If christianity is, the White Race isn't.

Take your pick.

Agreed wholeheartedly. It's time to build bridges and burn churches.

Most churches are ZOG-loving hellholes and cesspools.

They might as well be Sin-a-gogues!T.J.B.

And how will that be accomplished in real life?

Historically, it's been the Christians who burn the atheists and drive out the Jews.

Since Christians give birth at above the replacement rate, and atheists don't, the future of the race lies with the Christians.

I can understand disagreeing with beliefs, many Christians disagree with each other, which is why they form different denominations.

But the attack on White Christians is ill-advised, especially with no viable alternative, since they form the majority of the White race.
They also make up the vast majority of nationalist and secessionist groups, most community organisations, and most conservative political parties.

Most major Christian denominations have already separated or begun to separate from Jewish control, and live amongst each other in their own communities.

The traditional churches are essentially self sufficient, with global ties, and their members live with and do business with each other, thereby ensuring that their money moves within their own community, usually through tax exempt organisations.

Atheists depend upon the government for almost everything, as they have no groups to protect or provide for them. Most are reduced to internet activities, and don't belong to any groups, or actually do anything, since they have no manpower, structures or money.

I foresee great difficulty with atheists ever becoming part of the WN movement if theio views on Christians ever become known, as most activist organisations would kick them out immediately, since most members are Christians, as are most sponsors and donors.

As to whether atheists or Christians will determine the future, well...

Here we see a get together of just two such families, 7 other family members aren't in the photo.

http://www.jeubfamily.com/images/heppners2.jpg


Some more.
Consider the environment, numbers, appearance, health and stability of home and marriage, with others

http://www.opusdei.us/image/family5A.jpg

http://www.everyculture.com/multi/images/gema_01_img0013.jpg


http://www.thearkansasproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/duggar2.jpg

O my GOD! look at those all those beautiful White children! How in Gods name can anyone say that the shitskins of this world are the equals of White people. White people are just in a different league. White people don't even belong to this world. If I were God I'd create a separate planet just for White folks to live on. Actually I'd create different planets for different subraces like the Alpines, Nordics, Meds etc. And then there would be a different melting pot kind of planet where I'd put different Whites of different stocks and encourage them to indulge in some sub-racemixing and sheet. haha.

I want to be born as a White man in my next life and look like Christian Bale.

Atheism sucks and so does agnosticism but atleast the latter is less worse than the former.

I typed the 14's without counting and I just realised that I typed 14 eight times! What a happy coincidence! haha

http://images.cdbaby.name/b/l/bloodredeagle.jpg

gets my vote.

Christians and christianity exist to prevent us from becoming gods.

It succeeded.

I was just musing on the fact that the Phora would be a pretty good forum overall what with il ragno, Thomas777 and the like - if it weren't for all the Christian fuckwits cluttering up the place and making it near-unreadable.

The Christian apologists always seem to be waiting in the wings on this forum too, but at least here there are few enough of them that one can simply roll eyes and ignore them.

PS Just checked the other threads, Special Agent "Eric Wright" Kaplan is going on ignore.

All christians are traitors.

We should burn them instead of the koran.

I was never raised with religion. My father was, but abandoned it as a young man in the 70's, and my mother had a similar situation of having a family of church-goers.

I found it amusing to see the similarity with a lot of men of my generation, where they have old photos of their parents as kids going to church with their parents (grandparents). I have similar photos.

It seems a lot of that generation of the 60's, 70's young people who are now grandparents of 60'ish today, all abandoned it en masse.

I've been in a church maybe a dozen times. All for funerals or weddings or when my grandmother was babysitting me. Never of my own interest.

Though, considering so much of this literature with themed terms like "white culture" revolves around Christianity/Catholicism as the centerpiece, I've contemplated looking at a bible and going to church. What is the point of defending so-called "White Culture / European Culture", if you dismiss what is obviously such a center stone?

Then again, that little voice of some a-hole philosopher in the back of my head is still telling me "religion is dumbed down philosophy for the masses". I hate to feel like I'm being dumbed down. Maybe that's why I was always bored in school with their watered-down assembly-line curriculum, and in church the two or three times my grandmother took me as a kid with the monotone and uninspired regurgitation of words someone else wrote, wondering if half of these people even understood what they mean.

