unfortunately many people don't
know its wrong because they listen to other people who themselves
haven't attended BNP meetings and don't know the full shape the BNP
is in.

When some people do attend BNP meetings and tell the other people the
reality of the situation they refuse to believe them.

The party is not split down the middle.[/QUOTE]

EW is no longer one of us, that is fact. Seems like you guys in the North West have a lot of yes men to contend with. But the original people, the winners are still there. The yes men and women should make the most of their cushy numbers.

Furthermore has anyone noticed how that thread has been taken over on shitefont? Arthur Kemp. the difference maker LMFWAO, the man is a moron.

heaven above
11-01-2004, 04:35 PM
[QUOTE=BrightonWNP]EW is no longer one of us, that is fact.


Yes, but EW says he IS one of us ! Errm ? :confused:

natsocnet
11-01-2004, 10:45 PM
There's no doubt that JT would make a better leader than NG. But whether BNPers who can only see council seats agree is something else. Not saying that Griffin doesn't have leadership qualities - but whenever the heat gets turned up, he just bottles it.

He f*cked up the election and let the UKIP get in and bottled it! Put suggestions on the table about opening the BNP to non-whites.

If the BNP is the fastest growing party in the UK as it always claims, then what"s the point of opening it up to non-whites.

STORMSOLDAAT
11-02-2004, 03:03 AM
[QUOTE=natsocnet]There's no doubt that JT would make a better leader than NG. But whether BNPers who can only see council seats agree is something else. Not saying that Griffin doesn't have leadership qualities - but whenever the heat gets turned up, he just bottles it.

He f*cked up the election and let the UKIP get in and bottled it! Put suggestions on the table about opening the BNP to non-whites.

If the BNP is the fastest growing party in the UK as it always claims, then what"s the point of opening it up to non-whites.[/QUOTE]

The BNP like the NF before it did a job the state needed. They give a voice to those who oppose immergration, and offered them the ballot box as a sollution, the state controls the media and the ballot box.

If activist were not in the BNP putting leaflets through doors, some would be putting bricks through windows (the state knows this) so having a weak neocon opposition party is much less costly to the state than race riots and constsant attacks by whites who feel they have been screwed by the government.

If the state ever fears Griffin he'll be killed in a car crash or....

The state needs the BNP and having a weak muppets as leader will be exactly what the state wants. Someone who offers an none violent way to winning back the streets, the good old state owned ballot box.

When all their effort has been wasted on the ballot box and the will to fight has gone out of the newbie members the state will know they will be thinking "What's the point in fighting, we've lost". Most of them will just grumble and go back to watching the TV (the ZOGbox)!

SouthCoastNationalist
11-02-2004, 04:44 AM
[QUOTE=STORMSOLDAAT]The BNP like the NF before it did a job the state needed. They give a voice to those who oppose immergration, and offered them the ballot box as a sollution, the state controls the media and the ballot box.

If activist were not in the BNP putting leaflets through doors, some would be putting bricks through windows (the state knows this) so having a weak neocon opposition party is much less costly to the state than race riots and constsant attacks by whites who feel they have been screwed by the government.

If the state ever fears Griffin he'll be killed in a car crash or....

The state needs the BNP and having a weak muppets as leader will be exactly what the state wants. Someone who offers an none violent way to winning back the streets, the good old state owned ballot box.

When all their effort has been wasted on the ballot box and the will to fight has gone out of the newbie members the state will know they will be thinking "What's the point in fighting, we've lost". Most of them will just grumble and go back to watching the TV (the ZOGbox)![/QUOTE]

I see your point stormy, but I do think the British public should have a Nationalist option to vote for in elections, I just don't see the current BNP as being that option. In order for the rest of the nation to see the state of unrest that is being caused here by enforced multiculturism, the nationalist option has to be 100% white nationalist. Otherwise the enemy will always be able to accuse nationalist voters of falling for the watered down policies, and real nationalists like ourselves will continue to feal isolated.

