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heaven above
11-11-2004, 12:55 PM
Mr. GRIFFIN MOVES THE GOALPOSTS – AGAIN!

Those receiving this circular will probably be aware of the recent move by the Griffin/Lecomber leadership of the British National Party to suspend me from party membership pending the hearing by a disciplinary tribunal of thirteen – yes, thirteen! -- charges against me.
This suspension and notification of charges came in September, very shortly after I had announced in July that I intended to challenge Mr. Griffin in an election for the party leadership.
I have examined the charges, and all but one of them relate to alleged misdeeds by me taking place not later than May this year. Of those, all but two occurred not later than February this year. In other words, of thirteen charges, ten relate to events that occurred in or before February 2004 – a full seven months before the charges were issued and the suspension made!
All of which invite the question: if I am supposed to have done wrong in respect of these ten charges, why were they not made and I not suspended shortly after February 2004?
The answer should not need spelling out. It was not until July that I announced the intention to stand against Mr. Griffin!
But that is not all.
Mr. Griffin has now made another move. In the latest (November 2004) BNP general members’ bulletin it is announced that a number of changes are being made to the party’s constitution, to take effect from publication of the bulletin. The most significant of these reads as follows:-

Section 6, Discipline: Insert a new Sub-section 2: "Once the constitutionally defined internal disciplinary mechanisms of the party as outlined in this Section are exhausted in regard to the disciplinary procedures and proceedings, then the decision of the disciplinary tribunal is final and binding on the member concerned. As such, members (including those who have been disciplined or expelled) legally affirm and agree that they will not seek any external legal (or non-legal) review of any disciplinary tribunal or its procedures (JT emphasis). They also agree and affirm that they will accept the decision of any disciplinary tribunal as final and binding."

It is blatantly obvious that this new clause is being inserted to prevent me seeking legal redress against the almost certain expulsion that it is intended will result from the hearing of the new charges against me, which has been fixed for December 4th. It will be recalled that following similar charges against me last year, and my subsequent expulsion, I took the matter to law. My solicitor had applied to the High Court in London for a review of the case, having advised me that the court was likely to find in my favour, annul the expulsion and order my reinstatement. At the last moment Mr. Griffin, presumably having been thus advised by his own solicitor, made an out-of-court settlement with me and agreed to annulment and reinstatement. I was reinstated, but the cause of nationalism was rendered over £12,000 the poorer by the costs of the action (which would of course have been immeasurably greater had it gone to court). As it was, this was a high price to pay for Mr. Griffin’s paranoia.
Mr. Griffin knows very well that if I am expelled on his latest charges I shall be forced to do the same again, and bring the matter to law. His latest constitutional manoeuvre is clearly intended to prevent this.
My own case aside, the move is also clearly intended to give the party leadership licence in the future to kick out any other member upon Mr. Griffin’s personal whim if that member happened to meet with his disapproval. All that would be needed would be another kangaroo court appointed by Mr. Griffin or on his authority, which would be comprised of lackeys who could be relied upon to deliver the verdict that he ordered, and against which the victim would have no legal redress.
What is somewhat amusing in the quoted constitutional amendment is the passage which says that members … "will legally affirm and agree…" In what way agree? Perhaps when sitting in a disused warehouse tied to a chair with a pen thrust in their hand and electrodes being held close to their most sensitive parts!
I shall straightaway be placing the matter of this constitutional change in the hands of my solicitor to seek his advice as to whether such a new clause can ever be legally binding – which I suspect it cannot.

JOHN TYNDALL
PO Box 2471
Hove
East Sussex BN3 4DT

White Dragon
11-11-2004, 05:30 PM
http://www.duke.org/conference/saturday/tyndall.jpg

John Tyndall Speaks (http://www.duke.org/conference/saturday.html)

White Dragon
11-11-2004, 06:12 PM
I thought any change to the Constitution has to be ok'd by the whole party membership in a ballot ?

STORMSOLDAAT
11-11-2004, 06:16 PM
[QUOTE=White Dragon]I thought any change to the Constitution has to be ok'd by the whole party membership in a ballot ?[/QUOTE]

No not anymore, it's the Gadaffi way these days!

Griffin is not going to let a silly old constitution or vote get in the way of his plans for his family business!

heaven above
11-11-2004, 06:42 PM
[QUOTE=White Dragon]http://www.duke.org/conference/saturday/tyndall.jpg

John Tyndall Speaks (http://www.duke.org/conference/saturday.html)[/QUOTE]


The pillocks on Stormfront are putting Griffin ahead of John Tyndall in the nationalist speakers vote. Have they heard JT in full flow ? :cool:

White Dragon
11-11-2004, 07:08 PM
From the BNP - MSN Forum

Pakialert: "I have been labelled 1 of "grifffins pets" several times in the past for different reasons but if i am to be honest, when i read the "british nationalist" i instantley linked it to John Tyndall, and because i am pro-griffin does not mean i am anti-tyndall, when i read that article i was disgusted.How can a party leader simply choose who he wants and get rid of the founder of our party? The future will indeed be interesting."

It seems even Nicky boys supporters are a tad pissed off with this.

BrightonWNP
11-12-2004, 04:24 AM
[QUOTE=White Dragon]From the BNP - MSN Forum



It seems even Nicky boys supporters are a tad pissed off with this.[/QUOTE]

That is non other than English & Proud, Sarah who used to post here. Paki Alert is her MSN nickname........

STORMSOLDAAT
11-12-2004, 04:31 AM
If it is her other SF ID. She may not want others to know that mate. Anyway it would mean a ban from SF britain as you are not allowed to have TWO User ID's.

Do me a favor and edit your post. :D

BrightonWNP
11-12-2004, 04:37 AM
[QUOTE=STORMSOLDAAT]If it is her other SF ID. She may not want others to know that mate. Anyway it would mean a ban from SF britain as you are not allowed to have TWO User ID's.

Do me a favor and edit your post. :D[/QUOTE]

You misunderstand, t'is not a SF id!

I'll PM you.

STORMSOLDAAT
11-12-2004, 04:37 AM
It is hard for some of the newbies they want to believe, so much! I was the same when I started. Sadly they will all learn, especially with the money hungry likes of Griffin.

STORMSOLDAAT
11-12-2004, 04:39 AM
[QUOTE=BrightonWNP]You misunderstand, t'is not a SF id!

I'll PM you.[/QUOTE]

Ok mate, cheers. ;)

STORMSOLDAAT
11-12-2004, 05:22 AM
As I have openly said many times. I am not a big fan of JT, that said he is a good honest man and a good solid White Nationalist of many years standing. He in my view would make the ideal adviser to a new leader of WN in this country.

Gadaffi Griffin should never have been allowed into the BNP as Tyndall knew Griffins history with the NF and the chaos his stupid Islamic bootlicking coursed!

Now JT is constantly slagged off and lied about by the boy he allowed into the party. Not only that but Griffin wants to ban the founder and old leader of the BNP from his own party. JT is not the best judge of character let's face it, he allowed this worm in!

JT must be pretty upset at this never ending betrayl, I know I would be!

BrightonWNP
11-12-2004, 07:30 AM
[QUOTE=STORMSOLDAAT]As I have openly said many times. I am not a big fan of JT, that said he is a good honest man and a good solid White Nationalist of many years standing. He in my view would make the ideal adviser to a new leader of WN in this country.

Gadaffi Griffin should never have been allowed into the BNP as Tyndall knew Griffins history with the NF and the chaos his stupid Islamic bootlicking coursed!

Now JT is constantly slagged off and lied about by the boy he allowed into the party. Not only that but Griffin wants to ban the founder and old leader of the BNP from his own party. JT is not the best judge of character let's face it, he allowed this worm in!

JT must be pretty upset at this never ending betrayl, I know I would be![/QUOTE]


I bet you are right, and if I were him, I would be speaking to a soliciter right now!