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prozak
11-15-2004, 10:00 AM
ARE YOU TIRED OF RELIGION?

When no clear thinking is present, people turn to a catch-all solution:
religion. Not only does it give them an imaginary world in which to
retreat when this one gets difficult, but it also gives them the
"authority" to create in the real world an imitation of their fantasy
world. "God told me to" is the oldest con-artist line in history.

BUT CONSIDER: OTHER THINGS ARE LIKE RELIGION TOO

There are many religions. Drugs can be a religion, if you start
treating the fantasy white rabbit land like it is real. Money is a
religion for most people, as are certain political and social beliefs
that, because they please most people in a crowd, have the same ring
of truth (?) that "God told me to" apparently does.

RELIGION IS A METHOD OF THINKING

Obviously, the heaven-in-the-sky people are one brick short of a load.
And those who worship money or technology or crowd-pleasing are
mentally broken also. But the same style of thinking can be applied to
anything, if the people thinking about it are willing to forego reality
for a pleasant illusion. What is to be done?

SMASH RELIGIOUS THINKING BY DENYING ITS VALUE

If someone comes up to you with a religious proposition, treat it like
the fantasy it is. Yep, that's great, glad you think God will give us
golden toilets if we sacrifice the unbelievers. God told you to invade
Iraq? That's hilarious. And God says we are all equal? What a fun
movie that would make.

You can also take action (1) directly against religion and (2) through
philosophical discourse which circumnavigates religious thinking.

Burn the church and synagogue.
http://www.churcharson.com/

A lifestyle should not be a religion.
http://www.corrupt.org/

Money as the new god? That's funny.
http://www.fuckcapitalism.com/

Let's throw them to the Lions.
http://www.fuckchrist.com/

Proud to be not brainwashed.
http://www.heathen.org/

Servitude is a religion.
http://www.ihatejobs.com/

Clear away fantasy and see reality.
http://www.nihil.org/

SPREAD THESE URLs ANYWHERE THAT RELIGION HAS CONTROL

Because religion is absolute, it cannot admit a differing point of
view and will use insults, lies, etc. to attempt to defame and
obfuscate the truth. In order to think that way, one must be very
prone to sudden reaction; because of that, any time you post one of
these links and gain public attention, the religious will reveal
themselves by freaking out and attempting to destroy it.

Show the world religion is bunk. Take the URLs and one-line text
above and spend even one minute posting them into message boards and
emails. The response will show others how pervasive religion and
insanity is in this society.

(c) 2004 Necrocapitalist.org

Abzug Hoffman
11-15-2004, 10:39 AM
Where's the link to fuckzionism?

When you're done with your degenerate vandalism the only religion left, with sacred writings and theologians and all, will be the jewish.

Abzug Hoffman
11-15-2004, 10:43 AM
[QUOTE=prozak]

A lifestyle should not be a religion.
http://www.corrupt.org/

[/QUOTE]

Oh, great, we are going to have hippies again... That's just perfect.

prozak
11-15-2004, 01:19 PM
[QUOTE=Abzug Hoffman]Where's the link to fuckzionism?

When you're done with your degenerate vandalism the only religion left, with sacred writings and theologians and all, will be the jewish.[/QUOTE]

You must've missed these two:

Burn the church and synagogue.
http://www.churcharson.com/

Let's throw them to the Lions.
http://www.fuckchrist.com/

If all that's left is European paganism, then I'm happy. LOL

Hitler Goddess
11-15-2004, 04:06 PM
You can also take action (1) directly against religion and (2) through
philosophical discourse which circumnavigates religious thinking.

Burn the church and synagogue.
http://www.churcharson.com/

A lifestyle should not be a religion.
http://www.corrupt.org/

Money as the new god? That's funny.
http://www.fuckcapitalism.com/

Let's throw them to the Lions.
http://www.fuckchrist.com/

Proud to be not brainwashed.
http://www.heathen.org/

Servitude is a religion.
http://www.ihatejobs.com/

Clear away fantasy and see reality.
http://www.nihil.org/

SPREAD THESE URLs ANYWHERE THAT RELIGION HAS CONTROL


So, which is it with you? Are you desperately trying to get a reaction, or are you psychotic?