Every nationalist success should be for real "hard line" white nationalism. Give the reds something to worry about and they might even give us a proper scrap. Right now they must be laughing into their lentils.

STORMSOLDAAT
11-02-2004, 06:53 AM
[QUOTE=BrightonWNP]I see your point stormy, but I do think the British public should have a Nationalist option to vote for in elections, I just don't see the current BNP as being that option. In order for the rest of the nation to see the state of unrest that is being caused here by enforced multiculturism, the nationalist option has to be 100% white nationalist. Otherwise the enemy will always be able to accuse nationalist voters of falling for the watered down policies, and real nationalists like ourselves will continue to feal isolated.[/QUOTE]

A REAL WN party rather than the wet boot lickers of the state, would be a good idea. It would help build the climate of fear and mistrust between the whites and none whites. Maybe even start more "no go" areas. ;)


Every nationalist success should be for real "hard line" white nationalism. Give the reds something to worry about and they might even give us a proper scrap. Right now they must be laughing into their lentils.

Well I know for a fact the Anarchists see the BNP today as little more than a state run safty valve (where pissed off English people can let off a little steam, talking to other pissed off people and reading about watered down/law abiding nationalism).

The ZOG state loves to tame its opponents and give them rules like naughty children. Now and again it will give them a few extra ring to jump through, so they think they state worries about them, worries yeah right! :rolleyes:

The state worries about disorder and attack on its money and power structure not about a few BNP councilors. Look at UKIP a state setup party to show a useless opposition to the European state. The state likes these groups to be led by the feeble, the wetter the better to put out the flames of posible public unrest!

stockportloyal1690
11-02-2004, 09:23 AM
[QUOTE=STORMSOLDAAT]Well I know for a fact the Anarchists see the BNP today as little more than a state run safty valve (where pissed off English people can let off a little steam, talking to other pissed off people and reading about watered down/law abiding nationalism).

The ZOG state loves to tame its opponents and give them rules like naughty children. Now and again it will give them a few extra ring to jump through, so they think they state worries about them, worries yeah right! :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]

i agree with you there STORMSOLDAAT. Especially in its regards to it's attacks on Islam. I read the Manchester Jewish Telegraph the other day (don't worry I didn't buy it out of my own pocket!!!) and it's letters page is more extreme than the letters page of Freedom!!!

I just think it's shame for this missed opportunity that current events have provided us.

Librarian
11-02-2004, 03:12 PM
In his final 'appeal to reason' Morrison misses the point - Griffin is now in too deep. They won't let him stop - even if he wants to.

STORMSOLDAAT
11-02-2004, 03:40 PM
[QUOTE=Librarian]In his final 'appeal to reason' Morrison misses the point - Griffin is now in too deep. They won't let him stop - even if he wants to.[/QUOTE]

You are right, once you take the jewish sheckle then they will own you. He has opened the gates to none whites, he can not now remove them, this will also be a problem for any future leader of the BNP.

Griffin will now always be pushed a little futher by the jews/the state and if he ever says no they will take away what he loves most "His money" and that will be just for starters! :eek:

White Dragon
11-02-2004, 05:40 PM
The persecution of the founder and first Chairman of the BNP John Tyndall by the bottom feeders of the Griffin cabal is an utter disgrace. As I have mentioned, and I think Stormy followed up on this, that Nick does have a tendency to 'bottle it'. This second explusion mentioned in Eddy's open letter is a prime example of this. Surrounded like he is with 'yes men' he really is not sure of his true support within the party. Thus he is trying with everything he has got to get rid of JT. It failed the first time,costing the party 6,000 quid, and itz going to fail again.

While surfing for a Colin Jordan photo I came across a story regarding British Nationalism from the early 1960's. From the old BNP, through Jordan's NSM through Tyndall's GBM, up to the National Front. I had forgotten but these so called 'modernisers', these 'populists', have continually shown their faces. Be it Andrew Fountaine, to Kingsley-Reed, David MaCaldan, all have battled John Tyndall and all have lost. Interesting the same arguments have been used that we need to soften our approach to win support, even the old 'uniform photo' is used saying that while Tyndall is around we'll get nowhere.

