View Full Version : if we are wrong, then
Magog
January 2nd, 2004, 01:51 AM
how come holywood never makes a pro Nazi movie? Everything the jews allow you to see must be approved by them, and they will not allow you to see the truth.
How can you know your right when your not allowed to see the other side? who is making all the choices for you then?
Do you really think your free living like this?
CincinnatiWhite
January 2nd, 2004, 02:38 AM
Even better. Holocough ....6 million alleged dead right?
Stalin...30 million easy. And most White Christians.
Now....how many Holocough movies are there? Schinder's List, the Piano, Life is Beautiful, and dozens more, many with awards. And America is only 3% Jew.
Now...now many Christian Slaughtered movies are there? Hm...5 times as many dead (assuming we believe in the 6 million figure) and at least 75% Christian (x25 Jew) so something a mathematically inclined person might reason that this Christian Holocost is 125 times as impactful to America as the Jewish one. How many movies did Christians get? One? Any?
Who controls Hollywood? Oh, that explains it.
Wish Mel Gibson luck with his movie. Biggest story in the world, one of the biggest actors in the world. Couldn't get financing (paid for it himself). Can't get distributing.
Who controls Hollywood? Oh, that explains that too doesn't it.
Cincinnati White
Glex
January 2nd, 2004, 03:02 PM
how come holywood never makes a pro Nazi movie?
Who'd want to see it? besides a few hundred people who post here, I mean.
NW WILD CARD
January 2nd, 2004, 03:08 PM
Who'd want to see it? besides a few hundred people who post here, I mean.
SEE "ROMPER STOMPER" ITS A 10 YEAR OLD AUSTRAILIAN MOVIE ABOUT GANG WARS BETWEEN SKINHEADS AND VIETNAMESE IMIGRANTS .IF YOU WANT TO SEE 20 SKINHEADS DO BATTLE WITH 1000 GOOKS THEN CHECK IT OUT .
NW WILD CARD
January 2nd, 2004, 03:10 PM
Who'd want to see it? besides a few hundred people who post here, I mean.
LOOK INTO WWW.lionsgatefilms.com for romper stomper
Glex
January 2nd, 2004, 03:13 PM
LOOK INTO WWW.lionsgatefilms.com for romper stomper
So I guess it is possible to see those kinds of movies after all. What are you complaining about then, Magog?
Glex
January 2nd, 2004, 03:23 PM
Even better. Holocough ....6 million alleged dead right?
Stalin...30 million easy. And most White Christians.
Were those 30 million specifically identified as Christian, and was that the only reason they were killed?
The Jews were killed by the nazis simply for being Jewish. But of Stalin's 30 million, how many were not Christian, but political dissidents, enemies of the state, etc?
The Holocaust is a singular event because there has never been a purposeful slaughter of an entire group of people. Stalin’s murders were just killings of all sorts of people. The Holocaust was an attempt at genocide! Surely you can see the difference.
Gott
January 2nd, 2004, 04:52 PM
Were those 30 million specifically identified as Christian, and was that the only reason they were killed?
The Jews were killed by the nazis simply for being Jewish. But of Stalin's 30 million, how many were not Christian, but political dissidents, enemies of the state, etc?
The Holocaust is a singular event because there has never been a purposeful slaughter of an entire group of people. Stalin’s murders were just killings of all sorts of people. The Holocaust was an attempt at genocide! Surely you can see the difference.
Glex - please do your homework and correct what I'm about to say if it is wrong. But first off, no one knows how many Stalin killed as the estimates vary from around 10 to over 60 million. There is lots and lots of physical evidence, however, that millions and millions were killed. And, most of those killed, were indeed targeted as both white and christian as most of those killed where from the provinces of the Russian empire that were overwhelmingly...you guessed it - white and christian - Russia west of the Urals, the Ukraine, White Russia and the Baltic states where the populations were entirely white and almost entirely christian. Most of those who ran Stalin's terror apparatus were jewish - virtually all the high functionaries and actual leaders of the killing squads (again, please do the homework and report back with any facts that refute this).
And, finally, as one specific example, so that this discussion stays real grounded in fact rather than soap box oratory - the artificial famine in the Ukraine in the mid 1930s has been totally, irrefutably documented as intentional murder - in under one year - between 6 to 8 million White Christian Ukrainian peasants and small landowners were exterminated by Stalin's jew terror squads.
There are lists around with the names of all the high functionaries of the Bolshevik party with their racial origins and though jews were under 2% of the overall Russian population, they form an incredibly large majority in the Bolshevik party. And, before you start with that is or isn't so, please remember to come armed with facts. Because I can do so to defend my side. One rather embarrassing fact along these lines is an article that Winston Churchill wrote for a London Newspaper in 1921 or so - where he says EXACTLY what I just did.
So, I suggest you take the 'special' argument about the NSDAP and the poor jews and flush it down the toilet where it belongs, as it is as much bullshit as all the other jew lies.
88
cabinger
January 2nd, 2004, 05:07 PM
SEE "ROMPER STOMPER" ITS A 10 YEAR OLD AUSTRAILIAN MOVIE ABOUT GANG WARS BETWEEN SKINHEADS AND VIETNAMESE IMIGRANTS .IF YOU WANT TO SEE 20 SKINHEADS DO BATTLE WITH 1000 GOOKS THEN CHECK IT OUT .
First of all, kill the caps. Secondly, Romper Stomper was an indictment to skinheadism. Romper Stomper portrays these skinheads as losers. Hell, they even were chased out of their home by gooks. The gooks WON. I don't see how you can say it's pro skinhead, not to mention the ending...
Glex
January 2nd, 2004, 05:17 PM
And, finally, as one specific example, so that this discussion stays real grounded in fact rather than soap box oratory - the artificial famine in the Ukraine in the mid 1930s has been totally, irrefutably documented as intentional murder - in under one year - between 6 to 8 million White Christian Ukrainian peasants and small landowners were exterminated by Stalin's jew terror squads.
I have no doubt they were killed. I do doubt they were specifically targeted like the Jews were by the nazis.
Did Stalin’s terror squads exist for the express purpose of wiping out those white Christian peasants in their entirety? Because that is what the nazis were to the Jews. The nazis existed solely for that reason. Stalin just killed a lot of people.
It’s the difference between a mass murder, that just kills randomly; and a serial killer that targets specific people. Yes, they are both killing, but the serial killer is worse, because there is actual thought and premeditation behind it.
Steve B
January 2nd, 2004, 05:21 PM
The Holocaust is a singular event because there has never been a purposeful slaughter of an entire group of people. Stalin’s murders were just killings of all sorts of people. The Holocaust was an attempt at genocide! Surely you can see the difference.
I get it now. When jews get wacked it's a "singular event because there has never been a purposeful slaughter of an entire group of people". In fact it's "genocide".
But when White Christians get snuffed it's just a random "killing of all sorts of people" and no museums or memorials are built, no movies or television series are made, no donations are raised, no blame or guilt is placed, very few school history books mention it, college professors don't talk about it or if they do the perps aren't mentioned.
"Surely" I can see the difference!
ITZ COMING
T.Garrett
January 2nd, 2004, 05:28 PM
Greetz
Holy shit, who the fuck cares if Nazi Germany killed joos? The question today should be, how do we effectively finish the job started by NS Germany. Thing of it is, in the case of the Third Reich, Euros watched jooish led bolsheviks murder millions of other Euros in the Ukraine and Russia in the 1920's and 30's, German NS anti-jooism was a justifiable defensive reaction against a despised minority who never really fit in Germany or for that matter anywhere in Europe. The German government gave joos an ultimatum: leave Germany, and then later Europe as well, or be segregated, imprisoned and possibly die. Why do joos persist in living in Euro societies where they live constantly with this animus hanging over them, this weird people will never fit in with us, maybe itz true that they need Euros to live parasitically off of? If joos were all they claim to be, why can’t they devise their own great nation on their own and exist without Euros in Europe and America being sugar daddy to them, and why can’t they even rule a desert country the size of New Jersey without these tremendous problems even with the billions in American tax dollars and ‘reparations’ from Europeans who have been beat over the head for sixty years with the ‘guilt’ of the supposed dead joos of the holohoax? Fuck the joos, they are just a second rate people whose importance is inflated tremendously by their yellow dog press and media. How much simpler than that could it possibly be? Joos don’t belong in European countries, have never really been welcome anywhere, have always been a negative destabilizing element in those societies, and should get the fuck out of Europe and America soon or one day we will expel them again, and maybe this time permanently, for eternity. It has happened repeatedly historically, and will happen again tomorrow as sure as the sun rises. WTF is so deep about this simple problem that people don’t understand? This German pogrom called ‘holocaust’ is just one of many in the past, and many more to come … Fuck the joos, Cheers
T.Garrett
Glex
January 2nd, 2004, 05:34 PM
Why do joos persist in living in Euro societies where they live constantly with this animus hanging over them
The same reason you stay even though you say you are being overrun by non-whites. It’s your home.
