The issues that are important and vital are as follows:

1. That a person be white.

2. That he have a sense of racial consciousness and racial loyalty.

3. That he understand who the enemy is: the Jews.

If a person is solid on these three key issues, there is no reason not to call him a comrade; and there is no reason to feud with him. Yes, one can have differing opinions on smaller issues, but one shouldn't turn a comrade into an enemy over these minor points.

We see before us a great opportunity. The Bush operatives have organized and harnessd the whtie evangelical Christians into a powerful voting block. This is an organized block of voters who are now beginning to sense their strength and potential for power. And while most of their leaders are corrupt, some are sincere and decent and understand that their agenda is not the same as the Jew's agenda. When two or three years go by, and it becomes obvious to one and all that Bush has betrayed the white Christians in favor of the Jews, some deep divisisions will form within the ranks of the white Christian evangelicals. We should do all that we can to make this coming division as wide and deep as we possibly can, and we should try to make as many friends and allies as we possibly can among the betrayed white evangelicals.

Bascially, we need to stop the stupid bickering and feuding amongst ourselves; and we need to take advantage of the great opportunities that Bush and company will provide us over the next four years.

3. That he understand who the enemy is: the Jews.




[this post is for newbies especially]:

Yes. That is the key, and that is why I am forever grateful to Dr. William Pierce: his National Alliance literature and his radio shows focused on the Jews. I noticed that rather quickly. While other nationalists groaned about Blacks, Mexicans and homosexuals, Pierce stayed 'on point' and kept returning to one topic: the Jews. I later learned why. I urge others to learn from Pierce's example.

In fact, I would go so far as to say: don't waste your time talking about Blacks or Mexicans, because most White people know enough about Blacks and Mexicans.






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The issues that are important and vital are as follows:

1. That a person be white.

2. That he have a sense of racial consciousness and racial loyalty.

3. That he understand who the enemy is: the Jews

If a person is solid on these three key issues, there is no reason not to call him a comrade; and there is no reason to feud with him. Yes, one can have differing opinions on smaller issues, but one shouldn't turn a comrade into an enemy over these minor points.

These three issues are necessary and sufficient for political cooperation and perhaps business association. However for personal association and genuine respect, I would have to add a fourth criterion for them to be sufficient:

4. That he have the traditional White sense of honor; that he be committed to the general proposition of Living White, and not be a degenerate lowlife.



We see before us a great opportunity. The Bush operatives have organized and harnessd the whtie evangelical Christians into a powerful voting block. This is an organized block of voters who are now beginning to sense their strength and potential for power. And while most of their leaders are corrupt, some are sincere and decent and understand that their agenda is not the same as the Jew's agenda. When two or three years go by, and it becomes obvious to one and all that Bush has betrayed the white Christians in favor of the Jews, some deep divisisions will form within the ranks of the white Christian evangelicals. We should do all that we can to make this coming division as wide and deep as we possibly can, and we should try to make as many friends and allies as we possibly can among the betrayed white evangelicals.

I agree with your view of the political opportunity at hand. I would hope that we would be able to agree to disagree on metaphysical matters as long as criteria 1 though 3 were agreed, and especially if 1 through 4 were agreed.


Bascially, we need to stop the stupid bickering and feuding amongst ourselves; and we need to take advantage of the great opportunities that Bush and company will provide us over the next four years.

Excellent post. I agree with your points with the qualifications given above.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The issues that are important and vital are as follows:

1. That a person be white.

2. That he have a sense of racial consciousness and racial loyalty.

3. That he understand who the enemy is: the Jews.

If a person is solid on these three key issues, there is no reason not to call him a comrade; and there is no reason to feud with him. Yes, one can have differing opinions on smaller issues, but one shouldn't turn a comrade into an enemy over these minor points.

We see before us a great opportunity. The Bush operatives have organized and harnessd the whtie evangelical Christians into a powerful voting block. This is an organized block of voters who are now beginning to sense their strength and potential for power. And while most of their leaders are corrupt, some are sincere and decent and understand that their agenda is not the same as the Jew's agenda. When two or three years go by, and it becomes obvious to one and all that Bush has betrayed the white Christians in favor of the Jews, some deep divisisions will form within the ranks of the white Christian evangelicals. We should do all that we can to make this coming division as wide and deep as we possibly can, and we should try to make as many friends and allies as we possibly can among the betrayed white evangelicals.

Bascially, we need to stop the stupid bickering and feuding amongst ourselves; and we need to take advantage of the great opportunities that Bush and company will provide us over the next four years.

Yes, like you, I considered the importance of a sense of honor and basic honesty as a key issue and started to list them as a seperate item. Afterall, we would like our comrades to think and act white as well as be white. But I thought that these character traits would be coverd under number 2, that a person have a sense of racial consciousness and practice racial loyalty. If one is racially conscious and racially loyal, then he will probably be honorable and generally behave himself in a proper Aryan manner. At least he should, because it naturally follows and is expected.

But you are right to focus on these important issues of character.

Yes, like you, I considered the importance of a sense of honor and basic honesty as a key issue and started to list them as a seperate item. Afterall, we would like our comrades to think and act white as well as be white.
You state your own values and assume, as I used to, that other racialists would as a matter of course feel the same way. Many do, but not all--not by a long shot. Regarding your needful words, too many WNs view "White" exclusively as something to "be", but not also something to "act". Almost as if the ADL were writing their ideology, nothing past White of skin means anything to them.


But I thought that these character traits would be coverd under number 2, that a person have a sense of racial consciousness and practice racial loyalty. If one is racially conscious and racially loyal, then he will probably be honorable and generally behave himself in a proper Aryan manner. At least he should, because it naturally follows and is expected.
This is emphatically not the case, for the reason I just gave.

But you are right to focus on these important issues of character.
I watch developments with interest, but I am not holding my breath for White politics. Besides, White politics is pointless without a White community for it to advocate. We're never going to rally a revolution around a morally slack skin color fetish. First let's build a White community based on White Honor and White standards, and then let's talk about politics.

I no longer worry about the things I can't control, but rather I focus on the things I can. I can control my personal conduct to a large degree. I cannot defeat the Jew controlling the media, but I can kill the inner Jew that continues to dwell inside everyday by choosing to Live White.

but I can kill the inner Jew that continues to dwell inside everyday by choosing to Live White.


Wow, great line :)

We see before us a great opportunity. The Bush operatives have organized and harnessd the whtie evangelical Christians into a powerful voting block. This is an organized block of voters who are now beginning to sense their strength and potential for power. And while most of their leaders are corrupt, some are sincere and decent and understand that their agenda is not the same as the Jew's agenda. When two or three years go by, and it becomes obvious to one and all that Bush has betrayed the white Christians in favor of the Jews, some deep divisisions will form within the ranks of the white Christian evangelicals. We should do all that we can to make this coming division as wide and deep as we possibly can, and we should try to make as many friends and allies as we possibly can among the betrayed white evangelicals.
Do you really believe these disenchanted Christians are going to come running on over to our side in "two or three years?" I don't - for the simple reason that evangelicals are the biggest promoters of the Judeo-Christian "brotherhood" myth today. They also enthusiastically endorse the biggest lie ever perpetuated in human history - that jews are God's Chosen People. I see no erosion of belief in the OT stories of jewish "specialness" amongst televangelists and their ilk, do you? What I see more and more of is the exact opposite - a more intense devotion in the worship of the jew and his "moral and mental superiority" over the goyim. "White" men from Clinton to Robertson trip over each other in their mad rush to heap praise upon the forever-innocent ones and their benevolent ways. Anyone who is anybody in the Jeebus game has some sort of "Help Israel" scam going with which to fleece their flock and fatten the already overflowing coffers of the Zionists.

Christian "leaders" in the US today know how to dance to the tune the jew calls, and there's more than enough deterrent in the knowledge that if you criticize the jew or his policies - in any way whatsoever - you're days at the pulpit are numbered. Mr. Fire & Brimstone might as well trash that Mercedes catalogue he got down at the dealership and tell his local Rolex dealer to put that oyster perpetual on hold, because if he publicly names the jew, he will be shut down, tarred and feathered, and run out of town on a rail. He'll soon be on the outside looking in, and that's why we're not going to have a sudden "awakening" amongst the lemmings and a big stampede away from all things jewish. Nah, if anything, Christian head honchos are steering their flocks toward a greater acceptance of the jewish....."way."

They also enthusiastically endorse the biggest lie ever perpetuated in human history - that jews are God's Chosen People.

Is that really the biggest lie ever perpetrated? Bigger than the lie of human equality? It's a toss up!

Is that really the biggest lie ever perpetrated? Bigger than the lie of human equality? It's a toss up!What??? Are you sayin' that we're not all equal in talents and abilities?!?! :eek:

I used to believe that unity would be a good thing, but now I see it will never work. Now that pagans/atheists are seeing the power white Christians have they want to jump on the bandwagon. Go set up your own voting block and leave us to our business. I don’t want unity now. The pagans/atheists just want to use Christians for their own plans now that they realize they cannot do anything without us. You can keep you Jew on a stick comments and fantasies of burning church houses to the ground. I don’t want any part of them. They are just like the Jews they want someone else to do their fighting for them and then they will turn on us as soon as we deliver to them what they cannot do for themselves.

My advice to non-Christians is if you are not a Christian keep your nose out of our business we will set up our own agenda and you try to do whatever it is you have been failing at for centuries. We are just now getting back on our feet and taking this country back and the last Christianity needs is a gaggle of people using stick licker comments and burning church fantasies to try and tell us how to take the country back. Now that everyone is realizing that pagans/atheists who sunk this country in the first place needs us more than we need them.
Unity is not needed and it is not wanted.

I used to believe that unity would be a good thing, but now I see it will never work. Now that pagans/atheists are seeing the power white Christians have they want to jump on the bandwagon. Go set up your own voting block and leave us to our business. I don’t want unity now. The pagans/atheists just want to use Christians for their own plans now that they realize they cannot do anything without us. You can keep you Jew on a stick comments and fantasies of burning church houses to the ground. I don’t want any part of them. They are just like the Jews they want someone else to do their fighting for them and then they will turn on us as soon as we deliver to them what they cannot do for themselves.

My advice to non-Christians is if you are not a Christian keep your nose out of our business we will set up our own agenda and you try to do whatever it is you have been failing at for centuries. We are just now getting back on our feet and taking this country back and the last Christianity needs is a gaggle of people using stick licker comments and burning church fantasies to try and tell us how to take the country back. Now that everyone is realizing that pagans/atheists who sunk this country in the first place needs us more than we need them.
Unity is not needed and it is not wanted.


With all of the comments that I have seen on here lately, I can totally see where you are coming from in saying this. But they are not really ALL like what you describe.

With all of the comments that I have seen on here lately, I can totally see where you are coming from in saying this. But they are not really ALL like what you describe.
Okay so burning it down tonight would be counterproductive. It should be burnt down once we take over and doing so will not get us stamped on. And I do not condone illegal activity. I have to say that whether I believe it or not.

I am concerned at the lack of emotion exhibited by many White racialists. Don't you realise what is required for us to survive? Burning down churches with people inside will be one of the less extreme things that we shall have to do. Why don't you get real.
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=12333


That is all I need to know.

Perhaps you can tell me the difference between fighting a mud that wants my neighborhood, a Jew that wants my country or a pagan/atheist that wants to burn me alive while I am worshiping.

Who is the immediate enemy and who is the most dangerous? Two of them are easily identifiable the other one can sneak in use us and then try to kill us. I don’t make any difference in them and I don’t take any chances with any of them.

There are no good Jews
There are no good muds
And there are no good church burners
And I don’t take any chances with any of them.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=12333


That is all I need to know.

Perhaps you can tell me the difference between fighting a mud that wants my neighborhood, a Jew that wants my country or a pagan/atheist that wants to burn me alive while I am worshiping.

There are no good Jews
There are no good muds
And there are no good church burners
And I don’t take any chances with any of them.


There is absolutely no difference at all. A Pagan or atheist who wants to burn white people in their churches is doing the Jew's work. And they are so stupid they refuse to see that. This George(jewish homo?) and others like him are either looking for a reaction by saying the things they say, or they have some serious mental problems. They are of no use to us.

Do you really believe these disenchanted Christians are going to come running on over to our side in "two or three years?"

Yeah, I'm not quite seeing this either. They have one of their own in the White House taking orders from the jewish G-d H-ms-lf, endless wars against the infidels, the apolcalyptic threat of "terror" and something called "faith based initiatives." Happy, smiling Christlings, like pigs in shiite. Taking the rest of us down the shiiter with them.

I think we need to consider every individual's character. To call a new aquaintance who may be a person of bad character comrade will result in potential embarrassment if not worse.

"The movement" is not so different from normal life in that there is a wide sample of characters. All kinds from liar to honest, hard worker to thief, straight to pervert, and all shades in between. The difficulty, in life, and in the movement, is figuring out who is reliable and who isnt. Time usually tells, but once we get into building things up quickly, time is short.

Be on your guard in all things, is a safe way to operate and people should not take it personally. But dont let caution stop you from action. Strike a reasonable balance between caution and initiative.

But remember Victory is only gained in the offensive.

I never said that in two or three years we could lead the entire mass of Evangelical Christians to our view of things. I simply said that Bush will betray the Christians and reward the Jews and that will create divisions within his coaltion that we can take advantage of. We can make some inroad by making some friends and allies among the more intelligent Christians. And in time, if we are patient and pesistant, these white Christians may come to understand that race is more important than religion in determining whom their true friends are.

It took decades, well over a half century, for the Rapture-cultists to take over what was once the Christian-Protestan churches in America. It could well take that long for us to win them back from this Jew-worshipping cult. But I know that true Christianity is naturally anti-Semitic, just as the Jews know this. We must be patient and continue pointing out the truth to our wayward Christian kinsmen. Believe me, the Jews despise these people; they will blow it. Let us not despise white Christians, also, and by doing so miss the opportunity to influence their thinking and eventually lead many of them back onto the path of racial consciousness.

It's all a matter of patience, persistance and good will. Get the hate out of your heart when it comes to our white kinsmen, the vast majority who are Christians. All of my family are Christians, but I certainly do not hate them. They thought I was crazy when I first broke ranks and became a blatant racist nearly 20 years ago. But now they are gradually changing their thinking and seeing where I have been right about most things. I have not changed my thinking at all. They are slowly coming around, especially my sisters' children who are now grown. I know that I am right, but I won't alienate myself from my family because they don't immediately see things my way. Even my own mother has come to respect my wisdom more and more as the years go by. She now sees that I have been right on most things all along.

This should be our approach with all whites: patience, persistance and good will and the natural love and compassion we must have for our white kinsmen. These things will win for us in time. Hatred and alienation because of a lack of patience will doom us all.

Don't doubt that Bush will give white Christians nothing but wars, increasing poverty and a loss of freedom in the years ahead. These will be hard lessons, but I'm sure that the lessons will be so severe that average white Christians will wake up and smell the coffee in due time.

Most white Chritians, especially in the South and mid-West, know nothing about the Jew because they have never lived with or under the Jew. These people are going to learn about the Jew firsthand soon... the real Jew, not the mythical Jew of the Old Testament.

I have found that most people with a good understanding of race and a will to do something positive for our kind, are typically non-practicing or ex-presbyterians, atheists, or some variety of Catholic. I have not met a ton of people in our thing, so I dont have a good sample. But in all frankness, it seems like evangelical Christians who make a big deal out of evolution are going to be hard pressed to recognize the fundamental biological realities that under-pin racial and ethnic differences. Do these folks seriously believe that the universe came into being in 7 days? That is pretty odd.

Strikes me a reasonable person would seek to believe in as few "miracles" as possible where religion is concerned. People with a tendency to WANT to believe in MORE miracles, for the fun of it or something, dont seem like they are going to have their heads screwed on tight enough to deal with unpleasant facts that demand unequivocal actions.

I've heard people make that argument about all Christians, but I think experience proves otherwise. Again, I think when it comes to comradeship, we need to look past forumlaic statements about doctrine or dogma, and look towards character.

A couple comments: 1) i've read plausible reports that actually evangelicals didn't support bush that much more than other subsets. 2) bush never did anything to help the rapturebunny social agenda, yet they still vote for him, and they still -- see yesterday's article with comments from head of BJU (Bob Jones) -- act like he's a godsend. What can you do with people who think it's raining when you spit in their face, to paraphrase Khrushchev? Most evangelicals will follow their leaders. Pressure the leader, carrot or stick, and he and his followers will come around. It can happen overnight. Logical inconsistency does not trouble these people. They believe in authority because they don't really have any other choice.

For me, I've been pondering this issue a lot lately. I'm torn between the satirical urge to mock and ridicule idiots and dupes and the political urge to bring around as many decent white men as possible. I think I'm going to let the latter win out. Evangelicals will follow good leaders as quickly as bad. I will never pretend to believe, but perhaps VNN can do a 10% better job in collecting and laying out the factual truth about Evangelical misleadership.

What I'm going to do, interrupted by happy Thanksgiving trip to be with relatives, some of whom have spawned fresh Linders, even if under cover of Irish surname, is put together pages "for Christians."

I'd like you with ideas to post here sites and paragraphs and stories and articles that pertain to:

1) dispensationalism - the origins of the peculiar bible reading that is used to justify support for the modern state of israel

2) connections between christian leaders and the organized jewish mafia controlling washington.

3) the best commentary/analysis you've seen treating with 1&2.

Alex - I have recently posted in another thread here in the Civil Forum links and thoughts about the online book "Heaven Words", particularly the chapter dealing with the origin of the Catholic Church.

The author states that most of the ridiculous doctrine and rituals observed by the earliest Roman Christians was done merely to provoke the jew. These Pagan Aryan Romans new it would be impossible for jews to pretend to believe in water-walking, water to wine turning, multiplying loaves, similar to their non-acceptance of the Germanic traditional children's myth of Kris Kringle, flying reindeer, etc.

I've come to hold Christianity as less harmful than I thought perhaps a few years ago when first indroduced to WN. For the great mass of men it is probably no more inherently dangerous than having your 5 year old believe in Santa Claus.

Ultimately, Christianity is a lie with benevolent intent, and some Christian lies actually do help preserve social and therefore racial order. It is crucial that those of us whose foremost loyalty is to the perpetuation of our White racial genes control Christian institutions and not jews or egalitarian sell-outs.

What I'm going to do, interrupted by happy Thanksgiving trip to be with relatives, some of whom have spawned fresh Linders, even if under cover of Irish surname, is put together pages "for Christians."

I'd like you with ideas to post here sites and paragraphs and stories and articles that pertain to:

1) dispensationalism - the origins of the peculiar bible reading that is used to justify support for the modern state of israel

2) connections between christian leaders and the organized jewish mafia controlling washington.

3) the best commentary/analysis you've seen treating with 1&2.

Gore Vidal's new book Imperial America has two chapters devoted to "dispensationalism" and the "jewdough-christian" political connections in government.

Unfortunately, Vidal like so many others, only hints around about what he should say about that ancient cult with a marriage taboo. :rolleyes:

Someone should write to Vidal and point out to Vidal that Charlie Reese is naming the jew. Good job for you Alex, and I'm sure you would save Vidal's reply.

BTW, Imperial America is out in paperback.

I've come to hold Christianity as less harmful than I thought perhaps a few years ago when first indroduced to WN.

Ultimately, Christianity is a lie with benevolent intent,

It is crucial that those of us whose foremost loyalty is to the perpetuation of our White racial genes control Christian institutions
So basically you are saying Christianity is a lie but you want to control it for political or your own selfish purposes. That is the same thing the Jews believes and wants. What I can’t understand is why pagans, Jews and atheists keep their nose out of our churches and religious organizations? You detest us but come in the guise of a friend when it suits your needs, so basically you would lie to us just like the Jews lie to Christians.

I don’t see a difference one liar that wants to harm us is no different than another no matter the skin.

There is no difference in someone wanting to enslave me because of my skin color than there is in someone wanting to enslave me because of my faith. Either is the enemy as far as I am concerned.

BTW I liked that comment about letting Christians into the WN groups and such, like you was doing a crack up job without us around. This last election it was white Christians that kept the Jew out of office no other group. Right now we have the power and we are allowing you into our ranks, but that will soon stop when white Christians realize that we have the power and we don’t need Jews, pagans or atheists trying to run our business and telling us how to worship.

Right now we are ousting the homosexuals the afor mentioned three is next on our lists in no particular order. And for your information it doesn’t matter what you teach your children I have seen a lot of hardcore second and third generation atheists converted to Christianity.

You really need to hammer on the "God's chosen people" lie that all Evangelicals believe in today, the line that they throw back at you whenever you try to educate them about the Jews.

I work at a company with about 400 employees. Many women work there. Almost everyone is a Bible thumper. Several times I have put this proposition out to person that I debate the Bible with. I tell them if they can take the King James Version of the Bible and show me any piece of scripture that directly states that "The Jews are God's Chosen People" or essentially the same words, then I will give them fifty dollars. I get lots of people who jump at the offer, sure they are going to earn the easiest fifty bucks of their life. I tell them to tell their friends, family, co-workers, fellow church members or anyone else about my offer, too. And you know what, I've never had to pay anyone a dime. Because you cannot find any such scripture in the KJV of the Bible. I'm not so sure about newere translations.

Now the Bible does say that God has a sweetheart deal with ancient Israel, but never does it say such a thing about the Jews. And as anyone who knows his Old Testament knows, God did away with ancient Israel for its unbelief and disobedience.

The truth is, Christians are God's chosen people. The New Testament plainly states this. The Apostle Paul says this in his epistles. He says plainly that while once ancient Israel had God's sweetheart deal, He took it from them and now has annointed believers in Christ with this special chosen status. For centuries all Christians understood this. But only in the last few decades have Christians forgotten about their choseness and given this special status to the Jews... and the Jews (who are a corrupted remnant of Judah who returned from Babylon) have never been God's chosen. God's only purpose for even allowing them to survive was to use as a foil -- just as he used Judas Iscariot -- to persecute and crucify Jesus.

Christianity basically goes like this: 1. God gave eternal life and happiness to Adam (and his descendants, all men) in the Garden of Eden. Adam only had to keep one little rule. Adam failed, which proves God is perfect but man is flawed. 2. So God gives a select group of people a second chance, the ancient Hebrews. He gives them his law. If they can keep it, they can yet attain paradise. They cannot. They fail repeatedly. God revokes the offer. 3. This all just proves God's basic points: God is perfect, and man is flawed. Therefore, man needs God's grace through Jesus Christ. 4. So God uses a corrupt and degenerate remnant of his former chosen people -- the Jews -- as foils to reject and sacrifice his son in a final act of man's depravity and to illustrate God's grace and perfection. 5. Which just proves that all things that are natural and of the flesh, as man is, are imprefect. God proves this with his deals with Adam and with ancient Israel. They both failed. Only a spiritual man -- the Christian -- can succeed, and not because he is good himself, but only because he accepts God's perfect gift, Jesus Christ.

This is the basic outline of the Bible. I don't believe it, but I understand it well enough. It is essentially what Protestantism was all about for about 400 years. There is nothing in the script about Jews being "chosen". It is simply never stated in the Bible. All Christians understood for hundreds of years that the Jews were the arch villians of the Bible, Judas multiplied into a whole people. Read the Book of John if you want a true understanding of the Jew. Anti-Semitic -- ITZ! And yet today millions of American rapture-bunny Jew-worshipping cultists are fixated upon the Jews as God's chosen people, etc. when everything inside the Bible tells us the exact opposite story.

I don't argue this stuff with most rapture cultists in this kind of depth. I just make them the fifty-dollar offer and let them spend the weekend educating themselves. The one's who come back genuniely amazed and curious, I explain it to.

You really need to hammer on the "God's chosen people" lie that all Evangelicals believe in today,
I didn’t want to quote your entire post.

Another thing that is strongly misunderstood is the concept of Israel. People today think it has to do with the actual piece of dirt in the Middle East, but as I have stated in my book “little things that cause big problems” God has no use whatsoever for a piece of dirt stuck in a barren land.

Also people think of Abraham, Moses and others as Jews when in fact they were Hebrews. These people couldn’t be Jews since the term hadn’t been mentioned yet. The term was only mentioned for a people from a geographical area “Judah” and then misunderstood.

I think the approach of letting people search thing out for themselves is a good one as that is what I use. In my new book that I am working on “things not found in the bible” a great many of Judeo Christian ideologies are challenged and I encourage the reader to search for themselves and find these doctrines that plague us.

I am working on a new work but it is taking much longer than expected that covers the history of the idea of the dispensationalist ideology. Even though I have over a thousand religious books in my library and Internet access not being at college has greatly hindered me because when I was there I had access to over 50,000 books. When I move back to Kentucky there is a religious college there that has a couple of hundred thousand books and publications on hand for research.

In the realms of religious writings I have several projects at once (as I now have a greater load as a minister) and I don’t have as much time to devote to the WN aspect as I would like to. Given two bible studies a week and two sermons not to mention the charts and smaller publications I provide for the congregation I attend now I don’t have nearly the amount of time to devote to everything I want to.

This last election it was white Christians that kept the Jew out of office no other group.

What did I miss? Were Wolfowitz, Feith, Libby & Co. just fired? Bill Kristol's Weekly Standard will no longer influence foreign policy? So far, the White Christling electoral victory of your co-religionists Dobson, Falwell, Robertson, Reed, etc. can be thanked for some big non-White promotions: Alberto Gonzles as A-G in better position to push for Mexcrement amnesty, and Congoleeza to clean house of even the mildest anti-zionist dissent at State. In case it weren't obvious enough, worshipping the j-w G-d serves j-w interests.

the only good things I will say about evangelicals is two things. first, they have a domestic political agenda that is mostly wholesome. mom and apple pie stuff as opposed to jewish dreck and decay. secondly, they are apparently wholeheartedly committed to the explusion of Arabs. I'm not looking at this in the anti-Arab sense-- I have very little against Worthy Oriental Gentlemen ;) but I think that as a cohesive White non-Jewish group with a sense of willingness to put the OTHER to the sword, they have "growth potential."

The Jews play with fire, because subtract out the Fallwells and such, and install some leaders who say the JEW is the OTHER, and all this pro-zionist stuff might go bye-bye "pdq."

In all seriousness, I think that televangelists are usually sexually licentious, and when they go on these "holy land tours" the mossad probably tapes them in flagrante delicto with Israeli whores. Copy that all these US generals going on JINSA junkets to Israel. Blackmail stuff. That is how the homo mafia has operated in different circles for years. Oh and dont forget "Rahab" the whore that betrayed Jerhico to the ancient Israelites.

So basically you are saying Christianity is a lie but you want to control it for political or your own selfish purposes.
The only worthwhile "selfish" purpose is the preservation of genes that produce high culture. Presently Christianity promotes racially universalist salvation through some common God among Congoids, Mongoloids, Australoids and Caucasoids. This is harmful.

That is the same thing the Jews believes and wants.
I'm saying until our average member of the White gene pool feels no need for supernatural explanations for rational phenomena and can face his individual mortality fearlessly there will be need for some catchy religion, like Christianity, so until that day arrives the elite members of our race must protect the masses from falling into the hands of our international manipulator enemies.
What I can’t understand is why pagans, Jews and atheists keep their nose out of our churches and religious organizations? You detest us but come in the guise of a friend when it suits your needs, so basically you would lie to us just like the Jews lie to Christians.
I don’t see a difference one liar that wants to harm us is no different than another no matter the skin.

The intent and effect of the lie is ultimately benevolent whenever a racially loyal White man has his hands on the reins of the church as opposed to a hostile jewish enemy.

Once again I would like to recommend Gore Vidal's Imperial America. The Marc Cooper interview of Vidal that Alex featured on VNN really doesn't do justice to the book. Cooper is speaking to a primarily jewish or shabbos goy audience and he may not understand Vidal's analysis of the "dispensationalists". Is Marc Cooper a jew? I dunno. Could be a catholic?

The term evangelist is getting thrown around all over the place by jews and catholics. My understanding of the word evangelist is the word is rooted in the evangelists of the Gospels i.e Matthew, Mark, Luke & John.

In Germany the evangelist church is the protestant church...

RE: AE


I think for the most part the term evangelicals refer to the rapture bunnies who have turned religion into a multi-million dollar business. Through the marketing of music and books they have turned Christianity into a profitable business and it is more of an entertainment venue than it is a religion.

While I don’t think they reflect the majority of mainstream Christians they do get their money from somewhere. But also they like to lump themselves together with those of us that believe in the autonomy of the local congregation. Which (and baptism by immersion) is what separates the majority of us from Catholicism.

The idea of converting the mud people actually is a move to civilize them. It really is a good idea since going around slaughtering people for no reason is detestable by any standard so the only other thing you can do is civilize them. The criminal element should and by any true Christian standard would be dealt with accordingly.


RE: LUX

I was responding to Edberg so I wasn’t aware if his statements reflected your thoughts, but thanks for you input. I understand what you are saying to a point. I think our Christian organizations have been invaded by Jews and greedy white men with agendas other than religion. However I think it should be left up to us as Christians to clean our own houses. Those not affiliated with Christianity on a daily basis cannot see what is happening at the moment.

Christianity goes though and invasion every couple hundred years or so by those with selfish or political agendas. Sure right now Bush is not pro-white but he is white and not a Jew like Kerry. Christians didn’t really have a choice in this election but not voting for the Jew I think reflected that it is not as bad of a state as some would have you believe. Under Bush we will have more freedom of religion and freedom of the right to bear arms. This will give us (Christians) room to maneuver. Christians are being awakened to the televised fraud that claims to be the “electric church”. The point of televised churches is to take the community feel an obligation away from the local congregation (thus the CofC belief in the congregational autonomy) and put their finances and work towards one central group that could care less about the invasion going on next door.

When Christianity turns on these charlatans you will see a rebuilding of the local community and local congregation. The millions of dollars given yearly to these frauds (and you get nothing but lies in return) is becoming obvious to people, they are not getting their miracles and they are realizing that only their local congregation gives back to their community. I think it may take a while but when we get Christians back in to their local congregations and preachers with the local communities best interests at heart, and away from the convenience of the televised hypocrites we will have and awakening and a rebuilding.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6650997/site/newsweek/

Just for a second suppose you were really trying to upset a jew in an argument.
Tell him you believe that something that is impossible actually happened.

Tell him if he doesn't agree with you he's going to burn in flames for eternity.

Pretty nice tactic for polarizing fence sitters, eh?

I think maybe only Jews and their lackeys are going to hell. In the sense that knowledge is one of the elements of culpability, the Jews are in a special place where "ignorance is no excuse" such as is the case with pagans. In other words, maybe one of the significances of why would God locate Himself Incarnate in Judea, is that by locating Himself there he barred them from pleading ignorance at Judgment Day.

Thus any Jew who steadfastly adheres to the Jewish cult and honors his ancestor's adherence to the wicked conspiracy, without repudiating Jewry actively via baptism, and living un upstanding non-Jewish life thereafter, is definitely "going to hell" as they say. I think that is a very traditional Christian belief about the Jews which has only been muddled this past century.

John the Baptist called them a "nest of vipers" and said that they would be chaff separated from the grain and cast into the "unquenchable fire."

Non-Whites may or may not have eternal souls for all I know, they dont. jews may have enough White blood hybridized into them to have souls-

>LOL

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6650997/site/newsweek/

Just for a second suppose you were really trying to upset a jew in an argument.
Tell him you believe that something that is impossible actually happened.

Tell him if he doesn't agree with you he's going to burn in flames for eternity.

Pretty nice tactic for polarizing fence sitters, eh?

LOL. It works on jews.

When I was younger I often wondered why jews just didn't like me? I didn't consider myself an anti-semite. I guess itz just one of those things that comes naturally to some people.

The virgin birth of Christ is also one to bring up when a jew or a shabbos goy says, well Christ was a jew. You can always respond. Oh, so jews believe in the virgin birth of Christ!

BTW, the moslems believe in the virgin birth of Christ, yet they don't believe Christ was GOD! It's in the Koran.

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We're never going to rally a revolution around a morally slack skin color fetish. First let's build a White community based on White Honor and White standards, and then let's talk about politics.
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Outstanding observation! My sentiments exactly!

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My advice to non-Christians is if you are not a Christian keep your nose out of our business we will set up our own agenda and you try to do whatever it is you have been failing at for centuries.
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Well said Brother!
I'm still trying to figure out what the Pagans in this movement are babbling about when it comes to the Jew problem. Their minuscule efforts over the last 2000 years have been insignificant at best... and have even played into the Jew agenda! The moral depravity and social decay that the pagans bring with them are a delight to the Evil Ones.

The Jews are afraid of the Christian Faith because those that follow it are usually the ones... historically... who exterminate and exile the “Children of Satan.”
;)

This thread started with what is more or less could be called religious precepts: The significant issues

The issues that are important and vital are as follows:
1. That a person be white.
2. That he have a sense of racial consciousness and racial loyalty.
3. That he understand who the enemy is: the Jews.

For an interesting comparison, substititute:
the word SAVED for WHITE in precept 1,
"born again-baptized-public confirmation of salvation" with precept 2,
the word SATAN for the Jews.

I've started to associate SATAN with the part of the world's population that is genetically unredeemable.

The precept that a person be White requires some defined limitations, right?

In the confused age we live in, numerous thin nosed tall, blonde-haired blue-eyed people call themselves "jews" despite insignifcant genetics linking themselves to the biblically chronicled semites. Would recent White "converts" to the synagogue of SATAN be forbidden into a proposed White Nation?

Likewise, a certain percentage of "Italian Catholics" are in fact of forever genetically unredeemable significantly semitic stock. Would these "Whites" whose behavior and appearance betray their genes be forbidden into our White Nation?

These facts frustrate me as to what would be a just standard in creating a White body politic. Perhaps one day the application of the science of genetics and haplotype markers specifically will be useful for questionable cases.

I don't think having the "correct" answer to, "Was our Lord born of the Virgin Mary?" should have any role if our intent is to form the most jew-resistant, highest quality White Nation possible. Surely someday our people must be liberated from age old impossibilties designed as jew-baiting, posing as spiritual doctrine. Why not now?

This thread started with what is more or less could be called religious precepts: The significant issues

The issues that are important and vital are as follows:
1. That a person be white.
2. That he have a sense of racial consciousness and racial loyalty.
3. That he understand who the enemy is: the Jews.

For an interesting comparison, substititute:
the word SAVED for WHITE in precept 1,
"born again-baptized-public confirmation of salvation" with precept 2,
the word SATAN for the Jews.

I've started to associate SATAN with the part of the world's population that is genetically unredeemable.

The precept that a person be White requires some defined limitations, right?

In the confused age we live in, numerous thin nosed tall, blonde-haired blue-eyed people call themselves "jews" despite insignifcant genetics linking themselves to the biblically chronicled semites. Would recent White "converts" to the synagogue of SATAN be forbidden into a proposed White Nation?

Likewise, a certain percentage of "Italian Catholics" are in fact of forever genetically unredeemable significantly semitic stock. Would these "Whites" whose behavior and appearance betray their genes be forbidden into our White Nation?

These facts frustrate me as to what would be a just standard in creating a White body politic. Perhaps one day the application of the science of genetics and haplotype markers specifically will be useful for questionable cases.

I don't think having the "correct" answer to, "Was our Lord born of the Virgin Mary?" should have any role if our intent is to form the most jew-resistant, highest quality White Nation possible. Surely someday our people must be liberated from age old impossibilties designed as jew-baiting, posing as spiritual doctrine. Why not now?


When our Country, our Democracy and our Constitution & Bill of Rights are saved from the jews & other pagans and their shabbos goy it will be White Christian Gentlemen who do it.

This thread started with what is more or less could be called religious precepts: The significant issues

The issues that are important and vital are as follows:
1. That a person be white.
2. That he have a sense of racial consciousness and racial loyalty.
3. That he understand who the enemy is: the Jews.

For an interesting comparison, substititute:
the word SAVED for WHITE in precept 1,
"born again-baptized-public confirmation of salvation" with precept 2,
the word SATAN for the Jews.

I've started to associate SATAN with the part of the world's population that is genetically unredeemable.

The precept that a person be White requires some defined limitations, right?

In the confused age we live in, numerous thin nosed tall, blonde-haired blue-eyed people call themselves "jews" despite insignifcant genetics linking themselves to the biblically chronicled semites. Would recent White "converts" to the synagogue of SATAN be forbidden into a proposed White Nation?

Likewise, a certain percentage of "Italian Catholics" are in fact of forever genetically unredeemable significantly semitic stock. Would these "Whites" whose behavior and appearance betray their genes be forbidden into our White Nation?

These facts frustrate me as to what would be a just standard in creating a White body politic. Perhaps one day the application of the science of genetics and haplotype markers specifically will be useful for questionable cases.

I don't think having the "correct" answer to, "Was our Lord born of the Virgin Mary?" should have any role if our intent is to form the most jew-resistant, highest quality White Nation possible. Surely someday our people must be liberated from age old impossibilties designed as jew-baiting, posing as spiritual doctrine. Why not now?

Excellent points, LUX. We will either be an exclusively Aryan movement out to secure the gene pool and living space of our unique sub-species, or we'll be a Xian movement, BUT NOT BOTH! Like the Jew Book says: Thou can not serve two masters (especially when one of them is a non-existent creation of thine's eternal enemy, I might add).

Whenever I'm sizing up a White man I first establish his race and his position on race; that's easy. I don't waste any more time on a man who doesn't have his racial instincts intact, or if he doesn't pass what I call the "3-second face test."

If my target passes this first critical smell test then I get right to the issue of the Jew. That one is fun and usually separates the special man from the mob.

I do not stop there, however. I want to establish if this racist Jew-fighter is a Xian. If he is, we have hit a wall. Then I must put on my deprogrammer hat and see if I can de-Judaize the fellow. If 80 million Germans could be "de-Nazified," I figure, surely a couple of hundred million Aryans can be de-judaized, right? If the fellow doesn't respond well initially, I might give him some literature on the subject and let him digest it. He's not ready for prime time. I'll also steer him to some Xian patriot organization to think things through, if he's a joiner. Most "conversions" to sanity from irrational beliefs are not immediate.

When our Country, our Democracy and our Constitution & Bill of Rights are saved from the jews & other pagans and their shabbos goy it will be White Christian Gentlemen who do it.
Well said Polybius! That is very true.

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If my target passes this first critical smell test then I get right to the issue of the Jew. That one is fun and usually separates the special man from the mob.

I do not stop there, however. I want to establish if this racist Jew-fighter is a Xian. If he is, we have hit a wall. Then I must put on my deprogrammer hat and see if I can de-Judaize the fellow.
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Oh Boy! You Pagans really love to shoot your mouths off.
If we've established that we have a common enemy... why is it so important to you that we remove Faith from the picture? Why is so important for you to dominate our thought process White Will?

Kinda makes me wonder...

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For us in the above ground elements, our most VITAL WORK is to EXPOSE THE JEWS to the maximum extent possible - legally and persuasively.
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Well said Glenn.
I guess the last two decades have brought you around to a proper state of mind.
Its too bad we can't reverse the massive damage that has occurred to our cause over the last two decades. You know? Like the psychotic, antisocial and unproductive behavior that has resulted from the hero worship of criminals and idiots. And let us not forget the stranglehold that ZOG has on many of our members because they fell into this ridiculous mentality.

Better late than never... right?
:rolleyes:

When our Country, our Democracy and our Constitution & Bill of Rights are saved from the jews & other pagans and their shabbos goy it will be White Christian Gentlemen who do it.

If so, the whole "turn the other cheek " mentality must be replaced with the "turn over the tables in the temple" mentality when Whites deal with non-Whites and jews.

Have you read "Which Way Western Man" by William Gayley Simpson?

If you haven't you owe it to yourself this Christmas. The worst it could do would be to sharpen and prepare your critical abilities when fellow Whites force you to defend Christ.

For me was an interesting insight into how a very devout and committed man of the cloth came to change his mind about Christ, democracy and egalitarianism. If he made a fallacious choice I'd like to hear your explanantion as to where.

If so, the whole "turn the other cheek " mentality must be replaced with the "turn over the tables in the temple" mentality when Whites deal with non-Whites and jews.

Have you read "Which Way Western Man" by William Gayley Simpson?

If you haven't you owe it to yourself this Christmas. The worst it could do would be to sharpen and prepare your critical abilities when fellow Whites force you to defend Christ.

For me was an interesting insight into how a very devout and committed man of the cloth came to change his mind about Christ, democracy and egalitarianism. If he made a fallacious choice I'd like to hear your explanantion as to where.

Yep. I believe in turning the other cheek. Before, I knock 'em down, and, kick 'em for falling. :p