John Tyndall took these people on, seeing in them for what they truly are 'opportunists'. Everytime John TYndall has beaten them. Let us never forget under John Tyndall's leadership the National Front grew into a massive political organisation with thousands of members. Again with the British National Party, from nothing, unifing Nationalists into a single body, brought this party to the attention of the British people. I agree with Eddy on this point, that had JT won the 1999 election, without all the 'stunts' the party would of had elected councillors, and in fact proberbly more.

Nick Griffin is his own worse enemy, a talented individual there is no doubt. Yet you only have to go back and read some of those old Nationalism Today magazines to get a real feel of the man. He seems to love this stuff, the internal battling, pushing Nationalists against Nationalists, playing his little games against everybody. I have a theory that with his Cambridge education, he thinks he knows better than the lot of us - I think itz that simple.

Reading some of the posts on Slimyfront Britain, one really has to shake ones head is utter disbelief. The British National Party forum on MSN is another one, the posts are utter tory in nature, they have no idea what true Nationalism is all about - no clue !

When was the last time the BNP had a General Meeting, never mind a National Rally in London ? I don't count the RWB that is just a family festival with some politics thrown in. If Nick is so 'cock sure' about himself let him call a National General meeting, but thats the rub, he won't do that as he has no bottle. He avoids confrontation, he lets his 'lackeys' do all the dirty work for him, Lebomber being the recent of his many henchmen.

Throughout British Nationalist history, the 'populists' has popped up and everytime they have been defeated.

SouthCoastNationalist
11-02-2004, 06:09 PM
[QUOTE=White Dragon]The persecution of the founder and first Chairman of the BNP John Tyndall by the bottom feeders of the Griffin cabal is an utter disgrace. As I have mentioned, and I think Stormy followed up on this, that Nick does have a tendency to 'bottle it'. This second explusion mentioned in Eddy's open letter is a prime example of this. Surrounded like he is with 'yes men' he really is not sure of his true support within the party. Thus he is trying with everything he has got to get rid of JT. It failed the first time,costing the party 6,000 quid, and itz going to fail again.

While surfing for a Colin Jordan photo I came across a story regarding British Nationalism from the early 1960's. From the old BNP, through Jordan's NSM through Tyndall's GBM, up to the National Front. I had forgotten but these so called 'modernisers', these 'populists', have continually shown their faces. Be it Andrew Fountaine, to Kingsley-Reed, David MaCaldan, all have battled John Tyndall and all have lost. Interesting the same arguments have been used that we need to soften our approach to win support, even the old 'uniform photo' is used saying that while Tyndall is around we'll get nowhere.

John Tyndall took these people on, seeing in them for what they truly are 'opportunists'. Everytime John TYndall has beaten them. Let us never forget under John Tyndall's leadership the National Front grew into a massive political organisation with thousands of members. Again with the British National Party, from nothing, unifing Nationalists into a single body, brought this party to the attention of the British people. I agree with Eddy on this point, that had JT won the 1999 election, without all the 'stunts' the party would of had elected councillors, and in fact proberbly more.

Nick Griffin is his own worse enemy, a talented individual there is no doubt. Yet you only have to go back and read some of those old Nationalism Today magazines to get a real feel of the man. He seems to love this stuff, the internal battling, pushing Nationalists against Nationalists, playing his little games against everybody. I have a theory that with his Cambridge education, he thinks he knows better than the lot of us - I think itz that simple.

Reading some of the posts on Slimyfront Britain, one really has to shake ones head is utter disbelief. The British National Party forum on MSN is another one, the posts are utter tory in nature, they have no idea what true Nationalism is all about - no clue !

When was the last time the BNP had a General Meeting, never mind a National Rally in London ? I don't count the RWB that is just a family festival with some politics thrown in. If Nick is so 'cock sure' about himself let him call a National General meeting, but thats the rub, he won't do that as he has no bottle. He avoids confrontation, he lets his 'lackeys' do all the dirty work for him, Lebomber being the recent of his many henchmen.