Fuck the joos, they are just a second rate people whose importance is inflated tremendously by their yellow dog press and media.
So the Jews are, at the same time, “second rate”, yet “first rate” enough to control all world media?
This German pogrom called ‘holocaust’ is just one of many in the past, and many more to come
And that is why we must never forget. That is why the Jewish people are a special case. Can you imagine having the attitude like this for any other group of people?
Screwface
January 2nd, 2004, 05:47 PM
The same reason you stay even though you say you are being overrun by non-whites. It’s your home.
So the Jews are, at the same time, “second rate”, yet “first rate” enough to control all world media?
And that is why we must never forget. That is why the Jewish people are a special case. Can you imagine having the attitude like this for any other group of people?
This is insane, ofcourse the jews are a second rate people, they are both ugly and physically incapable compared to whites. The reason they own the press and media is because they have made a conserted effrot to do so and have had the where with all to do so through the money they swindelled from European communities for centuries through usery. Can you name one talented jewish artist or musician, please do so I can tear them to bits, jews are little people filled with hate who wish to destroy those whom they envy the most: the beutiful aryan people, not all whites are beautiful but the best of the best are white and the worst of the worst are jew.
Gott
January 2nd, 2004, 05:57 PM
Are you rationally challenged, or just another jew dick head passing though? If the former, there is maybe hope for you, if the latter, I suggest u do some reading on threads around here as we regulars know all the kike tricks and 'clever jews' stopping by to discomfort the Nazis just make themselves look ridiculous and give us a few cheap laughs.
Now, do you mind telling me what this gibberish is supposed to mean? Did Stalin’s terror squads exist for the express purpose of wiping out those white Christian peasants in their entirety? Because that is what the Nazis were to the Jews. The Nazis existed solely for that reason. Stalin just killed a lot of people.
Because, no matter how hard I try is comes out as incomprehensible to me. That is what the Nazis were to the jews, eh? Well, what do you think those jew killing squads appeared to be to the Ukraine peasants and small holders? And Stalin just killed a lot of people eh? The state of education is parlous indeed, it seems.
And this: I do doubt they were specifically targeted like the Jews were by the nazis.
Like what other purpose do armed squads of men whose job it is to seal off an entire country, drive out the livestock and not allow any food to go in...now, what other purpose do such squads have, eh? Do they, like teach ball room dancing on the side? Are they adept at bird call imitations when they are not putting in their 10 hours? Like what are you talking about???
And park the common assumptions about what the Nazis did or didn't do, pal. And the very convenient - for you - distinctions about which kind of mass murder is okidoki and which kind is just history channel heart rendingly touching and such. That shit don't wash at all around here. And even if it did - it has nothing to do with the fact that the Bolshevik party was overwhelmingly jewish and that jews ran the terror apparatus and murdered tens of millions of white christians in Russia and the Russian provinces. This isn't the fucking history channel and you don't control the discussion. So drop permanently the shit about what Nazis did or didn't do. You prove - back up - everything you say around here or you will be ignored as a bore who isn't worth the trouble to knock down.
T.Garrett
January 2nd, 2004, 05:58 PM
Dear Glex
No, the joo is no special case. He just seems to be so stupid to subject himself to constant stompings from people who don’t want anything to do with this spawn of satan. And Europe is not the fucking joos home. You know, I see jooish behavior of this type here in NYC all the time, this masochistic self destruction. I wish they would go hang on their fucking cross elsewhere, not in my country and suck us good people into their hateful black vortex in the ME. Joos are repulsive and even though many of my European cousins tolerate them now, they wont do so in the future as history shows again and again. History shows jooish stupidity by his being where not wanted. By the way, are you jooish?
T.Garrett
T.Garrett
January 2nd, 2004, 06:17 PM
Dear Glex
As for special, who is more special than the White man? When the joo was living in his filthy tents in the desert, fucking his sheep and goats and praying to some funky desert demon, Whites built classical Greece and prayed to gods that looked like themselves. Joos are shite, pal. They are the detritus of stone age nomad culture, translated into today’s world. Look at their sick, voodoo like religion and all the myopic superstition and utter ignorance contained in their ‘holy’ books. This obscenity speaks of the ‘soul’ of this nasty people, as the Hellenic spirit speaks of ours. We are two different peoples. Were better rid of this parasite, and after we rid ourselves of him we will purge all the accumulated dreck of his ‘intellect’ from our stores of knowledge, purge him as if he never existed. We need him not, and are better off without him. Cheers
T.Garrett
Glex
January 2nd, 2004, 06:45 PM
Are you rationally challenged, or just another jew dick head passing though?
Maybe I am rationally challenged, after all. Because I continue to see a difference between an army that kills people in order to take land, and an army that specifically targets people to wipe them out. The former is war, the latter is genocide.
And even if it did - it has nothing to do with the fact that the Bolshevik party was overwhelmingly jewish and that jews ran the terror apparatus
The fact that there were a lot of Jews in that organization does not mean it was a Jewish organization. Most of them were men, too I’ll bet. Does that mean that the male of the species is to blame?
and you don't control the discussion.
Didn’t say I wanted to control it.
You prove - back up - everything you say around here or you will be ignored as a bore who isn't worth the trouble to knock down.
So far, you haven’t knocked down anything. Maybe you are saving your intellectual big guns for later, I don’t know. But anyway, what’s to back up? Hitler’s sole purpose was to kill all Jews. Was Stalin’s sole purpose to kill all small farmers? Can you see the difference intent makes?
Glex
January 2nd, 2004, 06:55 PM
This is insane, ofcourse the jews are a second rate people, they are both ugly and physically incapable compared to whites.
Your opinion. I’m sure theirs is different. A third person’s opinion would be different still. Why is yours any better than theirs?
The reason they own the press and media is because they have made a conserted effrot to do so and have had the where with all to do so through the money they swindelled from European communities for centuries through usery.
So a second rate people like the Jews can band together to own all the media, but a first rate people like whites are powerless to stop it? Who is it that is first rate again?
Can you name one talented jewish artist or musician, please do so I can tear them to bits
Art is pretty subjective, isn’t it? Name an artist you like, and I’m sure I could find someone to “tear them to bits”.
jews are little people filled with hate who wish to destroy those whom they envy the most
I think envy may run both ways here. Clearly you are envious or the Jewish people’s skill at organizing themselves. The only difference is, they don’t want to kill you for it.
Glex
January 2nd, 2004, 07:00 PM
Dear Glex
No, the joo is no special case. He just seems to be so stupid to subject himself to constant stompings from people who don’t want anything to do with this spawn of satan. And Europe is not the fucking joos home. You know, I see jooish behavior of this type here in NYC all the time, this masochistic self destruction. I wish they would go hang on their fucking cross elsewhere, not in my country and suck us good people into their hateful black vortex in the ME. Joos are repulsive and even though many of my European cousins tolerate them now, they wont do so in the future as history shows again and again. History shows jooish stupidity by his being where not wanted. By the way, are you jooish?
T.Garrett
Of course I’m not Jewish. I’m not a white supremacist either. Just a person who thinks people should be free to do what they want. Want to marry a black woman? Do it. Doesn’t affect me at all.
As far as Europe not being a home for Jewish people, it’s as much a home to them as America is to you. The pilgrims landed here, and the Indians were here first after all.
Gott
January 2nd, 2004, 07:37 PM
Well you are wrong on every count. And wrong in a really sick and twisted way, too. For one thing you might know something about what you write about before you do write about it. This isn't grade school, and if it were you'd fail. I see a difference between an army that kills people to take land and an army that specifically targets people to wipe them out. The former is war, the latter is genocide.
No, it wasn't an army - it was secret police killing squads and other squads to take the livestock and others still to see to it that no food got through to the inhabitants.
No, it was not a war - it was to exterminate a class of people. You know, like genocide? White, Christian farmers and small landholders.
No it was not a war to take land, as the the land in question was already a part of the Bolshevik state. There was no conquest involved. You don't even know the history of the country you are discussing enough to get even the most basic facts right? Then why are you discussing it? You don't have the facts and therefore can't possibly understand the dynamics of what happened. You are just LYING in typical, sickening KIKE mode, and you are not fooling anyone....in this or any of your previous incarnations, you grotesque freak.
and NO - the likes of you don't decide what is fucking war and what is genocide. As the land was part of the Bolshevik state there goes your filthy 'it was just war and therefore different argument', now don't it?
The inhabitants of the Ukraine were targeted to wipe them out - your definition of genocide. The people doing the wiping out where JEWS - and they did it from racial hatred, not cuz they were men but because they were Bolsheviks, which means communists, which means JEWS. The White christians wanted to keep their ancient traditions and the jew Bolsheviks wanted them dead, and killed more of them IN ONE SUMMER than the NSDAP supposedly, but didn't, kill filthy, disgusting jews in all the time they were in power.
Don't address any more posts to me unless you know the facts first. At least the simplest ones, that any idiot grade school kid should know.
And your knowledge of 'Hitler's sole purpose' is as out of your asshole as is your command of Russian history. So, don't talk about what you don't know about.
You are just as boring in this freak incarnation as you were in the previous ones.
Magog
January 2nd, 2004, 08:20 PM
remake Romper stomper and have the gooks die, and get ran out of their homes. Romper Stomper was anti white, it was not pro Nazi at all. American history X was another anti White movie. Jews suck ass at making movies about Aryan history or hardships.
Magog
January 2nd, 2004, 08:21 PM
remake Romper stomper and have the gooks die, and get ran out of their homes. Romper Stomper was anti white, it was not pro Nazi at all. American history X was another anti White movie. Jews suck ass at making movies about Aryan history or hardships.
We have to make pro Nazi movies because this is how the anti lazy ass lemmings learn their histroy, that is why they are anti Aryan. Because the Jooo told them so.
T.Garrett
January 2nd, 2004, 08:30 PM
Of course I’m not Jewish. I’m not a white supremacist either. Just a person who thinks people should be free to do what they want. Want to marry a black woman? Do it. Doesn’t affect me at all.
As far as Europe not being a home for Jewish people, it’s as much a home to them as America is to you. The pilgrims landed here, and the Indians were here first after all.
Dear Glex
He he he if you want to stick your dick in a black monkey, go right ahead. If you are White, we would be better off without your genes surviving mixing with the negro. As for North America, it was sparsely populated by stone age savage tribes which were constantly at war with each other, living like animalz. You compare those ‘indians’ to my civilized White ancestors? Ha! Kind of like saying we shouldn’t have colonized the continent because we would disturb herds of migrating buffalo, as if my ancestors and the buffalo or the savage Indian were somehow ‘the same’ in your intellectually paralyzing morality. My ancestors had the divine right to settle and develop this continent, it still would have been a wilderness today if the White man never came here, and those ‘noble’ red cannibalz would still be eating each other. But to you that red savages culture and the culture of the European are ‘the same’. HA! What a load of shite. But that is the kind of relativism that joos and their lackeys, the left use to argue the unarguable. Relativism seems to be the front line argument of the jooish left, bad is good, white is black, immorality is virtue, “weeze all the same, why cant we just get along” LOL The ‘progressive’ who is against any progress because it might 'offend' someone LOL. I laugh at you and your kind boy, you seem familiar, what was your nym here last before Tom banned you? Cheers
T.Garrett
Georgie
January 2nd, 2004, 08:45 PM
People should be free to do what they want? Does your opinion of freedom end anywhere by chance? Do you for example think that people like us should have the right to think the way we do? Another thing,do you think people should have the right to rape, murder, steal from anyone they want? After all, shouldn't they have the freedom to do that? As they say, don't knock it 'till you've tried it.
Interesting play of words there Glex about the "holocaust" and the millions upon millions of White Christian's killed by communists. In the "holocaust" millions less were killed yet its still considered to be *the* atrocity. I guess its okay to kill people as long as its just murder and not genocide, you know? So it's only considered genocide when the murderer TELLS YOU that he's killing people based on their race? Wow, 60 years ago theres no way White people would have thought this way but I guess we've been "enlightened" since then.
The Answer
January 4th, 2004, 06:03 PM
...Communism was a movement perpetrated by both Jews and non-Jews. Stupid WNs here seem to ignore the fact that the Soviet Union annihilated many Jews as well as non-Jews. You see, that's the nature of totalitarian communism.
Genocide is the systematic destruction of any "national, racial, political, or cultural group" according to the Random-House Webster's dictionary. So, since Communism led to the systematic extermination of non-communists, Communism in the Soviet Union led to genocide...a political genocide. Did white Christians comprise many anti-communist groups? Yes. Were Jewish peasants also annihilated by the Communist regime? Yes. Can you billy bob's get that through your thick fucking skulls?
To conclude...Glex, you're kinda right but need to know what genocide means, everyone else, you're just as stupid as usual.
The Answer
January 4th, 2004, 07:44 PM
You mean like allied bombers mass murdering over German cities? You mean you don't believe anyone's life is important unless they are a jew? Kike.
What the hell are you talking about, Vlad? Allied bombers killed hundres of thousands of Germans. Sure. That could be either mass murder or serial killing. Depends on how you look at it. Glex made no point that neglects that, nor did he make any point that says that killing of Germans was good.
Typical WN rhetorical bullshit. When you are in the midst of getting your ass kicked in an argument, you change the subject and make wild claims. Does your point have any relevance at all to the discussion?
Georgie
January 4th, 2004, 09:44 PM
...Communism was a movement perpetrated by both Jews and non-Jews. Stupid WNs here seem to ignore the fact that the Soviet Union annihilated many Jews as well as non-Jews. You see, that's the nature of totalitarian communism.
Genocide is the systematic destruction of any "national, racial, political, or cultural group" according to the Random-House Webster's dictionary. So, since Communism led to the systematic extermination of non-communists, Communism in the Soviet Union led to genocide...a political genocide. Did white Christians comprise many anti-communist groups? Yes. Were Jewish peasants also annihilated by the Communist regime? Yes. Can you billy bob's get that through your thick fucking skulls?
To conclude...Glex, you're kinda right but need to know what genocide means, everyone else, you're just as stupid as usual.
Thanks for pointing out shit we already knew retard. :cool: Wow you're so smart and cool dood.
Glex
January 4th, 2004, 11:43 PM
My ancestors had the divine right to settle and develop this continent,
Then doesn't the Jew have the "divine right" to be your rulers? If not, please explain how your divine right is different than theirs.
Glex
January 4th, 2004, 11:53 PM
Does your opinion of freedom end anywhere by chance?
Yep. Do whatever you want as long as it doesn’t affect me. Go ahead. That’s called freedom.
Do you for example think that people like us should have the right to think the way we do?
Of course you do. Think whatever you want. You can participate in this Rebuplic as much as anyone. Get a majority of people to agree with you, and affect real change. What I object to is your small minority of believers wishing that genocide from the Holocaust again, and not just on the Jewish people this time.
Another thing,do you think people should have the right to rape, murder, steal from anyone they want? After all, shouldn't they have the freedom to do that?
Now that is just stupid. Of course no one has the right to hurt another person. Just like you don’t.
Interesting play of words there Glex about the "holocaust" and the millions upon millions of White Christian's killed by communists. In the "holocaust" millions less were killed yet its still considered to be *the* atrocity. I guess its okay to kill people as long as its just murder and not genocide, you know? So it's only considered genocide when the murderer TELLS YOU that he's killing people based on their race? Wow, 60 years ago theres no way White people would have thought this way but I guess we've been "enlightened" since then.
Actually they were just as enlightened in this regard. Because intent mattered back then just as much as today. Sixty years ago, they say the difference between say accidentally hitting someone with your car on a dark rainy night, and gunning them down in broad daylight on purpose. Intent.
Glex
January 5th, 2004, 06:25 PM
Our people have been negatively affected by forced integration in a nation created by us for us. Do you call that freedom? Hypocrite.
Then force back. You're still the majority, aren't you? Honestly, what is stopping you from "taking your country back"? I'd really like to know.
Italia
January 5th, 2004, 08:38 PM
Were those 30 million specifically identified as Christian, and was that the only reason they were killed?
White and a good majority were Christian. That is why they were killed.
The Jews were killed by the nazis simply for being Jewish.
When Nazi actions are placed within the context of red Jewish Communism's abominable crimes against the Christian people of Russia and Eastern Europe, the public will begin to understand that Hitler and the Nazis were a reaction, however unbalanced and excessive, to the Jewish Communist genocide against millions of Christians and peasants in the East.
This is why the crucial facts about Jewish Communism must never be documented in Hollywood films, discussed in university courses or pictured in contemporary news magazines. This is why Malcolm Muggeridge's book, an eyewitness account of the Jewish Communist holocaust against Christians, Winter in Moscow, has been tightly suppressed.
The Holocaust is a singular event because there has never been a purposeful slaughter of an entire group of people. Stalin’s murders were just killings of all sorts of people. The Holocaust was an attempt at genocide! Surely you can see the difference.
Genocide? Surely you jest! The official number of Holocaust survivors the Israeli government now gives is a million. Or 960,000, to be exact. At the same time Jewish organizations have been claiming, since the early '90s, that 10,000 die each month. So that would mean that in 1990 there were 2 million survivors left. In 1990, not more that a quarter could be alive from World War II. That means 8 million in May 1945. Well, there were fewer than 8 million Jews in all of Nazi-occupied Europe. In other words, if these numbers are correct, the Holocaust didn't happen. As my mother used to say, if everyone who claims to be a Holocaust survivor actually is one, who did Hitler kill?
Ossian
January 5th, 2004, 08:47 PM
White and a good majority were Christian. That is why the
As my mother used to say, if everyone who claims to be a Holocaust survivor actually is one, who did Hitler kill?
Wow! Your mother used to say exactly the same thing that Jewish defector Norm Finklestein's mother (herself a "death camp survivor") used to say!
Finkelstein notes that the two defining dogmas of the Holocaust were, first, the claim that it was unique, the claim that no other persecution in all of history was even close to the Holocaust in magnitude or severity, the claim that the Holocaust gives to Jews the status of the premier victims of the world. Nobody else has suffered as much as the Jews have -- and so nobody else is entitled to as much sympathy and compensation as the Jews. To suggest otherwise is tantamount to sacrilege.
The second defining dogma of the Holocaust was that it was a completely irrational act on the part of the Germans and was in no way based on anything the Jews themselves had done. The Jews, in other words were wholly blameless victims. To suggest that perhaps it was some behavior on the part of the Jews which provoked the Germans was to "blame the victim," a very Politically Incorrect 'sin'.
He also writes: "In recent years the Holocaust industry has become an outright extortion racket."
http://normanfinkelstein.com/
Georgie
January 5th, 2004, 09:31 PM
Yep. Do whatever you want as long as it doesn’t affect me. Go ahead. That’s called freedom.
Aha! I told you folks! People don't give a shit as long as it doesnt affect them and their daily life. This is why you have to make sure that people ARE affected if you want them to care about your message. By the way, do whatever I want as long as it doesn't affect you? That's not freedom, the freedom has already been limited there if it can't affect someone and I decide to do something that will affect that person.
Actually they were just as enlightened in this regard. Because intent mattered back then just as much as today. Sixty years ago, they say the difference between say accidentally hitting someone with your car on a dark rainy night, and gunning them down in broad daylight on purpose. Intent.
So are you saying that those White Christians were murdered by accident?
Glex
January 6th, 2004, 12:05 PM
The disinformation system of mass media. The lack of pro-White mass media. The multicultural kike government. The lack of a White government lately.
Those are reasons why it is difficult to get out your message. Not reasons why it is impossible.
Glex
January 6th, 2004, 12:18 PM
White and a good majority were Christian. That is why they were killed.
Ah, a good majority! Well there you have it. It’s what I’ve saying all along. Thank you, Italia.
When Nazi actions are placed within the context of red Jewish Communism's
What makes it Jewish? Because their were a lot of Jews? "A lot"? Then that means there were also "A lot" of non-jews as well, right?
This is why the crucial facts about Jewish Communism must never be documented in Hollywood films, discussed in university courses or pictured in contemporary news magazines. This is why Malcolm Muggeridge's book, an eyewitness account of the Jewish Communist holocaust against Christians, Winter in Moscow, has been tightly suppressed.
Maybe it has been suppressed in other countries. How can it be suppressed here, in America? There are so many ways to get the book out, it’s not even funny.
1. Get permission to copy the book.
2. Go to copy shop to print and bind said book.
3. Sell book, get message out.
Of course it’s not easy. Of course it’s hard work. But they is no law that stops you from doing it. If what you are afraid of is the hard work and the frowns of others, you are lost beyond all help.
Genocide? Surely you jest! The official number of Holocaust survivors the Israeli government now gives is a million. Or 960,000, to be exact. At the same time Jewish organizations have been claiming, since the early '90s, that 10,000 die each month. So that would mean that in 1990 there were 2 million survivors left. In 1990, not more that a quarter could be alive from World War II. That means 8 million in May 1945. Well, there were fewer than 8 million Jews in all of Nazi-occupied Europe. In other words, if these numbers are correct, the Holocaust didn't happen. As my mother used to say, if everyone who claims to be a Holocaust survivor actually is one, who did Hitler kill?
Then here is a way for someone here to be a millionaire! Just write a book documenting all these “Jewish lies”. Print it yourself, sell it yourself. Don’t even try to publish it through a big house that will just censor it. Just do it all yourself. Let the market decide if this is a worthy subject. If it sells millions, then I guess I was wrong, and I’ll admit it. But if Holocaust denial books, bypassing Jewish censorship still don’t sell; well, I guess we know who was wrong.
Glex
January 6th, 2004, 12:21 PM
Well, Glex, you just hurt my feelings (you had no right to), when you misspelled "Republic" the way you did. You see, I'm very proud of the original "Rebuplic" and it hurts my patriotic feelings when idiots like you demean it by misspelling it. You probably did it purposefully, (sob, cry, sob), just to hurt my feelings. Where's my (jewish) lawyer, I need to file a lawsuit against mean people like you.
Alright! Colonel Kurtz nitpicks my spelling! Since that means he couldn’t find fault with my actual argument, just a simple typo, I guess that means I won the debate!
Glex
January 6th, 2004, 12:29 PM
Aha! I told you folks! People don't give a shit as long as it doesnt affect them and their daily life. This is why you have to make sure that people ARE affected if you want them to care about your message. By the way, do whatever I want as long as it doesn't affect you? That's not freedom, the freedom has already been limited there if it can't affect someone and I decide to do something that will affect that person.
Georgie, how do you feel about radical Christain evangelicals constantly trying to “sell” you jesus? Now imagine they get ten times their numbers. Think of how bad that would be. They’d be everywhere! Now imagine those christains get together and take over an entire state. Wouldn’t that just be unbearable? Since they are in power, they’d make the rules. Prayer in school. Crosses on everyone’s neck. Fish on Fridays, whatever.
But everyone who didn’t like it would leave, so no big deal, right? Wrong! Because these people care about you! They do give a shit about you! They too realize that “do whatever I want as long as it doesn't affect you” isn’t freedom, just like you said. So they are going to help you, whether you want it or not. Don’t you look forward to living in such a caring society?
Glex
January 6th, 2004, 03:36 PM
Logically if it was impossible to get the message out, this forum would have no members.
Thanks for proving my point, Vlad.
Hmmm. So it is possible to get the message out about white nationalism. Despite all the “Jewish censorship”, it is still possible. So why exactly is your message not more widespread? Maybe, perhaps, because people don’t want to hear it?
I don’t mean that people dismiss it out of hand. I mean, they hear it, know exactly what you mean, and reject it. Isn’t that the simplest, most logical reason?
Glex
January 6th, 2004, 04:50 PM
The disinformation system of mass media. The lack of pro-White mass media. The multicultural kike government. The lack of a White government lately.
Is there an echo in here or are the skulls too thick?
Well Vlad, since you like to repeat yourself, I will too. Those reasons are why it is difficult to get your message across, that is all.
The Jews at one point had a difficult time getting their message across too, yet somehow were able to. Are you saying you can't do as well as the Jews did?
Glex
January 6th, 2004, 06:14 PM
By our nature, we do not operate by jewish methods.
Interesting. Are methods Jewish/White or are they simply effective/non-effective?
You offer an overly simplified counterpoint, implying that because of this brief snapshot in time where jews have come to power in the West these past seventy years, they are therefore superior beings.
I don’t believe they are superior. You do. According to white nationalists, the Jews are smart enough to:
Take over nearly all media
Run all banks and financial institutions
Turn white women into race mixing sluts
Cause a host population to do a complete 180 on racial issues, in as little as 30 years
Effectively run the government of the most powerful nations on earth.
Now, you tell me. A group that can do that. What would you call them?
Those who are capable of thinking in more broad terms understand that all things pass in time, yet ironically history tends to repeat itself over and over.
I’ve seen that a lot here, yes. But I see something you don’t. Every time “the evil Jew” is kicked out (according to that list I see around here), they simply go somewhere else! So I guess your position is that history repeats itself, over and over. Except it won’t this time, because the big strong Aryan man is going to take care of it! Just like he didn’t care of it those dozens of other times.
Magog
January 6th, 2004, 07:27 PM
Then doesn't the Jew have the "divine right" to be your rulers? If not, please explain how your divine right is different than theirs.
We dont want to rule anyone. That is the point, jews want to work us as slaves, and all we want is to be free. We want our own homeland live in peace away from you freaks. You live over there, we live over there, and everyone is happy. But, no this is too simple huh. Why who would be the jews slave then? Get the point bubble head?
Magog
January 6th, 2004, 07:29 PM
The disinformation system of mass media. The lack of pro-White mass media. The multicultural kike government. The lack of a White government lately.
that is all there stopping us, and soon it will not be enough.
Steve B
January 6th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Alright! Colonel Kurtz nitpicks my spelling! Since that means he couldn’t find fault with my actual argument, just a simple typo, I guess that means I won the debate!
I'm curious, Glex. Just what is your fascination with White Nationalists? You're here all the time, posting nearly 10 posts per day.
Glex
(Member)
Glex's Forum Info
Joined 01-02-2004
Last Post Find last post
Total Posts 40 (9.48 posts per day)
Since it's obvious you're not going to change anybodys mind here and the reverse is also true then why do you stay? Do you get some sort of perverse satisfaction from having your head handed to you day after day? Does humiliation and degradation appeal to your inner self? Do you always feel the need to twist the truth and spin every little thing to suit your own pathetic narrow-minded view of the world? Do you always have to "win the debate" to feel a semblance of self-worth? Do you believe that you are "Chosen" from God-on-high and have a special relationship with Him and only you and Him know the truth? Do you feel persecuted when someone corrects your spelling? Have you ever been in therapy.
If you answered yes to any of these question...you may be a _____ .....well, you figure it out!
Glex
January 7th, 2004, 12:18 PM
Rockwell's Fable of the Ducks and Hens illustrates this historic cycle nicely. Give it a read.
I have read it. That’s my point. History repeats itself. The eeeevil Jew keeps coming back. What makes you think that this time, unlike any other time in the world, you are going to stop the cycle?
A vaccine is being developed, but your position suggests that the ancient world is exactly as the modern one. A broad vision is needed to strengthen your argument here.
No, your position does. You are the ones saying “people will wake up, like they always do”. That’s you extrapolating from history. Not me.
Glex
January 7th, 2004, 12:28 PM
I'm curious, Glex. Just what is your fascination with White Nationalists? You're here all the time, posting nearly 10 posts per day.
I'm just curious steve. What is your fascination with me? You took the time to look up my history of posting. What is your fascination?
To answer your question though, I have two responses.
One, I actually do think I can change people's minds. I see plenty of people here that wrote to me, only to never write back after my reply. I can only think these people saw my point, and couldn't continue. Just look at the flow of the posts. Furious posting as people think they have "fresh meat" in the forum, then slowly start to drop off as they realize it won't be an easy kill. Plenty of users here have posted once, been responded to, then haven't posted again. Perhaps I didn't change their mind, but maybe I planted the seed.
Second, I continue on so I can see posts like yours. I was at home, about to log on, and got to wondering when I would receive your kind of post . The meaning behind your post is simple: "I can't argue with you, so I'm going to ask you to leave". Thank you for providing that for me. Now all I need is:
A "Fuck off Jewboy" post
A "It's too obvious to debate" post
The "I'm putting you on ignore" message
A death threat post (or "I'll kick your ass) post. Extra points for all caps.
Then the inevitable ban, to complete my set.
Do you get some sort of perverse satisfaction from having your head handed to you day after day?
Please point out a specific post where someone does that to me. So far, I've yet to have that happen.
Do you always feel the need to twist the truth and spin every little thing to suit your own pathetic narrow-minded view of the world?
Again, show me where I have "twisted the truth" or spun anything. Using your own words against you isn't spin. "Pathetic narrow-minded view"? You're the people narrowly defining things. Like what white is, who can live in this country...
Do you always have to "win the debate" to feel a semblance of self-worth
Why would I be here otherwise? To lose a debate? You set up an opposition forum, then hope the opposition won't try very hard? Sorry to ruin your fish in the barrel fun.
Do you believe that you are "Chosen" from God-on-high and have a special relationship with Him and only you and Him know the truth?
Another "you must be a Jew" insinuation. Yawn. Some day you realize that not only is their intelligent opposition to white nationalism, there are intelligent opposers. Not everyone who disagrees with you is an eeeevil Jew! But admitting that would also admit that some people can't be pigeonholed that easily, which leads to thinking about other exceptions to groups (like maybe not all blacks are rapists) and certainly can't have that, can we? Can't think about things that question the white dogma!
Do you feel persecuted when someone corrects your spelling?
No, just amused. Its a clear way of letting me know they can't counter my argument. Almost as clear as getting a record of my posts and asking me why I keep coming back.
Glex
January 7th, 2004, 12:31 PM
I pick C) There is no intelligent opposition to White Nationalism.
If Glex believes that only a supernatural being can lead a people into controlling the world over so long a time, well perhaps so! "Ye are of you father the devil." The shoe fits and the kike wears it.
Vlad, please do a search of my previous posts and point out where I talked about a supernatural being. Or are strawman arguments the best you can do?
Gott
January 7th, 2004, 01:33 PM
I see plenty of people here that wrote to me, only to never write back after my reply. I can only think these people saw my point, and couldn't continue.
Again, show me where I have "twisted the truth" or spun anything.
Another "you must be a Jew" insinuation.
Italia posted this:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Genocide? Surely you jest! The official number of Holocaust survivors the Israeli government now gives is a million. Or 960,000, to be exact. At the same time Jewish organizations have been claiming, since the early '90s, that 10,000 die each month. So that would mean that in 1990 there were 2 million survivors left. In 1990, not more that a quarter could be alive from World War II. That means 8 million in May 1945. Well, there were fewer than 8 million Jews in all of Nazi-occupied Europe. In other words, if these numbers are correct, the Holocaust didn't happen. As my mother used to say, if everyone who claims to be a Holocaust survivor actually is one, who did Hitler kill?
And this is your reply:
Then here is a way for someone here to be a millionaire! Just write a book documenting all these “Jewish lies”. Print it yourself, sell it yourself. Don’t even try to publish it through a big house that will just censor it. Just do it all yourself. Let the market decide if this is a worthy subject. If it sells millions, then I guess I was wrong, and I’ll admit it. But if Holocaust denial books, bypassing Jewish censorship still don’t sell; well, I guess we know who was wrong
You didn't answer her question. The kind of reply you gave is going to plant a seed, eh? That isn't twisting anything, now is it? No, just jew avoiding it with a mincing little dance of kike sneers, titters, giggles and eye-rolling. The standard kike laugh-at-it approach, when you can't come up with any answers. You are called a jew - Oh My. Well, cockroach, like who cares if you are, or if you are instead just a 'useful idiot' who professionally sucks out jew asshole?
There is a revolving door here for the kikes and ass suckers, and in one side comes the parade and a week later out the other side they mostly go - with only the really sickos sticking around to enjoy the abuse. Because here you don't control the discussion and get chopped up into nice little pieces (for soap making, no doubt). And, if you think no one noticed your blowing off Italia's quite excellent question, you are as wrong about that as you are about everything else.
Just as in your tired arguments, so too your tired jew approach - the lies, the avoiding the questions and spinning, and changing the subject, the mincing put-downs, and best of all, the proof of what totally sick fucks you actually are. This place is as great as it is because it really shows just how limited and desperate is the jew repertory and how easy it will be for us, if you scum can't find a way to control the gigantic means of disseminating information which is the INTERNET. But, the personal touch you and those like you bring here is also amusing -all those posts, all the time, on a board where you are despised and seen right through. Read your jewboy-Freud, mr jew or faux-jew. You really like the punishment - how fucking obvious can it get? To be savaged turns you on. The perfect specimen of homo jewedicus sub humanicus. Living proof of the degeneracy and corruption jew control of society has resulted in. I pity you, but that pity don't make any fucking difference - whether jew or pawn, both are equally guilty and both are deserving of equally severe punishment when the day comes.
That 'genocide' Italia brought to your attention with facts and figures - what about them? How does genocide go with millions of 'survivors' particularly when the original number of jews in Europe - according to JEW SOURCES of population - were so small in the first place?
How come it is still 6 million even though every holohoax 'scholar' has dropped the Auschwitz figures of killed from 4 million to 1.5 million - and even the latter number straightforwardly admitted as just a guess while other officially sanctioned holohoax 'scholars' - have put the number at less than half that amount? You know like in Pressac...you know who he is of course, right, Mr. planting-a-seed?
Since then, it obviously can't be actual genocide as there are kikes just everywhere cashing those survivor checks - then it must only be 'planned' genocide - so provide the proof - the letters, the plans, the layout for the gassing apparatus'. If you like I can provide you with complete plans for Hadrian's villa at Tivoli, which was destroyed more than 1700 years ago. If you like, I can provide you with complete plans for a spectacularly lavish, but totally obscure, hunting lodge in Sicily build for a late 3th century Roman Emperor. I want to see the letters that prove intended genocide and blue prints/schematics of the 'extermination' camps that prove that verbal plan was actually put into operation. If I can give you the location of Hadrian's dining room destroyed 1700 years ago, or Nero's Golden House destroyed even earlier -and with a total attempt to erase any evidence that it ever existed, then you should have no trouble giving me blueprints of a structure built less than 100 years ago and captured virtually intact by our dear allies in the fight for 'freedom' - the Soviets.
In other words, put up or shut up. We don't buy double talk here and there are no accepted common assumptions. Prove everything you say or get lost.
Thanks for the easy laughs - usually your stuff is so boring and conventional (I have heard the same platitudes expressed in exactly the same way all my life - and with same total lack of supportive FACTS) that I don't read them after the first few words. But, the hilarious self-importance of this one was just too amusing to pass up. Yeah, you plant a seed alright. But I don't really think you are the planting seed type, if you know what I mean. And now, it's your turn to go into a fit of titters and giggles as you mince around doing a Woody Allen impersonation.
People post once to you and not again and that must mean ah...whatever merde you said it does? Not quite - it means you are a total bore and not worth more than a reply once in a while when there is nothing better to do. Like who gives a flying fuck about you or anything about you? And I'll close with the one thing you have ever written here that is on the level: YAWN.
Glex
January 7th, 2004, 04:19 PM
You didn't answer her question. The kind of reply you gave is going to plant a seed, eh? That isn't twisting anything, now is it? No, just jew avoiding it with a mincing little dance of kike sneers, titters, giggles and eye-rolling.
So when I said “show me were I lied or twisted anything”, you yourself admitted I didn’t, just that I avoided the question!
The standard kike laugh-at-it approach, when you can't come up with any answers.
Actually I didn’t say that to laugh at you, I honestly meant it. If there is as much pent up frustration over the Jews as you say, then they are a ready market. Why not use it, if it is such an opportunity as you suggest? You will be filling a perceived need, and if it really is there, you can make money to plow back into the organization. Everybody wins.
You are called a jew - Oh My.
Yes, people call me a Jew when they can’t actually counter my argument. As for “oh my”, that’s exactly what I’ve been saying. Since I’m not Jewish, the “insult” doesn’t affect me.
Well, cockroach, like who cares if you are, or if you are instead just a 'useful idiot' who professionally sucks out jew asshole?
I don’t even know any Jews, but that is beside the point. What is the point is that you white nationalists see people as either/or. I am either a Jew, or a Jew lover. The fact that I don’t give a rat’s ass about Jews is something you can’t comprehend, because “the Jewish Question” is so paramount in your mind, but not in mine.
There is a revolving door here for the kikes and ass suckers, and in one side comes the parade and a week later out the other side they mostly go Well, there seems to be a revolving door for white nationalists as well.
with only the really sickos sticking around to enjoy the abuse.
You really think you are “abusing” me? Calling me a Jew, nitpicking my spelling, etc?
Because here you don't control the discussion and get chopped up into nice little pieces (for soap making, no doubt).
Why are you so into “control”? I never said I wanted to control. The discussion or anything.
Just as in your tired arguments, so too your tired jew approach - the lies, the avoiding the questions and spinning, and changing the subject, the mincing put-downs, and best of all, the proof of what totally sick fucks you actually are.
But I guess in your case, calling me a sick fuck is not a “mincing put-down”, right?
This place is as great as it is because it really shows just how limited and desperate is the jew repertory and how easy it will be for us, if you scum can't find a way to control the gigantic means of disseminating information which is the INTERNET.
The only limiting people I see here are you. Who is it that keeps calling me a Jew? Who is it that repeats the same “Jews control the media” phrase?
But, the personal touch you and those like you bring here is also amusing -all those posts, all the time, on a board where you are despised and seen right through.
So why exactly did you open an opposition forum then?
I pity you, but that pity don't make any fucking difference - whether jew or pawn, both are equally guilty and both are deserving of equally severe punishment when the day comes.
I pity you too for the exact same reasons. Why is your pity somehow worse than mine?
That 'genocide' Italia brought to your attention with facts and figures - what about them? How does genocide go with millions of 'survivors' particularly when the original number of jews in Europe - according to JEW SOURCES of population - were so small in the first place?
So the Nazis killed a million instead of six. It still was attempted genocide. Only the scale has changed.
How come it is still 6 million even though every holohoax 'scholar' has dropped the Auschwitz figures of killed from 4 million to 1.5 million - and even the latter number straightforwardly admitted as just a guess while other officially sanctioned holohoax 'scholars' - have put the number at less than half that amount? You know like in Pressac...you know who he is of course, right, Mr. planting-a-seed?
Because it makes them money. Duh. Of course they are going to keep milking that cow as long as it gives milk. I think it’s just as wrong as you do. It’s as wrong as slavery reparations. It’s as wrong as ANY shakedown for what happened in the past. But here is the difference. When I see some Jews trying to scam, I don’t think it is all Jews guilty of scamming. Last year there was a family of white people going from town to town pulling the “asphalt repaving” scam. Does that make ALL whites guilty of scamming? Why not?
Since then, it obviously can't be actual genocide as there are kikes just everywhere cashing those survivor checks - then it must only be 'planned' genocide - so provide the proof - the letters, the plans, the layout for the gassing apparatus'.
Everywhere, huh? Every single Jewish person cashes a check for being a survivor?
In other words, put up or shut up. We don't buy double talk here and there are no accepted common assumptions. Prove everything you say or get lost.
What double talk? When? Please search my posts and show me an example of double talk I have performed.
Thanks for the easy laughs - usually your stuff is so boring and conventional (I have heard the same platitudes expressed in exactly the same way all my life - and with same total lack of supportive FACTS) that I don't read them after the first few words. But, the hilarious self-importance of this one was just too amusing to pass up. Yeah, you plant a seed alright. But I don't really think you are the planting seed type, if you know what I mean. And now, it's your turn to go into a fit of titters and giggles as you mince around doing a Woody Allen impersonation.
WOW! Another Jew insinuation, this time with a twist of homo. You really need another arrow in your quiver, buddy.
People post once to you and not again and that must mean ah...whatever merde you said it does? Not quite - it means you are a total bore and not worth more than a reply once in a while when there is nothing better to do.
Try taking something at face value. They ask a question, I answer and ask a question in return. They can’t answer, so they stop posting. Easy!
Like who gives a flying fuck about you or anything about you? And I'll close with the one thing you have ever written here that is on the level: YAWN.
And yet you keep replying to me…. But honestly, why do you even have an opposition forum?
Steve B
January 8th, 2004, 12:14 AM
I'm just curious steve. What is your fascination with me? You took the time to look up my history of posting. What is your fascination?
Well...golly gee wiz Glex, you're on my forum I'm not on yours! I was simply wondering what your motivation was. Posting 10 times a day on a WN forum is a little over the top as they say, especially someone with the views you have, wouldn't you agree?
One, I actually do think I can change people's minds.
Hmmm, perhaps you can supply us with a list of people whose "minds" you have changed?
Second, I continue on so I can see posts like yours. I was at home, about to log on, and got to wondering when I would receive your kind of post . The meaning behind your post is simple: "I can't argue with you, so I'm going to ask you to leave". Thank you for providing that for me.
Ohhh come now, Glex. I never asked you to leave. Point of fact, I I think it is in the interest of WN's to have you here as you validate everything we say...not to mention the comic relief.
Again, show me where I have "twisted the truth" or spun anything. Using your own words against you isn't spin. "Pathetic narrow-minded view"? You're the people narrowly defining things. Like what white is, who can live in this country
Well Glex, didn't you say this in response to Gott and Italia on the very serious and sensitive issue of the so-called holocaust: "So when I said “show me were I lied or twisted anything”, you yourself admitted I didn’t, just that I avoided the question!" The problemo with "avoiding" a question like this Glex, is it gives the impression that you are evading the issue because you are fearful of the answer you might give. People who duck questions and "avoid" giving straightforward answers to questions they cannot or would prefer not to answer are not lying on the technical sense but scoffing at Italia's well thought refutation of the holocaust numbers by saying "But if Holocaust denial books, bypassing Jewish censorship still don’t sell; well, I guess we know who was wrong" is certainly spin, wouldn't you agree?
Another "you must be a Jew" insinuation. Yawn. Some day you realize that not only is their intelligent opposition to white nationalism, there are intelligent opposers. Not everyone who disagrees with you is an eeeevil Jew! But admitting that would also admit that some people can't be pigeonholed that easily, which leads to thinking about other exceptions to groups (like maybe not all blacks are rapists) and certainly can't have that, can we? Can't think about things that question the white dogma!
Another non sequitur, Glex. (That means, an inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence.) Certainly not ALL "blacks are rapists" but according to FBI crime stats black males at %3 of the population commit %40 of all rapes and %90 of all interracial rape is black on white. So I, as a White Male, has a bit of a problem with that. Now I'm not trying to "pigeonhole" anyone. I'm sure the great black writer Walter Williams is a super-duper nice guy and would be a great neighbor but it's not Wally I'm concerened about. Wally is an exception to the rule. Ya see, Glex.....yer talking individuals...I'm talking black male general population and anybody with eyes to see and ears to hear knows what I'm talking about.
This next part is gonna scare you Glex but I thought I'd say it just the same. Soon...very soon, the White Man is going to throw off the jew yoke that has hampered the action and progress of The Arya....The Noble! When that day comes YOU are going to have to make a decision. If you are a White Man as you claim and not a jew then YOU have 2 choices: Join us or die! No quarter will be given to our enemys or race traitors!
ORION
Screwface
January 8th, 2004, 01:42 AM
I have read it. That’s my point. History repeats itself. The eeeevil Jew keeps coming back. What makes you think that this time, unlike any other time in the world, you are going to stop the cycle?
No, your position does. You are the ones saying “people will wake up, like they always do”. That’s you extrapolating from history. Not me.
The jews may keep reapearing, what we are working towards is getting our licks on them like so many of our ancestors had the wonderful pleasure of doing after an epoch of jewish chicanery at the highest levels. I'ts a cycle but the jews have been on th up for a while it's almost time to cut em' down. If we can destroy them for good it's a bonus.
Italia
January 8th, 2004, 12:34 PM
Yes, you've already admitted that you don't know any jews, so you have no experiences in dealing with them. Perhaps if you had had some experiences with jews, you'd have an opinion about them not unlike ours. Possible, Hmmm?
We don't need or desire to know a Jew personally. Sitting back and observing Jews is to know the Jews all too well enough. The Jew is the parasite among humans. That is this natural law. He can not do differently. He needs a host people to be able to live himself. This way of living is innate to the Jews, and laid down in their laws: Citation from the Talmud: "Robbing Gentiles is permitted."
If you want to see hate, look to the Talmud.
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 12:39 PM
Everyone needs to take note of this. Me, I've known four, possibly five personally.
Vlad, I apologize. I was obviously wrong. I thought you were just making generalizations of an entire population based on little or no knowledge. But now that I see you have known four or five Jews, well, that changes everything.
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 01:08 PM
Well...golly gee wiz Glex, you're on my forum I'm not on yours! I was simply wondering what your motivation was. Posting 10 times a day on a WN forum is a little over the top as they say, especially someone with the views you have, wouldn't you agree?
No, I wouldn’t agree. I post when time permits, just like you. What so sinister about that? And I have to ask. Why did you create an opposition section in your forum?
Hmmm, perhaps you can supply us with a list of people whose "minds" you have changed?
Hmmm, obviously no one is going to write me and say they had their mind changed. But we can infer it from their behavior. Think of it. When was the last time you were in the midst of a heated argument, and suddenly stopped? Was it because you were “bored”? Right in the middle of it you got bored? No, it’s because they said something to you that made you withdraw. You may say you got bored, to save face; you know what really happened. They couldn’t continue. In this case, I made an argument that made them think. That’s a good thing.
Look, for example, at Georgie, in this thread (page 5). He made the point that I am selfish, and don’t care about anyone else as long as it doesn’t affect me. I gave him the example of how bad it would be if caring Christians (or even Christian Identity) believers, took over the world and cared about you. It would be a theocratic nightmare. I’m sure plenty of people here would agree.
Well, the point is that no one wants others to ‘care’ about them that way. We want to be free to live our own lives. Again, most people here would agree with that. Georgie saw that, and that’s why he didn’t respond. Maybe not a full change of mind, but I certainly planted a seed.
Ohhh come now, Glex. I never asked you to leave. Point of fact, I I think it is in the interest of WN's to have you here as you validate everything we say...not to mention the comic relief.
Glad I can be of service. But why did you even bring it up? You're just concerned for my welfare?
Well Glex, didn't you say this in response to Gott and Italia on the very serious and sensitive issue of the so-called holocaust: The problemo with "avoiding" a question like this Glex, is it gives the impression that you are evading the issue because you are fearful of the answer you might give.
I’m not afraid of the answer. I have no stake in the Holocaust one way of another. I’m not Jewish, and I don’t hate Jews. Don’t care if it’s one million dead or million or whatever. Ancient history. Move on.
People who duck questions and "avoid" giving straightforward answers to questions they cannot or would prefer not to answer are not lying on the technical sense but scoffing at Italia's well thought refutation of the holocaust numbers by saying is certainly spin, wouldn't you agree?
No, I wouldn’t. Spin is saying “100 died but they didn’t suffer”. Spin is calling shooting your own troops “friendly fire”. “Avoiding” a question isn’t spin.
Another non sequitur, Glex. (That means, an inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence.) Certainly not ALL "blacks are rapists" but according to FBI crime stats black males at %3 of the population commit %40 of all rapes and %90 of all interracial rape is black on white. So I, as a White Male, has a bit of a problem with that. Now I'm not trying to "pigeonhole" anyone. I'm sure the great black writer Walter Williams is a super-duper nice guy and would be a great neighbor but it's not Wally I'm concerened about. Wally is an exception to the rule. Ya see, Glex.....yer talking individuals...I'm talking black male general population and anybody with eyes to see and ears to hear knows what I'm talking about.
“Glex.....yer talking individuals...I'm talking black male general population” That’s kinda my whole point there, bud.
This next part is gonna scare you Glex but I thought I'd say it just the same. Soon...very soon, the White Man is going to throw off the jew yoke that has hampered the action and progress of The Arya....The Noble!
Yeah, and my dad can beat up your dad. Scary!
When that day comes YOU are going to have to make a decision. If you are a White Man as you claim and not a jew then YOU have 2 choices: Join us or die! No quarter will be given to our enemys or race traitors!
See if you can figure this out. I’m not a race traitor. I’m race neutral.
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 01:11 PM
"couldn't continue"? As in unable to continue somehow, perhaps because they're crying so hard that they can't see the keyboard, now that the "intense light of your truth" has blinded them to their old ways? Hahahahaha. Or perhaps, some folk had better things to do than waste their time responding to you. Some of us actually have to work for a living, which doesn't leave much time for silly arguments with fanatics like you.
"...easy kill", hahaha, that's funny. Good imagination. As if silly arguments can "kill". hahahaha.
".....maybe I planted the seed." Hahahaha, more funnies. At least you are entertaining, thanks.
Oh no, we're "ruined" now! Hahahaha, a real comedian
Translation:
“I can’t counter his arguments, so I’ll just laugh them off and pretend they don’t mean anything.”
Keep ‘em coming there Colonel! You’re no comedy slouch youself.
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 01:24 PM
Are you assuming that no White Nationalist is "filling a perceived need"? If so, then your assumption is incorrect. In fact, the "hate" industry is BOOMING! hahahaha.
Maybe we just disagree on what “booming” means. I think it means more than appealing to a few hundred people. If there really are millions of people that secretly believe, why not cater to them? Why not give them a completely anonymous way to contribute? Surfing the web is largely anonymous, so why aren’t VNN’s page, or this forum, filled with millions of members, or even millions of lurkers? Why are VNN’s Alex rating dropping? Sounds like trying to meet a need that people don’t really need.
Well, sounds like you're Mr. Teflon Man. Here, have a cookie! Hahahaha.
Actually I’m just not phased by insults that mean nothing to me. Would calling you a “drunken mick” insult you if you weren’t Irish? Same thing.
No, actually, that is the point. Just as the liberals' love of multiculturalism is inversely proportional to their actual living distance from muds, so is your lack of antagonism towards jews proportional to your (lack of) real life experiences with them. Some of us have had actual, real life experiences with jews and other muds, in fact, I've employed jews and negroes in the past, and could really tell some "enlightening" stories, if the mood ever strikes.
And someone else could tell enlightening stories about how great they are. So what? Your personal experience is somehow more valid than theirs?
Maybe some do. I personally believe that all non-White races have a right to exist, so long as they don't exist in my living space.
So do I. But America ain’t your space. I fully support your right to disallow anyone you want from your own house. But you want to disallow them from my house. See the difference?
I say, good luck to the Nation of Islam, they're separatists (Nationalists) also. If they succeed in establishing a Nation of Islam somewhere, that's just great, all Islamists can go there and get the hell out of here.
Why don’t you go and get the hell out of here? Prove to the world what a bunch of proud Aryan warriors can do. Let the world go to hell around you while you build a new Athens. Why aren’t you packing your bags, Colonel?
Yes, you've already admitted that you don't know any jews, so you have no experiences in dealing with them. Perhaps if you had had some experiences with jews, you'd have an opinion about them not unlike ours. Possible, Hmmm?
Yes, that is possible. Maybe if you had some pleasant interaction with Jews or blacks, you’d have a change of opinion too. Possible, Hmmm?
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 01:30 PM
Think just a minute on this, Glex....
If the Nazis had truly intended genocide, why wouldn't they have just shot all jews on sight? Why did they go through all the trouble of building work camps around their war and munitions factories, transport the jews to them, tattoo numbers on them, shave their heads, and provide them with food, water and best of all.......WORK? Why go to those lengths if your intention is just to murder them? Please answer that, Glex.
BTW, if I "planted a seed of doubt" in your genocide claim, please forgive, thanks.
I'm in a war. I need every able bodied man on the line, fighting for my country in a war that I caused. But if I have every man at the front lines, who will I have behind the lines manufacturing the goods needed to fight that war?
Well, I can get the women to work, but I really think that women are better suited to be homemakers than munitions workers. What to do?
AH! I got it! I’ll enslave the very same people I was going to kill anyway. Perfect! You see, once dead they don’t do any good at all. But working as slaves I can have them make items for me, supplementing my work force at practically no cost! Then, when the war is won, we can either kill them at our leisure or continue to enslave them. Brilliant!
A perfect example of German logic. Why waste something when you can use it?
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 01:34 PM
We don't need or desire to know a Jew personally. Sitting back and observing Jews is to know the Jews all too well enough. The Jew is the parasite among humans. That is this natural law. He can not do differently. He needs a host people to be able to live himself. This way of living is innate to the Jews, and laid down in their laws: Citation from the Talmud: "Robbing Gentiles is permitted."
If you want to see hate, look to the Talmud.
Italia, that is weak. I could just as easily say if you want to know whites, just look at the bible. After your long absence from the forum this is the best you can do?
Ossian
January 8th, 2004, 03:36 PM
I could just as easily say if you want to know whites, just look at the bible.
You might want to rethink that one. :rolleyes:
As I seem to recall, the Bible was written exclusively by (and was written mostly about) a certain tribe of wandering Semites....
The Old Testament (Torah) in particular is full of accounts of this one particular Semitic tribe exterminating various other [also usually Semitic] tribes, often including even their livestock, pets, crops--and children, of course! Sometimes their tribal god Yahweh would further instruct them to 'not leave one stone standing upon another.'
Then there is the well-known jewish formula for dealing with the goyim:
And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbor; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.
And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.
--Isaiah 19 :2-3
--which does not seem to have changed much in the last 2700 years; and after all, why should it?
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 04:51 PM
Glex, do you honestly believe that if this even happened that it was a first, or for that matter, a last in all the history of warfare in the world?
No, but that is exactly my point. I was asked by Colonel.Kurtz: If the Nazis had truly intended genocide, why wouldn't they have just shot all jews on sight?
And my answer was "to make slaves of them first, then kill then at their leisure". The fact that it wasn’t a first or last time that happened was something I didn’t consider, but it certainly gives more weight to my argument. Thank you Vlad.
So there you go Colonel.Kurtz, you have your answer.
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 04:55 PM
Just think Glex, if you keep pushing your uninformed myopic opinion hard enough you may eventually show us the error of our ways.
I'm the myopic one, Vlad? You meet less than half a dozen members of a certain group, and turn that up into a condemnation of all of them. But I’m the myopic one? Heh.
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 05:17 PM
You misquoted me and I am now exposing you for a liar and a fraud.
I clearly said if it even happened it would not be the first or last.
It obviously did happen. Colonel.Kurtz said “Why didn’t they just kill them all”. Which means they did something other than kill them all. Like put Jews into work camps, for instance. Are you saying there were no work camps?
Glex
January 8th, 2004, 05:57 PM
I'm still waiting for this one to be answered by our dodgy little antiwhite.
See: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=13807#post13807 It's a point by point answer.
Honestly Vlad, are you now reduced to simply re-asking other people's questions?
And since we are on the subject of avoiding questions, do you want me to make a list of questions you and yours haven't answered?
T.Garrett
January 8th, 2004, 06:51 PM
A perfect example of German logic. Why waste something when you can use it?
WTF do you mean by ‘German’ logic there jooboy?
T.G.
Steve B
January 8th, 2004, 08:11 PM
Hmmm, obviously no one is going to write me and say they had their mind changed. But we can infer it from their behavior.
Oh really, Glex? Well I "infer" you haven't changed anybodys mind. Certainly not Vlads, The Colonel's, Italias, Ossian, Screwface, Magog...nor mine. In fact I "infer" that your arguments are weak and have no pattern of logic or common sense. I also "infer" that your refusal to answer certain touchy questions about holocaust numbers tell us more about you than if you had answered them.
Think of it. When was the last time you were in the midst of a heated argument, and suddenly stopped? Was it because you were “bored”? Right in the middle of it you got bored? No, it’s because they said something to you that made you withdraw. You may say you got bored, to save face; you know what really happened. They couldn’t continue. In this case, I made an argument that made them think. That’s a good thing.
LOL!!! Thats funny, Glex. You should really write comedy routines. Unless of course you weren't joking then I would go back to my original premise that you need therapy. I mean comon fella...do you actually believe that your "arguments" are so well thought out and persuasive that others just "can't continue" and make them "withdraw"? WOW! Actually these types of delusions are common in paranoid types such as yourself. You know, the belief that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are. If it wasn't so pathetic it would be funny.
Look, for example, at Georgie, in this thread (page 5). He made the point that I am selfish, and don’t care about anyone else as long as it doesn’t affect me. I gave him the example of how bad it would be if caring Christians (or even Christian Identity) believers, took over the world and cared about you. It would be a theocratic nightmare. I’m sure plenty of people here would agree.
Yes of course, Glex! "I'm sure plenty of people here would agree" with you on that one. By the way, when are you planning on running for President of the World?
Well, the point is that no one wants others to ‘care’ about them that way. We want to be free to live our own lives. Again, most people here would agree with that. Georgie saw that, and that’s why he didn’t respond. Maybe not a full change of mind, but I certainly planted a seed..
Hey Johnny Applespin, did it ever occur to you that the reason Georgie didn't respond to you is because he saw the futility of debating with a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur and not because he had some miraculous "change of mind". Or perhaps we should just ask Georgie himself why he stopped debating with you. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts it wasn't because of any "seed" you "planted"!
Geeze, do they get any weirder!
Georgie
January 8th, 2004, 08:52 PM
No offense there Glex but you didn't plant any seeds. The reason why I didn't respond to the thread anymore was because I'm not as erudite about things as alot of people are here. I have a hard time putting things into words. I'm a follower by nature, not a blind follower. I look carefully at what I follow and choose the best choice. I never was a racist have you, just recently became racially aware. Well..sort of recently.
And no, I am never going to "change" or somehow become "un-racist". This is not a phase. Once you go racist, you don't go back. Most of the time anyway. I have seen too much information that makes sense to somehow go back to the multicult world.
You can try all you want with debating but there is no one that is going to somehow magically "change" or have a "seed" implanted in them. You wouldn't really understand though. You won't and can't understand racism unless you are one. Although, racist is such a hateful word and usually a bit misleading.
Magog
January 8th, 2004, 10:19 PM
that once you are educated and see the world for what it is, you could never go back to the dark cave.
Once Whites wake up and see the world for what it is we can never go back to being mindless slaves.
Steve B
January 9th, 2004, 02:29 AM
I would appear the The Colonel is right and a "seed" has been planted in Herr Glex's mind! Note the admission of not "caring" if 1 or 6 million jews died!
I’m not afraid of the answer. I have no stake in the Holocaust one way of another. I’m not Jewish, and I don’t hate Jews. Don’t care if it’s one million dead or 6 million or whatever. Ancient history. Move on.
See if you can figure this out. I’m not a race traitor. I’m race neutral.
Now Grupenfuhrer Glex says he's no "traitor" but merely "neutral"
Because it makes them money. Duh. Of course they are going to keep milking that cow as long as it gives milk. I think it’s just as wrong as you do. It’s as wrong as slavery reparations. It’s as wrong as ANY shakedown for what happened in the past.
Field Marshall Glex now admits that jews make money off the holohoax industry!
Says it's "wrong" and calles it a "shakedown"
Who knows Volks.... with the seed we have planted in the mind of Reich Chancellor Glex their may be hope for this boy yet!
Glex
January 9th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Field Marshall Glex now admits that jews make money off the holohoax industry! Says it's "wrong" and calles it a "shakedown"
There is nothing to “admit”. I never said it was anything but a shakedown. YOU assumed that’s what I felt. But that’s the whole problem with racism isn’t it? Assumptions based on limited information.
vBulletin® v3.8.6, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.