I suppose, there's also the question on the viewpoint of many who view religion and Christianity as a bane on White Culture and Western Civilization. An inhibitor on White Europeans, and a doorway to exploitation of "morals". After all, the Romans were doing pretty well without it. And from what I've read, they actually had a religion that sounds more alluring (as far as facilitating growth and a healthy forward-moving society) from what I've read of it, rather than this Jew on a stick stuff people moan about on Sunday.

It just seems like it's filled with impotency today, compared to the generations past when it had power behind it, values adhered to, and people went there as a solid group and community that got along and networked and did things.

Today, it just seems like those that go, are going through the motions. It reeks of impotence. Almost like those ceremonial powerless Emperors and Kings and Queens still in some countries.

I've met a few church-goers today that are borderline nutcases with agendas. Maybe they're just adhering to the picture of the modern church-goer that Hollywood painted for them. I can assure you, it's not just on the screen. There's a lot of pushy religious assholes and fucking weirdos, particularly these younger kids who are late teens / early 20's who were raised with nothing but religion, went to religious schools, and had parents that almost seem as if they've kept them in a pressure cooker for their entire childhood.

Time for the christian church to rediscover its mission on Earth and burn at the stake the White wanna-be Jews and other anti-christians. Cleanse the white race of these diseased minds who hate the church like only a Jew can.

http://arxxiduc.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/spanish_inquisition.jpg

http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Medieval_manuscript-Jews_identified_by_rouelle_are_being_burned_at_stake.jpg

Time for the christian church to rediscover its mission on Earth and burn at the stake the White wanna-be Jews and other anti-christians. Cleanse the white race of these diseased minds who hate the church like only a Jew can.Christian and English is such an ugly combination.:rolleyes:

Christian and English is such an ugly combination.:rolleyes:

Flattery will get you no where with me, Toddler.

You should aim higher, Hairy.
Try being a White MAN.

ooh err... sounds to me like you've been watching too much "queer eye for the straight guy", Toddler. I'll bet you even sound like Carson Kressley.

That reference went by me like a Randy Johnson fastball. I've never heard of a Carson Kressley.:confused:

Tell us about the time the 'boo walked on water, Hairy.
(that one slays me!):hflol

Time for the christian church to rediscover its mission on Earth and burn at the stake the White wanna-be Jews and other anti-christians. Cleanse the white race of these diseased minds who hate the church like only a Jew can.

http://arxxiduc.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/spanish_inquisition.jpg

http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Medieval_manuscript-Jews_identified_by_rouelle_are_being_burned_at_stake.jpg

:rofl

They're too busy recruiting shitskins, ya fuckin' retard. So the probability that will happen is nil.

Harry Flash is going on ignore too.

Don't sweat it, Toddler. From what I see most things go by you like a Randy Johnson fastball anyway.

Hairy, do you believe all the tales of the Jeeboo Majick as related in the Holey Babble (word of God)? Yes or no.:confused:
Your honest answer please.

Hairy, do you believe all the tales of the Jeeboo Majick as related in the Holey Babble (word of God)? Yes or no.:confused:
Your honest answer please.

I couldn't give a fuck.

Next...

I couldn't give a fuck.

Next... Than why are you a X-tian? Is it for the chicks?

Than why are you a X-tian? Is it for the chicks?

Don't try to be funny, Toddler. It doesn't suit you.

You should try and get some sleep, Hairy.
What is it?...3:00 in the morning over there?

Time for the christian church to rediscover its mission on Earth and burn at the stake the White wanna-be Jews and other anti-christians. Cleanse the white race of these diseased minds who hate the church like only a Jew can.

http://arxxiduc.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/spanish_inquisition.jpg

http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Medieval_manuscript-Jews_identified_by_rouelle_are_being_burned_at_stake.jpg

No thanks! You can burn all the Kikes you want, but I'll continue to believe in Odin and Tyr. Some Catholic "saints" such as Louis, rightfully drove the perfidious Jew out as they should have. Others forced my Nordic Ancestors to worship their loathsome goDD of Rome and Jerkoffusalem at pain of torture and death, pay all kinds of tribute and be in total bondage to the Church of Rome and priests' whims and dictates.