Throughout British Nationalist history, the 'populists' has popped up and everytime they have been defeated.[/QUOTE]

An excellent post WD!

S.EBANKS
11-02-2004, 06:37 PM
[QUOTE=White Dragon]

Throughout British Nationalist history, the 'populists' has popped up and everytime they have been defeated.[/QUOTE] If only more people in the BNP read those words.

eddym_14
11-02-2004, 06:37 PM
The trouble is Comrades, now I have said my bit directly to Griffin - what more can we do? In my 30 + years battling as a White Nationalist this is one of the most depressing times for we radicals (inlcuding being in the nick when at least we were doing something - if only sorting out the Reds).There are various ways out of this mess, though I would warn against acting precipitately. But I have to ask myself - and as pointed out by a posting here - is the BNP any longer worth saving? Is Griffin in so deep with his Zionist pals that he simply cannot put the ball down? Or is Steve Smith right in his latest article when he states basically that Griffin is motivated above all by money - as long as the cash is rolling in then he couldn't give a flying f**k about the Cause?
Eddy

SouthCoastNationalist
11-02-2004, 06:52 PM
[QUOTE=eddym_14]The trouble is Comrades, now I have said my bit directly to Griffin - what more can we do? In my 30 + years battling as a White Nationalist this is one of the most depressing times for we radicals (inlcuding being in the nick when at least we were doing something - if only sorting out the Reds).There are various ways out of this mess, though I would warn against acting precipitately. But I have to ask myself - and as pointed out by a posting here - is the BNP any longer worth saving? Is Griffin in so deep with his Zionist pals that he simply cannot put the ball down? Or is Steve Smith right in his latest article when he states basically that Griffin is motivated above all by money - as long as the cash is rolling in then he couldn't give a flying f**k about the Cause?
Eddy[/QUOTE]

All Nick Griffin cares about is Nick Griffin, Race & Nation just doesn't come into it. So in my humble opinion the question has to be, are we going to be able to save the BNP? Or will this be a salvage operation?? There are a lot of good honest nationalists still in the BNP, if we are not carefull they will be lost to the cause. And that is what really worries me.

natsocnet
11-02-2004, 07:03 PM
[QUOTE=White Dragon]The persecution of the founder and first Chairman of the BNP John Tyndall by the bottom feeders of the Griffin cabal is an utter disgrace. As I have mentioned, and I think Stormy followed up on this, that Nick does have a tendency to 'bottle it'. This second explusion mentioned in Eddy's open letter is a prime example of this. Surrounded like he is with 'yes men' he really is not sure of his true support within the party. Thus he is trying with everything he has got to get rid of JT. It failed the first time,costing the party 6,000 quid, and itz going to fail again.

While surfing for a Colin Jordan photo I came across a story regarding British Nationalism from the early 1960's. From the old BNP, through Jordan's NSM through Tyndall's GBM, up to the National Front. I had forgotten but these so called 'modernisers', these 'populists', have continually shown their faces. Be it Andrew Fountaine, to Kingsley-Reed, David MaCaldan, all have battled John Tyndall and all have lost. Interesting the same arguments have been used that we need to soften our approach to win support, even the old 'uniform photo' is used saying that while Tyndall is around we'll get nowhere.

John Tyndall took these people on, seeing in them for what they truly are 'opportunists'. Everytime John TYndall has beaten them. Let us never forget under John Tyndall's leadership the National Front grew into a massive political organisation with thousands of members. Again with the British National Party, from nothing, unifing Nationalists into a single body, brought this party to the attention of the British people. I agree with Eddy on this point, that had JT won the 1999 election, without all the 'stunts' the party would of had elected councillors, and in fact proberbly more.