Hitler Goddess
11-15-2004, 04:30 PM
Good point. However, in my lexicon, it is the attitude that is more important than those who convey it.

[COLOR=Red]The White Nationalist community, as a whole, endorses this silliness. It's gutter bigotry and it defames us and plays into the propaganda of our enemies[/COLOR].

In my view, it is positive to assert our will independently, but it is destructive to come across as thugs and low-lifes.

Further, I think it's clear that our biggest enemy is not the forces without - non-whites - but the lack of values among whites, including in the White Nationalist community.

Racial decline, soulless existence, bureaucratic government are symptoms of the decline in Indo-European/Caucasian/White values, not the cause of it.



This Prozak Character is quite amusing. In the above post, he seems to be agreeing with Fade the Butcher in another thread.

Hey, Prozak, don't you think talking about killing white Christians would be classified as this "gutter bigotry"? Or do you only have a problem with this so-called "gutter bigotry" when it is directed at niggers and Jews?

Bragi
11-15-2004, 04:40 PM
[QUOTE=Abzug Hoffman]Where's the link to fuckzionism?

When you're done with your degenerate vandalism the only religion left, with sacred writings and theologians and all, will be the jewish.[/QUOTE]

judaism is not a religion. The jew merely passes it off as a religion to attain all the corresponding benefits that "official religion" status brings.

judaism is merely a euphemism for an international crime syndicate with primary headquarters in Tel Aviv, New York, and Los Angeles. judaism, the word, is like Freemasonry. Or the Knights Templar. Or the Bilderbergers. The jews are a race. They are a tribe. They are a collection of inbred psychotics bent on world domination. Religion: The Masquerade.

People like to talk about how intelligent jews are, citing such geniuses as Sigmund Fraud, Franz "the serpent" Boa, and the greatest plagiarist and intellectual thief of all time Albert "the wacky jew" Einstein, father of the MOAB, so we're told.

So if jews are so intelligent, how come the majority of them are avowed atheists? If their religion is indeed a religion, how is it that there is no god involved?

You christians worship the god of a semitic tribe. Sheer lunacy, itz. The only thing unique about Christianity was it's pushing of monotheism-one god in place of the pagans' many. The key aspect of this is centralization. All must worship one, as opposed to all worshipping as they see fit.

Christianity is the worst thing that ever happened to Occidental Civilization and the greatest scam the jews ever pulled off. Ever! And now we are living amongst the insanity that this accursed religion has engendered in our society.

sean(doc)martin
11-15-2004, 05:35 PM
[QUOTE=Keystone]HG, the folks in the "movement" who want to kill white Chistians and Christianity are past the gutter, into the sewer. Fortunately, the are a tiny minority.
[/QUOTE]
[SIZE=3]Notice also that those that want to burn Christians go out of their way to conceal any person information about themselves. While Christians like myself, A.J Balfour, Folkishchristian, Vonbluvens (David Duke of Stormfront) and yech even Martin Lindstedt and of course A.E to a point don’t hide their real name or location.

What are they afraid of? It is not ZOG because ZOG could have any of our addresses in a few minutes if they wanted them. It must be that they are terrified of Christians.




BTW Key that was one of the better posts I have seen here, keep up the good work. [/SIZE]

prozak
11-15-2004, 06:08 PM
[QUOTE=hitler goddess]Hey, Prozak, don't you think talking about killing white Christians would be classified as this "gutter bigotry"? Or do you only have a problem with this so-called "gutter bigotry" when it is directed at niggers and Jews?[/QUOTE]

No, I don't. I think "gutter bigotry" is blaming negroes and jews for what is clearly a mistake within the white race: liberalism (and as a subset of it, Christianity).

Decadent values invite parasites.

Fade's posts here are very useful because they point out why people who act like bigots play into the hands of their enemies, and also, he points out that blaming one's problems on external forces is a coward's way out.

FWIW

Anima Eternae
11-15-2004, 06:09 PM
The worship of a microadaptive evolutionary process as a religion always struck me as silly. I consider myself anti-religious, but why not worship opposable thumbs while we're at it?


Religion, in my opinion, is for the infantile and weak of mind. Someone who is stupid enough to make a religion out of the race (the supernatural out of the natural) is just as bothersome as an egalitarian christian.

Some people believe in Jesus. I believe in air conditioning.

Okay, I stole that from Linder.


...

Intrepid
11-15-2004, 07:38 PM
[QUOTE=Keystone]LOL. Communist hippies to boot. No thanks.[/QUOTE]

*lol* Look at the link in Wakzak's sig:

Shoot-down of KAL-007 was a relief

That there are billions of people over 60kg weight on this planet is recklessness.
Considering the current population, it is insanity to whine for little over 200 dead in that Korean aircraft that was shot down. It was a relief, far too small though. I wish that death to mankind comes soon. So quickly that mankind will not have time to destroy natures potential for future evolution.
Suicide is a deed of an active person.

Say what? Methinks this little commie fruit needs a good bitch slappin' to re-enter reality again.

Abzug Hoffman
11-15-2004, 07:54 PM
You and Goldenberg have fun!

ROYAL OAK: Man pleads not guilty in weekend church fire

April 2, 2002

A Huntington Woods man pleaded not guilty Monday to setting a fire and spray-painting the walls of a rest room at a Royal Oak Catholic church on Saturday.

Police say Jared Bryan Goldenberg, 25, used gasoline to ignite the fire in a waste container in the basement of the National Shrine of the Little Flower. Goldenberg also painted the Star of David on some rest room walls, police said.

Goldenberg's attorney, Robert Gold, could not be reached for comment Monday.

Goldenberg was arraigned Monday on felony charges of arson and ethnic intimidation in 44th District Court in Royal Oak. Upon conviction, the charges carry up to 10 years and two years in prison, respectively.

Goldenberg, who is being held in the Oakland County Jail in lieu of $200,000 bond, is scheduled to appear for a preliminary hearing April 12 before Judge Daniel Sawicki

Police say Goldenberg was intercepted by parishioners who were preparing an Easter service on Saturday morning. By Laura Potts

sean(doc)martin
11-15-2004, 08:11 PM
[QUOTE=Keystone]

The white Christian then thinks back on all the fond memories of Christmas, Easter, weddings and funerals that revolved around Christianity, and promptly tells Herr Linder and Co. to stuff it.

[/QUOTE]
[SIZE=3]So now how many Anti-Christian VNNF'ers celebrate Christmas and Easter and actually attend Weddings or Funerals? [/SIZE]

Intrepid
11-15-2004, 08:16 PM
[QUOTE=Keystone]Yes. He needs slapped into action. Look alive Prozak! My vegetable garden needs the space you're occupying. Carry on accordingly![/QUOTE]

Btw, did anyone agree to the pogroms the other night? You know, your query on "physical extermination" and all...

Intrepid
11-15-2004, 08:19 PM
[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin][SIZE=3]So now how many Anti-Christian VNNF'ers celebrate Christmas and Easter and actually attend Weddings or Funerals? [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Colonel Katz said the priest enraged him at the funeral, recently. Then again, the Colonel likes to makes things up, too. *lol*

Intrepid
11-15-2004, 09:31 PM
[QUOTE=Keystone]No one actually fessed up. I was taking demands for mass murder out of context, it appears.

However, watch your ass, traitor![/QUOTE]

Yep, you had that "waitin' for the PO in the purchasing manager's office" feel to your posts, Key.

This traitor is ready for the Colonel's rope-toting retards, thank you very much.

Bragi
11-15-2004, 09:37 PM
[QUOTE=Keystone]And you would substitute white Christianity with what? People need spirituality or else that need wouldn't have persisted for thousands of years...

Western people have taken to Christianity. It seems to suit us and has helped separate us from more savage folk, until now.

Your alternative?[/QUOTE]

It's my view that the morons were not in need of spirituality per se. What they were in need of was explanations.

In ancient times, say, before the Rennaisance (14th to 16th centuries), the world was a very mysterious place. The humans alive in those time periods were unable to grasp even the most basic aspects of the solar system, the Earth, and the mechanics of sky.

"Religion" put the (flat) earth at the center of the universe, with the sun going around it. Religion tried in vain to explain the origin of life. In the case of christianity, Adam and Eve were God's companions in an idyllic Garden of Eden. God created the universe in 6 days by saying things like "let there be light" and willing them into existence. Death, a universal fate and a common fear of humans, was dealt with in the same way. The crafters of cognitive comfort, these religion-makers, created the idea of an afterlife, or resurrection. The Hindu and Buddhists have their own versions of afterlife explanation.

What you call spirituality is what I would refer to as mere superstition. A way to explain the mysteries that abound in the natural world. What must early man have thought of a terrible thunderstorm? Surely some force, some super-man, some "god" was behind the frightening display. The lightning cracks from the sky, the thunder booms with an echo. The rains comes pouring down. Early man must also have wondered at the insects. The paragon of animals, and birds, and things in the ocean. What must the people of 2,000 years ago thought of the heavens, and of the sun? Religion was the original medium between the known (the immediate environment) and the unknown (which was just about everything). Then along comes these wise men full of the knowing, and they would tell the peasantry that they talked to gods and what not.'

Thankfully, in this era, we have science. The natural world and much much more has an explanation. The exact workings of the solar system, and of nearly every aspect of our little planet is known and has been measured, ascertained, and quantified. The sun is not a god, it's merely an enormous ball of burning gas. Finally, white people can understand the world around them without the need for a bunch of kooky made up fictions passed down from holy men. The sun is a star.

So, you replace Christianity with nothing. What does the church do when membership numbers start to plunge as we see today? Well, they just invite in immigrants and other unwitting simpletons to help keep the old coffers brimming with god, err, gold. Religion is, to put it bluntly, unnecessary. As in defunct. As in phased out by reality, intelligence, and reason. As in dead. A hold out from a bygone era. A dying institution, like marriage.

Western people, btw, didn't just "take" to Christianity. It was brutally installed into culture by the sword. And yes, it probably made civilized people out of many a savage. Because savages don't get dressed up and put money in the collection plate. Religion also served as the original federal government. When the people of Europe knew no laws or order or civilization, along came religion to bring a structure and common bond to millions upon millions of scattered people. I could go on and on but you get the idea.

prozak
11-15-2004, 10:40 PM
[QUOTE=Keystone]Second, everything everyday white folk hold dear is held up to ridicule and scorn here at VNN.[/QUOTE]

As is obvious to everyone but the lockstep brain-deactivated followers, what everyday white folk believe is failing. If you seriously believe the Jews, without help from corruption within the white race, were able to punch it out and sit on its head, you're clearly in ignorance of history.

White people have a values problem.

When this is fixed, all the symptoms including race-mixing go away.

And I do agree with Pentti Linkola: no one is my friend solely because he is "white." Whites have a dire need for eugenics, as most of them are morons; in addition, the planet as a whole needs a cleansing of fools.

Maybe we'll get lucky and another ice age will roll around.

Intrepid
11-15-2004, 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by prozak
And I do agree with Pentti Linkola: no one is my friend solely because he is "white." Whites have a dire need for eugenics, as most of them are morons; in addition, the planet as a whole needs a cleansing of fools.

Maybe we'll get lucky and another ice age will roll around.

Well, at the very least, perhaps you'll be hit by a fast-moving automobile, though, you nihilistic, doomsday-worshiping twit.

Hitler Goddess
11-15-2004, 11:01 PM
[QUOTE=Intrepid]Well, at the very least, perhaps you'll be hit by a fast-moving automobile, though, you nihilistic, doomsday-worshiping twit.[/QUOTE]


At the very least, indeed. That is much too quick of a death for someone like him. :D

Steve B
11-15-2004, 11:03 PM
[QUOTE=Keystone]

Christianity was a civilizing force for European peoples. It taught them right and wrong. Barbarity from Civilized thought. And get this...........................................It came from the Jews. Yep. It did.

Surprise!!![/QUOTE]

Yes! Thank God for Charlemagne, the Knights of the order, Crusades 1 -5 and the Spanish Inquisition!

prozak
11-15-2004, 11:06 PM
[QUOTE=Intrepid]Well, at the very least, perhaps you'll be hit by a fast-moving automobile, though, you nihilistic, doomsday-worshiping twit.[/QUOTE]

Arguing without resorting to ad hom will advance the cause of our race further than the alternative. FYI

Intrepid
11-15-2004, 11:21 PM
[QUOTE=prozak]Arguing without resorting to ad hom will advance the cause of our race further than the alternative. FYI[/QUOTE]

Yes, of course. Perhaps we should emulate your "kill all the Christians" rational stance, eh? That's going to advance the cause, I'm certain of it.

Did you agree with Mr. Linkola's statement, which you wish to propagandize, that I'd previously mentioned?

That there are billions of people over 60kg weight on this planet is recklessness.
Considering the current population, it is insanity to whine for little over 200 dead in that Korean aircraft that was shot down. It was a relief, far too small though. I wish that death to mankind comes soon. So quickly that mankind will not have time to destroy natures potential for future evolution.
Suicide is a deed of an active person.

Intrepid
11-15-2004, 11:25 PM
[QUOTE=hitler goddess]At the very least, indeed. That is much too quick of a death for someone like him. :D[/QUOTE]

Perhaps something more along these lines, H.G.?

http://www.guelman.ru/culture/images/doc/7337-inquisition.jpg

Hitler Goddess
11-15-2004, 11:35 PM
[QUOTE=Intrepid]Perhaps something more along these lines, H.G.?

http://www.guelman.ru/culture/images/doc/7337-inquisition.jpg[/QUOTE]


LOL. Now that is more like it :D

Hitler Goddess
11-16-2004, 12:16 AM
[QUOTE=Vlad]Brilliant. Now you're advocating what you all were just crying out against. Irony proof.[/QUOTE]


Oh, come on now. the difference is, I am just joking around..................kind of :p

Hitler Goddess
11-16-2004, 12:18 AM
[QUOTE=Vlad]Your learned liberalism and White Nationalism are not going to mix, folks. That's why the movement has failed since before most of have been around.[/QUOTE]



Whose learned liberalism are you referring to?

sean(doc)martin
11-16-2004, 12:39 AM
[QUOTE=Intrepid]Yes, of course. Perhaps we should emulate your "kill all the Christians" rational stance, eh? That's going to advance the cause, I'm certain of it.

[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=prozak]

But the major reason I think it's dying: people who come across as mindless thugs drive away the new blood we need, and the intellectual and social elites we need.

No one is going to side with "Kill the Jews and Muds and all will be 100% OK" morons.[/QUOTE]
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=149428&posted=1#post149428

[SIZE=3]Prozak has spoken and he has told you to stop calling for the destruction of the noble Jew and Mud.

Prozak is a Jew plant and surely there is no one on VNNF that can't see that he is. He calls for the slaughter of white Christians while criticizing anyone that speaks out against the Jew or Mud.

Prozak says don’t harm his Jewish and Mud brethren but kill every white Christian you come in contact with. [/SIZE]

Intrepid
11-16-2004, 12:39 AM
[QUOTE=hitler goddess]Whose learned liberalism are you referring to?[/QUOTE]

Yes, of course not. We will fail, unless we adopt Vlad's prescription:

I would imagine an iron-studded cudgel, and if that doesn't knock the nonsense out of 'em, live anal impalement kicking on the end of a pike while hoisted into the air.

Or, we could let animals in on the fun like roping each limb at the wrist or ankle with four horses attached, then send the horses galloping in four directions heh! LOL or the all time crowd-pleaser with lions feasting on filthy disgusting little jewsus kissing maggots with the cat's jaws pulling out mangled bloody entrails in a feline orgy of evisceration, oh glorious screams of the doomed foolish ones...

That one just gave me that warm 'n fuzzy feeling, I'll tell you. :rolleyes:

Intrepid
11-16-2004, 12:45 AM
[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=149428&posted=1#post149428

[SIZE=3]Prozak has spoken and he has told you to stop calling for the destruction of the noble Jew and Mud.

Prozak is a Jew plant and surely there is no one on VNNF that can't see that he is. He calls for the slaughter of white Christians while criticizing anyone that speaks out against the Jew or Mud.

Prozak says don’t harm his Jewish and Mud brethren but kill every white Christian you come in contact with. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Doc, I doubt he's a "Jew plant." Methinks he's just a little Metal kid, with an overgrown sense of importance, who enjoys spewing Marxist nonsense to get a rise out of folks.

Intrepid
11-16-2004, 01:36 AM
[QUOTE=Vlad]It was no less a joke than yours, Intrepid and we know it.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps. Yet it evoked so much more than my mere picture of Isabella's Spain, however. Dare I say, one envisions you relishing the words as you typed them. They were, for lack of a better word, very vivid.

Intrepid
11-16-2004, 02:04 AM
[QUOTE=Vlad]LOL I'll take that as a compliment. Touche' anyways.[/QUOTE]

Okay. I've seen you make several cogent points at times, which is very rare here, so no problem.

prozak
11-16-2004, 10:05 PM
[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]

Prozak has spoken and he has told you to stop calling for the destruction of the noble Jew and Mud.

He calls for the slaughter of white Christians while criticizing anyone that speaks out against the Jew or Mud. [/QUOTE]

White Christians are within our tribe, thus under our jurisdiction, and they are the ones allowing this travesty to occur.

Thus if they are removed, the problem will be solved, and its symptoms then addressed.

Hitler Goddess
11-16-2004, 10:32 PM
[QUOTE=prozak]Thus if they are removed, the problem will be solved, and its symptoms then addressed.[/QUOTE]



You are again using that "gutter bigotry" that you spoke out against not too long ago.



The White Nationalist community, as a whole, endorses this silliness. It's gutter bigotry and it defames us and plays into the propaganda of our enemies.

sean(doc)martin
11-17-2004, 01:31 AM
[QUOTE=prozak]White Christians are within our tribe, thus under our jurisdiction, and they are the ones allowing this travesty to occur.

Thus if they are removed, the problem will be solved, and its symptoms then addressed.[/QUOTE]
[SIZE=3]Prozak has spoken, remove the whites and America would be fantastic. Just don’t say one word against a Jew or Mud or you will be called a Moron.

Where are his two minions Vlad and Draco to defend him on his new crusade to destroy whites while not allowing criticism of Jews and Muds?

How much more proof do I have to present that this clown is not white before the most dull of VNNF’ers come to their senses and cease to defend this sicko.[/SIZE]

sean(doc)martin
11-17-2004, 02:04 AM
[QUOTE=Vlad]They are enabling jew liberalism and the dismantling of healthy racialism. It is a cancer among us and within us, our families and our communities.
We all know this is true.
[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=3]Yeah I know he is a sound white man.

Dude if you saw him reading the Talmud while blowing his nose on a Nazi armband you would offer some excuse.

Probably something like “oh he was doing research against the Jews came to an important part and had to sneeze so not wanting to ruin the pages before his valuable research was finished he reached for his trusty Nazi hanky “.

So tell us why he called Beethoven black? Is he color blind to?

How many excuses are you people going to make for this obvious white hating filth before he gets banned and makes you all look like fools?

What is wrong with you people?[/SIZE]