As for the filthy, unwashed, perverted, reptilian rabid Rabbis and their fellow Kike$, their "temples" can be turned into sewage plants or pig pens. These illuminist, satanic scum deserve the noose, not obedience.

No thanks! You can burn all the Kikes you want, but I'll continue to believe in Odin and Tyr. Some Catholic "saints" such as Louis, rightfully drove the perfidious Jew out as they should have. Others forced my Nordic Ancestors to worship their loathsome goDD of Rome and Jerkoffusalem at pain of torture and death, pay all kinds of tribute and be in total bondage to the Church of Rome and priests' whims and dictates.

As for the filthy, unwashed, perverted, reptilian rabid Rabbis and their fellow Kike$, their "temples" can be turned into sewage plants or pig pens. These illuminist, satanic scum deserve the noose, not obedience.

Hey shit-for-brains, I thought you said you had me on ignore. Now fuck off and don't tell lies again.

G'mornin', Hairy.
How was church? (Anglican?)

G'mornin', Hairy.
How was church? (Anglican?)

Lol you're not going to make any headway. I bet you if Harry could go back in time and hypothetically met the 'jesus of his dreams' as a real person and it was some hairy brown skinned unibrow-having Semite (like the people who were living in Jerusalem at the time), Harry would still bow and kiss his kikegods hairy brown feet.

Harry thinks jesus was White and European simply because some European artists portrayed him as that 1000s of years later, that's all the proof Harry needs. (much like Jim Giles being able to use his jesus like powers to turn innocence to guilt based on someones photo and some spare frankincense and myrrh), Harry just needs a photographed statue of jesus that he found on the internets to make jesus White.

Christians put their nonwhite religion above all else, even race. Christianity is incompatible with White racialism.

Now, if the same thing happened to me, If I saw blonde haired blue eyed nordic jesus walking on water and coming back from the dead with my own two eyes, I'd think I might reconsider my views on magic being bullshit and fantasy. Of course i'd also think that magical Aryan jesus was a fucking prick for congregating with all those nonwhite middle easterners. I'd probably also have to reconsider my entire belief system and embrace multiculturalism like jesus did.

So Harry, why do you go against jesus's teachings? Shouldn't you renounce "racism" and move to a more diverse area? I'm sure Harlem is about as 'White' as Jerusalem was for jewsus at the time. WWJD?

Try again, Varg-ina. If you want lessons in abuse, I'm more than happy to oblige.

We've all heard the quote: that if America were to go to war with israel, all the dual citizenship american jews would side with isreal.

If jesus came to the Christians of VNNF in a dream and told them that "racism" was against gods will, that they should 'love their fellow man'

Would they side with us or against us?

Once criticism of Christianity comes into play, all bets are off for the god fearing jew worshiper.

To deny jesus is a sin. The idea of spending eternity in hell for disobeying jewsus is a hell of a lot more incentive for them to turn their backs on the white race. It's all about saving their own selfish asses and not about saving their race. This is why I believe most 'WN' Christians would still follow Christianity even if they had definitive proof it was a nonwhite religion.

If jesus came to the Christians of VNNF in a dream and told them that "racism" was against gods will, that they should 'love their fellow man'

Would they side with us or against us?

Irrelevant. Who would believe him anyway. Only a lunatic hears voices or hears God speaking to him.

But even if it were true, I don't think it's ever been a sin to prefer to company of your own race.

Hairy,
Either you believe or you're a poser. Which?

If one were familiar with the story of the Tower of Babel one would know that God is against race mixing and globalist ideology.

And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
...
So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
--Genesis 11:6,8

God created the races and meant for them to be separate. It's man's interference in God's plan that is the problem, not God, Christianity, or the Bible.