Nick Griffin is his own worse enemy, a talented individual there is no doubt. Yet you only have to go back and read some of those old Nationalism Today magazines to get a real feel of the man. He seems to love this stuff, the internal battling, pushing Nationalists against Nationalists, playing his little games against everybody. I have a theory that with his Cambridge education, he thinks he knows better than the lot of us - I think itz that simple.

Reading some of the posts on Slimyfront Britain, one really has to shake ones head is utter disbelief. The British National Party forum on MSN is another one, the posts are utter tory in nature, they have no idea what true Nationalism is all about - no clue !

When was the last time the BNP had a General Meeting, never mind a National Rally in London ? I don't count the RWB that is just a family festival with some politics thrown in. If Nick is so 'cock sure' about himself let him call a National General meeting, but thats the rub, he won't do that as he has no bottle. He avoids confrontation, he lets his 'lackeys' do all the dirty work for him, Lebomber being the recent of his many henchmen.

Throughout British Nationalist history, the 'populists' has popped up and everytime they have been defeated.[/QUOTE]

Yes, very well said, WD. The lack of backbone has always been a problem with NG, and WN politics is really not the sort of thing for the faint hearted. It is ironic isn't it that despite all the ZOG media mud slinging and personal slander (eg. fat queen Webster) the only time that NG got close to a court room was with the expulsion of JT- and even then he couldn't go through with it.

If NG hasn't the guts to confront and stare down his opponents within the BNP, what chance does he have beating the big parties? All it will take is a resurgence in the fortunes of the Tory party and gulp! the BNP's recent successes will be swallowed up in one big bite.

And you're dead right about the Oxbridge 'born to rule' mentality. I was thinking the same thing meself.

heaven above
11-02-2004, 07:20 PM
By all accounts Mr Griffin can't even rule in his own household. His degree is no great shakes either. Probably the public schoolboy thing may be the problem for him. Having gone to Public school and him only being a woodcutter must have been pretty hard to swallow.

natsocnet
11-02-2004, 07:45 PM
[QUOTE=BrightonWNP] There are a lot of good honest nationalists still in the BNP, if we are not carefull they will be lost to the cause. And that is what really worries me.[/QUOTE]

Spot on, Sid. But all Nationalists, quite rightly, will rally around their leader when they perceive he is being threatened. It's only natural. That's why it's important that these people do not feel alienated from the NG alternatives whether within or outside the BNP.

White Dragon
11-02-2004, 10:49 PM
[QUOTE=eddym_14]The trouble is Comrades, now I have said my bit directly to Griffin - what more can we do? In my 30 + years battling as a White Nationalist this is one of the most depressing times for we radicals (inlcuding being in the nick when at least we were doing something - if only sorting out the Reds).There are various ways out of this mess, though I would warn against acting precipitately. But I have to ask myself - and as pointed out by a posting here - is the BNP any longer worth saving? Is Griffin in so deep with his Zionist pals that he simply cannot put the ball down? Or is Steve Smith right in his latest article when he states basically that Griffin is motivated above all by money - as long as the cash is rolling in then he couldn't give a flying f**k about the Cause?
Eddy[/QUOTE]

I feel the party is worth saving. John Tyndall says also itz worth saving. British White Nationalism has been infected with splits, reasons why we have not been able to have a mass movement. As I stated the old NF was the last time we were on the way to a large mass movement. The make up and weakness of the National Directorate failed the party, itz members and the patriotic British people.

The British National Party has the right constitution, it has proved itself though the years without any major splits since 1982. Nick Griffin is no dumby ( sometimes I do wonder )...however he is not a dumby, he sticks his nose to the air and finger high to test the political Nationalist wind. My question to Nick is this as I posted above, if you are sure of the support of the party then put it to the ultimate test. The best test is a leadership challange which John Tyndall has said he will be glad to contest.

Nick won't do it because he is and always has been a 'bottler'. The response to activists during the European election and local elections should give you an idea of the motivation and moral of the rank and file. They found it very hard to get 'bodies on the streets' for leafleting etc. This tells me moral is at a low ebb.

