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Agis
November 14th, 2004, 07:14 AM
Here are a few key areas where Nationalists differ from the prevailing Liberal, Communist, Conservative, Libertarian worldview:
1. Government is revered - It's an institution that gets things done, such as: maintaining Race Laws, deporting illegal aliens, excecuting criminals, etc.
2. National Socialist economic outlook:. e.g public utilities, basic health care and social security for workers, subsidized education for student elite, etc.
3. Racially oriented - Which is to say family-oriented which is to say Patriarchy. No equally between the races - no equality between men and women. Complementary sexes = complementary occupations.
4. Reason before Religion - No convoluted cloud worshippers need apply. Are you a muzzy, buddist, joodayo, christian, christna, moony wack job ? You don't qualify !
Antiochus Epiphanes
November 14th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Jewess Ayn Rand sensed this. She tarred "nazis" and advocates of ethnostates of every variety with the same brush- "collectivists."
Ironically, she didnt include Jewish Zionists in that "collective." And if you go to the ARI web page today, it is one Israeli apology after another.
Mike
November 14th, 2004, 10:43 PM
Here are a few key areas where Nationalists differ from the prevailing Liberal, Communist, Conservative, Libertarian worldview:
1. Government is revered - It's an institution that gets things done, such as: maintaining Race Laws, deporting illegal aliens, excecuting criminals, etc.
"Revered" is a little strong. A government is worthy of support to the extent that it supports the well being of the race, on that much we're agreed.
One thing I would make explicit: I would vastly prefer a government of laws rather than of men. I have seen the "leadership principle" in action on the small scale, and frankly I shudder at thought of it being applied on the large. Due process and accountability should not be discarded lightly. This is anglo saxon America after all. Men may not be equal, but the law should be applied equally among co-racials.
2. National Socialist economic outlook:. e.g public utilities, basic health care and social security for workers, subsidized education for student elite, etc.
What I would like to see in an economic policy is a greater tendency to stability and rootedness, and support for the family. As a people, we Americans move around too much, and shift jobs too often. I do not believe it is healthy to be in a constant state of flux. We need to settle down and develop roots in our communities, and adopt a more stable lifestyle, even if that means a slightly less dynamic economy and lower standard of living.
Every effort should be made to get women back into their homes. This would include a living wage for working men. Thanks to the age of technology and information, in some cases, it may be possible for women to work from home via Internet and whatnot, if required.
3. Racially oriented - Which is to say family-oriented which is to say Patriarchy. No equally between the races - no equality between men and women. Complementary sexes = complementary occupations.
Agreed.
4. Reason before Religion - No convoluted cloud worshippers need apply. Are you a muzzy, buddist, joodayo, christian, christna, moony wack job ? You don't qualify !
There should be a complete separation of church and state. I would not like a militantly dogmatic atheist regime any more than I would like Christian theocracy. Reason is the starting point, but since no one really can prove what "ultimate reality" is, White men should be allowed to speculate on matters metaphysical and come up with their own conclusions.
Dresden
November 15th, 2004, 01:38 AM
I would recommend;
6. No wars for the benefit of profit or another race. If a war is imperative, then the children, or the grandchildren of the leaders who advance the interest of war should also be made to fight, in fact they should be drafted first. If the war is of such great necessity to sacrifice the lives of our countrymen, then the war should have enough meaning where the leaders are more than willing to make the ultimate sacrifice, fighting themselves if nescessary.
Dresden
P.S. 'No Jews' should be # 1.
Agis
November 15th, 2004, 03:44 AM
Jewess Ayn Rand sensed this. She tarred "nazis" and advocates of ethnostates of every variety with the same brush- "collectivists."
Ironically, she didnt include Jewish Zionists in that "collective." And if you go to the ARI web page today, it is one Israeli apology after another.
Government is how a Nation manages its affairs. Civilized, prosperous societies, as well as their opposites, are strictly man-made. It all depends on which group is better organized and which group has the upperhand.
One thing I would make explicit: I would vastly prefer a government of laws rather than of men. I have seen the "leadership principle" in action on the small scale, and frankly I shudder at thought of it being applied on the large. Due process and accountability should not be discarded lightly. This is anglo saxon America after all. Men may not be equal, but the law should be applied equally among co-racials.
A "government of laws" however is also a "government of men" because men make the laws and other men interpret them. We can either be discouraged by present displays of vulgarity and historical pessimism, or throw in our hats with reformers and do as much damage to Ugliness and Stupidity as is possible in our lifetime - even without the hope of ultimate victory.
This could be called 'a Stoic Verfassung'.
Antiochus Epiphanes
November 15th, 2004, 11:04 AM
Government is how a Nation manages its affairs. Civilized, prosperous societies, as well as their opposites, are strictly man-made. It all depends on which group is better organized and which group has the upperhand.
A "government of laws" however is also a "government of men" because men make the laws and other men interpret them. We can either be discouraged by present displays of vulgarity and historical pessimism, or throw in our hats with reformers and do as much damage to Ugliness and Stupidity as is possible in our lifetime - even without the hope of ultimate victory.
This could be called 'a Stoic Verfassung'.
well said!
Anima Eternae
November 15th, 2004, 11:52 AM
1. Government is revered - It's an institution that gets things done, such as: maintaining Race Laws, deporting illegal aliens, excecuting criminals, etc.
That's a basic tenet political realist philosophy. Machiavelli and other realists (and to an extent constitutional liberals) shared this viewpoint.
2. National Socialist economic outlook:. e.g public utilities, basic health care and social security for workers, subsidized education for student elite, etc.
I admit this sounds pretty good. The problem is, we know where planned economies (if that's what you're getting at) go....nowhere. I think some of the Nordic countries have a good balance of social welfare and the free market.
3. Racially oriented - Which is to say family-oriented which is to say Patriarchy. No equally between the races - no equality between men and women. Complementary sexes = complementary occupations.
Sure, I can agree here. But is there equality within races, as well? (It's a rhetorical question). In other words, what happens to the bottom end spectrum IQ lads in a WN nation?
4. Reason before Religion - No convoluted cloud worshippers need apply. Are you a muzzy, buddist, joodayo, christian, christna, moony wack job ? You don't qualify !
Amen. Though I must say it's unfit to lump Buddhists in with zealous Christians and Moonies.
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Antiochus Epiphanes
November 15th, 2004, 12:53 PM
.........Sure, I can agree here. But is there equality within races, as well? (It's a rhetorical question). In other words, what happens to the bottom end spectrum IQ lads in a WN nation?
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That is the role of castes in traditional society. Everybody has their place. Sudras / chandala at the bottom. Somebody needs to sweep the streets in Denmark. Better dense White boys than Arabs.
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