Irrelevant. Who would believe him anyway. Only a lunatic hears voices or hears God speaking to him.Isn't that how god spoke to most of his followers? Have you ever prayed? Have you ever talked to yourself and thought you were telepathically sending a message to god? The entire religion encourages people to be lunatics!


But even if it were true, I don't think it's ever been a sin to prefer to company of your own race.
Apparently nordic jesus didn't agree on preferring the company of his own kind.

Answer me this one question.. Do you think Jerusalem was ever majority White? Do you think it was 'more white' than Europe was at the time?

I admit, there are small pockets of Whites in every country on earth pretty much. People will go on google images, hand pick 'white looking' Iranians and convince themselves that they are the majority of the population of Iran :rofl. But to say Whites were a majority in the middle east in jesus times is ridiculous. At most they were a small minority amongst a sea of nonwhites. And even then, it was probably just the Romans. Apparently nordic jesus didn't believe in segregation and preferred to live around nonwhites. If jesus was aryan and was only speaking to 'his people' (whites) why didn't the son of god choose to live somewhere a little Whiter?

If one were familiar with the story of the Tower of Babel one would know that God is against race mixing and globalist ideology.


God created the races and meant for them to be separate. It's man's interference in God's plan that is the problem, not God, Christianity, or the Bible.

Yet the omnipotent god chose for jesus to be born in the multiracial desert. Kinda contradictory I would say.

Abandon your (future/hypothetical) kid in Harlem and i'm sure there wouldn't be dumbasses telling me you want the races to be separate.

Isn't that how god spoke to most of his followers? Have you ever prayed? Have you ever talked to yourself and thought you were telepathically sending a message to god? The entire religion encourages people to be lunatics!

So the White race is a race of lunatics. Doesn't bother me. I've heard worse. Nothing wrong with someone believing they're talking to God - prayers, etc. It's when someone thinks God is talking to them that's the problem.


Apparently nordic jesus didn't agree on preferring the company of his own kind.

Answer me this one question.. Do you think Jerusalem was ever majority White? Do you think it was 'more white' than Europe was at the time?

Don't care. Not interested. You're the one with the hang-up about whether Jesus Christ had blue or brown eyes, not me. I couldn't give a stuff one way or the other.

I admit, there are small pockets of Whites in every country on earth pretty much. People will go on google images, hand pick 'white looking' Iranians and convince themselves that they are the majority of the population of Iran :rofl. But to say Whites were a majority in the middle east in jesus times is ridiculous. At most they were a small minority amongst a sea of nonwhites. And even then, it was probably just the Romans. Apparently nordic jesus didn't believe in segregation and preferred to live around nonwhites. If jesus was aryan and was only speaking to 'his people' (whites) why didn't the son of god choose to live somewhere a little Whiter?

Because we are White. We are not Jews. Aryans create culture. We do not have particularist religions any more than we have particularist food or clothes. Is any of this getting through?

It is idle to argue which race or races were the original representative of human culture and hence the real founders of all that we sum up under the word 'humanity.' It is simpler to raise this question with regard to the present, and here an easy, clear answer results. All the human culture, all the results of art, science, and technology that we see before us today, are almost exclusively the creative product of the Aryan. This very fact admits of the not unfounded inference that he alone was the founder of all higher humanity, therefore representing the prototype of all that we understand by the word 'man.' He is the Prometheus of mankind from whose bright forehead the divine spark of genius has sprung at all times, forever kindling anew that fire of knowledge which illumined the night of silent mysteries and thus caused man to climb the path to mastery over the other beings of this earth. Exclude him-and perhaps after a few thousand years darkness will again descend on the earth, human culture will pass, and the world turn to a desert. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf.

Even if the White man disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, the evidence for his existence would still be the Xian religion. Anywhere there is a cross anywhere in the world, it says, this is where the White man once stood. The White guilt-trip and the self-imposed historical amnesia of today cannot undo the past or the Aryan's central role in building Xian civilisation. You don't have to be a Xian to recognise that the Xian idea in the course of the centuries had nourished European civilisation, and still stands as something that one cannot totally renounce without the White man becoming totally degraded as in the former USSR with its atheistic communism.

Yet the omnipotent god chose for jesus to be born in the multiracial desert. Kinda contradictory I would say.

Abandon your (future/hypothetical) kid in Harlem and i'm sure there wouldn't be dumbasses telling me you want the races to be separate.

You might be aware that the Egyptians were White? If not you should do some research on the subject. Here's a start:

King Tut’s DNA is Western European (http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-tuts-dna-is-western-european/)

Christ was also White, just as the Israelites.

That today's Egyptians aren't White doesn't change the fact that Egyptians were at one point White, just as many in the area known as Judea during Christ's earthly ministry were White.

Hairy,
Either you believe or you're a poser. Which?

I am a defender of White heritage not the late night preachers you get on American TV. The idea of having some sort of "personal relationship" with God is one of those modern cutsey warm and fuzzy ideas that Americans really love.

I am a defender of White heritage not the late night preachers you get on American TV. A race of Lance Armstrongs don't need training wheels.

A race of Lance Armstrongs don't need training wheels.

Whatever that means...

Wakey, wakey, hands off snakey, Toddler.

When all reasoning fails -- because you never possessed any -- take refuge in your seniority status.

White genes nourish white creativity everywhere in spite of their hostageship, not because of it.

How had we ever developed without jew-on-a-stick? We had.

How much further would we be today without jew-on-a-stick? Someplace too far beyond our imaginations to conceive.

But hey, jesus loves you.

To death.

But hey, jesus loves you.


...while everyone else thinks you're a cunt

...while everyone else thinks you're a cunt

My, isn't that special.

The Limeys like to say cunt a lot. It's like 'like' or 'y'know'.;)

You might be aware that the Egyptians were White? If not you should do some research on the subject. Here's a start:

King Tut’s DNA is Western European (http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-tuts-dna-is-western-european/)

Christ was also White, just as the Israelites.

That today's Egyptians aren't White doesn't change the fact that Egyptians were at one point White, just as many in the area known as Judea during Christ's earthly ministry were White.

The majority of Egyptians were White? No. The ruling/upper caste probably were, but only for a certain period of time. Was jesus part of the upper caste? I doubt it. Anyway my point still stands, Why would omnipotent god choose for his son to be born in the multiracial desert? Jerusalem was never majority white, neither was Egypt.

Israelites weren't white, that's just what CI people tell themselves because they can't invent their own religion. I thought the blacks (http://www.google.com/search?q=black+israelites&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)were the true Israelites? or were the chinese (http://members.cox.net/derrymatheson/chinese.htm) ? Oh wait the babble is vague, and anyone can interrupt it however they want, even gullible Whites.

YouTube - Christianity Frescos of Israelites

We've all heard the quote: that if America were to go to war with israel, all the dual citizenship american jews would side with isreal.


that is to further befuddle the goyim,
make them think jews are just like them with the same loyalties..
imagine that some losers still believe that nonsense. :p

jews would side with whomever had a better chance to win,
even if it means sacrificing a few fellow kikes for the kosher benefit.

kike-conversos professed loyalty to Spain
until it was convenient to side with the moors. T.J.B.

isnt the whole 'exodus' story one of kike infiltration
and eventual betrayal of egyptians who allowed jews to enter?

a coupel of "Nazis" explain it,

"In Egypt the scoundrels' scheme succeed only about halfway," he finished.
"The Egyptians became masters of the situation at the last moment and sent the 'mixed multitude' to the devil, together with the Jews.

That portion of the Egyptian nation that had remained patriotic turned the tables and booted Moses, Cohn, and Levi out of the country, followed by the inhabitants whom they had incited. During this exodus they carried along as much stolen booty as they could manage, the Bible reports with satisfaction.

It also reports, in no uncertain terms, that the Egyptians were glad to be rid of them. The best, though, was the reward the Jews gave their stupid accomplices.
Suddenly they began calling them 'rabble,' whereas formerly they had called them 'comrade' and pretended to love them. T.J.B.
Imagine the faces these deluded ones must have made in the desert
when they heard this."

Christianity is so tedious, when one reads her scripture, one is bombarded with improbability and semitic stupidity, and when one witnesses her followers, one is bombarded with fake smiles, forced obedience, and a white guilt cult so deep that it is shaking the foundations of our very existence. Ray is correct: Christianity must go to Hell, preferably.

Christianity is so tedious, when one reads her scripture, one is bombarded with improbability and semitic stupidity, and when one witnesses her followers, one is bombarded with fake smiles, forced obedience, and a white guilt cult so deep that it is shaking the foundations of our very existence. Ray is correct: Christianity must go to Hell, preferably.

Intellectually, a pat on the back means diddly. Any moron can cast a vote - which is all that you have done. This however does not mean that criticism of the modern christian church is not valid. As John Tyndall once wrote in Spearhead:

What passes for Christianity in this country today can only be described as superstitious sociology, a bland doctrine of welfare-mongering with guilt, humility and self-abasement as its cardinal principles. We can only have a contempt for a Church which, in the name of Christianity, facilitates the Islamic occupation of whole neighbourhoods, condones homosexuality, promotes multi-racialism and will forgive everything.

Whereas the catholic writer Dorothy L Sayers once wrote:

In the world it is called Tolerance, but in hell it is called Despair, the sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing, and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die.

Now these are solid reasoned points, not at all like any of the whining babble and baby vomit of anti-christians here.

Even if the White man disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, the evidence for his existence would still be the Xian religion. Anywhere there is a cross anywhere in the world, it says, this is where the White man once stood.

Fitting, is it not? By setting the conditions which would ultimately betray the existence of its sole and exuberant champions, christinsanity ensures its own fall into the realm of dead gods. How can that be a legacy? Unless by a monstrosity of reason.

The old philosopher was right. Christinsanity is truly jewish.

As technological and sociological inevitabilities force us further towards the awaiting abyss, we will come more and more to see that this is the destruction so completely and fearfully poeticized by Isaiah. Beyond that there is no more.

The knights of infinite resignation to the inevitable nothing have settled in.
Extinction is the only god that these poets of excruciation know.

The old philosopher was right. Christinsanity is truly jewish.

.

Then why do the Jews hate it and always have?

Funny how it's always Jews who have always hated christianity with a passion. I guess it must be something in the blood.

Funny how it's always Jews who have always hated christianity with a passion. I guess it must be something in the blood. Jews don't hate Christianity, they hate Christians, and it is not just because they are weak and infantile. But yes, it has something to do about the blood that makes them do so.

On the Jewish hatred towards Christianity

by Professor Israel Shahak


Dishonouring Christian religious symbols is an old religious duty in Judaism. Spitting on the cross, an especially on the Crucifix, and spitting when a Jew passes a church, have been obligatory from around AD 200 for pious Jews. In the past, when the danger of anti-Semitic hostility was a real one, the pious Jews were commanded by their rabbis either to spit so that the reason for doing so would be unknown, or to spit onto their chests, not actually on the cross or openly before the church. The increasing strength of the Jewish state has caused these customs to become more open again but there should be no mistake: The spitting on the cross for converts from Christianity to Judaism, organized in Kibbutz Sa'ad and financed by the Israeli government is a an act of traditional Jewish piety. It does not seize to be barbaric, horrifying and wicked because of this! On the contrary, it is worse because it is so traditional, and much more dangerous as well, just as the renewed anti-Semitism of the Nazis was dangerous, because in part, it played on the traditional anti-Semitic past.

This barbarous attitude of contempt and hate for Christian religious symbols has grown in Israel. In the 1950s Israel issued a series of stamps representing pictures of Israeli cities. In the picture of Nazareth, there was a church and on its top a cross - almost invisible, perhaps the size of a millimeter. Nevertheless, the religious parties, supported by many on the Zionist "left" made a scandal and the stamps were quickly withdrawn and replaced by an almost identical series from which the microscopic cross was withdrawn.

Then there was the long-drawn-out battle about Christian influence in elementary arithmetic. Pious Jews object to the international plus sign for it is a cross, and it may in their opinion, influence little children to convert to Christianity. Another "explanation" holds; it would then be difficult to "educate" them to spit on the cross, if they become used to it in their arithmetic exercises. Until the early 1970s two different sets of arithmetic books were used in Israel. One for the secular schools, employing an inverted "T" sign. In the early '70's the religious fanatics "converted" the Labour Party to the great danger of the cross in arithmetic, and from that time, in all Hebrew elementary schools (and now many high schools as well) the international plus sign has beeen forbidden.

Similar development is visible in other areas of education. Teaching the New Testament was always forbidden, but in the old time conscientious teachers of history used to circumvent the prohibition, by organizing seminars or sending the students to libraries (not the school libraries, of course). About 10 years ago there was a wave of denouncing such teachers. One in Jerualem was almost sacked, for advising her history pupils, who were studying the history of Jews in Palestine around 30-40 AD, that it would be a good thing if they would read a few chapters of the New Testament as a historical aid. She retained her post only after humbly promising not to do this again.

However in recent years, anti-Christian feelings are literally exploding in Israel (and among Israel-worshipping Jews in Diaspora too) together with the increase of the Jewish fanaticism in all other areas too.

The real enemies of truth here, as in many other aspects of the Israel reality, are the socialists, "liberals", "radicals", etc. in the USA. Imagine the reaction of the US Liberals, and of such papers as The Nation and New York Review of Books, not to speak of the New York Times if in any state whatsoever, the government financed spitting on a Star of David? But when here in Israel, the government finances the spitting on a cross, they are and will continue to be, quite silent. More than this, they helpt to finance it. United States taxpayers, who are of course mostly Christians, are finacing at least half the Israeli budget, one way or another, and therfore the spitting on the cross too.




Professor Israel Shahak is an israeli citizen, former concentration camp inmate during WW II, and the founder of Israel's Human Rights League. His book "Jewish History, Jewish Religion" about Jewish hatred and contempt toward Gentiles, is highly recommended.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jewhis1.htm

A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.

The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.


On Sunday, a fracas developed when a yeshiva student spat at the cross being carried by the Armenian Archbishop during a procession near the Holy Sepulchre in the Old City. The archbishop's 17th-century cross was broken during the brawl and he slapped the yeshiva student.

Both were questioned by police and the yeshiva student will be brought to trial. The Jerusalem District Court has meanwhile banned the student from approaching the Old City for 75 days.

But the Armenians are far from satisfied by the police action and say this sort of thing has been going on for years. Archbishop Nourhan Manougian says he expects the education minister to say something.

"When there is an attack against Jews anywhere in the world, the Israeli government is incensed, so why when our religion and pride are hurt, don't they take harsher measures?" he asks.

According to Daniel Rossing, former adviser to the Religious Affairs Ministry on Christian affairs and director of a Jerusalem center for Christian-Jewish dialogue, there has been an increase in the number of such incidents recently, "as part of a general atmosphere of lack of tolerance in the country."

Rossing says there are certain common characeristics from the point of view of time and location to the incidents. He points to the fact that there are more incidents in areas where Jews and Christians mingle, such as the Jewish and Armenian quarters of the Old City and the Jaffa Gate.

There are an increased number at certain times of year, such as during the Purim holiday."I know Christians who lock themselves indoors during the entire Purim holiday," he says.

Former adviser to the mayor on Christian affairs, Shmuel Evyatar, describes the situation as "a huge disgrace." He says most of the instigators are yeshiva students studying in the Old City who view the Christian religion with disdain.

"I'm sure the phenomenon would end as soon as rabbis and well-known educators denounce it. In practice, rabbis of yeshivas ignore or even encourage it," he says.

Evyatar says he himself was spat at while walking with a Serbian bishop in the Jewish quarter, near his home. "A group of yeshiva students spat at us and their teacher just stood by and watched."

Jerusalem municipal officials said they are aware of the problem but it has to be dealt with by the police. Shmuel Ben-Ruby, the police spokesman, said they had only two complaints from Christians in the past two years. He said that, in both cases, the culprits were caught and punished.

He said the police deploy an inordinately high number of patrols and special technology in the Old City and its surroundings in an attempt to keep order.

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