The rank and file should be asking, why is their leader running away from a 70 year old man ? Answer is simple, he is a 'bottler'. He doesn't have the conviction of his convictions. He is so terrified that he will lose, he is trying every avenue to avoid this challange. Terrified to such an extent that he is quite ready to lose more BNP rank and files members money on the stupid attempt to expel John Tyndall.

As somebody posted on this thread, if he is frightend to take on a 70 year old man, what does that say for him as Leader of the BNP to be ready to take on the establishment leaders and parties.

He has shown weakness, as a leader you must not show weakness. Good people don't follow weak leaders. He needs people in his cabal to tell him to stand like a Whiteman and face John Tyndall in an election.

He won't of course because I know he has no bottle

eddym_14
12-09-2004, 05:35 PM
Right at thiis moment I disllike being on the same PLANET of Lecomber/Beria let alone being in the same party!
Eddy

Dasyurus Maculatus
12-10-2004, 02:57 AM
[QUOTE=eddym_14]Right at thiis moment I disllike being on the same PLANET of Lecomber/Beria let alone being in the same party!
Eddy[/QUOTE]

Beria was a paedophile. Surely you're not arguing ............. is too?.

PS As a small point, dont these 'open letters' to Griffin or whoever, only work if, and its a very big 'if', Griffin or other target recipient of the letter reads it. Is that really likely? that Griff reads VNN?.

Somehow I doubt it, dont you?

:confused:

natsocnet
12-10-2004, 04:03 AM
[QUOTE=Dasyurus Maculatus]Beria was a paedophile. Surely you're not arguing ............. is too?.

PS As a small point, dont these 'open letters' to Griffin or whoever, only work if, and its a very big 'if', Griffin or other target recipient of the letter reads it. Is that really likely? that Griff reads VNN?.

Somehow I doubt it, dont you?

:confused:[/QUOTE]

Oh, don't worry, he's kept informed, if he doesn't already drop in from time-to-time.

About two years ago I got a lengthy email from him when I was on another forum arguing that BNP members should support a planned NF march in Peterborough. Whether this was just some set standard response I don't know as I didn't reply. But it did come as a suprise, particularly as I wasn't aware he was a member of the forum.

English Worrier
12-10-2004, 04:12 AM
[QUOTE=Dasyurus Maculatus]Beria was a paedophile. Surely you're not arguing ............. is too?.

PS As a small point, dont these 'open letters' to Griffin or whoever, only work if, and its a very big 'if', Griffin or other target recipient of the letter reads it. Is that really likely? that Griff reads VNN?.

Somehow I doubt it, dont you?

:confused:[/QUOTE]

No Griffin probably won't read VNN but he has a faithful collection of subordinates who report EVERYTHING back to him however trivial. So you can guarentee 100% he knows about it no doubt about it.

heaven above
02-12-2005, 11:31 PM
Griffin does read VNN nowadays.

Librarian
02-13-2005, 05:23 AM
[QUOTE=heaven above]Having gone to Public school and him only being a woodcutter must have been pretty hard to swallow.[/QUOTE]
Actually, you've hit on what actually drives Griffin.

He loves money, yes. But that's not the main thing.

What eats him is social class.You see, his background is rural upper-middle class. These people hang around the fringes of the upper class. They ape them, but - and this is the key point - don't have the money to sustain the lifestyle.

They adopt the manners and morals of the upper class (the arrogance, the greed, the amoral behaviour etc), but don't have the cash.

This is what Griffin wants so badly - the big house in the country, the horses, the landrover and the BMW on the drive. The whole countryside, upper-class twit, foxhunting bit.

And, because he believes that he was born to it, he thinks that it's his right. Like the upper classes, he sees ordinary people as trash, simply there to provide him with what he wants.

So Griffin wants the money, and badly. But it's for a purpose.

The state knows this and pushes his buttons.

heaven above
02-19-2005, 12:31 AM
[QUOTE=Librarian]
The state knows this and pushes his buttons.[/QUOTE]


Pushes his buttons ?

Oooh errr ! :eek: